[01:30] <MountainX> KSnapshot (and other screen capture methods) are broken for me in Kubuntu 12.04 (KDE 4.8.5 and kernel 3.2.0-39 amd64, AMD/ATI graphics) after a recent system update. Anyone else seeing this?
[01:54] <ScottK> MountainX: How recent?
[01:55] <MountainX> ScottK: the problem started about a month ago (seemingly after an update to the lockscreen).
[01:57] <ScottK> KDE hasn't been updated since Feb 14.
[03:04] <MountainX> ScottK: someone suggested it might be kwin related. The problem about the same time the updates related to the lockscreen came through. Now every screenshot is nothing more than a picture of the stock lockscreen background.
[03:05] <ScottK> OK.  Let me check something.
[06:47] <soee> good morning
[08:08] <Tm_T> well this is interesting: https://foodl.org/ && https://github.com/UNINETT/Foodle
[09:34] <xnox> ScottK: i'd rather not hurry purging messaging menu out of kde, i'd rather look into porting it.
[09:34] <xnox> (myself that is)
[09:35] <ScottK> xnox: It currently has no maintainer, so that'd be great.
[09:36] <ScottK> I am somewhat concerned about our dbusmenu getting out of sync with upstream.
[09:37] <ScottK> xnox: If there are application level changes needed we'll need to upstream those as well, so they'll need to work with either version.
[09:38]  * xnox so far was doing straight s/libindicate/messaging-menu/ port, without fallbacks. As libindicate doesn't work in quantal & I want it to be removed sooner than later.
[09:38] <xnox> ScottK: is that because you backport so aggressively?
[09:39] <xnox> to precise that is.
[09:39] <ScottK> No.  It's because we, unlike the desktop team, actually got all this stuff upstream and so it needs to be supported.
[09:39] <ScottK> I don't know who all uses it and if they've upgraded to the newer stack.
[09:39] <xnox> heh.
[09:40] <ScottK> More generally, unlike almost anything Canonical touches.
[09:49] <xnox> ScottK: ?! ?! ?!
[09:49] <xnox> Anyway: http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/news/pyqt-410 this is so brief and to the point that it doesn't tell me much =)
[10:03] <ScottK> There's an open bug about packaging PyQt for Qt5.
[11:21] <Riddell> mgraesslin: sorry you had troubles installing kubuntu on a pandaboard
[11:21] <Riddell> you were nearly there with the install, it installs to a USB drive and boots off that, no needs to have a second sd card
[11:22] <mgraesslin> not it doesn't :-)
[11:22] <mgraesslin> I tried that one indirectly, had the sd card in USB stick mode
[11:22] <mgraesslin> and it didn't boot from that
[11:23] <Riddell> I'd blame the sd card reader for that then since booting off USB stick is how I test it all the time
[11:24] <mgraesslin> maybe I have a different model
[11:25] <mgraesslin> anyway I liked the "dd to card" variant better than having to install ;-)
[11:25] <Riddell> yeah that was simpler, can't remember why that changed, speed of running it from usb maybe?
[11:26] <Riddell> total sympathy with confusion between HDMI and DVI, I spent days mucking around with that (DVI monitor but depending on driver version worked from one port or the other but usually neither)
[11:26] <mgraesslin> oh with Ubuntu it worked fine all the time
[11:27] <mgraesslin> it was just Linaro having problems with that
[11:27] <mgraesslin> I was extremely surprised when I booted the system yesterday and I heard the KDE start sound
[11:27] <mgraesslin> and I had not connected audio :-)
[11:29] <Riddell> ... how does that work?
[11:29] <mgraesslin> hdmi
[11:29] <Riddell> ah hah
[11:32] <mgraesslin> what surprised me a little bit was that by default kwin is used instead of kwin_gles
[11:32] <mgraesslin> not that it matters given that KWin GLES does not work on the pandaboard...
[11:38] <Riddell> mgraesslin: hmm, I'm sure that wasn't the case at one point but yes the seeds do have only the normal kwin
[11:38] <Riddell> active has kwin active gles
[11:38] <Riddell> but that should be fixed for arm
[11:38] <mgraesslin> maybe it's the gles kwin, I didn't look at the compile flags
[11:39] <mgraesslin> if it's compiled without OpenGL, but with GLES, it results in the same as kwin_gles
[11:39] <mgraesslin> I only noticed that kde-window-decorator got installed instead of kde-window-decorator-gles
[11:39] <mgraesslin> but maybe the installation would do it properly, I finally installed kubuntu-desktop
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:00] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[12:34] <Darkwing> Morning
[12:35] <Riddell> hi Darkwing 
[12:35] <Darkwing> Hows life in KubuLand
[12:35] <Darkwing> ?
[12:36] <Riddell> super dooper, if with a long todo list
[12:38] <davmor2> Riddell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYTOavWs6Aw this might interest you guys.
[12:39] <tazz> so they started selling nexus 7 in India too.
[12:39] <tazz> shadeslayer, ^
[12:44] <Riddell> davmor2: wathcing at 25:30 seconds
[12:45] <Riddell> "this is very familiar, I like it"
[12:46] <Riddell> excellent excellent
[12:46] <davmor2> Riddell: I thought you might like it
[12:46] <Riddell> doesn't have many wallpapers, that's a common issue we get
[12:47] <Darkwing> Aye, we should do something about that.
[12:47] <davmor2> Riddell: they do some nice videos that are very task orientated
[12:47] <davmor2> I stumbled across it one day
[12:47] <Darkwing> Some of the worst camera play but, what they do is amazing.
[12:48] <lordievader> Nice video Darkwing :) I'm just 6 min in, but it is great already!
[12:48] <Darkwing> LOL What's the point of that? (Bouncy Ball)
[12:49] <Darkwing> lordievader: Kubuntu at 25:30
[12:50] <Riddell> "this one is a good one"
[12:50] <Riddell> that should be our new slogan
[12:50] <Darkwing> :D 
[12:51] <Darkwing> It's a brilliant idea
[12:52] <Darkwing> "It's logical and they don't give things strange names"
[13:04] <Darkwing> Riddell: I think this sums up who I want to move to an online system for writing docs... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2013-March/017141.html
[13:04] <Darkwing> s/who.why.
[13:04] <Darkwing> s/who/why/
[13:04] <kubotu> Darkwing meant: "s/why.why."
[13:04] <Darkwing> *sigh*
[13:05] <Darkwing> Actually, it tags the frustration of new people trying to get involved with anything.
[13:07] <Darkwing> We point to teams and some quasi jumbled documentation on it but, it really highlight the frustrations.
[13:09] <Riddell> Darkwing: yep, it's quite a barrier to people getting into the docs
[13:10] <Tm_T> so, I said something about Konqueror crashing and me trying to get debug information...
[13:10] <Tm_T> it hasn't crashed since
[13:10] <Darkwing> Tm_T: But, you are ready in case it does.
[13:12] <Tm_T> yeah
[13:13] <Tm_T> I'm rather happy now seeing Konqueror really working as it used to do with me
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Tm_T:  as a browser or file manager or both ?
[13:18] <Darkwing> But of course they don't. *sigh*
[13:20]  * Darkwing slowly strangles the servers that the wiki sits on.
[13:21] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: web browser, I rarely use GUI file browsers
[13:27] <Darkwing> Riddell: Remember how a couple of UDS' ago in Florida, it was mentioned that we wish we had an index of all of the Kubuntu wiki pages?  http://paste.kde.org/709448/
[13:38] <yofel> Darkwing: no reasonable way to get more wallpapers with current image size
[13:39] <yofel> Darkwing: and doesn't moinmoin have a search command for that wiki list?
[13:39] <Riddell> Darkwing: whee, probably a few in there we could delete :)
[14:35] <Darkwing> yofel: That is from that... add ?action=titleindex at the end.
[14:35] <yofel> heh
[14:35] <Darkwing> It give ALL the wiki pages... I just C&P the Kubuntu ones.
[14:36] <Darkwing> *if* the server had PyXML then I could use ?action=format&mimetype=xml/docbook to generate docbook from it.
[15:02] <xnox> ScottK: http://people.canonical.com/~xnox/boost1.53/ has no dep-wait any more. only one kde failure and I'm not sure why... seems like it fails in moc?!
[15:18] <Riddell> ../../../src/part/DotGraphParsingHelper.cpp:29:33: fatal error: boost/spirit/core.hpp: No such file or directory
[15:18] <Riddell> xnox: looks like an API change?
[15:18] <xnox> Riddell: which package is that for?
[15:19] <xnox> could be anything. I whink I found a bug in qt4's moc.
[15:19] <xnox> https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-22829
[15:19] <xnox> aka
[15:19] <xnox> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=756395
[15:19] <xnox> aka bug 1119656
[15:19] <xnox> I'm testing a patch & rebuilding 6 packages which failed with BOOST_JOIN.
[15:19] <Riddell> xnox: that's in kgraphviewer
[15:20] <xnox> Riddell: http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_53_0/libs/spirit/classic/change_log.html
[15:21] <xnox> renamed.
[15:22] <Riddell> xnox: ah that sounds easily patchable then
[16:01] <Riddell> xnox: ok with a ubiquity upload?  I want to test the fix for the kubuntu oem slideshow
[16:01] <xnox> Riddell: yeah, go ahead =)
[16:01] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1119656] plot-qt demo fails to build with Boost 1.53 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1119656 (by Garth Wells)
[16:32] <ovidiu-florin> hello world :D
[16:32] <ovidiu-florin> this bug is the cause that forces me at work to use thunderbird: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317387
[16:37] <Riddell> that coule be annoying yes
[16:37] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: if they come up with a patch you might want to try and get it in the packages
[16:38] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I would
[16:38] <ovidiu-florin> If I could afford it I think I would pay someone to do it
[16:39] <ovidiu-florin> I mean to make a patch
[16:40] <ovidiu-florin> this is one of the reasons that might force me off linux at work
[16:40] <ovidiu-florin> I hope this won't happen
[17:07] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: you posted about a romanian website?
[17:08] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[17:08] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ^
[17:09] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: so I think we'd be all for it
[17:09] <Riddell> it's a question of how
[17:09] <ovidiu-florin> how what?
[17:10] <Riddell> how to put up a website
[17:10] <Riddell> it's currently a drupal website
[17:10] <Riddell> on a canonical server
[17:10] <ovidiu-florin> I think if we just translate the enclish one would be enough
[17:10] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: but there's technical details of where to host and how to keep it up to date
[17:11] <Riddell> the easiest way would be just to give you details to access the current web server and you can make pages under /ro/ URLs
[17:11] <ovidiu-florin> I could host it on my serverbut I can't guarantee that it will be 100% available
[17:12] <ovidiu-florin> maybe with automatic IP detection based on location and redirect to the ro site?
[17:12] <ovidiu-florin> meybe durpal has a module for that
[17:13] <ovidiu-florin> s/meybe/maybe
[17:14] <ovidiu-florin> my server is located at my home
[17:14] <ovidiu-florin> it's an 8 year old laptop
[17:15] <ovidiu-florin> http://ovidiub13.dyndns.org
[17:19] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: how about you set it up on your server so we know it all works, we buy the domain name and ask canonical to host it when it's all ready?
[17:35] <volkan> Riddell: Hi Jonathan. 
[17:35] <volkan> Riddell: I just read your email regarding to localized websites. what can we do for it?
[17:36] <Riddell> volkan: you're the guy who wants to do a turkish one?
[17:37] <volkan> Riddell: yes. 
[17:38] <volkan> Riddell: but of course my wish was not only for turkish. 
[17:52] <Riddell> volkan: so one way to do it would be set up a server and install drupal and get it all going
[17:52] <Riddell> then get a domain name and a more permanant server once it's ready
[17:52] <Riddell> another way that might work is just giving access details to the current website so you can make pages under /tr/foo
[17:54] <volkan> Riddell: hmm. what about the images on the website? e.g. in features page the images contain English text. Do you keep the project files for these images?
[17:56] <Riddell> volkan: no they'd need to be set up again, but the screenshots on the features page are really out of date and need redone anyway
[17:57] <volkan> Riddell: so than for this moment, copying all the structure of main site into a subfolder and translating, right?
[17:57] <volkan> *then
[17:58] <volkan> and on the mail you already told me this site was using drupal. maybe there is an extension (or module, plugin etc) to enable multi-languages on pages? actually I havent used drupal
[18:04] <Riddell> volkan: yeah there's no subfolders in drupal, it's just a database
[18:05] <Riddell> There probably is various modules for translations but I've never looked into it I'm afraid
[18:05] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin here is also interested in doing one
[18:05] <Riddell> for romanian
[18:06] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ever set up drupal?
[18:07] <volkan> Riddell: yes it will be good. otherwise we can check and test it on our local laptops. can we just download the whole structure?
[18:08] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I've used drupal for a while
[18:08] <volkan> if you can dump the database and send, we can start
[18:08] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I could say I have some experience with it
[18:10] <ovidiu-florin> volkan: I don't think a DB dump is enough
[18:10] <ovidiu-florin> we also need to know what modules they have installed
[18:11] <Riddell> oh gosh I've no idea what modules it uses
[18:11] <Riddell> it's hosted by canonical
[18:11] <Riddell> the theme is lp:~kubuntu-website/kubuntu-website/kubuntu.org
[18:11] <ovidiu-florin> go to modules and print the page as PDF
[18:12] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: question: if canonical no longer supports kubuntu why is the website hosted there?
[18:13] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/tmp/ModulesKubuntu.pdf
[18:14] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: canonical still provides the hosting and many other things for kubuntu, it's all part of the bigger ubuntu project
[18:15] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: where can the theme be downlaoded from?
[18:16] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-website/kubuntu-website/kubuntu.org
[18:17] <ovidiu-florin> stupid question: is that a command/link? sorry I don't know
[18:19] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: it's a command
[18:19] <Riddell> link is https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-website/kubuntu-website/kubuntu.org
[18:22] <ovidiu-florin> cd ..
[18:22] <ovidiu-florin> sorry
[18:23] <Riddell> :)
[18:24] <ovidiu-florin> drupal 7.21 is ok?
[18:25] <yofel__> the site runs on 6.25
[18:25] <ovidiu-florin> ok, I'll get 6.28
[18:26] <Riddell> yofel__: how do you know that?
[18:26] <yofel__> http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/site.png
[18:26] <yofel__> Home  ›  Administer  ›  Reports  ›   Status report
[18:28] <Riddell> clever
[18:28] <volkan> Riddell: btw i have written a long mail before. i hope you could check it out sometime. it is related to kubuntu documentation and some other non-translatabel applications.
[18:28] <Riddell> volkan: yep still going through my e-mail
[18:30] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: are those modules comes by default?
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> volkan: I'l answer that once I'll install a drupal
[18:30] <ovidiu-florin> in a moment
[18:31] <ovidiu-florin> I have to move things around a bit
[18:31] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: ok cool :)
[18:39] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: and for the videos, you are the volunteer for romaian sub or dub, right?
[18:40] <volkan> Riddell: did you find time to read the mail regarding to ubiquity slidevideos?
[18:40] <ovidiu-florin> volkan: yes
[18:41] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: do you want to volunteer for recording some videos?
[18:41] <ovidiu-florin> I don't have the time to also do the recordings
[18:42] <volkan> my plan was only recording and using subtitles, since me (and probably some other volunteers ) are not native and it may be annoying and seem not professional
[18:43] <Riddell> volkan: as you noticed, we do need poked hard to ensure these things are working
[18:43] <Riddell> volkan: please do keep poking us
[18:44] <Riddell> volkan: the slideshow translations I've not thought about before, I know it's possible, I'll look into how they're done
[18:44] <Riddell> volkan: the docs translations need to be manually integrated each release so you do need to poke us into doing that
[18:45] <Riddell> hmm and userconfig, good question
[18:45] <ovidiu-florin> that reminds me, I have to file a few bug reports
[18:45] <ovidiu-florin> but I'll come back to that
[18:46] <volkan> Riddell: ok, whom should I ask for integration of documents?
[18:46] <volkan> Riddell: also the outdated links in Kubuntu Wiki translation pages?
[18:54] <Riddell> volkan: poke me or Darkwing but it'll be done near to release time
[18:55] <Riddell> I suppose it might be useful to do an interim docs with translations soon though so we remember how to do it
[18:55] <Riddell> volkan: which translation pag?
[18:55] <Riddell> page?
[18:56] <volkan> Riddell: ok before april mid. then right?
[18:56] <volkan> i will poke you
[18:56] <volkan> Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Translations
[18:57] <volkan> Riddell: and it seems since precise it does not get these specific strings from Launchpad since it seems they are still english :/.
[18:57] <volkan> if you want I can make a list of strings that are not translated and post somewhere
[19:04] <soee> hmm who removed my skype :M
[19:07] <Riddell> volkan: yeah that would be good
[19:07] <Riddell> volkan: thanks so much for looking into this, it's too easy for us to skip over
[19:11] <volkan> Riddell: no problem. drawback of using Kubuntu in English :)
[19:23] <volkan> Riddell: I created a google doc file. i will inform you again in mid-april
[19:23] <volkan> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uvl6um0fwFVOKzC3bM9jvEwZbqK33gleV2yRi_dbpMU/edit?usp=sharing
[19:23] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: have you noticed those problems in Romanian localization?
[19:23] <Riddell> thanks volkan, I'll try and reply to your e-mails tomorrow
[19:28] <ovidiu-florin> volkan: sorry I missed a few... what problems?
[19:28] <volkan> Riddell: no problem. Also is there any other touchpad utility since synaptiks is not developed anymore (as i remember from their website) and crashes all the time for me
[19:29] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: the translation problems that I ve listed here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uvl6um0fwFVOKzC3bM9jvEwZbqK33gleV2yRi_dbpMU/edit?usp=sharing
[19:32] <ovidiu-florin> I'm also a member of LibreOffice Romanian team
[19:32] <ovidiu-florin> LO is still under translation
[19:33] <ovidiu-florin> LO 4 has updated translations
[19:33] <ovidiu-florin> what version is default with kubuntu?
[19:33] <ovidiu-florin> I forgot
[19:34] <ovidiu-florin> I know who is envolved in KDE Ro translation and I've asked for membership and access, but I haven't reveived it yet
[19:34] <ovidiu-florin> volkan: ^
[19:35] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I've updated my server now it can be accessed by the url: http://geekaliens.com
[19:35] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: Sürüm4.0.1.2 (İnşa No: 400m0(Build:2))
[19:35] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: the kubuntu.ro website is available at http://geekaliens.com/kubuntu.ro
[19:35] <volkan> ops sory
[19:36] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: Version 4.0.1.2 (Build: 400m0(Build:2))
[19:36] <ovidiu-florin> volkan: on which Kubuntu release?
[19:36] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: 13.04 beta1, but it was the same with 12.10 (i jst upgraded)
[19:45] <Darkwing> volkan: As soon as the doc freeze hits, I'll upload the pot files for translations
[19:48] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I've installed the kubuntu theme. Could I also get a DB dump to use ?
[19:53] <volkan> Darkwing: thanks for answering. for docbook, is it required that all linking documents need to be translated
[19:53] <volkan> i mean in development part, there are 26 string missing and I am afraid if i can finish till mid*april
[20:02] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ah, DB dump is harder, I don't have access to that, it would need to come from the canonical sysadmins, who are notoriously slow at doing anything
[20:11] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: will you be able to try a plugin for multilanguage support?
[20:17] <Darkwing> volkan: I'll have to check. Can you shoot me an email david.wonderly@kubuntu.org to remind me?
[20:27] <ovidiu-florin> volkan: I've allready tried that in drupal and it failed
[20:27] <ovidiu-florin> but I've tried that about one year ago
[20:27] <ovidiu-florin> so, I don't know the current state
[20:30] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: ok then. maybe I could try it too. should we use the same version of drupal?
[20:31] <volkan> Darkwing: ok. i am sending it now
[20:31] <ovidiu-florin> I've went for drupal 6 for better compatibility with kubuntu.org
[20:35] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: what about the plugins? will you try it after database dump?
[20:35] <ovidiu-florin> I can't get the DB dump
[20:35] <volkan> can u also post it under Kubuntu Localization mails that you sent last if you find something new
[20:36] <ovidiu-florin> volkan:  I'm not sure I understand what you mean
[20:44] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: can you send an e-mail regarding to database dump if you get it under last mail for Localization in kubuntu-devel (that I wrote at the beginning)
[20:45] <ovidiu-florin> ah, yes, of course
[20:45] <volkan> so that maybe then I can also get it and start translating. then they can decide integrating under kubuntu.org
[20:56] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: whom do I have to contact to get the DB dump?
[20:58] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell volkan if we can't get the db dump I recommend we make a template for the LoCo websites that won't include everithing on the main website, but it will include instructions on how to use/get kubuntu
[21:00] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: I hope we will. if not yes, we can use the html files under kubuntu-theme to translate and some texts on loco websites. but having them supported by kubuntu is more effective i think
[21:18] <volkan> ovidiu-florin Riddell i wonder if there is a way to backup database under drupal
[21:19] <volkan> maybe in this case it is very easy
[21:19] <ovidiu-florin> volkan: there should be a module for that
[21:22] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: probably this one: http://drupal.org/project/backup_migrate
[21:23] <ovidiu-florin> could be
[22:40] <jaysonr> apt-cache search cpufreq
[22:40] <jaysonr> dang :-)
[22:54] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: that'll be canonical sysadmin e-mailing rt@ubuntu.com
[22:55] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: rt?
[22:58] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: rt is some sort of issue tracker database, for some reason they don't just use launchpad bugs
[22:58] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: rt@ubuntu.com? do I need to subscribe to that mail list?
[22:58] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: no just send, ask in #canonical-sysadmin for more details
[22:58] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[22:58] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[23:00] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: you should get a reply back with a number, give it to me and I'll add that the request is legic
[23:00] <Riddell> legit
[23:03] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: should I write a formal email explaining what I need?
[23:05] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: yes
[23:06] <ovidiu-florin> can I mentoin that I got the email address from you?
[23:07] <ovidiu-florin> mention*
[23:07] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: mention that I told you to file the request
[23:07] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[23:09] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: doesn't anybody have permissions to install modules on the site?
[23:10] <ovidiu-florin> an module that can export a backup could do all this.
[23:13] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: LaMont Jones told me on #canonical-sysadmins: it would be best to have it go thru RT if for nothing more than tracking..
[23:13] <ovidiu-florin> I'm not sure what this means
[23:14] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: it means you should e-mail that request so they have a log of it
[23:14] <Riddell> only the canonical sysadmins have permissions to install anything on it
[23:15] <Riddell> this is quite frustrating I know
[23:16]  * Riddell sleeps
[23:17] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: is this ok? https://notes.kde.org/p/uiK48PpB7R
[23:22] <ovidiu-florin> request sent
[23:55] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: good luck! hope we get a reply
[23:56] <ovidiu-florin> I've got the the track ID... and now.. I'm jsut waiting
[23:58] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: did you forward this id to Jonathan, too? 
[23:58] <ovidiu-florin> yes