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rick_h_oops00:07
snap-lOK, this is insane01:07
snap-lwe literally had a mug stick to the counter01:07
snap-lI'm not talking like "oh, give it a nudge, and it comes loose"01:08
snap-lI mean literally "the one who draws the mug from the counter will become the ruler of England"01:08
slestak_i had that happen last week, one of my teens cups01:08
slestak_i could almost move the furniture by its new _handle_01:09
snap-lHeh01:09
snap-lSoaked it, and it came off finally01:09
snap-lBut damn, it was stuck01:09
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=== Blazeix_ is now known as Blazeix
snap-lApparently the Nest is on sale on Amazon's Gold Boc10:49
snap-lBox, even10:49
snap-lhttp://ur1.ca/d61bo10:50
snap-l18010:50
snap-lAh, it's a first generation10:51
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rick_h_bwuahahaha http://r.bmark.us/u/5ff823c64e9eeb11:34
snap-lI've grown to tolerate the 80 column limitation. :)12:00
derekvfirefox is broken as hell on my desktop right now12:41
derekvfor one, it crashes with video half the time12:41
derekvbut the main thing is that i put on a dark theme and it pulls the text color or the background color half the time for sites or especially text fields without the other12:42
derekvdisappointing re the mozilla team12:42
derekvsome fix involving some file user__.css somewhere i'm sure12:43
snap-lYou sure it's not video card related?12:49
snap-lAny time I've had problems with applications, it can be traced to memory or video driver issues12:50
snap-lOn an unrelated note, I've finally collected all of the Mahler Symphonies conducted by David Zinman. At least I will once Symphony No. 8 comes in the mail.12:51
snap-lYou may now congratulate me.12:51
snap-lPlease don't all type at once.12:56
jrwren_are they good?12:57
jrwren_congrats.12:57
jrwren_i like the 79col limit.12:57
jrwren_it means I can keep my vim windows the same size and fit a few across a displlay.12:58
snap-ljrwren_: They're pretty good readings of the material13:09
snap-lnot too off-the-wall13:09
snap-lAre we having fun yet?14:15
rick_h_party party14:16
rick_h_http://pycon.blogspot.com/2013/03/how-kids-stole-show-young-coders.html most awesome thing ever14:16
snap-llmorchard brought in his Raspberry Pi last week from Pycon14:17
snap-lHonestly, I think I need to convince JoDee that we need a few of these. :)14:17
jrwren_did someone resurect jcastro's old site? http://funroll-loops.info/14:23
jcastro_it's been up for a while14:26
jcastro_some gentoo people took it over14:26
snap-lThat was jcastro_ 's site?14:37
snap-lI feel I just learned my next door neighbor was the Lone Ranger.14:37
rick_h_if anyone has a few minutes to spare care to test out a quick bookie build fresh to help sanity check https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/issues/20414:37
snap-lrick_h_: I'm trying the build install on the git page14:45
rick_h_snap-l: thanks14:45
snap-lnp14:46
snap-lGot the same alembic==0.3.4 missing foo14:48
snap-llxc precise container14:48
rick_h_wtf14:52
rick_h_ok, thanks. I'll have to look into it.14:52
snap-lI think the pip command isn't working properly.14:56
snap-lIt's not able to find the download-cache14:56
snap-lor it needs a hint. :)14:56
rick_h_yea, but it works here locally. So gruble...what version pip and does a bin/pip install -U pip help at all?14:57
rick_h_and lmao off the day http://r.bmark.us/u/2418cc308133a314:58
snap-lpip 1.015:00
snap-lNo love otherwise15:04
rick_h_snap-l: so upgrading pip doesn't help?15:05
snap-lDidn't seem to15:05
snap-lI think it's a path issue15:06
rick_h_ok, what version did it upgrade to? bin/pip --version15:06
snap-l1.3.115:06
snap-lYou have it going to file:///download-cache15:06
rick_h_yea15:06
jrwren_apt repo issues?15:32
snap-l?15:32
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jrwren_alembic==0.3.415:44
jrwren_apt or pip?15:44
snap-lpip15:45
rick_h_yea, pip is having issues working in offline mode for people on older installs it seems15:45
snap-lIt's a localized issue15:45
jrwren_ah.15:45
rick_h_I'll have to setup a venv and figure it out.15:45
rick_h_I moved bookie to use a download-cache git repo for deps vs hitting pypi which is slow and buggy...only now there's this issue so #$@# me15:46
snap-lIt's a path issue15:46
snap-lchanged CACHE to /home/ubuntu/Bookie/download-cache on my lxc container, and it's cooking with gas now15:47
snap-lalso you're missing colorama in the download cache15:47
rick_h_hmmm...ok. I can do that. I have the $(WD) in the makefile so I can full path it out I guess15:47
rick_h_ah cool, yea been finding those that aren't hit in tests that I missed15:48
snap-lYou should offload finding stupid errors to a bonafide idiot.15:48
snap-l<- bonafide idiot. :)15:48
rick_h_hah15:49
snap-lAlso you could use lxc to handle defaults for Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.0415:50
snap-lso you could see which ones will fail15:50
* snap-l is not sure if debian has images for lxc that are simple downloads or not15:51
snap-lOh, derp... It installs debian squeeze by default15:51
rick_h_yea, it's not a problem. Just didn't go through it. Didn't realize the pip stuff I was using was so fragile.15:51
rick_h_I'll have to work out a way to make sure that on creating the venv it updates pip...but I don't want to hit the interwebs...oh well15:52
rick_h_catch 22 me15:52
snap-lCould also make it a make switch15:52
rick_h_yea15:52
rick_h_default to broken offline and add a flag to update it from the webs15:53
snap-lWell, it's not true offline because it still requires a download cache15:53
snap-lbut yeah15:53
rick_h_right, but you can supply that in a build...say a juju charm :)15:53
snap-lI smell a work project in there.15:54
rick_h_no, just the more we use a nice download-cache at work the more I think it's good practice15:54
snap-lyeah, it is nice15:54
rick_h_but it does open up making things like tests, charms, virtualmachines images work nicer15:54
snap-lespecially if you happen to have slow-mo-fo-hub-fu15:54
rick_h_right15:54
rick_h_and makes things like sprints a lot nicer as well15:54
snap-lRight. You can export it, and pass around on a USB key.15:55
rick_h_yep15:56
greg-gheh, this is what broke WP 30 minutes ago for 5 minutes (we're awesome at reverting): http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7054795/adding-a-script-to-the-page-dynamically-with-jquery-never-uses-the-cached-file18:46
rick_h_gah....comboloader ftw18:48
brouschWP? WordPress?18:48
greg-gWikipedia18:52
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jrwren_greg-g: nice.19:34
jrwren_comboloader?19:34
jrwren_ewe, a rail content pipeline work-a-like?  noty19:34
jrwren_CDN > comboloader19:34
rick_h_jrwren_: CDN in front of combo loader  win! :P19:48
rick_h_jrwren_: not rails content plugin, but a split service to provide JS requested19:48
jrwren_I like a global shared CDN for any script for which it makes sense.19:50
jrwren_for any other scripts: what you said.19:50
jrwren_for jquery and jqueryui adn all that shit that is used by many sites out there - google cdn or msft cdn19:51
jrwren_why download what you don't need to?19:51
rick_h_to avoid sending 1MB of JS over the pipe for a home page19:51
jrwren_exactly.19:51
rick_h_and avoid doing rebuilds of the jqueryUI because you suddenly decided to add a new UI component19:52
jrwren_rebuilds?19:52
brouschIf a web page has less than 1 MB of javascript on it, it ain't worth viewing!19:52
rick_h_http://jqueryui.com/download/19:52
jrwren_oh, themes and stuff,r ight.19:53
jrwren_that is when you just change which package you are pulling from CDN :p19:53
rick_h_not themes, just support for datepicker, autocomplete, etc19:54
jrwren_some other website is bound to use teh same package you do.19:54
rick_h_but not every combo of every file is CDN'd19:54
jrwren_right.19:54
jrwren_use a CDNd combo19:54
jrwren_its faster :p19:54
rick_h_yep, CDN the urls requested and each url is unique per the JS modules required.19:54
rick_h_different pages in the app then use diff urls, but they're smaller/faster19:55
jrwren_but they are different urls. unacceptable.19:55
jrwren_pretend I'm on 8k dialup.19:55
rick_h_well that's the point :)19:55
jrwren_if i've already downloaded the file, I don't have to download it again.19:56
jrwren_this is just proof http needs a diff protocol :p19:56
rick_h_heh19:56
snap-lGod Dammit, Google: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/03/the-google-shutdown-parade-continues-next-up-site-blocking-in-search/20:54
derekvoh nice22:19
derekvyou mean the one feature that i wanted for years that they finally implemented22:19
derekvi feel sick22:34
greg-ggo home22:44
derekvi am home23:02
rick_h_ugh, ipad mini prices suck after buying several nexus 7s23:09
snap-lrick_h_: That can only mean one thing23:41
snap-lYou're looking at iPad Minis23:41
rick_h_snap-l: yea, for a present for my i* using aunt's birthday23:42
rick_h_ugh, I didn't realize the $350 one was only 15GB23:42
rick_h_1623:42
rick_h_going to $32 goes over 40023:42
snap-lYeah, they're not cheap23:42
rick_h_bah, 32GB23:42

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