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ali1234popey: http://friendrouter.com/00:13
ali1234i can still get to you: http://friendrouter.com/route/5150e791bc2e8b75b789b52500:14
popeyhaha00:24
ali1234if you're wondering, the site figures out that you follow htc-linux and htc-linux follows me00:25
popeyi dont mind twitter so much00:25
ali1234it will find such a route between any two twitter users by tree search00:26
ali1234interesting problem because searching the whole tree would exceed the API rate limit00:27
ali1234so it uses geolocation as a heuristic00:27
ali1234http://friendrouter.com/route/5150eaebbc2e8b75b789b52700:33
popeyyay, storywar downloaded00:33
popeyhah00:33
ali1234hulk hogan follows someone who follows john cleese who follows someone who follows you00:34
ali1234and if that's not mildly interesting, i don't know what is00:34
popeyit certainly does rank up there in the mildly segment of the interesting category of things I've learned today00:35
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bootkigftrgdsmorning..01:29
Seeker`afternoon01:30
bootkigftrgdsAlanBell: Just for reference they now sell "Libertus" at Tesco under the 'Relentless' drinks range ...01:30
bootkigftrgds... I'm not sure if it's called 'Apple & Kiwi' or just they 'Sugar Free' version on the can but , either one, It's definately saying 'LIBERTUS' on the cardboard tray holding all the drinks..01:33
bootkigftrgdsI tried to take a picture, but became aware of the thousand eyes watching me doing so ..01:33
bootkigftrgdsS0oo I'll have to leave it till I get my adventurous to being thrown out of the local store :)01:34
bootkigftrgds**get more adventurous ..01:35
bootkigftrgds.. hi Seeker`..01:35
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redtape-renegadeFun fact : The number of countries that have been at War that have at least one McDonalds is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzero http://open.spotify.com/track/0ENkmfMS6Z8IItYtH6jEkJ (0mn:32secs)01:45
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diploMorning all08:42
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bigcalmGood morning peeps :)09:03
* bigcalm roasts AlanChicken 09:03
AlanChickengosh09:04
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AlanBellhttp://www.suasnews.com/2013/03/21782/quadrocopter-swarm-as-a-harbinger-of-paramounts-star-trek-into-darkness/ how cool is that!09:06
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daubersAlanBell: Very cool :)09:11
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SuperMatttop09:16
SuperMattoops09:16
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JamesTaitHappy Venture Into The Unknown Day, everyone! :-D09:59
MartijnVdSUh?09:59
MartijnVdSWhy didn't anyone tell me? http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01r522y/episodes/guide :)10:00
SuperMattooooohhhhh!10:01
SuperMattof course benedict would be the Angel Islington10:02
SuperMattthat's a damn good cast right there10:02
kvarleyHas anybody here purchased a Nexus device from the Google Play store? popey maybe?10:02
SuperMattI must get a copy of this as MP310:02
bigcalmSuperEngineer: get_iplayer :)10:03
jacobwI got an iPlayer, now what do I do with it? :|10:04
redtape-renegadethats pretty awesome .. did you see my post from last night ??10:04
bigcalm!get_iplayer10:04
lubotu3get_iplayer is http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer/ a small perl script which can download content from BBC iPlayer and ITV catch up services.10:04
SuperMattoooh10:04
bigcalmOh, didn't know it did ITV as well10:04
bigcalmSuperEngineer: sorry for the tab fail10:05
* SuperEngineer forgives bigcalm ;)10:11
SuperEngineer...heartily recommends get-iplayer as well!10:12
SuperMattI don't know how to get it to work :(10:16
brobostigongood morning everyone,10:17
SuperMattman page is loooooong and complicated10:17
SuperEngineerSuperMatt: "man get-iplayer10:18
SuperEngineerSuperMatt: "man get-iplayer"10:18
SuperMattit's OK10:18
SuperMattI pirate-bayed what I wanted10:18
SuperEngineere.g. get-player --type=tv  "nameofwhatyouwant"10:19
SuperEngineercool10:19
SuperEngineerbut naughty10:19
SuperMattbut I will check it out at a later date10:19
SuperMattweeeell, yes10:19
SuperMattbut I've already payed my licence fee :D10:21
SuperEngineer[though I doubt if The Big Chrysanthemum approves of get-iplayer ;)10:21
popeykvarley: yes10:24
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kvarleypopey: I was having difficulty finding my order number but it seems to be called "Transaction ID" now. Rang customer support and checked the order went through ok - should have a Nexus device to put Ubuntu on soon \0/10:35
bigcalmSuperMatt: use the web interface, it makes life a lot simpler10:39
popeykvarley: did you get through to an american?10:40
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davmor2Morning all10:47
MartijnVdS\o10:49
^aDaM-iPadlo all10:56
kvarleypopey: Yeah, called the support line which I think was an American number via Skype11:00
popeyhow was that experience?11:00
kvarleypopey: The guy was very helpful, clearly trained well to make it seem like me as the customer is in control. The line was the best I've ever had to a call centre, so crisp.11:02
kvarleypopey: Weird that I went to American call centre when the device is shipping from Dublin though.11:02
kvarleyI mean, I thought they'd have completely separate departments11:02
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czajkowskikvarley: meh you ring dell.ie and end up in india11:36
czajkowskicalll centers are not always where you think they are11:36
kvarleyczajkowski: But that's Dell for you :P11:36
kvarleyczajkowski: True, guess it's just whatever is cheapest or just whatever their legacy location is11:36
jacobwIt doesn't really matter if you get what you want11:37
popeyit does if you get stress and wasted time as a bonus to what you want11:38
czajkowskibest customer suport I've seen in a long time was Toshiba, rang explained issue and 24hrs later laptop was picked up and taken care of, updates via the website and email notifications.11:39
czajkowskiwas well impressed and that was without the extended cover11:39
rebtape|coffeeczajkowski, Whas that a netbook or what ? How much was the tosh. extra cover, just out of interest ?11:40
rebtape|coffeeoh, you said there was none.11:41
czajkowskiZ83011:42
czajkowskiNo idea said I wasnt interested in it.11:42
rebtape|coffeeok thanx.11:42
rebtape|coffee.. time for potato salad !11:43
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jacobwpopey: then you didn't get what you want, customer service that doesn't waste your time and cause you stress11:50
czajkowskidirecthex: ever heard of http://www.ginger6.com/  any good?11:54
SuperEngineerhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21938671#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa  Yikes!11:54
TheOpenSourcererHas AlanBell been around this morning?11:54
SuperEngineerTheOpenSourcerer: yes11:55
AlanBellhi TheOpenSourcerer11:56
MyrttiI don't know what part of get_iplayer I don't understand, but I sure can't download that Neil Gaiman thing however I try11:58
SuperEngineerMyrtti: using what command format?11:58
Myrttiget_iplayer --type=radio "url"11:59
MyrttiWARNING: No programmes are available for this pid12:01
SuperEngineer...hang on - tryiong another line12:02
Myrttiah right, nevermind.12:02
MyrttiI just realised my mistake12:02
SuperEngineer;)12:03
Myrttirubber ducking12:05
popey12:05
* popey wonders if wifey wore her new socks today12:05
SuperEngineerMyrtti:  let me guess - get-iplayer --type=radio "Neil Gaiman" worked12:07
popeywat http://www.thelocal.se/46946/20130326/#.UVGPUKDJqY512:07
czajkowskiwow12:13
rebtape|coffee?12:13
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davmor2popey: WTF!!!!! Has the world gone mad, is that a news article for the first and it slipped out early?12:18
* popey shrugs12:18
AlanBell"Has the world gone mad" < yes12:18
AlanBellthat really is the kind of case that courts really really don't want to come to court12:19
davmor2AlanBell: it's easily dealt with, "I hope it taught you a lesson sir, ladies don't like being molested.  Madam I award you with praise, but please no more breaking noses, kick them in the nuts and do the world a favour"12:22
AlanBellyeah, that is what should be said before it gets to court12:24
SuperEngineer...remembering to ensure the nut kicking is strictly in proportion to the bottom grabbing of course ;)12:25
rebtape|coffeeAlanBell, Did you see my entry for the Libertus News early this morning, hey ?12:26
SuperEngineer1 cheek = 1 nut12:26
AlanBellabout the drink, yeah, I will look out for it12:27
rebtape|coffeeWhat's next LIBERTUS Beer ?12:27
* rebtape|coffee notes that www.freeasinbeer.org is still available ;)12:29
* popey has tickets to the next Libertus beer :D12:29
AlanBellnom12:30
rebtape|coffeePlus doritos ?12:30
rebtape|coffeeleaves.12:31
davmor2AlanBell: But now it is a president that has been set in court.  If the court had gone as far the other way as they could these things would never come back to court. The end of the court cases12:31
rebtape|coffeeAlanBell, popey, Is there any specific ubuntu news that I can mull over on the bus, while I go to town .. that I is worthy enough to be highlighted in my usual message to the ubuntu-uk-podcast Ans.machine ?12:33
* rebtape|coffee wants juicy news stories ..12:33
popeyhttp://reddit.com/r/linux12:34
popeyhttp://reddit.com/r/ubuntu12:34
popeyhttp://phoronix.com12:35
popey(hah)12:35
popeyhttp://omgubuntu.co.uk/12:35
popeyI'd visit those12:35
rebtape|coffeeopening . .. at some length. thank-you.12:35
darrenF#webops12:40
diplo.12:44
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AlanBelldavmor2: exactly, it sets precident, and the court is bound by the law and other precidents, so they probably couldn't do what they wanted to do, and didn't want to set a precident that could be used for evil in the next case13:06
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dogmatic69Lately inkscape just crashes when it is opened.14:29
dogmatic69greys over, force quit etc.14:29
dogmatic69Any way to see why? It happens with any file, not a specific one.14:30
dogmatic69http://i.imgur.com/p2kSL3U.png14:32
diplodogmatic69: Open on the cli and see if it creates any errors? Or see if any logs are created ?14:32
diploFirst two things I try when I have issues14:33
dogmatic69diplo: ye, I was just looking for something to debug with :D14:33
dogmatic69meh, now its hung my terminal...14:34
dogmatic69$ inkscape14:34
dogmatic69^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C^C14:34
dogmatic69cant close it...14:34
dogmatic69ah, just died.14:34
rebtape|coffeedogmatic69, FILE A BUG .14:35
dogmatic69bug 78570114:35
lubotu3bug 785701 in inkscape (Ubuntu) "Inkscape freezes at opening" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78570114:35
dogmatic69:(14:35
redtape-renegade!bug14:35
lubotu3If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.14:35
ali1234that bug is caused by NFS14:37
ali1234do you use NFS?14:37
dogmatic69yep14:38
ali1234well there you go then14:44
ali1234stop using NFS, it is rubbish14:44
redtape-renegadeali1234: helpful as always :)14:45
ali1234well, it's true14:49
ali1234NFS has long been known to be inadequate for just about any use14:49
ali1234it is famous for causing programs to randomly freeze, because of the way it is designed14:49
mgdmwhat's better than it, though?14:50
mgdmsomeone tried to tell me to use SMB or SSHFS instead14:50
mgdmI laughed14:50
ali1234yes, both of those are better14:50
ali1234hell, transfering the files manually on floppy disk is better14:51
ali1234AFP is also better14:52
dogmatic69ali1234: what is the alternative?14:52
mgdmheh. the day I put either of those on a webserver that needs a shared filesystem is the day I quit and become a bus driver14:52
rebtape|coffeeali1234, : dogmatic69 , asked for your preference .. I'd like to know, Also.14:54
dogmatic69ali1234: actually it seems the problem was from connecting to a mac in nautilus ssh://<mac>14:55
dogmatic69so how ever ubuntu is doing that.14:55
dogmatic69I generally use SMB for mounting network drives14:55
dogmatic69and sshfs14:56
mgdmI do that on desktops, sure14:56
mgdmbut for more context I was told to use SSHFS on a web server to talk to where it stores its images14:56
rebtape|coffeeali1234, Your alternative, if you may ...14:57
ali1234the correct alternative depends on what you are trying to do15:03
* daubers quite likes NFS15:04
daubers'tis nice and quick for things that need the performance15:04
daubersCIFS is slow :(15:04
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mungbeanpopey: what was that tool you used to export all your tomboy notes?15:37
popeyuhm15:37
popeyhttp://www.robpvn.net/plaintext-export/15:38
mungbeanmerci15:38
mungbeananyone ever used the ssh sync in tomboy?15:58
mungbeanit's deisbaled by default15:58
* xnox is listening to the UK TOP 40..... on latvian internet european hit radio16:02
BigRedShaha16:02
BigRedSwhy?16:02
xnoxBigRedS: it's the best radio station ever: they have ads, but not "talking djs", they simply play music.16:03
xnoxand their A-/B-playlist is compiled from top 40 songs across EU, such that it's actually good non-indie music most of the time. Good background music for working and working out.16:04
xnoxSo no need to listen to Jameela Jamil =)16:05
mgdmsome parts of this office has a top 40 radio station playing constantly, it drives me to insanity16:05
^aDaMHey guys does anybody know what I select on UNetbootin programme for the OS version of Ubuntu? It has 12.10 but NetInstall, Live, HDMedia ? What one do I select?16:05
^aDaMI am currently downloading 12.10 32bit16:06
^aDaMTo be booted via USB it has been formatted and I have UNetbootin open ready and waiting...16:06
^aDaMJust need to know if I select NetInstall, Live, HDMedia/16:07
^aDaMOh im ment to select DiscImage lol16:08
^aDaMvia USB (F)16:08
popeymungbean: yes, i used it for a while, backing up to my vps16:10
mungbeanany probs?16:10
mungbeani have ssh servers on the net16:11
mungbeanto use if it works smoothly#16:11
mungbeanoh ssh sync isnt what i exoected16:17
mungbeanuses sshfs16:19
popeyyup16:26
popeythe problems I have with tomboy sync were almost all when i had tomboy open on two computers16:26
popeywhich i stopped doing16:26
* mungbean goes back to looking at rainy16:27
mungbeanjust received an email from jolicloud LOL16:35
czajkowskiI've found Nitro to be good16:35
popeyyeah, I'm loving nitro16:36
popeyonly one flaw I currently have with it16:36
popeyand it syncs to u1 ☺16:36
czajkowskiaye tis where I ahve it syncing to16:36
mungbeanwhat is it?16:36
popeya tasks app16:37
popeyso not notes, but to-do list16:37
czajkowskilove to do lists16:37
czajkowskiand you can cross them off16:37
czajkowskiand review them16:37
czajkowskivery nice16:37
mungbeanlooks nice16:37
mungbeanno notes :(16:37
popeyneed to consider where to work for the next 3 weeks. kids are off on easter holidays starting tomorrow16:39
popeywell, tomorrow is last day16:39
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diplopopey: Libertus offices ? :)16:40
bigcalmpopey: take over their bedrooms, I doubt that they will want to spend much time in there16:40
popeyboth good suggestions16:40
bigcalmHa16:41
bigcalm3 weeks? I don't think I ever got 3 weeks at Easter16:41
diploMy kids only have 2 weeks16:41
bigcalmI've just started using my Unicomp Model M keyboard after a month being stuck with a USB keyboard. The keys all feel so tall now. It's a weird feeling16:52
popey*clackity* *clack* *clack*16:53
bigcalmYep, I've missed the sweet sounds as well16:53
bigcalmI'm sure Hayley has as well. We'll find out later tonight :D16:53
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mungbeanweird, nitro is coming up as "buy" and i hhave to login to payment sevice16:58
bigcalmThat is strange17:01
mungbeaninstalling purchase17:01
bigcalmdavmor2: czajkowski: USC is broken, fix please :D17:01
czajkowskibigcalm: dont break it!17:01
popeyyeah, i had that too17:02
bigcalmHumm, looks like I'm still not used to Unity. How does one take a screen shot of a single window when alt brings up the hud?17:02
popeyalt+printscreen17:03
popeysame as always17:03
AlanBellheh17:03
AlanBell"always"17:03
bigcalmpopey: I have lovely screenshots of the Unity launcher17:03
davmor2bigcalm: how's it broken and on what version17:03
bigcalmdavmor2: 12.10, Look for Nitro in the USC. It's listed as Free but you have to click 'Buy...' and login to get it17:04
davmor2bigcalm: press and hold alt  hud only appears on tapping alt17:04
davmor2bigcalm: that's because it is a commercial app so follows the bulk of the paid system rather than apps from arb which are free or repo that are free17:05
davmor2bigcalm: it's deliberate17:05
bigcalmPressing and holding alt causes nothing to happen until I release alt and then it gives me a screen shot of the area that the HUD appeared in17:05
bigcalmdavmor2: it's confusing17:06
davmor2bigcalm: that's cause the hud was the active window17:06
popeyhang on17:06
popeyhold alt, tap printscreen, release alt17:06
popeyscreenshot appears after releasing alt17:06
popeyyes/no?17:06
bigcalmpopey: if I do that while looking at USC, I get a screenshot of the launcher17:06
bigcalmpopey: if I do that while looking at xchat, I get a screenshot of xchat17:07
davmor2bigcalm: not as confusing as if you get sent to the pay service when you expected to just have the app install :P17:07
popeyfile a bug ☺17:07
popeyubuntu-bug unity17:07
popeyactually, compiz17:07
bigcalmIsn't that what I'm doing in here? ;)17:07
popeyno, you need to angrily tweet it17:08
popeyand then not file a bug17:08
directhex GRR17:08
bigcalmAha17:08
bigcalmHehe17:08
directhexANGRYHEX17:08
czajkowskioh and blog about it17:08
popeyand ignore anyone who asks you to17:08
czajkowskidont forget about that !17:08
czajkowskior start a thread on G+17:08
czajkowskinew way of filing bugs17:08
directhexpopey, don't forget ranting on IRC about how it's a conspiracy17:08
ali1234this is why the screenshot tool has the delay option17:08
davmor2bigcalm: hangon what screen is USC on incomparison to xchat?17:08
ali1234you know, when you press print screen and you get that window that says "what do you want to do" and you click "take a screenshot after a delay"17:09
davmor2bigcalm: ie is one on the unity main screen and the other not17:09
ali1234then you open whatever window before the delay times out17:09
bigcalmdavmor2: usc is on monitor 1 (with the launcher). xchat is on monitor 3 (no launcher). If I move USC to monitor 3, I still get screenshots of the launcher17:09
bigcalmali1234: I don't have that option17:10
ali1234bigcalm: of cource you don't. it was removed, like all of the useful options17:10
bigcalmali1234: then why did you mention it?17:10
davmor2bigcalm: just open screenshot and then select screenshot of active window17:10
ali1234bigcalm: because i still have it, because i put it back in17:10
popeyuh no17:11
popeyit is there17:11
bigcalmali1234: you know you can be frustratingly unhelpful at times17:11
popeyrun gnome-screenshot17:11
davmor2ali1234: it was removed by gnome actually17:11
popeythe delay option is right there17:11
ali1234davmor2: never said it wasn't17:11
bigcalmdavmor2: okay, that's a work around. Not so good when one is used to alt+printscr17:11
davmor2bigcalm: and that should work which is why you are filing a bug correct :)17:12
AlanBellgnome-screenshot -i17:12
popeyyou dont need the -i17:13
bigcalmWhat's the bug reporting tool again?17:13
popeyjust run gnome-screenshot17:13
popeyubuntu-bug17:13
bigcalmDoesn't exist17:13
AlanBellwithout the -i it takes a screenshot for me17:13
bigcalmOh17:13
bigcalmOops17:13
bigcalmUbuntu, not Unity :)17:13
popeymaybe you have GNOME gnome-screenshot17:13
popeyAlanBell: you're starting it via alt+f2?17:14
popeythats why17:14
popeystart via unity launcher, just type screenshot or part of that word17:14
directhexwibble.17:14
bigcalmdirecthex: enjoying your new input devices?17:14
ali1234running it from gnome-terminal does the same17:14
popeyodd, it just broke for me17:15
ali1234not really all that odd, this is the designed behaviour17:15
popeyno, odd in that it didnt do that earlier17:15
directhexbigcalm, hexmas isn't until sunday!17:15
ali1234that is kind of odd17:15
bigcalmdirecthex: ah, I was confused by your photographic evidence17:16
redtape-renegadeOT Funny | Just had a daydream, that I was on Blind Date ... Cilla B.  ... AAAaaaaargh ITV-Hell !17:21
AlanBellpopey: oh, I was starting it from terminal17:22
popeyhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21938171 haha17:30
MartijnVdSpopey: he must have had a BORING job ;)17:31
popeyaccountant, so yeah17:31
rebtape|coffeeczajkowski, I can't remember when that ubuntu-on-air meeting was supposed to happen about documentation writing , so I can watch it on youtube later [?].17:48
rebtape|coffee..thnk it was with Jono...17:48
redtape-renegadeSorry, just switched to my other monitor : Anyway,,, Ive found the fridge entry for the next proposed meeting, [ http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/03/23/first-community-leadership-meeting-summary/ ] , ( c zajkowski )  but this leaves no mention of a time or event for others to go on ...18:01
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czajkowskirebtape|coffee: it;s not scheduled18:06
redtape-renegadeczajkowski: Well, perhaps it may be good to have some kind of scheduling so that I/we can let others know on all the media outlets (as this is a community effort meeting) ?18:09
redtape-renegadeperhaps I didn't phrase that correctly ..18:10
redtape-renegadeI don't mean to be pushy .18:10
* redtape-renegade wanders off ... !18:24
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amayerif i run apt-get update is there a way i can list the updates that are waiting to be installed?18:33
popeyyes18:35
popeyapt-get -s upgrade18:35
popey-s means simulate18:35
popeyor indeed apt-get -s dist-upgrade18:35
amayerpopey: thank you18:49
GentileBenczajkowski: are you Polish or a cat owner?19:35
davmor2GentileBen: czajkowski hates cats, which obviously means she isn't right in the head :)19:38
czajkowskiI'mn not Polish19:39
davmor2popey: you can confirm that czajkowski isn't right in the head for not liking cats right :)  Although AlanBell is likely to argue that czajkowski isn't all bad as she and Jon have hens now19:42
czajkowskiahem19:43
davmor2czajkowski: on a plus side somethings just don't change :)19:43
czajkowskiI do not have hens19:43
czajkowskijon has hens19:43
davmor2But then Jon has a czajkowski too which means czajkowski has hens too :P19:44
shaunoI must admit I always wondered about the name.  I mean .. czaj is tea?19:44
* AlanBell isn't arguing anything (especially not with czajkowski)19:45
AlanBellit is pronounced Tchaikovsky19:46
davmor2AlanBell: you would be arguing for czajkowski not against :)  But yeah I see your point, I'm the only one crazy enough :)19:46
AlanBellscrambled or fried or omlet?19:47
czajkowskipeople, tis not the day19:47
shaunoah, I should have seen that!  it'll make googling an etymology easier :)  I'm just curious if I'm seeing "false friends".  čaj is tea in slovak, so that's all I picked out of it19:47
AlanBellthat is the question19:47
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AlanBellscrambled19:50
AlanBellwith sriracha19:58
ali1234poached eggs is best eggs19:58
popey+119:58
czajkowskihmmmm19:58
czajkowskihow cna I get music that's on my phone to my nexus 719:59
czajkowskiam sure I'm missing some tick box here19:59
popeyupload to google music19:59
popeyor Ubuntu one music19:59
czajkowskioh19:59
czajkowskihmm19:59
popeyask aquarius how to do that20:01
popeymaybe put it in a folder, sync it with u1?20:01
popeybut i have a horrid feeling it does silly streaming and not local storage20:01
popeybut i dont use it, i use spotify so pass20:01
czajkowskiahhhh20:01
czajkowskinods20:01
czajkowskihave oodles of chunes! on zee phone and wanted to put some on the nexus20:02
czajkowskimaybe some movies that I can do easily20:02
popeyhow did they get onto the pone?20:02
AlanBellwhat is the nexus running?20:02
czajkowskioh silly me20:02
czajkowskiI can just open it and drop them in20:02
czajkowskiAlanBell: android20:02
czajkowskiwant it for hospital visit in case either of the kids want it for amusement/distraction20:03
popeySophie made tudor style bread and butter today20:03
popeywas very nice20:03
czajkowskipopey: they on easter hols yet?20:04
popeytomorrow is last day20:05
popeythen 3 weeks break20:05
czajkowskiwow 3 weeks20:08
mungbeanwhat is it with DVDs of tv series that have ridiculous menus that are impossible to understand/navigate?20:22
mungbeancan't even see which epsiode i'm choosing on this spooks dvd20:22
AlanBellhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_LXxlXSCyLY just decided I want to be Finnish20:24
DJonesInteresting review/thoughts http://slashdot.org/topic/cloud/a-glimpse-at-ubuntus-future/20:29
amayerhaha nice! my neighbors hosted a finnish exchange student. from what he told me finland sounds pretty awesome20:29
* StevenR_ finishes submitting a bug for 3.2.0-3920:40
Adriannom_what's the best cheapo wifi card to get for ubuntu?20:40
Adriannom_has anyone bought a cheapish wifi card that works out of the box in the last year?  if so, can you please tell me the model number?20:51
mungbeani saw a thread on reddit yesterday about it20:52
mungbeancan't find it now though :(20:53
Adriannom_thanks for the lead though :)_20:54
mungbeanones containing atheros chips are good20:56
mungbeanhttp://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1au0vb/was_looking_for_a_good_usb_wifi_device_for_my/20:57
mungbeanAdriannom_: ^^20:57
Adriannom_nice one20:57
Adriannom_guy from #ubuntu says manufacturers actually change the chipsets of cards without changing the model number, which means it's hard to tell even if the same card from different batches will work20:58
directhexthat can happen with networking kit, yes20:58
Adriannom_seems like model number should change or something?20:58
Adriannom_to avoid facepalm+++++20:59
mungbeani had experience of a netgear wg511v2 , one has made in japan, another made in china, both same omodel number21:00
mungbeandifferent chipset21:00
Adriannom_brb21:01
bigcalmGAH, another humble bundle21:06
bigcalmNot fair21:06
bigcalmContre Jour seems to be an arty Cut the Rope21:08
bigcalmMetal Slug 3 looks like silly fun and reminds me of arcade games of the early 90s21:11
bigcalmThe Room could be promising21:11
directhexbigcalm, it *is* an arcade game from the early 90s.21:11
directhexhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Slug_321:12
directhexhm, 2000? really?21:12
bigcalmOh, hehe :)21:12
bigcalmThe style is early 90s to my eye21:12
Adriannom_mungbean, thanks for the help, gotta go cause the puppy is chewing the ethernet cable :|21:13
directhexwell, the neo geo hardware shipped in 199021:13
Adriannom_later21:13
bigcalmNot sure Anomaly Korea, PvZ and Bladeslinger are my thing though21:14
directhexit's basically a megadrive on meth, as far as the specs go. 12mhz 68k, plus 4mhz z80 as a co-processor21:14
directhex(same cpus). but the graphical capabilities of the neo geo were insane. it could do filthy things to sprites that the megadrive (and snes) were nowhere near capable of21:15
bigcalmThere was an arcade machine in the bakers (odd) on the way to school. Spent too many pennies trying to play Street Fighter 221:15
directhexthat'd be a capcom CPS board, iirc21:16
directhexanyway, the megadrive can do 63 colours at once. the neo geo can do 65k21:16
bigcalmMadness21:16
directhexsorry, 4k from a 65k pallette21:16
ali1234well original metal slug was 90s21:16
directhexversus 63 from a 512 palette21:17
* bigcalm eyes his paypal account21:17
ali1234bigcalm: weren't you playing the room the other day?21:17
directhexi wanted a neo geo SO BAD when i was smaller21:17
bigcalmali1234: The Cave21:17
ali1234it's like a remake of myst right?21:17
ali1234oh right. but similar thing though, right?21:18
bigcalmErm21:18
ali1234by remake i mean "similar type of game"21:18
directhexthe cave and the room are basically nothing alike21:18
bigcalmBoth are puzzles but not the same style of game play at all21:18
directhexthe cave is more akin to The Lost Vikings, an early blizzard game21:18
ali1234oh, ok. the room is the one that's like myst though right?21:19
bigcalmI've only seen a very short video so far, hard to tell21:19
ali1234lost vikings was like gobliiins?21:20
ali1234the bladeslinger trailer is a bit heavy on the cutscenes...21:21
bigcalmJust a little21:21
bigcalmI kept wondering when I'd get to see game play21:22
ali1234yes.21:22
bigcalmFor a while I thought all you did was dodge items thrown at you21:22
ali1234lol21:22
ali1234and bad guys jumping off things21:22
ali1234presumably it's fruit ninja except you can walk around21:23
popeyI had a NeoGeo 6-slot arcade board21:24
popeyfun21:24
directhexy:O21:25
directhex:O21:25
directhexenvy!21:25
popeyI gave it away to London Hackspace21:25
popeyalong with 6 games21:26
directhex:o21:26
popeyhttp://londonjam2.eventbrite.com/21:26
popey"The theme of this jam will be making games for our very own Hackspace arcade machine. On a side note, if anyone wants to help renovate an arcade machine, please get in touch. It's  the shell of an original Neo-Geo machine, but we shall jam new games inside"21:26
popeyhehe21:26
popeydidnt realise it was that long ago!21:27
saraanyone used to flights to and from ue member states? is a thermos allowed on flights?21:29
saraeu*21:29
popeysara: an empty one, yeah, should be fine.21:31
popeyhahah http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1341506/The-Thermos-flask-terror-threat-U-S-warns-airlines-prepare-new-tactic-Christmas.html21:31
mungbeanhmm i need to buy a cp2102 module to openwrt my router21:33
sarapopey, can i arrive at the airport at 11pm and fly at 7am?21:33
saraheathrow terminal 521:33
saranot that i want to but i dont have other options21:34
czajkowskisara: aye the airport is always open, may not be able to check in mind you21:52
saraczajkowski, online checkin with carry on baggage21:52
czajkowskishouldnt be an issue may get you some funny looks but the airport is always open21:56
saraczajkowski, thanks.21:57
saraanyone live in london? in the 1990's they had cash ticket machines at victoria do they still have those?21:58
GentileBenczajkowski: I was implying your nick looks like something a cat typed as it walked over your keyboard.21:59
czajkowskisara: yes21:59
czajkowskiGentileBen: if you say so :)21:59
saraGentileBen, it's a eastern european name21:59
GentileBenAlso, I thought it was pronounced "zah-vov-sky".21:59
GentileBenEr22:00
saraczaj is a girls name22:00
GentileBen"zah-kov-skee"22:00
GentileBenC. Zajkowski.22:00
saraczajkow and that stations open at 9pm?22:01
czajkowskisara: yup22:02
sara:) awesome - in stckholm they dont have papertickets as of the 31st, they close everything at 10pm :)22:04
saraand the airlines not open then22:04
alachhey22:04
saraalach hej22:05
alachi need help with my ubuntu.. can you help me?22:05
alachwell, can anybody?22:07
sarasure22:07
sarawhats not working for you?22:07
mungbean!ask22:07
lubotu3Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:07
alachi'm using wine to run steam22:07
alachand want to run GTA san andreas via steam22:07
GentileBenczajkowski: are you Polski?22:08
czajkowskinope22:08
sarapopey,  get you eyes over here and help alach22:09
alachonce it starts, it changes the resolution to 800x600 (i think), but in a way that i cannot run it properly22:09
GentileBenhttp://www.pronouncenames.com/pronounce/czajkowski By gods, AlanBell was right.22:09
alachyes please :)22:09
popeyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21664522:10
popey"My solution was running winecfg and setting a virtual wine desktop and "Allow the windows manager to control the windows" on the Graphics tab. Now, it works in windowed mode, but it works"22:10
alachah, okay. i gonna try that22:11
popeynot sure I'd trust a pronunciation site which described banana as "banana is something u eat"22:11
alachthanks in advance, i hope i'll figure out what to do exactely22:11
ali1234always use wine virtual desktop22:12
saraanyone a night owl??22:12
ali1234for games anyway - windows idea of fullscreen is pretty broken22:12
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mungbeanlol they are talking bout bitcoin on newsnight23:12
ali1234what are they saying?23:14
Azelphurwe must know :P23:14
Azelphurali1234: btw, reported myself to HMRC, got the legal situation sorted, declaring a company and going self employed.23:15
mungbeannormal newsnight garbage23:15
mungbeanboring twaddle23:15
mungbeanexplainig it for the grown ups23:15
ali1234Azelphur: legal situation sorted?23:15
Azelphurali1234: as far as bitcoin trading and tax goes.23:16
ali1234i didn't know there was a legal situation23:16
Azelphurit's income tax :)23:16
ali1234so that means... what?23:16
Azelphurthat means I pay 20% on my profit minus expenses.23:16
ali1234and how did you reach this conclusion?23:16
mungbeanonly after £8k income23:16
Azelphurspoke to a tax specialist at hmrc who looked it all up and called me back.23:16
ali1234cool23:16
mungbeanunless you are earning already23:17
Azelphur:D23:17
ali1234yeah ad that 8k becomes 10k in a year or so23:17
Azelphuryea23:17
mungbeanyep23:17
AzelphurI'll tag it, but I'll probably just write cool things off as expenses23:17
mungbeanlike gfx cards23:17
Azelphurnexus 10...expense23:17
Azelphurfaster computer...expense23:17
Azelphurlol23:17
mungbeans'true23:17
Azelphurso yea, getting even more fun now ;)23:18
ali1234so what's your plan?23:18
ali1234are you going to set up an exchange?23:18
Azelphurali1234: just keep doing what I'm doing on a larger scale and with no worries23:19
ali1234i would like to see an exchange that works over ssh or similar23:20
Azelphurali1234: I'm also kinda interested in buying a place now since I have my own money, and I'm getting evicted anyway23:20
ali1234you upload public key, and then no need for passwords23:20
Azelphurhehe, I am certainly going to start doing interesting things.23:20
ali1234or it could work by email23:20
AzelphurLike bitcoin enabling some local shops.23:20
ali1234pgp encrypted email23:20
graingertBitcoin!23:20
graingertwoo23:20
Azelphur:)23:20
ali1234slashdot had poll on bitcoin today23:21
ali1234results were sad23:21
graingert:(23:21
Azelphurlol23:21
ali1234slashdot has really gone down hill23:21
ali1234it's a bunch of old guys who hate everything now23:21
graingert/join #bitcoin23:21
popeyczajkowski: http://imgur.com/gallery/zotQTXg23:21
graingert:p23:21
AzelphurI'm not sure if I can buy a place though, as I'm not gonna have a tax history or anything by the time I get evicted23:21
Azelphurmy mum wants to help, she could get the mortgage, but I dunno how that would work with transferring it to me23:21
ali1234dem hairy legs23:21
Azelphurlol23:22
ali1234Azelphur: buy house with cash23:22
Azelphurali1234: not quite there yet ;)23:22
Azelphurnot far though, rofl23:22
ali1234i still expect a correction btw23:23
Azelphura market correction? that's fine23:23
Azelphuras long as it doesn't stab me in the face after a large buy, I'm safe23:23
popeyAzelphur: eviction?23:23
Azelphurpopey: my landlord is kicking me out because I forced him to do basic maintenance on the place, I have a scumlord :P23:24
czajkowskipopey: \0/23:24
popeyoh, bummer23:24
Azelphurthinking about taking small claims action against him, got the papers for that today23:24
shaunoisn't there some kind of board that'll fight that one for you?  like the prtb here23:28
Azelphurdunno23:29
Azelphureveryone seems to be of the consensus that he won't even turn up at court23:29
ali1234well that's an automatic win23:30
Azelphurindeed, I hope for that outcome ;)23:30
shaunothat tends to be because that's the normal way for people to 'beat' companies at small claims.  but don't underestimate what spite can do23:30
ali1234yeah a big company isn't going to show because it would cost them more to send a lawyer23:31
ali1234one guy however, is a different situation23:31
Azelphurthis is a small company, owns say 10 properties23:31
Azelphurhas a few employees23:31
Azelphurpromised a bunch of repairs when I moved in, did none of them, been here 4 months now, had to start threatening court action and they've finally started to do some of the minor stuff but won't give me any compensation (6 month tenancy)23:32
ali1234i doubt he has real employees23:33
Azelphurthey seem fairly real, have uniforns, etc23:33
ali1234probably contractors23:33
ali1234if they're repairing stuff anyway23:33
ali1234maintenance on 10 properties isn't a full time job23:33
Azelphurhe sends a guy round to collect the rent for example (wants rent in cash)23:33
ali1234lol23:34
ali1234so he can pay cash to his "employees" and not book any of it23:34
AzelphurxD23:34
ali1234that guy is probably his cousin23:34
ali1234been there, done that23:34
Azelphurcould well be23:34
ali1234(as the tennant)23:34
shaunoeven more reason I wouldn't discount him being able to carve out an afternoon to safe himself a default judgement, to be honest23:34
ali1234yes, quite23:35
AzelphurThey've left me in pretty dire shit anyway, 4 months with no oven, washing machine, trash everywhere, flooding, etc.23:35
shaunoIANAL and all that rot, but I'd look into seeing if there's anything setup to offer you a hand with that one23:35
ali1234that's pretty bad23:35
ali1234i had no gas for 6 months one time but it wasn't the landlord's fault, it was the gas company23:35
Azelphurnice23:36
Azelphurhe left me for 4 days without heating, ignoring the "24 hour emergency line"23:36
ali1234it was a pre pay meter with like £100 of debt from previous tennant23:36
ali1234and gas company kept telling me "just pay it and we will refund it"23:36
ali1234which i knew was BS23:36
Azelphurlol23:36
ali1234so i went without gas, rather than pay someone else's debt23:36
ali1234so the only hot water we had was the shower23:36
Azelphurthe place has sash windows too, but the gap between the two panels is about half inch23:37
ali1234and the only way to cook stuff was to barbecue it23:37
ali1234or microwave it23:37
Azelphuryou can stick your fingers through the gap and wave to yourself through the window :D23:37
ali1234or toaster23:37
Azelphurhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/jo537hl9dvqcsg7/2013-03-11%2013.30.13.mp4?m the pathway to the flat lol23:38
Azelphurhe tells people to dump there :D23:38
ali1234haha that looks like any street in manchester lol23:38
Azelphuroops :p23:38
Azelphurali1234: haha23:39
ali1234actually that's tidy for manchester23:39
shaunoI got old and boring.  I don't move in on promises anymore23:39
shaunoit's not manchester, the matresses haven't been burnt yet :/23:39
Azelphurshauno: yea, me neither.23:39
ali1234yeah and someone would have taken that chair for their living room23:40
Azelphurhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/p6l9y5hs1d042dx/2013-03-17%2015.48.42.jpg it's even nicer out there now :P23:40
ali1234did i mention that when we had no gas, we found the barbecue in the alley behind our house?23:41
Azelphurhaha23:41
shaunoit sounds narky, but I don't do cash anymore either.  mostly because I'm bone idle.  direct debit keeps the lights on23:41
ali1234i've never done cash23:41
ali1234one time landlord asked me for posted dated cheques but i refused23:42
shaunoI have done, but it was sharing a house with 5 exchange students23:42
ali1234you know, technically, it's impossible to burn mattresses in manchester, because it rains constantly and nothing will burn.23:43
shauno(which sounds like the start of a horror story, but was probably the most fun I've had in my life)23:44
AzelphurI'd request bank if it wasn't the only way to get communication with the guy lol23:44
ali1234house sharing is both awesome fun and incredibly stressful23:45
shaunothere was nowhere near as much friction as I expected.  it mostly came down to people turning bittorrent off in the evening when people wanted to skype home23:46
shaunoand a great way to dig myself out of a hole when I finally started working.  when you can make the month's rent with 3 day's pay23:48
shaunobut again, old and boring.  not sure I could do it again now.  especially with 6am shifts23:50

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