[00:39] <jono> someone mind redditing the living daylights out of http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/26/more-regular-open-and-transparent-planning/
[00:39] <jono> :-)
[00:39] <bkerensa> ok
[00:40] <jono> thanks bkerensa
[00:45] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: ping
[00:46] <jono> hey JoseeAntonioR
[00:46] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: how's it going?
[00:46] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, great, thanks!
[00:47] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: just wanted to mention we're having some calendar crashes, may I ask what's your time right now?
[00:47] <jono> 5.47pkm
[00:47] <jono> pm
[00:48] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, so let's start with this point, randall mentioned you guys wanted to use ubuntuonair for weekly community hangouts, right?
[00:50] <JoseeAntonioR> here's the info, 20 utc each wed
[00:55] <bkerensa> jono: is there anyway to ascertain what Canonical is sending on Conf Packs these days? The list on the wiki seems different from whats actually sent
[00:55] <bkerensa> me and JoseeAntonioR were just discussing it
[00:56] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah
[00:56] <JoseeAntonioR> that too
[01:08] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, weekly hangouts?
[01:09] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: yes, he said he talked to you to have your Q&A, a free hour and then the hangout, where anyone could join
[01:10] <JoseeAntonioR> it's to discuss general community topics, and for locos to also get help in what they need
[01:11] <JoseeAntonioR> or maybe share their experiences
[01:20] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, hmmm, I am not sure what he is referring to
[01:21] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: well, let's move on to the other deal. your Q&A was at 11 pacific, which *was* 19 UTC, now there's been DST corrections and your Q&A would be at 12 pacific, you have the option to keep it at 11 pacific, or 19 UTC, your choice
[01:22] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, lets keep it at 7pm UTC
[01:22] <jono> what time is that pacific now?
[01:22] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: that's 12 pacific atm :)
[01:22] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, np
[01:23] <JoseeAntonioR> great then, thanks!
[01:23] <jono> thanks JoseeAntonioR
[01:23] <JoseeAntonioR> no worries
[01:29] <jono> bkerensa, good question
[01:29] <jono> bkerensa, can you mail Michelle about this?
[01:30] <bkerensa> jono: sure
[01:30] <jono> thanks bkerensa!
[01:31] <jono> ok gotta run
[01:31] <jono> laters!
[03:41] <jono> hey folks
[03:46] <cjohnston> hey
[03:50] <JoseeAntonioR> hey jono
[03:50] <jono> hey cjohnston, JoseeAntonioR
[04:34] <jono> mhall119, around?
[04:34] <jono> or cjohnston :-)
[04:34] <jono> this is Jono asking for Django help time
[04:34] <jono> lol
[04:35] <pleia2> well that's a sure fire way to make sure they're all hiding :)
[04:36] <jono> pleia2, good point :-)
[04:36] <pleia2> I suggest "free bbq!"
[04:36] <vibhav> heh
[04:36] <jono> lol
[04:37] <vibhav> I'm very sure that its Murphy's law that new packages with new features will land in Debian during Feature Freeze in ubuntu :\
[07:32] <bkerensa> oh dear
[07:32] <bkerensa> I got my UTC mixed up
[07:42] <dholbach> good morning
[07:44] <philipballew> morning dholbach
[07:45] <dholbach> hey philipballew
[07:59] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:09] <Tm_T> K'day all
[09:22] <benonsoftware> .sort
[09:23] <benonsoftware> Oops, sorry about that.
[10:19] <dholbach> dpm, ALTER!
[10:20] <dpm> hey
[10:20] <dholbach> dpm, telefonieren wir?
[10:20] <dpm> dholbach, klar. Gib mir 5 minuten
[10:26] <dholbach> dpm, so... Attacke! :)
[10:28] <dpm> dholbach, ok!
[10:28] <dholbach> dpm, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/0ee550f2510456b2b534658e80cc01ac38ca36eb?authuser=0&hl=de
[10:41] <dholbach> dpm, http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-developers
[10:41] <dholbach> dpm, http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-developers
[11:36] <dholbach> mhall119, can we have a quick call when you get online?
[11:37] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach: hey, you're not having a hangout today, right?
[11:41] <dholbach> JoseeAntonioR, no, but from next week onwards there'll be hangouts again
[11:49] <JoseeAntonioR> great, thanks!
[11:52] <dholbach> thank YOU
[13:04] <cjohnston> someone wake up balloons
[13:51] <mhall119> dholbach: ready?
[14:00] <dholbach> mhall119, in 5m :)
[14:05] <dholbach> mhall119, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/30247844fa1978768b84b31f63883fd847f7cc54
[14:14] <dholbach> mhall119, thanks
[14:14] <mhall119> np
[14:20] <dpm_> dholbach, yesterday I sent a MP for the i18n support on the code of conduct. Would you be able to look at it or get someone on the CC to do so? Once the .pot file lands in trunk we could enable translations for the project
[14:20] <dpm_> https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-codeofconduct/v2-draft/+merge/155217
[14:23] <dholbach> dpm_, I'll take a look at it
[14:24] <dpm_> dholbach, thanks. It's not urgent at all, but I'd like to finish it off, as it's been an open project for quite a while
[14:26] <dholbach> dpm_, hum
[14:26] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~/bzr/ubuntu-codeofconduct$ ./translate.sh
[14:26] <dholbach> po/po4a.cfg:2: Keine POT-Dateien in po gefunden
[14:26] <dholbach>  (50 Einträge)
[14:26] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~/bzr/ubuntu-codeofconduct$
[14:27] <dholbach> dpm_, ^ am I doing something wrong?
[14:28] <dpm_> dholbach, no, that's fine. The script does 2 things at once: 1) Update the POT file and 2) Create CodeOfConduct.$LANG.txt files from PO files. As there are no PO files yet (we haven't enabled translation in LP), it's simply complaining that it cannot create the translated .txt files
[14:29] <dholbach> I just thought that it can't fine .pot files?
[14:29] <dholbach> ah ok, it doesn't complain if I add a .po file
[14:29] <dholbach> nevermind :)
[14:29] <dpm_> ah, I see what you mean now.
[14:30] <dpm_> I think it's a bad translation of the original English warning in po4a
[14:30] <dpm_> let me check
[14:31] <dholbach> yeah, no worries
[14:32] <dholbach> dpm_, pushed
[14:32] <dholbach> dpm_, I'll set the bug to fix committed for now
[14:32] <dholbach> is there anything I need to change in LP?
[14:32] <dpm_> dholbach, cool, thanks. Indeed, the German translation should say "Keine PO-Dateien"
[14:32] <dpm_> $ LC_ALL=C ./translate.sh
[14:32] <dpm_> po/po4a.cfg:2: no PO files found in po
[14:32] <dpm_>  (50 entries)
[14:33] <dholbach> it works when I copied po/bla.pot po/de.po
[14:33] <dpm_> yes, then it finds PO files
[14:33] <dpm_> dholbach, yes, if you've got 5 minutes we can enable translations now. I'm not sure I've got permissions on that project, but if you do, we can do it together
[14:33] <dholbach> dpm_, structured permissions for ubuntu translators?
[14:34] <dholbach> dpm_, and I'll automatically export translations to the branch too?
[14:35] <dpm_> dholbach, let's use Restricted for now (the same as for the ubuntu project in LP), assigned to Ubuntu Translations
[14:35] <dpm_> sorry, to Ubuntu Translators, I meant
[14:35] <dpm_> dholbach, yes, and the same branch for imports and exports
[14:36] <dholbach> ok, perfect
[14:36] <dholbach> let me see where I can change it to restricted now :)
[14:38] <dpm_> dholbach, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-codeofconduct/+configure-translations
[14:38] <dholbach> ok, restricted
[14:38] <dholbach> ok, we're all set
[14:41] <dholbach> dpm_, thanks a lot
[14:41] <dholbach> dpm_, how long until it turns up in lp?
[14:41] <dpm_> dholbach, cool. Yeah, it seems so -> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-codeofconduct - we will have to wait about 20 mins for the POT file to be fully imported
[14:41] <dholbach> ok
[14:43] <dpm_> dholbach, once it's set up we should probably talk to czajkowski to see if translated versions of the CoC could be used in LP as well.
[14:49] <dholbach> dpm_, mhall119, jcastro_, balloons: so about those work items....
[14:49] <dholbach> does ubuntu-13.04-month-6 mean "to be completed just before the next vUDS"?
[14:49] <dholbach> and ubuntu-13.04-month-5 is the month before and so on?
[14:49] <dholbach> so 6 means June, 5 means May, etc?
[14:49] <jcastro_> the number is not the month
[14:49] <jcastro_> (I know, weird)
[14:50] <dholbach> what is it
[14:50] <dholbach> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-converged-network-stack has ubuntu-13.04-month-5 and ubuntu-13.04-month-6
[14:50] <dholbach> and I don't get it
[14:50] <czajkowski> thats very confusing
[14:50] <dholbach> and it just has "Work items" too
[14:50]  * dholbach asks the lool
[14:50] <dpm_> dholbach, I think months are counted from the last UDS
[14:51] <dholbach> so that'd mean that ubuntu-13.04-month-6 is april since our last uds was after 12.10 or something?
[14:51] <dpm_> that's my understanding, yes
[14:51] <mhall119> dholbach: I took it to mean "last month of the Raring dev cycle"
[14:51] <dholbach> aha
[14:51] <jcastro_> yeah, it's the months in the cycle
[14:51] <czajkowski> it's not very clear
[14:51] <jcastro_> it doesn't match the calendar month
[14:51] <dholbach> ok, wfm
[14:52] <czajkowski> bah
[14:52] <mhall119> so it's work items to be completed by the end of April
[14:52] <jcastro_> so like, we called uds UDS 1303
[14:52] <dholbach> if you smoke the right stuff it all makes sense :-P
[14:52] <mhall119> czajkowski: no, it's not
[14:52] <jcastro_> I don't know why we just didn't do "ubuntu-13.05" and so on
[14:52] <czajkowski> mhall119: yes it is!
[14:53] <mhall119> I mean, no it's not very clear
[14:53] <mhall119> so, my "no" was a positive agreement
[14:53] <mhall119> it's not very clear :(
[14:53] <mhall119> darn you English!
[14:53]  * czajkowski peers at mhall119 
[14:53] <czajkowski> today is not the day mister :)
[14:58] <jcastro_> dholbach: ok so you're doing all of them to month-6?
[14:58] <dholbach> jcastro_, I moved all the done stuff to month-5
[14:59] <dholbach> and the rest to month-6, and put the stuff which is not on our personal plate on "work items"
[15:01] <jcastro_> ok so tldr, we're all putting stuff in month 6?
[15:07] <dholbach> jcastro_, yes
[15:11] <dholbach> brb
[15:22] <mhall119> yes
[15:29] <technoviking> morning folks
[15:30]  * popey runs up and cuddles technoviking 
[15:33] <technoviking> awwwww
[15:34] <dholbach> working the rest of the day from a café nearby to get a bit outside today
[15:34] <dholbach> and what do I see next to me?
[15:34] <dholbach> an Ubuntu laptop
[15:34] <dholbach> YES
[15:34] <dholbach> :)
[15:35] <popey> haha
[15:35] <popey> are you sat next to a mirrored wall?
[15:36] <dholbach> popey, man that'd be awesome! the launcher finally on the right side!
[15:36] <popey> hahah
[15:36] <popey> comedy gold
[15:37] <popey> just learn arabic
[15:37] <jcastro_> lol
[15:37] <dholbach> popey, will do
[15:37] <dholbach> إن شاء الله
[15:38] <technoviking> jcastro_: everything work out on the forums?
[15:38] <technoviking> popey: you leave Facebook, or just don't like me anymore:)
[15:39] <popey> yes
[15:39] <jcastro_> technoviking: yeah, it seems to be rocking so far
[15:39] <jcastro_> I mean, I'm sure the  mods had some work to do
[15:39] <jcastro_> but not enough for them to complain about it
[15:39] <jcastro_> so I'm assuming it's all roses and tulips
[15:39] <popey> i unfriended _everyone_ not just you technoviking
[15:39] <popey> (or did I)
[15:39] <popey> I have reverted fb back to just family and stupid groups that are only on fb
[15:39] <popey> no friend, no co-workers at all
[15:39] <popey> ☹
[15:40] <technoviking> heh
[15:40] <popey> early beer where you are!
[15:40] <dholbach> popey, if you unfriended ME, it's over
[15:40] <technoviking> jcastro_: asked if they needed anymore help, never heard back, so I amused all was cool
[15:41] <jcastro_> the site is running great though
[15:41] <popey> dholbach: not the first to say that :D https://twitter.com/deanashby/status/316530513127038976
[15:41] <jcastro_> I asked about looking at discourse, but nobody seemed keen on investigating
[15:42] <technoviking> jcastro_: specing out a 100TB cluster for work. Plan to manage it all with juju charm. Will write it up if it gets approved by the power that be
[15:42] <technoviking> jcastro_: discourse
[15:42] <dholbach> popey, I can't believe it! that's the second time you dumped me on FB
[15:44] <technoviking> I will switch over to Google+ as soon as they have a usable API for third party apps
[15:44] <jcastro_> hah, I doubt G+ will ever have a usable third party API
[15:45] <technoviking> I can dream
[15:59] <jcastro_> dholbach: one more thing
[15:59] <jcastro_> everything that is NOT for the next 3 month cycle, what do we tag it with?
[15:59] <dholbach> jcastro_, "Work items:"
[15:59] <jcastro_> oh ok
[15:59] <jcastro_> so we're not targetting everything, we're targetting the recent ones
[15:59] <jcastro_> gotcha
[16:03] <elfy> jcastro_: it's not that we're not 'keen' more that we've not finished doing what we're doing
[16:04]  * jcastro_ nods
[16:04] <elfy> we're half wat through a discussion about discourse - once we've finished one of us will mail you :)
[16:04] <jcastro_> oh ok
[16:04] <jcastro_> I didn't know you were discussing it seperately
[16:04] <jcastro_> I just figured no one loved me enough to respond. :p
[16:05] <elfy> :)
[16:06] <elfy> the obvious issue we have at the moment is - why? we've just spent almost 3 years doing what we have done lol
[16:07] <elfy> anyway - it's not been ignored
[16:08] <jcastro_> yeah, I get that
[16:08] <jcastro_> it's like, the UI is nicer and cleaner, and it's actually OSS.
[16:09] <dholbach> hey tiagoscd, how are you doing?
[16:24] <jcastro_> dholbach: last time I bother you, I promise
[16:24] <jcastro_> link to one of your BPs that is finished?
[16:24] <jcastro_> <--- when it comes to work items, I've learned to doublecheck the syntax like 50 times.
[16:25] <dholbach> jcastro_, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-1303-revamping-ubuntu-community-pages
[16:25] <dholbach> we're still adding work items, but the structure should be all right
[16:26] <jcastro_> good enough to steal!
[17:32] <dpm_> dholbach, ok, it seems translations for the CoC work already ;)
[17:32] <dpm_> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-codeofconduct/trunk/+pots/codeofconduct/ca/+translate
[17:33] <dholbach> NICE
[17:34] <dholbach> thanks dpm_
[17:38] <dholbach> all right my friends
[17:38] <dholbach> I call it a day
[17:38] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow!
[17:38] <dholbach> hugs hugs
[17:38] <popey> o/
[18:24] <bkerensa> jcastro_: will you be in Portland lunchtime on April 14th?
[18:27] <pleia2> bkerensa: which day were we shooting for lunch, tuesday or wednesday?
[18:27] <pleia2> work thing popped up for tuesday
[18:28] <bkerensa> pleia2: Dell guys said Sunday
[18:28] <bkerensa> =o
[18:28] <pleia2> (we'll see if I actually have to attend :)
[18:28] <pleia2> ah, I won't be in town
[18:28] <bkerensa> oh
[18:28] <bkerensa> :(
[18:28] <pleia2> not flying in until monday morning
[18:28] <bkerensa> :'(
[18:28] <bkerensa> oh
[18:29] <bkerensa> huh well pleia2 I think they have lunch at the summit too? not sure if so we should catch lunch one day
[18:29] <pleia2> yeah
[18:30] <pleia2> unfortunately this all lands a week before my wedding, I couldn't afford to come in early/stay late, too much to do at home :)
[18:30] <bkerensa> indeed
[18:30] <bkerensa> I think some folks come early to bask in the local food and beer
[18:31] <jcastro_> bkerensa: I should be but don't book me for anything pls.
[18:31] <jcastro_> I don't know my exact itenerary
[18:31] <pleia2> bkerensa: normally I would :)
[18:31] <bkerensa> jcastro_: ok well if you land early ping me.... will be doing lunch at Peoples Sandwich of Portland and your free to join
[18:31] <pleia2> but I was just in Portland in July, so I got my donuts and rogue
[18:31] <bkerensa> pff rogue
[18:31] <bkerensa> :D
[18:32] <bkerensa> pleia2: http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/hopworks-gigabit-ipa/174284/
[18:32] <bkerensa> Gigabit Beer :D
[18:35] <bkerensa> pleia2: which day do you leave?
[18:35] <pleia2> bkerensa: as soon as it ends
[18:36] <bkerensa> oh :)
[18:36] <pleia2> flying out that evening
[20:20] <PabloRubianes> jono, ping, have a minute?