[00:36] <ano> n/m found it. Purisa
[01:49] <`-_-`> NO GPARTED? ARE YOU FLIPPING SERIOUS?!
[01:54] <`-_-`> other distros can argue its not needed all they want but this is a *definate* requirement for Ubuntu Studio
[01:57] <`-_-`> not every musician is a linux guru and a lot of the time the machine is gonna be out in the world where there is not necessarily internet but that doesnt mean there wont be portable drives
[02:10] <Len-nb> `-_-`,  Thank you for pointing that out. It is too late for 13.04 now, but I'll add it to the list for +1
[02:11] <Len-nb> I used to be part of ubuntu core I think
[02:18] <Unit193> Task: ubuntu-live, ubuntu-usb-live, edubuntu-live, edubuntu-usb-live, xubuntu-live, lubuntu-live, ubuntustudio-dvd-live, ubuntu-gnome-live  so it's on the live DVD.
[13:38] <Guest51674> hello can any 1 help me i cannot upgrade or update my system
[13:38] <Guest51674> W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org quantal Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[13:38] <Guest51674> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY C923190769E496FE
[13:38] <Guest51674> this is what it says!  i am really new to linux
[13:38] <Guest51674> and ubuntu
[13:39] <zequence> Guest51674: Looks like you've added some repositories
[13:39] <zequence> Guest51674: Bot those don's really say what the problem is
[13:39] <zequence> but*
[13:39] <zequence> Guest51674: Try: sudo apt-get install -f
[13:39] <Guest51674> ok ill try that
[13:40] <Guest51674> it says wether i want to continue
[13:40] <Guest51674> Reading package lists... Done
[13:40] <Guest51674> Building dependency tree
[13:40] <Guest51674> Reading state information... Done
[13:40] <Guest51674> Correcting dependencies... Done
[13:40] <Guest51674> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[13:40] <Guest51674>   calligra-l10n-engb hyphen-en-us kde-l10n-engb kdevelop-l10n kdevelop-php-docs-l10n kdevelop-php-l10n language-pack-kde-en
[13:40] <Guest51674>   libasprintf0c2:i386 libcroco3:i386 libgettextpo0:i386 libgomp1:i386 libunistring0:i386 linux-headers-3.5.0-17
[13:40] <Guest51674>   linux-headers-3.5.0-17-lowlatency mythes-en-au openoffice.org-hyphenation pidgin-data
[13:40] <zequence> Guest51674: please don't paste here
[13:40] <Guest51674> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[13:40] <Guest51674> The following extra packages will be installed:
[13:40] <Guest51674>   libavcodec-extra-53 libavformat-extra-53
[13:40] <zequence> Guest51674: use paste.ubuntu.com
[13:40] <Guest51674> The following packages will be upgraded:
[13:40] <Guest51674>   libavcodec-extra-53 libavformat-extra-53
[13:40] <Guest51674> 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
[13:40] <Guest51674> 2 not fully installed or removed.
[13:40] <Guest51674> Need to get 3,672 kB of archives.
[13:40] <Guest51674> After this operation, 6,144 B of additional disk space will be used.
[13:40] <Guest51674> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[13:41] <Guest51674> how do i use this paste ubuntu.
[13:41] <Guest51674> if i paste there can u guys c it here?
[13:41] <zequence> Guest51674: If you give us the link, yes
[13:41] <zequence> Guest51674: Actually, it's always best to do: sudo apt-get update
[13:41] <zequence> ..first
[13:41] <Guest51674> ok
[13:41] <Guest51674> cool
[13:42] <zequence> If you made any changes to the repos, you always need to do that before doing anything else
[13:42] <Guest51674> ok so i go ahead with yes or no?
[13:42] <zequence> Also, packages may have been updated, etc
[13:42] <zequence> Guest51674: Do sudo apt-get update first
[13:42] <zequence> The: sudo apt-get install -f
[13:42] <zequence> then*
[13:43] <Guest51674> ok
[13:43] <Guest51674> its says connecting and its downloading some packages from medibuntu.com
[13:44] <Guest51674> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5646381/
[13:45] <Guest51674> can check this out
[13:45] <zequence> Guest51674: Looks good to me. You should be able to update now
[13:45] <Guest51674> it says deffered processing
[13:45] <Guest51674> ok
[13:45] <Guest51674> i having big smiles now.
[13:45] <Guest51674> u huys are awsome
[13:48] <Guest51674> heloo i am back, now some new type of "key" problem have arised.
[13:49] <Guest51674> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5646395/
[13:49] <Guest51674> have a look at this
[13:51] <zequence> Guest51674: You only showed the last lines. What is the problem exactly?
[13:52] <zequence> From what I see you are just not able to verify a couple of GPG keys
[13:52] <Guest51674> ok
[13:52] <Guest51674> ill pate bin it
[13:53] <Guest51674> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5646405/
[13:54] <zequence> Guest51674: There was no error
[13:54] <zequence> apt-get update does not update your system
[13:54] <Guest51674> so thats not an error
[13:54] <zequence> It only updates the list of packages avaiable
[13:54] <Guest51674> i thought i had publick key missing
[13:55] <zequence> available*
[13:55] <Guest51674> its tic keyold me no publ
[13:55] <zequence> You have keys missing, but this will not prevent you from updating, etc
[13:55] <Guest51674> ok
[13:55] <Guest51674> so how can i fix the key issue
[13:55] <zequence> If you want to get the keys, find the info from the repo providers
[13:55] <Guest51674> repo providers
[13:56] <Guest51674> is ita website?
[13:56] <Guest51674> or some sofware ?
[13:56] <zequence> medibuntu was not included by default
[13:56] <zequence> You've added it yourself
[13:57] <zequence> Guest51674: You've also added some PPA
[13:57] <zequence> to see which one, have a look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[13:57] <Guest51674> ok
[13:57] <Guest51674> i know i added ppa for play desk yesterday
[13:58] <Guest51674> but that thing never came to function
[13:58] <Guest51674> it was so much complicated. i gave up but not out of hope though
[13:58] <zequence> the medibubuntu repos you've probably added to /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:59] <zequence> If you want the keys for medibuntu, ask medibuntu
[13:59] <zequence> however, missing keys for PPA is strange
[13:59] <zequence> maybe you didn't add it the right way?
[13:59] <Guest51674> ok ill try what you have said
[14:00] <zequence> normally, you do: sudo add-apt-repository <ppa>
[14:00] <Guest51674> wats the right way?
[14:00] <Guest51674> can u tell me
[14:00] <zequence> I just did
[14:00] <Guest51674> thank you
[14:00] <zequence> If you want to start from scratch, remove everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[14:00] <Guest51674> ok
[14:00] <zequence> and clean up /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:00] <Guest51674> then
[14:01] <Guest51674> ok then
[14:01] <zequence> Make sure you only have official Ubuntu repos
[14:01] <zequence> Then, do sudo apt-get update
[14:01] <Guest51674> ok
[14:01] <Guest51674> cool
[14:01] <Guest51674> how do u know all this..?
[14:02] <zequence> Guest51674: then add the repos you want, and make sure you do it the right way
[14:02] <Guest51674> ok
[14:02] <zequence> When you add medibunut, look for how to add the keys
[14:02] <Guest51674> ok
[14:03] <Guest51674> but now i just did upgrade command in terminal. and the upgrading is going onn
[14:03] <zequence> Guest51674: Also, if you want, you can just leave things be
[14:04] <zequence> gpg keys are used for controlling identity. They are like virtual IDs
[14:04] <zequence> So, they are of course important
[14:04] <zequence> If you have the right public key, you will know for sure what you got was from the right person/organization
[14:05] <Guest51674> ok
[14:05] <Guest51674> so ubuntu official ppa should be only added
[14:05] <zequence> If not, it could be from anybody (which of course is not very likely)
[14:05] <zequence> There's no official Ubuntu PPA
[14:05] <zequence> But, there are official Ubuntu archives
[14:05] <Guest51674> so who makes all the ppa
[14:06] <Guest51674> any one?
[14:06] <zequence> Yes, anyone
[14:06] <Guest51674> cool
[14:06] <zequence> PPA stands for Personal Package Archive
[14:06] <zequence> You can get a Launchpad account, and start uploading
[14:06] <Guest51674> cool
[14:07] <zequence> You'll need to create a GPG key to be able to upload. That key will be your virtual ID.
[14:07] <Guest51674> so if know how do linux programing you can make you own ppa
[14:08] <zequence> PPAs are nice, because they are so simple to work with. You only upload the source. The package is built on the LP server
[14:08] <Guest51674> i have to bye my friend i s calling me ,.........
[20:36] <jonesints1> anyone got experience with gladish and jack?
[20:36] <jonesints1> gladish complains jack is sick
[20:39] <jonesints1> I checked jackdbus log and it looks like my audio device cannot be acquired. any help appreciated!
[20:46] <zequence> jonesints1: That means pulseaudio is using it, and not letting go
[20:46] <zequence> So, nothing to do with gladish
[20:46] <zequence> jonesints1: It's a bug in pulseaudio in fact
[20:47] <zequence> jonesints1: It would help if you rebooted into a fresh session, and the first thing you do, try to start jack
[20:48] <zequence> jonesints1: If that didn't work, start qjackctl from the terminal with: pasuspender -- qjackctl
[20:48] <zequence> That will suspend jack, and make it possible to start jack
[20:51] <jonesints1> zequence: I had a feeling it was pulseaudio: It happens after I use firefox, and even if I kill pulseaudio I think it respawns. Someone recommends editing /.pulse/client.conf and disabling autospawn. Surely there must be an easy way to be able to use a web browser and jack without such problems?
[21:06] <zequence> jonesints1: You can safely start your pulse apps after you have starte jack
[21:06] <zequence> jonesints1: Again, this is a known bug, which is fixed on a later pulseaudio
[21:07] <zequence> I would only use pasuspender -- as a way to diagnose the problems
[21:09] <jonesints1> zequence: thanks for your help. It does seem like a bug. I can start my pulseaudio applications witout any problem when jack is running, except they have no audio :)
[21:10] <jonesints1> I guess at least it's good to know I can just kill pulseaudio and start jack again without a restart. that'll have to do for now.
[21:26] <zequence> jonesints1: they won't have audio until you connect pulseaudio to jack
[21:26] <zequence> jonesints1: You can't very well use two audios servers on the same card at the same time
[21:26] <zequence> !proaudio
[21:27] <zequence> jonesints1: When you run jack, jack will grab the card. The only way to use PA at the same time is either setting it to use another card, or have it connect to jack using the module jackdbus-detect
[21:27] <zequence> Which is packaged under the name pulseaudio-module-jack
[21:28] <zequence> ..this is, if you're on a standard ubuntu Studio system
[21:28] <zequence> jonesints1: The bug I'm talking about is only about pulseaudio not letting go of the card, when jack want's to acquire it.
[21:28] <zequence> PA is less likely to let go of the card, if it's using it for something
[21:29] <jonesints1> makes sense. thanks for clarifying!
[21:32] <zequence> jonesints1: When you start jackdbus, you should see pulseaudio sink and source in connections. To actually use them, you also need to set pulseaudio to use jack in pavucontrol (the PA mixer)
[21:33] <zequence> This is thanks to the module, I mentioned
[21:38] <jonesints1> thats great, just tried it out and it works. thanks again for your help