[00:04] <Guest53617> hey guys. I have a question about using a usb flash drive and fat32 vs ntfs
[00:05] <Guest53617> I want to switch from ubuntu to mint
[00:05] <Guest53617> and keep the few files I want to take with me on a flash drive
[00:06] <Guest53617> hello?
[01:03] <rick_h_> snap-l: if you get bored can you try another fresh install please? Changed the path to be full on the download-cache and seems to work here.
[01:15] <snap-l> running now
[01:17] <snap-l> No distributions at all found for colorama (from -r requirements.txt (line 11))
[01:17] <snap-l> (fresh checkout(
[01:18] <rick_h_> ok, removed it and pushed again
[01:18] <rick_h_> a quick grep finds no hits in the code any longer
[01:22] <snap-l> kk
[01:22] <snap-l>   Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement Paste==1.7.5.1 (from -r requirements.txt (line 17))
[01:22] <snap-l> Have to pick J up. bbl.
[01:23] <rick_h_> hah, ok thanks
[01:28] <snap-l> she's not quite done yet
[01:28] <snap-l> on my phone. :)
[01:31] <snap-l> need paste set in downloadcache
[01:32] <snap-l> also py-crypt
[01:32] <snap-l> py-bcrypt, rather
[01:37] <rick_h_> snap-l: yea, just pushed up 6 missing packages into the cache
[01:37] <rick_h_> tried to do a diff from the req.txt and ls of the download-cache :)
[01:37] <rick_h_> not the best, but close enough to find some
[01:42] <snap-l> not seeing changes
[01:42] <rick_h_> snap-l: on the download-cache?
[01:43] <rick_h_> snap-l: make deps should upgrade the download-cache with the missing deps?
[01:43] <snap-l> one sec.
[01:44] <snap-l> zope
[01:45] <rick_h_> zope.configuration ?
[01:46] <rick_h_> hmm, crap
[01:52] <rick_h_> ok, well more fun trying tonight. Wheee
[02:31] <snap-l> Yeah, still getting zope.configuration==3.7.3
[02:38] <rick_h_> snap-l: even now? /me though I pushed that up.
[02:39] <rick_h_> hmm, it's a .zip. Wonder if that's an issue.
[02:40] <rick_h_> done for tonight though. Might have to be a CHC project to get a bare machine and work on it.
[02:40] <rick_h_> sucks that I don't get the same errors. I must have something setup strnage
[11:40]  * rick_h_ does the lol dance https://www.archlinux.org/news/mariadb-replaces-mysql-in-repositories/
[12:25] <derekv> money soup
[12:25] <derekv> i'm going to be getting a pair of second hand intel atom supermicro servers
[12:28] <brousch> Is that a microserver in your pocket or are you just a little happy to see me?
[12:32] <derekv> haha well the first thing is to replace a celeron 433 server thats currently running 11 virtual machines
[12:32] <derekv> but the funny thing is that the celeron 433 is overkill already
[12:33] <derekv> dual core 1.6 atom should be just as good though ^_^
[12:41] <snap-l> Will the Atom machines be able to virtualize intel instructions?
[12:42] <snap-l> or am I living way in the past.
[12:59] <rick_h_> snap-l: you're thinking ARM I think.
[12:59] <rick_h_> arm is a diff compile target
[13:14] <snap-l> ok
[13:14] <snap-l> Yeah, I'm thinking ARM
[13:17] <rick_h_> https://twitter.com/tapbot_paul/status/316367555696656384 lol for your morning
[13:18] <snap-l> Seriously?
[13:19] <snap-l> I don't understand how people can get upset over $3 for an application
[13:19] <snap-l> I've written off several apps that I've purchased.
[13:23] <brousch> geez
[13:24] <rick_h_> at least he came to his senses, though it was basically a partially veiled threat to lose your appleid account
[13:25] <rick_h_> man, so glad I fixed the space picks up a new tag and reloads on bookie
[13:27] <brousch> I am unable to parse that sentence
[13:27] <rick_h_> brousch: go to https://bmark.us and enter 'regex' into the filter and hit the space bar
[13:28] <brousch> I have no bookmarks
[13:29] <rick_h_> ok, well anyway. There was a bug where using enter would show you the tag, but not reload the bookmarks
[13:29] <rick_h_> sorry, not enter, but space
[13:29] <brousch> ah
[13:29] <rick_h_> fixed it this weekend and used it and now happy again
[13:29] <brousch> works well now
[14:48] <dzho> oh, bookie.  thanks for the mention, rick_h_
[15:02] <brousch> TIL Java 8 exists and can be installed via PPA https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[15:36] <greg-g> who is that webupd8team?
[15:36] <snap-l> "Frustrated with a bug that never got fixed? Have a great idea for improving the Java SE platform? See how to contribute for information on making contributions to the platform.
[15:37] <jrwren_> I've been bit twice now by a stale pyc file being there when a py file was deleted.
[15:37] <jrwren_> How do you deal with this?
[15:38] <jrwren_> make clean:\n\tfind . -name '*.pyc' -exec rm {}+    <- ? is one way, any suggestions for less heavy handed solutions?
[15:39] <rick_h_> rm **/*.pyc
[15:39] <rick_h_> <3 zsh
[15:46] <snap-l> find . -name "*.pyc" -delete
[16:22] <snap-l> I <3 these rewards programs:
[16:22] <snap-l> "Craig, Reward Yourself with 50,000 Bonus Points"
[16:23] <snap-l> I already did, and I made myself a little pirate hat to go with it.
[16:36] <jrwren_> -delete ? really?
[16:52] <snap-l> yup
[17:08] <brousch> jrwren: You could write a daemon that constantly scans your project to find and remove orphaned .pyc files
[17:10] <jrwren> ugh
[17:10] <brousch> Do it well and praise may be heaped upon you ;)
[17:12] <snap-l> Seriously? :)
[17:13] <snap-l> Who writes filesystem scanning daemons anymore?
[17:13] <brousch> I'm thinking along the line of Sass
[17:13] <snap-l> What you really need is a fuse filesystem with inotify hooks
[17:13] <snap-l> where .pyc files will disappear automatically if no python process is in the process table
[17:13] <snap-l> or they could be given a TTL
[17:14]  * snap-l runs off to patent this brilliant idea.
[17:16] <brousch> How do you run PEP8 checkers and such? Could you hook a script in the same way?
[17:16] <rick_h_> sure, on vim au flags and such
[17:16] <snap-l> I don't see why not, but that might require a separate filesystem. ;)
[17:16] <rick_h_> or you can just tell it to not create pyc files
[17:17] <snap-l> rick_h_: Shush
[17:17] <snap-l> rick_h_: My retirement is now in the balance.
[17:17] <rick_h_> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/154443/how-to-avoid-pyc-files
[17:17] <snap-l> DON'T CLICK ON THAT LINK!
[17:17] <snap-l> LALALALALALALALA
[17:17] <snap-l> PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN PASTING STACKOVERFLOW LINKS
[17:17] <snap-l> Oh, wait, fuse is hard to implement
[17:18] <snap-l> Well, there goes that idea. :)
[17:18] <rick_h_> hah
[17:18] <snap-l> THANKS ALOT OBAMA
[17:23] <jrwren> rofl, snap-l how much sugar did U have at lunch?
[17:23] <rick_h_> yea, I think someone got his coffee late today
[17:33] <snap-l> har har
[17:47] <jrwren> i seriously hate python.
[17:48] <rick_h_> lol
[17:48] <jrwren> or more accurately. I hate that I still have to target 2.6
[17:48] <jrwren> because really, I love the idea of python. The technical debt here is killing me.
[17:48] <greg-g> you hate all languages, but then you love all languages, I don't get you
[17:48] <greg-g> :P
[17:48] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, I'm getting ancy to get onto 3.3
[17:49] <rick_h_> jrwren: but even then there's still much tech debt in it
[17:49] <jrwren> same.
[17:49] <jrwren> or rather, 3.4 this fall.
[17:49] <jrwren> 3.4 is going to RAWK!
[17:49] <jrwren> greg-g: that is my thing. I love/hate each and every programming language.
[17:50] <greg-g> :)
[18:09] <snap-l> I think that's true of any tech
[18:09] <snap-l> You haven't really used it until you find that seedy underbelly of "ick" that you don't like about it
[18:09] <greg-g> no tech is free of ick, except LISP
[18:10] <snap-l> LISP is ick turned inside out
[18:10] <greg-g> right, no ick
[18:11] <snap-l> It's like Zen. All you see are people sitting in meditation
[18:11] <snap-l> but internally there's something magical and awesome happening during meditation
[18:42] <brousch> Django is ickless
[18:44] <rick_h_> yep, just pure disease ridden :P
[18:46] <jrwren> lol @ django ickless.
[18:46] <jrwren> django is nearly all ick.
[19:40] <brousch> It is weird to see my name on Python Planet http://planet.python.org/
[19:42] <rick_h_> woot!
[19:47] <snap-l> brousch: Python ODBC, eh? :)
[19:47] <brousch> pypyodbc
[19:47] <brousch> All I did was suggest it
[19:47] <brousch> Works very well for pulling from Access97 and FoxPro so far
[20:29] <jjesse> brousch, does that mean you are famous?
[20:29] <brousch> ha
[20:29] <brousch> Not even Internt famous
[23:04] <derekv> lisp - it doesn't have a lot of parathesis, they just took everything else out. ;)