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fnoyanisiI was asked to discuss here :)09:45
fnoyanisiyou already know about this spyware issue in ubuntu09:45
k1lfnoyanisi: did you install ubuntu?09:45
fnoyanisiI've been using it for about a year09:46
k1lfnoyanisi: its not spyware. its a advertisment. but its easily to switch off or to remove09:46
fnoyanisiI am quite happy with it09:46
k1lfnoyanisi: so you took a look at the privacy settings?09:46
fnoyanisithis is not about the "software itself" but the behavior09:46
ejvwell this channel is dead... and the topic says: "No ranting here please", which begs the question, is there an ubuntu channel that supports ranting?09:46
DJonesDo remember, it isn't spyware though, its just a search facility that is easily switched off or removed09:46
fnoyanisiactually, this makes me to worry for future releases.... does this show canonical has something in mid (i mean including these kind of software in their OS)?09:47
k1lfnoyanisi: which kind of software?09:47
fnoyanisicollecting information09:47
fnoyanisisending to "somewhere" etc etc....09:48
fnoyanisithis looks like you are taken as fool.... it can be switched of09:48
fnoyanisiright09:48
fnoyanisibut, it is installed09:48
k1lfnoyanisi: how should a search work with not collectin something?09:48
fnoyanisiand switched ON09:48
ejvfnoyanisi, the fact that you're asking these kinds of questions tells me that you have anywhere little to no idea (at all) about what you're asking.09:48
fnoyanisiejv : thanks09:48
ejvs/anywhere/anywhere\ from/g09:48
fnoyanisiI used other distros, never had such an issue. I was so happy with ubuntu for a bout a year actually09:49
ejvRichard Stallman is spokesperson for the Free Software Foundation; of course he's not going to publicly endorse products and software that are even *slightly* (due to negligence/ignorance) malicious toward end-users. That's his job. That doesn't mean Ubuntu is all-of-a-sudden "spyware".09:50
fnoyanisiejv : I did not mean that. What I meant was, is this some kind of "first step" of a new policy from canonical?09:51
k1lfnoyanisi: first step to what?09:52
fnoyanisiyou guys, using our OS, then we are doing a favour for you, collecting data to make your search easier. hmmmm... well.. we may "sell" it, but we will use this money for the sake of free software09:52
k1lfnoyanisi: there is nothing sold09:53
fnoyanisik1l : maybe any music file you are listening, to make recommendation to you for any popular albums that has just released09:53
ejvAll linux distributions collect basic data on their user population. This is nothing new. Who knows what Canonical has planned.  They are a private company and free to make their own decisions.09:54
k1lfnoyanisi: if you buy smth from amazon clicking on that link in the dash ubuntu will get a refund. there is nothing if you dont buy anything09:54
DJonesFrom memory (this could be an urban myth), doesn't RMS not even use web browsers/internet? Doesn't he have somebody who searchs for things, copys it and then pastes it into a text email? If that was true, all the lense is doing is what he's employing somebody to do :) How long till he sacks that employee for being a spy09:54
k1lfnoyanisi: that amazon ref thing is more than common in the linux world. there are music players who use that for selling music and get a ref for them selves09:55
ejvIf you feel that Ubuntu is infringing upon your liberty due to misunderstanding(s) of the issues, you're free to use other distributions that adhere more strongly to FSF principles. That's the beauty of FOSS.09:59
fnoyanisiejv :I am not new to linux world, but liked ubuntu actually09:59
fnoyanisiafter using slackware for a long time10:00
k1lfnoyanisi: if you rely on listening to RMS then take alook which distros suit into his world and use one of them10:00
ejvok? what does that have to do with what I just said?10:00
fnoyanisiejv : I mean, ubuntu was the peaceful harbour for me :)10:02
ejvIt sounds like you're looking for someone to convince you that Ubuntu is or isn't a "peaceful harbour" (whatever that means). I'm not going to play that game, especially as it seems you've already come to a conclusion. Good luck in your search.10:03
fnoyanisiejv : thanks. much appreciated10:07
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