[00:15] <SergioMeneses> Ursula, \o
[00:26] <SergioMeneses> ok, I'm done! see you later phillw balloons
[00:26] <SergioMeneses> good night
[05:30] <pitti> Good morning
[07:42] <dholbach> good morning
[08:03] <jibel> good morning
[09:04] <psivaa> jibel: thanks for the bug, we'll modify the  test
[09:05] <jibel> psivaa, hi, thank you
[09:05] <psivaa> jibel: thank *you :)
[15:00] <mpt> My MacBook's microphone picked up sound fine in Ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10, but doesn't in R. Where should I start with reporting the bug?
[15:31] <chilicuil> good morning
[15:41] <balloons> hey chilicuil
[15:43] <balloons> chilicuil, how's friends/gwibber?
[15:45] <chilicuil> hi balloons, the package is broken for me, I'm debugging it with the author, I hope I can get it running soon
[16:28] <spineau> pitti: ping
[16:28] <pitti> hey spineau
[16:28] <spineau> pitti: hello
[16:28] <spineau> pitti: may I ask you a question about polkit
[16:28] <pitti> sure, just ask
[16:29] <spineau> pitti: It's about the auth_admin_keep timeout, the doc mention 5 min but it seems that it works until you log out.
[16:30] <spineau> pitti: and in http://cgit.freedesktop.org/polkit/tree/src/polkitbackend/polkitbackendinteractiveauthority.c, around lines 3100-3120, we also have
[16:30] <pitti> spineau: where did you see "5 mins"?
[16:30] <spineau> pitti: authorization->expiration_timeout_id = g_timeout_add (expiration_seconds * 1000
[16:30] <pitti> spineau: auth_admin_keep is meant to be kept for as long as the requesting progam is running; no more, no less
[16:31] <spineau> pitti: 5minutes are mentioned here: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/polkit/docs/latest/polkit.8.html
[16:31] <pitti> spineau: I believe that's for auth_admin, not auth_admin_keep
[16:32] <spineau> pitti: you're probably right, comments are the same for both
[16:33] <pitti> spineau: I don't know what these 5 minutes apply to, I'm afraid
[16:33] <pitti> usually there's "auth_admin" -> once, "a_a_keep" -> as long as the program runs
[16:34] <spineau> pitti: for "a_a_keep", I believe it keeps the auth till the session ends
[16:35] <spineau> pitti: thanks for your help
[16:37] <pitti> spineau: not the session, the subject (i. e. the process that asked for it), I believe
[16:38] <spineau> pitti: ok, interesting
[20:14] <thomi> balloons: ping?
[20:14] <balloons> thomi, hello!
[20:14] <thomi> balloons: hey, quick question: is anyone in your group using the autopilot PPA?
[20:15] <thomi> I ask because we're shortly going to be landing some pretty large autopilot changes to the PPA, so anyone still using it will see some pretty large changes... and AFAIK there's no reason for people to use the PPA anymore
[20:16] <balloons> :-)
[20:16] <balloons> I'm using it.. and some others.. umm
[20:16] <balloons> I mean, I haven't disabled it I should say :-)
[20:16] <thomi> ok. Now might be a good time to switch to the distro releases :)
[20:17] <thomi> you've probably got a few days grace before the large changes start landing
[20:17] <balloons> heh, yes.. this is why the unity team always ends up making new ppas every cycle
[20:17] <balloons> people hang onto them and you can never land unstable builds again
[20:18] <balloons> for instance, what should quantal folks do?
[20:18] <balloons> I'm not trying to talk you into making a 'unstable' ppa, but ;-)
[20:18] <balloons> hello letozaf_
[20:18] <letozaf_> balloons, Hi :D
[20:19] <balloons> letozaf_, may need to stop using the autopilot ppa, or we'll experience breakage :-) Gotta see what thomi says
[20:20] <letozaf_> balloons, oh!
[20:20] <letozaf_> balloons, whats the problem ?
[20:21] <thomi> balloons: it sounds like you should join our Autopilot working group call in 10 minutes time - are you free for a chat?
[20:21] <balloons> no problem, just that they are using it to develop some new stuff
[20:21] <balloons> thomi, heh :-) Sure mate
[20:21] <thomi> balloons: I'll send you an invite.
[20:23] <letozaf_> balloons, anyway I have a partition on my HD with Raring and I use it only for autopilot so if it breaks I just reinstall :D
[20:29] <thomi> balloons: I sent you an invite to your canonical email address
[20:55] <balloons> thomi, :-)
[20:55] <balloons> thanks.. I think it may serve you better in the long run this way
[20:55] <thomi> yeah, I agree
[20:56] <balloons> I know you don't want to support crazy things, but they already are occurring. so if your forced to do so, you've got an answer :-)
[20:56] <balloons> from our perspective, we'll keep following dev and running latest on dev
[20:57] <balloons> so letozaf_ false alarm.. but as we've talked about you don't need the ppa.. did you even add it when you re-installed?
[20:57] <letozaf_> balloons, no I just installed autopilot using apt-get install
[20:57] <balloons> sorry I haven't got a chance to look at your tests btw, probably gonna be later this week
[20:57] <balloons> ahh I thought so
[20:57] <letozaf_> balloons, no problem meanwhile I will work on something else