[00:06] ls [00:07] oops [01:07] OK, this is insane [01:07] we literally had a mug stick to the counter [01:08] I'm not talking like "oh, give it a nudge, and it comes loose" [01:08] I mean literally "the one who draws the mug from the counter will become the ruler of England" [01:08] i had that happen last week, one of my teens cups [01:09] i could almost move the furniture by its new _handle_ [01:09] Heh [01:09] Soaked it, and it came off finally [01:09] But damn, it was stuck === slestak_ is now known as slestak === Blazeix_ is now known as Blazeix [10:49] Apparently the Nest is on sale on Amazon's Gold Boc [10:49] Box, even [10:50] http://ur1.ca/d61bo [10:50] 180 [10:51] Ah, it's a first generation === JonathanS is now known as JonathanD [11:34] bwuahahaha http://r.bmark.us/u/5ff823c64e9eeb [12:00] I've grown to tolerate the 80 column limitation. :) [12:41] firefox is broken as hell on my desktop right now [12:41] for one, it crashes with video half the time [12:42] but the main thing is that i put on a dark theme and it pulls the text color or the background color half the time for sites or especially text fields without the other [12:42] disappointing re the mozilla team [12:43] some fix involving some file user__.css somewhere i'm sure [12:49] You sure it's not video card related? [12:50] Any time I've had problems with applications, it can be traced to memory or video driver issues [12:51] On an unrelated note, I've finally collected all of the Mahler Symphonies conducted by David Zinman. At least I will once Symphony No. 8 comes in the mail. [12:51] You may now congratulate me. [12:56] Please don't all type at once. [12:57] are they good? [12:57] congrats. [12:57] i like the 79col limit. [12:58] it means I can keep my vim windows the same size and fit a few across a displlay. [13:09] jrwren_: They're pretty good readings of the material [13:09] not too off-the-wall [14:15] Are we having fun yet? [14:16] party party [14:16] http://pycon.blogspot.com/2013/03/how-kids-stole-show-young-coders.html most awesome thing ever [14:17] lmorchard brought in his Raspberry Pi last week from Pycon [14:17] Honestly, I think I need to convince JoDee that we need a few of these. :) [14:23] did someone resurect jcastro's old site? http://funroll-loops.info/ [14:26] it's been up for a while [14:26] some gentoo people took it over [14:37] That was jcastro_ 's site? [14:37] I feel I just learned my next door neighbor was the Lone Ranger. [14:37] if anyone has a few minutes to spare care to test out a quick bookie build fresh to help sanity check https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/issues/204 [14:45] rick_h_: I'm trying the build install on the git page [14:45] snap-l: thanks [14:46] np [14:48] Got the same alembic==0.3.4 missing foo [14:48] lxc precise container [14:52] wtf [14:52] ok, thanks. I'll have to look into it. [14:56] I think the pip command isn't working properly. [14:56] It's not able to find the download-cache [14:56] or it needs a hint. :) [14:57] yea, but it works here locally. So gruble...what version pip and does a bin/pip install -U pip help at all? [14:58] and lmao off the day http://r.bmark.us/u/2418cc308133a3 [15:00] pip 1.0 [15:04] No love otherwise [15:05] snap-l: so upgrading pip doesn't help? [15:05] Didn't seem to [15:06] I think it's a path issue [15:06] ok, what version did it upgrade to? bin/pip --version [15:06] 1.3.1 [15:06] You have it going to file:///download-cache [15:06] yea [15:32] apt repo issues? [15:32] ? === greg_g is now known as greg-g [15:44] alembic==0.3.4 [15:44] apt or pip? [15:45] pip [15:45] yea, pip is having issues working in offline mode for people on older installs it seems [15:45] It's a localized issue [15:45] ah. [15:45] I'll have to setup a venv and figure it out. [15:46] I moved bookie to use a download-cache git repo for deps vs hitting pypi which is slow and buggy...only now there's this issue so #$@# me [15:46] It's a path issue [15:47] changed CACHE to /home/ubuntu/Bookie/download-cache on my lxc container, and it's cooking with gas now [15:47] also you're missing colorama in the download cache [15:47] hmmm...ok. I can do that. I have the $(WD) in the makefile so I can full path it out I guess [15:48] ah cool, yea been finding those that aren't hit in tests that I missed [15:48] You should offload finding stupid errors to a bonafide idiot. [15:48] <- bonafide idiot. :) [15:49] hah [15:50] Also you could use lxc to handle defaults for Ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04 [15:50] so you could see which ones will fail [15:51] * snap-l is not sure if debian has images for lxc that are simple downloads or not [15:51] Oh, derp... It installs debian squeeze by default [15:51] yea, it's not a problem. Just didn't go through it. Didn't realize the pip stuff I was using was so fragile. [15:52] I'll have to work out a way to make sure that on creating the venv it updates pip...but I don't want to hit the interwebs...oh well [15:52] catch 22 me [15:52] Could also make it a make switch [15:52] yea [15:53] default to broken offline and add a flag to update it from the webs [15:53] Well, it's not true offline because it still requires a download cache [15:53] but yeah [15:53] right, but you can supply that in a build...say a juju charm :) [15:54] I smell a work project in there. [15:54] no, just the more we use a nice download-cache at work the more I think it's good practice [15:54] yeah, it is nice [15:54] but it does open up making things like tests, charms, virtualmachines images work nicer [15:54] especially if you happen to have slow-mo-fo-hub-fu [15:54] right [15:54] and makes things like sprints a lot nicer as well [15:55] Right. You can export it, and pass around on a USB key. [15:56] yep [18:46] heh, this is what broke WP 30 minutes ago for 5 minutes (we're awesome at reverting): http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7054795/adding-a-script-to-the-page-dynamically-with-jquery-never-uses-the-cached-file [18:48] gah....comboloader ftw [18:48] WP? WordPress? [18:52] Wikipedia === Blazeix_ is now known as Blazeix [19:34] greg-g: nice. [19:34] comboloader? [19:34] ewe, a rail content pipeline work-a-like? noty [19:34] CDN > comboloader [19:48] jrwren_: CDN in front of combo loader win! :P [19:48] jrwren_: not rails content plugin, but a split service to provide JS requested [19:50] I like a global shared CDN for any script for which it makes sense. [19:50] for any other scripts: what you said. [19:51] for jquery and jqueryui adn all that shit that is used by many sites out there - google cdn or msft cdn [19:51] why download what you don't need to? [19:51] to avoid sending 1MB of JS over the pipe for a home page [19:51] exactly. [19:52] and avoid doing rebuilds of the jqueryUI because you suddenly decided to add a new UI component [19:52] rebuilds? [19:52] If a web page has less than 1 MB of javascript on it, it ain't worth viewing! [19:52] http://jqueryui.com/download/ [19:53] oh, themes and stuff,r ight. [19:53] that is when you just change which package you are pulling from CDN :p [19:54] not themes, just support for datepicker, autocomplete, etc [19:54] some other website is bound to use teh same package you do. [19:54] but not every combo of every file is CDN'd [19:54] right. [19:54] use a CDNd combo [19:54] its faster :p [19:54] yep, CDN the urls requested and each url is unique per the JS modules required. [19:55] different pages in the app then use diff urls, but they're smaller/faster [19:55] but they are different urls. unacceptable. [19:55] pretend I'm on 8k dialup. [19:55] well that's the point :) [19:56] if i've already downloaded the file, I don't have to download it again. [19:56] this is just proof http needs a diff protocol :p [19:56] heh [20:54] God Dammit, Google: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/03/the-google-shutdown-parade-continues-next-up-site-blocking-in-search/ [22:19] oh nice [22:19] you mean the one feature that i wanted for years that they finally implemented [22:34] i feel sick [22:44] go home [23:02] i am home [23:09] ugh, ipad mini prices suck after buying several nexus 7s [23:41] rick_h_: That can only mean one thing [23:41] You're looking at iPad Minis [23:42] snap-l: yea, for a present for my i* using aunt's birthday [23:42] ugh, I didn't realize the $350 one was only 15GB [23:42] 16 [23:42] going to $32 goes over 400 [23:42] Yeah, they're not cheap [23:42] bah, 32GB