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jonosomeone mind redditing the living daylights out of http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/26/more-regular-open-and-transparent-planning/00:39
jono:-)00:39
bkerensaok00:39
jonothanks bkerensa00:40
JoseeAntonioRjono: ping00:45
jonohey JoseeAntonioR00:46
JoseeAntonioRjono: how's it going?00:46
jonoJoseeAntonioR, great, thanks!00:46
JoseeAntonioRjono: just wanted to mention we're having some calendar crashes, may I ask what's your time right now?00:47
jono5.47pkm00:47
jonopm00:47
JoseeAntonioRok, so let's start with this point, randall mentioned you guys wanted to use ubuntuonair for weekly community hangouts, right?00:48
JoseeAntonioRhere's the info, 20 utc each wed00:50
bkerensajono: is there anyway to ascertain what Canonical is sending on Conf Packs these days? The list on the wiki seems different from whats actually sent00:55
bkerensame and JoseeAntonioR were just discussing it00:55
JoseeAntonioRyeah00:56
JoseeAntonioRthat too00:56
jonoJoseeAntonioR, weekly hangouts?01:08
JoseeAntonioRjono: yes, he said he talked to you to have your Q&A, a free hour and then the hangout, where anyone could join01:09
JoseeAntonioRit's to discuss general community topics, and for locos to also get help in what they need01:10
JoseeAntonioRor maybe share their experiences01:11
jonoJoseeAntonioR, hmmm, I am not sure what he is referring to01:20
JoseeAntonioRjono: well, let's move on to the other deal. your Q&A was at 11 pacific, which *was* 19 UTC, now there's been DST corrections and your Q&A would be at 12 pacific, you have the option to keep it at 11 pacific, or 19 UTC, your choice01:21
jonoJoseeAntonioR, lets keep it at 7pm UTC01:22
jonowhat time is that pacific now?01:22
JoseeAntonioRjono: that's 12 pacific atm :)01:22
jonoJoseeAntonioR, np01:22
JoseeAntonioRgreat then, thanks!01:23
jonothanks JoseeAntonioR01:23
JoseeAntonioRno worries01:23
jonobkerensa, good question01:29
jonobkerensa, can you mail Michelle about this?01:29
bkerensajono: sure01:30
jonothanks bkerensa!01:30
jonook gotta run01:31
jonolaters!01:31
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jonohey folks03:41
cjohnstonhey03:46
JoseeAntonioRhey jono03:50
jonohey cjohnston, JoseeAntonioR03:50
jonomhall119, around?04:34
jonoor cjohnston :-)04:34
jonothis is Jono asking for Django help time04:34
jonolol04:34
pleia2well that's a sure fire way to make sure they're all hiding :)04:35
jonopleia2, good point :-)04:36
pleia2I suggest "free bbq!"04:36
vibhavheh04:36
jonolol04:36
vibhavI'm very sure that its Murphy's law that new packages with new features will land in Debian during Feature Freeze in ubuntu :\04:37
bkerensaoh dear07:32
bkerensaI got my UTC mixed up07:32
dholbachgood morning07:42
philipballewmorning dholbach07:44
dholbachhey philipballew07:45
czajkowskialoha07:59
Tm_TK'day all08:09
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benonsoftware.sort09:22
benonsoftwareOops, sorry about that.09:23
dholbachdpm, ALTER!10:19
dpmhey10:20
dholbachdpm, telefonieren wir?10:20
dpmdholbach, klar. Gib mir 5 minuten10:20
dholbachdpm, so... Attacke! :)10:26
dpmdholbach, ok!10:28
dholbachdpm, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/0ee550f2510456b2b534658e80cc01ac38ca36eb?authuser=0&hl=de10:28
dholbachdpm, http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-developers10:41
dholbachdpm, http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-developers10:41
dholbachmhall119, can we have a quick call when you get online?11:36
JoseeAntonioRdholbach: hey, you're not having a hangout today, right?11:37
dholbachJoseeAntonioR, no, but from next week onwards there'll be hangouts again11:41
JoseeAntonioRgreat, thanks!11:49
dholbachthank YOU11:52
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cjohnstonsomeone wake up balloons13:04
mhall119dholbach: ready?13:51
dholbachmhall119, in 5m :)14:00
dholbachmhall119, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/30247844fa1978768b84b31f63883fd847f7cc5414:05
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dholbachmhall119, thanks14:14
mhall119np14:14
dpm_dholbach, yesterday I sent a MP for the i18n support on the code of conduct. Would you be able to look at it or get someone on the CC to do so? Once the .pot file lands in trunk we could enable translations for the project14:20
dpm_https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-codeofconduct/v2-draft/+merge/15521714:20
dholbachdpm_, I'll take a look at it14:23
dpm_dholbach, thanks. It's not urgent at all, but I'd like to finish it off, as it's been an open project for quite a while14:24
dholbachdpm_, hum14:26
dholbachdaniel@daydream:~/bzr/ubuntu-codeofconduct$ ./translate.sh14:26
dholbachpo/po4a.cfg:2: Keine POT-Dateien in po gefunden14:26
dholbach (50 Einträge)14:26
dholbachdaniel@daydream:~/bzr/ubuntu-codeofconduct$14:26
dholbachdpm_, ^ am I doing something wrong?14:27
dpm_dholbach, no, that's fine. The script does 2 things at once: 1) Update the POT file and 2) Create CodeOfConduct.$LANG.txt files from PO files. As there are no PO files yet (we haven't enabled translation in LP), it's simply complaining that it cannot create the translated .txt files14:28
dholbachI just thought that it can't fine .pot files?14:29
dholbachah ok, it doesn't complain if I add a .po file14:29
dholbachnevermind :)14:29
dpm_ah, I see what you mean now.14:29
dpm_I think it's a bad translation of the original English warning in po4a14:30
dpm_let me check14:30
dholbachyeah, no worries14:31
dholbachdpm_, pushed14:32
dholbachdpm_, I'll set the bug to fix committed for now14:32
dholbachis there anything I need to change in LP?14:32
dpm_dholbach, cool, thanks. Indeed, the German translation should say "Keine PO-Dateien"14:32
dpm_$ LC_ALL=C ./translate.sh14:32
dpm_po/po4a.cfg:2: no PO files found in po14:32
dpm_ (50 entries)14:32
dholbachit works when I copied po/bla.pot po/de.po14:33
dpm_yes, then it finds PO files14:33
dpm_dholbach, yes, if you've got 5 minutes we can enable translations now. I'm not sure I've got permissions on that project, but if you do, we can do it together14:33
dholbachdpm_, structured permissions for ubuntu translators?14:33
dholbachdpm_, and I'll automatically export translations to the branch too?14:34
dpm_dholbach, let's use Restricted for now (the same as for the ubuntu project in LP), assigned to Ubuntu Translations14:35
dpm_sorry, to Ubuntu Translators, I meant14:35
dpm_dholbach, yes, and the same branch for imports and exports14:35
dholbachok, perfect14:36
dholbachlet me see where I can change it to restricted now :)14:36
dpm_dholbach, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-codeofconduct/+configure-translations14:38
dholbachok, restricted14:38
dholbachok, we're all set14:38
dholbachdpm_, thanks a lot14:41
dholbachdpm_, how long until it turns up in lp?14:41
dpm_dholbach, cool. Yeah, it seems so -> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-codeofconduct - we will have to wait about 20 mins for the POT file to be fully imported14:41
dholbachok14:41
dpm_dholbach, once it's set up we should probably talk to czajkowski to see if translated versions of the CoC could be used in LP as well.14:43
dholbachdpm_, mhall119, jcastro_, balloons: so about those work items....14:49
dholbachdoes ubuntu-13.04-month-6 mean "to be completed just before the next vUDS"?14:49
dholbachand ubuntu-13.04-month-5 is the month before and so on?14:49
dholbachso 6 means June, 5 means May, etc?14:49
jcastro_the number is not the month14:49
jcastro_(I know, weird)14:49
dholbachwhat is it14:50
dholbachhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-converged-network-stack has ubuntu-13.04-month-5 and ubuntu-13.04-month-614:50
dholbachand I don't get it14:50
czajkowskithats very confusing14:50
dholbachand it just has "Work items" too14:50
* dholbach asks the lool14:50
dpm_dholbach, I think months are counted from the last UDS14:50
dholbachso that'd mean that ubuntu-13.04-month-6 is april since our last uds was after 12.10 or something?14:51
dpm_that's my understanding, yes14:51
mhall119dholbach: I took it to mean "last month of the Raring dev cycle"14:51
dholbachaha14:51
jcastro_yeah, it's the months in the cycle14:51
czajkowskiit's not very clear14:51
jcastro_it doesn't match the calendar month14:51
dholbachok, wfm14:51
czajkowskibah14:52
mhall119so it's work items to be completed by the end of April14:52
jcastro_so like, we called uds UDS 130314:52
dholbachif you smoke the right stuff it all makes sense :-P14:52
mhall119czajkowski: no, it's not14:52
jcastro_I don't know why we just didn't do "ubuntu-13.05" and so on14:52
czajkowskimhall119: yes it is!14:52
mhall119I mean, no it's not very clear14:53
mhall119so, my "no" was a positive agreement14:53
mhall119it's not very clear :(14:53
mhall119darn you English!14:53
* czajkowski peers at mhall119 14:53
czajkowskitoday is not the day mister :)14:53
jcastro_dholbach: ok so you're doing all of them to month-6?14:58
dholbachjcastro_, I moved all the done stuff to month-514:58
dholbachand the rest to month-6, and put the stuff which is not on our personal plate on "work items"14:59
jcastro_ok so tldr, we're all putting stuff in month 6?15:01
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dholbachjcastro_, yes15:07
dholbachbrb15:11
mhall119yes15:22
technovikingmorning folks15:29
* popey runs up and cuddles technoviking 15:30
technovikingawwwww15:33
dholbachworking the rest of the day from a café nearby to get a bit outside today15:34
dholbachand what do I see next to me?15:34
dholbachan Ubuntu laptop15:34
dholbachYES15:34
dholbach:)15:34
popeyhaha15:35
popeyare you sat next to a mirrored wall?15:35
dholbachpopey, man that'd be awesome! the launcher finally on the right side!15:36
popeyhahah15:36
popeycomedy gold15:36
popeyjust learn arabic15:37
jcastro_lol15:37
dholbachpopey, will do15:37
dholbachإن شاء الله15:37
technovikingjcastro_: everything work out on the forums?15:38
technovikingpopey: you leave Facebook, or just don't like me anymore:)15:38
popeyyes15:39
jcastro_technoviking: yeah, it seems to be rocking so far15:39
jcastro_I mean, I'm sure the  mods had some work to do15:39
jcastro_but not enough for them to complain about it15:39
jcastro_so I'm assuming it's all roses and tulips15:39
popeyi unfriended _everyone_ not just you technoviking15:39
popey(or did I)15:39
popeyI have reverted fb back to just family and stupid groups that are only on fb15:39
popeyno friend, no co-workers at all15:39
popey15:39
technovikingheh15:40
popeyearly beer where you are!15:40
dholbachpopey, if you unfriended ME, it's over15:40
technovikingjcastro_: asked if they needed anymore help, never heard back, so I amused all was cool15:40
jcastro_the site is running great though15:41
popeydholbach: not the first to say that :D https://twitter.com/deanashby/status/31653051312703897615:41
jcastro_I asked about looking at discourse, but nobody seemed keen on investigating15:41
technovikingjcastro_: specing out a 100TB cluster for work. Plan to manage it all with juju charm. Will write it up if it gets approved by the power that be15:42
technovikingjcastro_: discourse15:42
dholbachpopey, I can't believe it! that's the second time you dumped me on FB15:42
technovikingI will switch over to Google+ as soon as they have a usable API for third party apps15:44
jcastro_hah, I doubt G+ will ever have a usable third party API15:44
technovikingI can dream15:45
jcastro_dholbach: one more thing15:59
jcastro_everything that is NOT for the next 3 month cycle, what do we tag it with?15:59
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dholbachjcastro_, "Work items:"15:59
jcastro_oh ok15:59
jcastro_so we're not targetting everything, we're targetting the recent ones15:59
jcastro_gotcha15:59
elfyjcastro_: it's not that we're not 'keen' more that we've not finished doing what we're doing16:03
* jcastro_ nods16:04
elfywe're half wat through a discussion about discourse - once we've finished one of us will mail you :)16:04
jcastro_oh ok16:04
jcastro_I didn't know you were discussing it seperately16:04
jcastro_I just figured no one loved me enough to respond. :p16:04
elfy:)16:05
elfythe obvious issue we have at the moment is - why? we've just spent almost 3 years doing what we have done lol16:06
elfyanyway - it's not been ignored16:07
jcastro_yeah, I get that16:08
jcastro_it's like, the UI is nicer and cleaner, and it's actually OSS.16:08
dholbachhey tiagoscd, how are you doing?16:09
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jcastro_dholbach: last time I bother you, I promise16:24
jcastro_link to one of your BPs that is finished?16:24
jcastro_<--- when it comes to work items, I've learned to doublecheck the syntax like 50 times.16:24
dholbachjcastro_, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-1303-revamping-ubuntu-community-pages16:25
dholbachwe're still adding work items, but the structure should be all right16:25
jcastro_good enough to steal!16:26
dpm_dholbach, ok, it seems translations for the CoC work already ;)17:32
dpm_https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-codeofconduct/trunk/+pots/codeofconduct/ca/+translate17:32
dholbachNICE17:33
dholbachthanks dpm_17:34
dholbachall right my friends17:38
dholbachI call it a day17:38
dholbachsee you all tomorrow!17:38
dholbachhugs hugs17:38
popeyo/17:38
bkerensajcastro_: will you be in Portland lunchtime on April 14th?18:24
pleia2bkerensa: which day were we shooting for lunch, tuesday or wednesday?18:27
pleia2work thing popped up for tuesday18:27
bkerensapleia2: Dell guys said Sunday18:28
bkerensa=o18:28
pleia2(we'll see if I actually have to attend :)18:28
pleia2ah, I won't be in town18:28
bkerensaoh18:28
bkerensa:(18:28
pleia2not flying in until monday morning18:28
bkerensa:'(18:28
bkerensaoh18:28
bkerensahuh well pleia2 I think they have lunch at the summit too? not sure if so we should catch lunch one day18:29
pleia2yeah18:29
pleia2unfortunately this all lands a week before my wedding, I couldn't afford to come in early/stay late, too much to do at home :)18:30
bkerensaindeed18:30
bkerensaI think some folks come early to bask in the local food and beer18:30
jcastro_bkerensa: I should be but don't book me for anything pls.18:31
jcastro_I don't know my exact itenerary18:31
pleia2bkerensa: normally I would :)18:31
bkerensajcastro_: ok well if you land early ping me.... will be doing lunch at Peoples Sandwich of Portland and your free to join18:31
pleia2but I was just in Portland in July, so I got my donuts and rogue18:31
bkerensapff rogue18:31
bkerensa:D18:31
bkerensapleia2: http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/hopworks-gigabit-ipa/174284/18:32
bkerensaGigabit Beer :D18:32
bkerensapleia2: which day do you leave?18:35
pleia2bkerensa: as soon as it ends18:35
bkerensaoh :)18:36
pleia2flying out that evening18:36
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PabloRubianesjono, ping, have a minute?20:20
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