[00:29]  * phillw-virtual you it's kinda sad when your -virtual name hangs around through net splits and your primary cannot!
[04:54] <vibhav> good morning
[06:04] <pitti> Good morning
[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[07:51] <jibel> good morning
[07:51] <pitti> bonjour jibel, comment ça va ?
[07:51] <pitti> hey dholbach, guten Morgen
[07:52] <dholbach> hey pitti
[07:52] <jibel> guten Morgen pitti , ça va bien et toi ?
[07:53] <pitti> jibel: je vais bien aussi, merci
[07:53] <pitti> mais il neige à nouveau !
[07:55] <jibel> pitti, never ending winter :( we made a long walk on the beach yesterday but it was freezing, around 4°C and strong north wind. I don't remember end of March being so cold here.
[08:46] <dholbach> pitti, do you think for something like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=703872 it would make sense to have a couple of primitive "import <module>" tests? :)
[08:47] <pitti> dholbach: we actually do something like this during upgrade tests
[08:47] <dholbach> when are the upgrade tests run?
[08:47] <pitti> i. e. install a bunch of python-* packages, dist-upgrade to new version, iterate through all installed py modules and try to import them
[08:48] <pitti> I'm not sayign that this necessarily catches all those, as AFAIK we don't install _all_ available python packages
[08:48] <pitti> just that we have the mechanics somewhere
[08:48] <pitti> but some simple autopkgtests would work well for those, too
[08:48] <pitti> import the modules, call some method/class in it, etc, similar to the compile/link/run tests
[08:49] <dholbach> exactly - maybe it'd make sense to add some to RequiredTests
[08:49] <dholbach> I don't know if the upgrade tests or the autopkgtests are more suitable
[08:50] <pitti> for this bug, definitively the autopkgtests
[08:53] <jibel> dholbach, i'm surprised auto-upgrade test didn't catch it. this module is from python standard library
[08:57] <jibel> dholbach, the test only imports modules from /usr/lib/PYTHONVER/dist-packages/ but doesn't verify that standard modules are still working
[08:58] <dholbach> in this case a simple import would have revealed the problem too :)
[09:07] <jibel> psivaa, the post-upgrade test test_python_import.py imports a limited set of python modules and important bugs evade our testing. I filed bug 1159671 . Could you look with plars_ if you can extend this test?
[19:01] <balloons> bdmurray, ping
[19:02] <balloons> chilicuil, Noskcaj, good morning
[19:03] <Noskcaj> morning balloons
[19:03] <chilicuil> good morning balloons
[19:12] <balloons> all ready for this testing week?
[19:21] <chilicuil> weee, yep =)
[19:37] <bdmurray> balloons: hey
[19:56] <letozaf_> balloons, Hey
[19:57] <chilicuil> balloons: about the bug #1159927 , you're refering to a manual testcase?, if nobody has already reach you, I'll like to assign it to me (if it's a manual testcase, I'm still reading docs about the automated testcases)
[20:17] <balloons> sorry..
[20:17] <balloons> umm chilicuil yes a manual testcase
[20:17] <balloons> letozaf_, hello :-)
[20:18] <letozaf_> balloons, I worked on the File-roller test but there is a part of it that I cannot get to work
[20:19] <letozaf_> balloons, If you think I can push it to launchpad so you can have a look at it when you got time
[20:21] <letozaf_> balloons, meanwhile I will try to write a test for totem :)
[20:22] <balloons> chilicuil, so you can create a test for the new client? it's in a ppa now, it's listed in the bug report
[20:22] <balloons> letozaf_, yes please do push it up :-)
[20:24] <letozaf_> balloons, done ! the part that does not work is where I have to select files to add to the archive, cannot change directory and select files :(
[20:25] <chilicuil> balloons: ok, then I'm working on it
[20:26] <balloons> letozaf_, ohh.. so the add button works for you now magically?
[20:26] <balloons> chilicuil, thank you!
[20:26] <letozaf_> balloons, :P had to install a new Raring :P
[20:26] <balloons> letozaf_, crazy
[20:27] <letozaf_> balloons, so the button now works but I got stuck just after, cannot find a way to change directory and select files :(
[20:28] <balloons> ahh.. k, well we might be able to make something happen :-)
[20:28] <letozaf_> balloons, I carried on with the test even if that part did not work
[20:28] <letozaf_> balloons, so it should be nearly finished
[20:31] <letozaf_> balloons, do you think I can reinstall Raring on my notebook I mean on the partition where the add button does not work in File-roller or do you need me to keep it , I mean maybe to find out what is wrong there, but I think it's quite difficult
[20:32] <balloons> letozaf_, no, not worried about it
[20:33] <balloons> it's weird, but they changed packagaing ALOT
[20:33] <balloons> my guess is something got funny for you as that was going on
[20:33] <letozaf_> balloons, yeah probably
[20:57] <letozaf_> balloons, I've got soemthing to ask about Smart Scopes, have you tried to test them ?
[20:58] <balloons> letozaf_, I'm running them right now.. I've been on the ppa
[20:58] <balloons> you notice something funny?
[20:58] <letozaf_> balloons, not sure  thats why I wanted to ask you
[20:58] <letozaf_> :D
[20:59] <letozaf_> balloons, for instance in the testcase: Test-case reference-dictionary
[20:59] <letozaf_> balloons, if I type "test" and then click on the "Reference" category
[21:00] <letozaf_> balloons, I do not get only definitions for test but also other things like
[21:00] <fetz> evening all
[21:02] <letozaf_> balloons, books on Amazon, is that ok ?
[21:02] <balloons> fetz, hello
[21:02] <balloons> letozaf_, yes.. that good actually :-)
[21:03] <balloons> the idea is that typing in something will pull from all those scopes.. and over time the results should get better.. meaning typing 'test' in and always clicking the definition should pull that one to the top
[21:04] <letozaf_> balloons, ah! I thought that maybe under the "Reference" category I should have found only  something from http://www.wordnik.com/ or wikipedia...
[21:07] <fetz> if no one has added anything to simple-scan testcase by wednesday ill add a bit more to it like rotation and other features etc.
[21:08] <balloons> fetz, excellent.. I'm really excited to see everyone jumping in on the manual tests
[21:10] <fetz> yeah hopefully can pull some bugs out of it... well for us thats good not the devs haha ;)
[21:20] <phillw> hi balloons, I've had a bad couple of bug days.... I cannot reproduce issues. ah, well, more things to test :)
[21:20] <balloons> phillw, ugh.. I know that feeling
[21:20] <balloons> phillw, did you want the lubuntu testcases placed in milestone?
[21:20] <phillw> still, it does push my testing stats up from zero :P
[21:21] <phillw> balloons: I've just replied by email. Let the L-QA guys check them out :)
[21:21] <balloons> kk
[21:23] <phillw> once they are approved by them, I'll ask that they be added to the 'test once' as they are default apps.
[21:24] <balloons> ahh perfect'
[22:00] <SergioMeneses> hi everybody!
[22:11] <balloons> hey SergioMeneses
[22:11] <SergioMeneses> balloons, \o\
[22:12] <SergioMeneses> balloons, we have a lot of new bugs /o\
[22:13] <balloons> SergioMeneses, :-)
[22:13] <SergioMeneses> I'm still working on ubuntu-software-center :)
[22:17] <balloons> SergioMeneses, :-)
[22:25] <SergioMeneses> balloons, do you remember the name the name of the game that you showed me last week?
[22:25] <balloons> SergioMeneses, game? I don't remember talking about a game
[22:25] <balloons> lol.. but then again it was LAST week ;-)
[22:27] <SergioMeneses> balloons, the game that you buy ( $0 ) in the software center
[22:29] <balloons> ohh
[22:29] <balloons> it's all coming back
[22:29] <balloons> lord of ultima works
[22:29] <balloons> or command and conquer
[22:29] <SergioMeneses> command and conquer!!!
[22:30]  * phillw wishes we could find an intermediate ability python programmer to drive lubuntu-software-center back to life :'(
[22:30] <balloons> yea.. there the f2p ea games
[22:32] <SergioMeneses> phillw, :OOO
[22:33] <phillw> SergioMeneses that project is now 'stalled'. :( Not even sure if it will go onto 13.10 :/
[22:34] <balloons> phillw, what would be the difference persay?
[22:34] <balloons> toolkit is the same
[22:35] <balloons> I was a huge synaptic guy back in the day.. then I only used cli.. I'm still pretty much cli, but i do use and find USC useful now
[22:36] <phillw> balloons: it is a lower resource hungry version, it was going well and improving. Then RL took the 2 devs of it away and we simply do not have resources of devs to replace them. This happens in life, but it is a crying shame.
[22:36] <SergioMeneses> balloons, what does "persay" mean?
[22:39] <phillw> balloons: I'm still a synaptics fan :) It does allow me to see just how much 'dependant relatives' what you think is a small programme will pull in :)
[22:39] <balloons> SergioMeneses, it's actually per se
[22:41] <balloons> what I was asking phillw would have been different about it
[22:42] <SergioMeneses> phillw, I have Synaptic and I love it!
[22:42] <balloons> kind of a funny phrase actually SergioMeneses
[22:42] <balloons> your making me think about it too much
[22:42] <phillw> oh, balloons I finally managed to find the site I liked so much as front page to a wiki page for a team. I was close, it was not Poland but Latvia :)
[22:42] <balloons> phillw, link?
[22:43] <phillw> balloons: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Quantal I'm just beginning to translate it into moinmoin
[22:43] <balloons> interesting
[22:43] <balloons> well I'll ttyl..
[22:45] <phillw> It covers all the bases, and I really was impressed with it. Not all is needed by lubuntu, but the way they have it lain out is far less confusing than what most have.