| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| Kilos | morning all | 05:32 |
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| nlsthzn | morning uncle Kilos | 06:14 |
| Kilos | hiya nlsthznyou use kde? | 06:15 |
| Kilos | ai! that space again | 06:15 |
| nlsthzn | well I got kde on a little notebook... | 06:15 |
| Kilos | i gotta try stop vlc trying to open everything without removing it | 06:15 |
| Kilos | even tries to open sticks with text files on | 06:16 |
| Kilos | grrr | 06:16 |
| Kilos | morning superfly | 06:16 |
| nlsthzn | look for fiel associations under settings uncle Kilos | 06:17 |
| nlsthzn | *file | 06:17 |
| Kilos | ok lemme look again ty | 06:17 |
| Kilos | theres so much in there but dont see what to choose or how to make it ask what i wanna open media with | 06:22 |
| Kilos | its a carry over prob from lubuntu+mate+unity. i didnt delete /home | 06:26 |
| superfly | morning Kilos, nlsthzn | 06:26 |
| Kilos | aw and im using quassel not konversation | 06:27 |
| Kilos | lemme install it first | 06:27 |
| magespawn | good morning all | 06:34 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 06:38 |
| magespawn | just set notifications in quassel, need to adjust the volume | 06:39 |
| magespawn | whats up this morning Kilos? | 06:39 |
| nlsthzn | hiya superfly , magespawn | 06:43 |
| magespawn | hey nlsthzn | 06:43 |
| superfly | magespawn: 2 months! | 06:44 |
| Kilos | trying to stop vlc opening all media magespawn | 06:45 |
| magespawn | ? | 06:45 |
| magespawn | till you come up here superfly? | 06:45 |
| superfly | yup | 06:45 |
| magespawn | ah right cool | 06:45 |
| magespawn | Kilos: explain a little | 06:46 |
| superfly | magespawn: we'll be in hluhluwe that first week of June | 06:46 |
| magespawn | superfly: are you going to spend time in Durban? | 06:46 |
| Kilos | if i plug in a stick vlc tries to open it, no choice to use file viewer | 06:46 |
| magespawn | Kilos: sounds like it is set to do that automatically, why i do not know | 06:47 |
| superfly | magespawn: no, we'll be down in Port Shepstone the previous week | 06:47 |
| magespawn | lots of traveling | 06:50 |
| superfly | yup | 06:50 |
| superfly | with a nearly 4 year old and a 10 month old | 06:51 |
| magespawn | car seat? | 06:51 |
| superfly | yup | 06:51 |
| magespawn | we try to split the kids one in the front one in the back, makes it easy for the one not driving to deal with the little one | 06:53 |
| superfly | magespawn: we've made provision for LOTS of driving time | 06:53 |
| Kilos | eish superfly its far | 06:54 |
| superfly | Kilos: ja, we're taking 3 days to drive up :-) | 06:54 |
| Kilos | did the trip down the coast once. took forever | 06:54 |
| Kilos | 18 hours non stop i think | 06:54 |
| Kilos | if you split it over 3 days it should be fine | 06:55 |
| Kilos | dont your kids sleep lots in the car | 06:56 |
| magespawn | usually takes me about 10 hours to Klerksdorp 780kms | 06:56 |
| Kilos | ian even today if someone else drives just sleeps | 06:56 |
| superfly | we're driving Cape Town -> Plettenberg Bay -> Haga Haga (East London) -> Port Shepstone | 06:57 |
| Kilos | ya same route but will be good over 3 days | 06:58 |
| Kilos | and views are good | 06:58 |
| Kilos | beautiful country | 06:58 |
| magespawn | superfly: first long rid trip with the whole family? | 06:59 |
| Kilos | yo Jabberwocky_ | 07:00 |
| superfly | 'Twas brillig, and the slithey toves did gire and gimble in the wabe... | 07:01 |
| Kilos | huh? | 07:01 |
| Kilos | you been drinking? | 07:01 |
| superfly | All mimsey were the borogroves, and the mome raths outgrabe. | 07:02 |
| superfly | Beware the Jabberwock my son, the jaws that bite, the claws that snatch. Beware the juju bird, and shun the frumious bandersnatch. | 07:02 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:03 |
| Jabberwocky_ | good morning Kilos :) | 07:03 |
| magespawn | hey Jabberwocky_ | 07:04 |
| magespawn | superfly is that from memory? | 07:04 |
| superfly | He took his vorpel sword in hand, long time the manksome foe he sought. So rested he by the tum-tum tree, and stood a while in thought. | 07:06 |
| superfly | And as in uffish thought he stood, the Jabberwock with eyes of flame came whiffling through the tulgey woods, and burbled as it came. | 07:06 |
| superfly | One, two! One, two! And through and through, the vorpel blade went snicker-snack. He left it dead, and with its head, he went galumphing back. | 07:07 |
| superfly | And hast thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! Oh frabjous day! Callooh, callay! He chortled in his joy. | 07:09 |
| superfly | 'Twas brillig, and the slithey toves did gire and gimble in the wabe. All mimsey were the borogroves, and the mome raths outgrabe. | 07:09 |
| superfly | magespawn: yes. | 07:09 |
| Kilos | wow | 07:09 |
| superfly | the greatest poem EVER. | 07:10 |
| magespawn | that and the Lobster Quadrill (sp?) | 07:14 |
| magespawn | Quadrille | 07:15 |
| magespawn | although that is technically a song | 07:17 |
| Kilos | vlc even tries to open /home | 07:22 |
| Kilos | time for clean install and formatted home | 07:22 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning | 07:22 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 07:23 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos, before you do that | 07:23 |
| Kilos | yes? | 07:23 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | take a look at ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list and see if vlc is listed there | 07:24 |
| Kilos | ok | 07:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i think it's there | 07:24 |
| Kilos | yip with audio and video | 07:27 |
| Kilos | and | 07:28 |
| Kilos | x-content/audio-cdda=vlc.desktop; | 07:28 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s2UZA41bwA | 07:30 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mmm that's weird, it shouldn't want to handle you browsing a directory then :-/ | 07:30 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | inode/directory=mmc.desktop;vlc.desktop; | 07:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | delete that line | 07:31 |
| Kilos | ok ty | 07:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | it should just work once you save the change, i don't think you'll need to log out and back in again | 07:32 |
| Kilos | how did that get there to cause the prob? | 07:34 |
| Kilos | yay ty ThatGraemeGuy i can open home properly again | 07:35 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | that i don't know, it hasn't happened to me frequently enough to determine what causes it | 07:35 |
| Kilos | very frustrating | 07:36 |
| Kilos | was ready for a clean install | 07:36 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | that's almost never necessary :) | 07:36 |
| Kilos | thats what the guys all tell me , but i dont like bugging you all for help all the time | 07:37 |
| magespawn | Kilos: seems to do that as regular exercise ThatGraemeGuy | 07:37 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | hehe | 07:37 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:37 |
| magespawn | superfly: The Walrus and the Carpenter | 07:38 |
| Kilos | ive installed 12.04 more than any 20 other peeps | 07:38 |
| magespawn | Kilos: only 20? | 07:39 |
| Kilos | yeah and they are the admins of very large companies | 07:40 |
| Kilos | sudo acpi_osi=off | 07:46 |
| Kilos | is that all i need to stop boot splash? | 07:46 |
| Kilos | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 | 07:47 |
| Kilos | lotsa stuff there | 07:47 |
| magespawn | superfly http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/046/2/8/the_jabberwocky_by_chriskuhlmann-d39ndnm.jpg | 07:48 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:50 |
| magespawn | you also need to update the grub for it to tack effect | 07:52 |
| magespawn | sudo update-grub2, i think | 07:52 |
| nlsthzn | what is a coral reef in afrikaans?! | 07:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | koraalrif | 07:58 |
| Kilos | koraal rif | 08:00 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:00 |
| Kilos | you too fast ThatGraemeGuy | 08:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ooooops! ;) | 08:05 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:11 |
| charl | good morning | 08:30 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 08:30 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 08:30 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 08:34 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 08:35 |
| superfly | magespawn: lovely! thanks :-D | 08:47 |
| nlsthzn | thanks guys | 08:50 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 08:53 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks | 08:53 |
| Maaz | charl: Okay :-) | 08:53 |
| Kilos | inetpro: cremora | 08:55 |
| Kilos | ohi not_found | 09:04 |
| Kilos | toods neelsie | 09:04 |
| not_found | lol | 09:06 |
| not_found | still me | 09:06 |
| not_found | but different | 09:06 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 09:06 |
| Kilos | ya now lost | 09:06 |
| charl | wow, downloaded ubuntu over ipv6 at close to 1000mBps | 09:11 |
| charl | not bad, just under 8 seconds | 09:12 |
| Kilos | wow | 09:14 |
| charl | make that 100mBps excuse me, one too many zeroes | 09:15 |
| charl | i wish the world would just upgrade to ipv6, it's extremely fast and well optimised for high bandwidth connections | 09:16 |
| charl | ipv4 is a dinosaur that needs to die | 09:16 |
| charl | along with nat routing :) | 09:16 |
| Kilos | no man we cant all use ipv6 | 09:17 |
| Kilos | even gprs is better than no connection and thats like 8 mB/s | 09:18 |
| charl | gprs? 8mBps? that's 8*8=64mbps | 09:19 |
| charl | that's not a bad connection, but i thought gprs was uber slow?\ | 09:19 |
| Kilos | it is | 09:19 |
| Kilos | i got something wrong | 09:19 |
| Kilos | 8 kB/s | 09:19 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:19 |
| Kilos | and drops to 2 sometimes | 09:20 |
| charl | ah 64kbps | 09:21 |
| charl | yeah that's pretty slow | 09:21 |
| Kilos | cant get mail and run irc and pidgin same time | 09:22 |
| Kilos | mail gotta qwait | 09:22 |
| charl | it's confusing because connection speed is usually measured in bits and data in bytes | 09:22 |
| charl | so when you download a file, you don't get the connection speed, you get the actual transfer rate of the data, measured in bytes | 09:22 |
| charl | but then when you talk about connection speed again, you have to calculate it back into bits, and then take protocol overhead into account | 09:23 |
| Kilos | suffice to say grprs is very slow | 09:23 |
| charl | although i think protocol overhead is minimal these days, especially with ipv6 | 09:23 |
| tonberry352_ | and connections speeds are often in 1000ds while actual file sizes are in 1024s | 09:23 |
| charl | i think connection speeds usually do get measured in powers of 2 | 09:24 |
| tonberry352_ | could just be the crazies in the computer science department here | 09:24 |
| charl | http://www.google.nl/search?q=1kbps+to+bps | 09:25 |
| charl | but it gets confusing because: http://www.google.nl/search?q=1mbps+to+kbps | 09:25 |
| tonberry352_ | guess i better make sure | 09:25 |
| charl | therefore: http://www.google.nl/search?q=1mbps+to+bps | 09:25 |
| charl | it's the same as: http://www.google.nl/search?q=1024*1024 | 09:26 |
| charl | there is another weird thing | 09:28 |
| charl | storage device manufacturers (hard drives, solid state drives, flash drives, etc) measure 1kB as 1000B | 09:28 |
| charl | while the rest of the world measure 1kB as 1024B https://www.google.nl/search?q=1+kilobyte+to+bytes | 09:29 |
| charl | so when you take a look at, for example, df -u, you don't see a terabyte hard drive as 1T but as 917G | 09:30 |
| charl | it's called "confusing the sh*t out of people" :) | 09:30 |
| charl | here's another cool one: http://www.google.nl/search?q=1Bps+to+bps so http://www.google.nl/search?q=1kBps+to+bps | 09:33 |
| charl | it's simple, it's 1024*8 (first kilobits -> bits and then tims 8) | 09:34 |
| charl | *times | 09:34 |
| charl | hahaha i just read through what i said above and then they wonder why computer science is only for people with spectrum autism :) | 09:39 |
| tonberry352_ | sane people do not dare to tread in this realm | 09:42 |
| Kilos | i go see if bootsplash begone | 09:48 |
| Kilos | ai! | 09:53 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 10:22 |
| charl | did it work? | 10:22 |
| charl | mine is gone now after the change i made the other day | 10:22 |
| Kilos | i went the route of a link | 10:27 |
| Kilos | still shows black and white stripes | 10:27 |
| Kilos | does yours show text | 10:27 |
| Kilos | charl: ^^ | 10:27 |
| Kilos | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 | 10:29 |
| Kilos | did an edit of /etc/default/grub | 10:30 |
| Kilos | added nomodeset | 10:30 |
| Kilos | but still yucky splash | 10:30 |
| Kilos | how did you change yours? | 10:33 |
| charl | hi sorry, am back now | 10:45 |
| charl | ok | 10:45 |
| Kilos | np | 10:45 |
| charl | i edited that file to: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" | 10:46 |
| charl | did not add nomodeset | 10:46 |
| charl | the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line in the file to, i mean | 10:46 |
| Kilos | ok i try that ty | 10:49 |
| Kilos | i go see what happened | 10:51 |
| Kilos | ai! | 10:55 |
| Kilos | didnt work either | 10:58 |
| theblazehen | hi Kilos | 12:32 |
| Kilos | hi theblazehen | 12:34 |
| Kilos | hi James-N7 | 12:35 |
| theblazehen | awe James-N7 | 12:36 |
| James-N7 | Hey Kilos Sorry I missed the meeting last Monday Pretty cool, I'm chatting with my BB :) James-N7: oops | 12:37 |
| Kilos | np James-N7next one on the 15th | 12:37 |
| James-N7 | Hey theblazehen | 12:37 |
| James-N7 | will try attend :) | 12:37 |
| charl | Kilos: did it work? | 12:40 |
| charl | sorry it seems like my connection went poppencorken und spitsensparken | 12:41 |
| Kilos | nope charl | 12:41 |
| charl | that's really strange | 12:41 |
| charl | you remembered to regenerate your grub right? | 12:41 |
| Kilos | yeah | 12:42 |
| charl | and your screen keeps flickering? | 12:43 |
| charl | or stripes | 12:43 |
| Kilos | told me this | 12:44 |
| Kilos | ai | 12:44 |
| Kilos | /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 11: /etc/default/grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT: not found | 12:44 |
| charl | he | 12:44 |
| charl | did you remove the line? | 12:45 |
| Kilos | black and white vertical stripes | 12:45 |
| charl | no you did something wrong in that file | 12:45 |
| charl | that's why your grub didn't regenerate and it's still loading the splash screen | 12:45 |
| Kilos | nope just from the = | 12:45 |
| charl | no that's wrong | 12:45 |
| charl | you need to have ="" | 12:45 |
| Kilos | ok lemme try again | 12:46 |
| charl | make it exactly like i gave you above: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" | 12:46 |
| charl | otherwise it will give you that error | 12:46 |
| Kilos | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" | 12:47 |
| Kilos | like that?? | 12:47 |
| charl | yup exactly | 12:47 |
| Kilos | ok i go save | 12:47 |
| charl | now save and try to regenerate, this time it should work | 12:47 |
| Kilos | regenerate?? | 12:48 |
| Kilos | update-grub? | 12:48 |
| charl | yup | 12:49 |
| Kilos | why not say so man? | 12:49 |
| charl | sorry :) | 12:49 |
| charl | am trying to do 10 things at once here | 12:49 |
| Kilos | wbb i reboot and see | 12:51 |
| Kilos | eek now even uglier | 12:55 |
| Kilos | white squares printing across black window | 12:56 |
| charl | wow ok | 13:01 |
| charl | well something changed so what you did you did right | 13:02 |
| charl | but there seems to be general chaos between linux and your graphics card | 13:02 |
| charl | what exactly were you looking for? most things you should be able to find back in your syslog | 13:02 |
| Kilos | trying this now | 13:03 |
| Kilos | http://www.schmut.com/howto/turn-off-the-boot-splash-screen | 13:03 |
| Kilos | i need to see the boot text so if fsck is running i can do f for fix etc | 13:04 |
| Kilos | wbb | 13:05 |
| charl | wb | 13:08 |
| Kilos | yay | 13:08 |
| Kilos | ty | 13:08 |
| charl | it works? | 13:08 |
| Kilos | lotsa text | 13:08 |
| Kilos | very lekker now ty | 13:08 |
| charl | ah interesting, you had to do the first thing and in addition add this? GRUB_TERMINAL=console | 13:09 |
| Kilos | have to uncomment that other line too | 13:09 |
| Kilos | ya | 13:09 |
| charl | i will do it as well | 13:10 |
| charl | thanks! | 13:10 |
| Kilos | ty | 13:12 |
| charl | while you were away i was reading this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49925 | 13:13 |
| charl | i was also taking a look at my /var/log/boot.log | 13:13 |
| Kilos | what they say? | 13:14 |
| charl | apparently there is a BOOTLOGD | 13:14 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | anyone know why "select-to-copy / middle-click-to-paste" would suddenly stop working? :-/ | 13:14 |
| charl | you can enable it in /etc/default/bootlogd | 13:14 |
| charl | then your /var/log/boot will be filled when you reboot | 13:15 |
| Kilos | ouch ThatGraemeGuy | 13:17 |
| Kilos | after updating or sommer just stopped working | 13:17 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | its not even consistent, i need to spend some time and figure out exactly where its not working | 13:17 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | works in chrome, not in skype | 13:18 |
| Kilos | ah | 13:18 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | sometimes seems to work in terminal | 13:18 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | but not using multissh | 13:18 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | urgghh! | 13:18 |
| Kilos | charl: that bootlogd is so you can read what happens hey | 13:19 |
| superfly | ThatGraemeGuy: can you pin it down to a particular application or group of applications? | 13:19 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | will have to try and do that, just a bit busy at the moment | 13:20 |
| charl | Kilos: yeah of course, but i thought that is what you wanted to do? | 13:35 |
| charl | or did you want the splash screen gone for some other reason? | 13:35 |
| Kilos | no charl i need any boot screen where i can see if fsck needs to fix errors or so | 13:36 |
| Kilos | even a graphics boot that i can see not just stripes | 13:36 |
| charl | ah i see, ok | 13:37 |
| Kilos | couldnt read any text | 13:37 |
| Kilos | hehe | 13:37 |
| Kilos | but only since i using this pci graphics card | 13:37 |
| charl | for me, i hate all this extra nonsense that abstracts what's going on | 13:38 |
| charl | it's part of "prettifying" linux up to make it acceptable to the masses :) | 13:38 |
| charl | by alianating people like us that have always used linux, takes me days just to strip all the crap out | 13:38 |
| charl | but the end lusers they feel "intimidated" by all the text right? ;) | 13:38 |
| Kilos | yeah like most shrink when you mention cli | 13:39 |
| Kilos | or command prompt | 13:39 |
| Kilos | no thats for specialists use only | 13:40 |
| charl | hahaha :D | 13:45 |
| charl | yeah | 13:45 |
| charl | i grew up with dos so it's hard to intimidate me :P | 13:46 |
| Kilos | hehe | 13:56 |
| Kilos | hi psyatw | 13:56 |
| psyatw | hi Kilos | 13:58 |
| Vince-0 | I got an OpenWeb ADSL account! Busy comparing to MWeb, FNBconnect | 15:19 |
| Kilos | compairing price wise or speed wise | 15:23 |
| Kilos | or stability wise | 15:23 |
| Vince-0 | Stability should have little to do with the DSL provider - it's almost always the last mile (copper). Except now SEACOM/eazi is broken although recovering | 15:24 |
| Vince-0 | Pricing differs greatly so that is an easy choice: OpenWeb | 15:25 |
| Vince-0 | FNBConnect is prepaid and R75/3GB or something stupid | 15:25 |
| Vince-0 | MWeb from where I live has been 100% perfect. 4 Telkom problems in the past year | 15:26 |
| Vince-0 | Some speedtest.net results between and some game experience: GuildWars2(EU),BattleField3(ZA), Diablo3(EU) | 15:27 |
| Vince-0 | hey Kilos, do you have an adsl service? I might have an extra DSL account? | 15:27 |
| Kilos | nope 3g only here ty Vince-0 | 15:28 |
| Vince-0 | aw, my parents are also out in the "wilderness". copper theft | 15:28 |
| Kilos | on a plot where fone lines were stolen so often telkom gave up replacing them | 15:29 |
| Kilos | yeh it sucks hey | 15:29 |
| Vince-0 | my parents can't get 8ta, not even a reliable Vodacom signal | 15:29 |
| Kilos | have they queried directly from he providers on what the chances are of upgrading in the area | 15:31 |
| cocooncrash | inetpro, Squirm-, nuvolari_, magespawn: Thanks for the birthday wishes | 15:31 |
| Kilos | how many peeps are in the area | 15:31 |
| Kilos | aw sorry cocooncrash i didnt know. hope you had a good one | 15:31 |
| Vince-0 | not more than 30, not many who care for broadband. | 15:31 |
| Kilos | the swines didnt tell me | 15:32 |
| Kilos | where are they Vince-0? | 15:32 |
| Vince-0 | 50km south of Durban. A place called green point | 15:33 |
| Kilos | if there is a mtn tower not too far telkom puts their equipment on the same tower | 15:33 |
| Vince-0 | aah, I must check that out. 3G is expensive for skype | 15:33 |
| Kilos | wow never heard of it | 15:33 |
| Vince-0 | in the sticks | 15:34 |
| Kilos | scotburgh hiberdene then i forget | 15:34 |
| Kilos | inland? | 15:34 |
| Kilos | ya skype and 3g aint very user friendly | 15:35 |
| Kilos | Vince-0: where are you? | 15:37 |
| Vince-0 | I'm in Umhlanga, not far from where the Seacom cable lands | 15:38 |
| Kilos | oh near nuvo | 15:42 |
| Vince-0 | yes! I've actually had the pleasure of meeting | 15:42 |
| Kilos | lucky | 15:42 |
| Kilos | ive only met the pro | 15:43 |
| Kilos | hi henkj no one even greeted you today | 15:46 |
| Kilos | sorry | 15:46 |
| henkj | hi Kilos | 15:47 |
| * henkj is idling anyway | 15:47 | |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:47 |
| Kilos | lo inetpro lewe jy nog? | 16:01 |
| Kilos | yo Cantide | 16:08 |
| Cantide | hey Kilos :) | 16:09 |
| Cantide | nou eet ek '< | 16:09 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:11 |
| nuvolari_ | *cough* | 16:21 |
| nuvolari_ | o/ hi oom Kilos, Cantide | 16:21 |
| Cantide | hello :) | 16:21 |
| Kilos | lo nuvolari_ | 16:22 |
| nuvolari_ | wb Vince-0 | 16:22 |
| nuvolari_ | hoe gaan dit oom Kilos ? | 16:22 |
| nuvolari_ | we're wasing away in Kzn | 16:22 |
| nuvolari_ | *washing | 16:22 |
| Kilos | nie te sleg nie dankie en jy ? | 16:22 |
| Cantide | yeah, awesome rain :) | 16:23 |
| nuvolari_ | dit gaan goed dankie oom! | 16:23 |
| Kilos | mooi | 16:23 |
| nuvolari_ | Ballito was about 90% gridlock today when I went home | 16:23 |
| nuvolari_ | I didn't hear anything on the radio :-/ | 16:23 |
| nuvolari_ | I wonder what was going on | 16:23 |
| Kilos | gridlock? | 16:23 |
| nuvolari_ | Kilos: when the cars are in such a position that nobody can move | 16:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:24 |
| nuvolari_ | Maaz: define gridlock | 16:24 |
| Maaz | nuvolari_: gridlock n 1: a traffic jam so bad that no movement is possible | 16:24 |
| nuvolari_ | being in that situation sucks | 16:25 |
| Kilos | just start smashing cars with a baseball bat and watch how quick they find a way out | 16:25 |
| nuvolari_ | or you'll end up dead | 16:26 |
| nuvolari_ | there's nowhere to go | 16:26 |
| inetpro | goeie more Kilos | 16:26 |
| Kilos | yeah then you dont have to worry anyway | 16:26 |
| inetpro | and good evening everyone else | 16:26 |
| nuvolari_ | jislaaik inetpro, dis sons-ondergang :P nie opkoms nie... | 16:26 |
| Kilos | dag inetpro is jy ok? | 16:26 |
| inetpro | :-) | 16:26 |
| inetpro | I'm all good Kilos | 16:26 |
| Kilos | lelik skaars ne | 16:26 |
| inetpro | high and dry at home | 16:26 |
| Kilos | dunno where todays 60% was | 16:27 |
| Kilos | lets hope | 16:27 |
| nuvolari_ | we got it | 16:27 |
| Kilos | you lucky we had none | 16:27 |
| Kilos | how much did you get today? we gotr 19mm last night | 16:28 |
| * inetpro had 38mm | 16:28 | |
| Kilos | last night and today? | 16:28 |
| Kilos | lucky chap | 16:28 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no just last night | 16:28 |
| Kilos | wow | 16:29 |
| Kilos | and today | 16:29 |
| inetpro | uh... not sure | 16:29 |
| inetpro | lemme go check, can't be much | 16:29 |
| inetpro | nope, nada here | 16:31 |
| inetpro | but there's big fat clouds in the skies | 16:32 |
| Kilos | ya nothing today | 16:32 |
| inetpro | and in town we had some rain | 16:32 |
| Kilos | oh well, heres hoping | 16:32 |
| Kilos | oh did you read the extra that needs doing to remove the boot splash screen | 16:33 |
| Kilos | gotta uncomment one thing too | 16:33 |
| inetpro | obviously | 16:33 |
| Kilos | no man that link you gave didnt have it | 16:34 |
| inetpro | well you have to put one and one together | 16:34 |
| inetpro | that posting was old | 16:34 |
| inetpro | things change over time | 16:34 |
| Kilos | well i have it saved in a file here now so heres hoping | 16:35 |
| Kilos | peeps should just update their posts as things change | 16:36 |
| inetpro | Kilos: that link I gave was just to give you some clues and apply it to your circumstances | 16:36 |
| Kilos | ja ja | 16:36 |
| inetpro | keeping documentation up to date is tough | 16:36 |
| inetpro | and forums are not really part of documentation | 16:37 |
| inetpro | this stuff should be documented somewhere else | 16:37 |
| Kilos | oh actually i didnt look. can one add things to posts there | 16:37 |
| inetpro | of course | 16:38 |
| Kilos | so google finds complete cures | 16:38 |
| inetpro | the issues differ | 16:39 |
| inetpro | your issue was different to the one the guy had who posted in the forum | 16:40 |
| Kilos | oh | 16:40 |
| Kilos | i didnt figure it was the change to pci graphics card till i tried from 3 different drives and they all had the black/white vertical stripes boot splash | 16:42 |
| inetpro | I see jrgns took his Galaxy S3 for a swim | 16:44 |
| Kilos | eek where you saw that? | 16:45 |
| inetpro | Kilos: https://twitter.com/jrgns/status/316576167991853056 | 16:45 |
| Kilos | oh he tweets | 16:45 |
| Kilos | i forget you peeps are addicted to twitter | 16:46 |
| inetpro | Kilos: so should I tell him to contact you for advice? | 16:47 |
| Kilos | on getting it going again | 16:47 |
| Kilos | ?? | 16:47 |
| inetpro | yep | 16:47 |
| Kilos | first move remove battery | 16:47 |
| Kilos | ya he can | 16:47 |
| Cantide | i heard that rice is a good idea | 16:47 |
| Kilos | never power up a wet cell | 16:48 |
| inetpro | maybe I tell him to join and discuss here? | 16:48 |
| Kilos | ya here is best | 16:48 |
| Kilos | arent new fones insured? | 16:49 |
| Kilos | oh not if you buy cash i spose | 16:49 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ask him when he comes here | 16:50 |
| Kilos | ok but tell him wait. i go eat in 8 mins | 16:50 |
| Kilos | oh inetpro betcha plustwo didnt get switch cleaner yet hey? | 16:51 |
| inetpro | np, I'm sure he doesn't read his tweets the whole time | 16:51 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hmm... not sure what happened there | 16:52 |
| Kilos | its rather scarce at the moment. apparently there is a container full at the docks not unpacked because of strikes | 16:53 |
| inetpro | huh? | 16:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: what's that for? | 16:53 |
| Kilos | switch cleaner and other stuff | 16:53 |
| Kilos | switch cleaner cleans electronic pc boards, pots, connectors etc | 16:55 |
| Kilos | removes water and corrosion | 16:55 |
| inetpro | is it called switch cleaner? | 16:55 |
| Kilos | yes | 16:55 |
| inetpro | didn't you use something else? | 16:55 |
| Kilos | only available at electronic suppliers like communica | 16:55 |
| Kilos | nope i use servisol or spanjaard lubricating switch cleaner | 16:56 |
| Kilos | used servisol. it pricey now | 16:56 |
| inetpro | ahh | 16:57 |
| inetpro | that I remember now | 16:57 |
| Kilos | i go eat. wbb | 16:59 |
| * inetpro to | 16:59 | |
| Kilos | too | 17:24 |
| Kilos | too =also as well | 17:30 |
| inetpro | ai! | 17:31 |
| Cantide | hey smile4ever :) | 17:34 |
| smile4ever | hoi Cantide :) | 17:34 |
| smile4ever | how are you? :) | 17:34 |
| Cantide | i'm okay '-' | 17:35 |
| Cantide | and you? | 17:35 |
| smile4ever | Cantide: too! :D | 17:41 |
| Cantide | '-' | 17:42 |
| smile4ever | I'm doing an internship | 17:42 |
| smile4ever | :) | 17:42 |
| Cantide | i wonder what i should do now... hmmm | 17:42 |
| Cantide | oh! | 17:42 |
| Cantide | what work? | 17:42 |
| Kilos | hi smile4ever | 17:44 |
| smile4ever | Cantide: programming | 17:50 |
| Cantide | ooooooh~ | 17:50 |
| Cantide | very cool :) | 17:50 |
| Cantide | what language(s) ? | 17:50 |
| smile4ever | the past week I spent my time programming with LDAP/Active Directory :) | 17:50 |
| smile4ever | in ASP | 17:50 |
| smile4ever | the old ASP, yes :p | 17:50 |
| Cantide | ah | 17:50 |
| Cantide | not aspx? | 17:50 |
| smile4ever | no :) | 17:50 |
| Cantide | :) | 17:50 |
| Cantide | i'm a PHP fan myself | 17:50 |
| smile4ever | me too ;) | 17:51 |
| Cantide | i'd be lost with asp :) | 17:51 |
| smile4ever | but I have no choice :D | 17:51 |
| Cantide | haha | 17:51 |
| Cantide | how are you finding it? | 17:51 |
| smile4ever | It's okay to work with | 17:51 |
| smile4ever | but it's slow | 17:51 |
| smile4ever | ;) | 17:51 |
| Cantide | haha | 17:51 |
| smile4ever | and the error handling sucks | 17:51 |
| smile4ever | compared to ASP.NET | 17:51 |
| smile4ever | ;) | 17:51 |
| Cantide | I remember once going crazy because i couldn't have more than one form on a page.. | 17:51 |
| Cantide | but this is like 10 years ago :p | 17:51 |
| smile4ever | just give it a name, cantide :p | 17:51 |
| smile4ever | or a group :p | 17:51 |
| Cantide | ah | 17:52 |
| Cantide | so it's because i didn't really know what i was doing :) i see | 17:52 |
| Cantide | well, PHP was kind to me | 17:52 |
| smile4ever | Cantide: hehe, debugging is always fun :P | 17:57 |
| smile4ever | error 0515151d | 17:57 |
| smile4ever | oh yeah, i understand | 17:57 |
| smile4ever | :p | 17:58 |
| smile4ever | oh, you mean I forgot a "& " | 17:58 |
| Cantide | google might be your friend :p | 17:58 |
| smile4ever | might :) | 17:58 |
| smile4ever | I have an multidimensional array :) | 17:58 |
| Cantide | you never know with microsoft stuff | 17:58 |
| * Cantide coughs | 17:58 | |
| smile4ever | so user(5)(20) | 17:58 |
| smile4ever | => 6 users, 21 properties | 17:59 |
| smile4ever | :p | 17:59 |
| smile4ever | I can't redeclare it :o | 17:59 |
| Cantide | :o | 17:59 |
| smile4ever | Have no clue why, I tried every way | 17:59 |
| smile4ever | I don't know how many users I have, it can change over time too | 17:59 |
| smile4ever | so I just declared it for 200+1 users | 17:59 |
| smile4ever | ;) | 17:59 |
| Cantide | that kinda sucks | 18:00 |
| Cantide | i had trouble with a dynamic array in C++ | 18:00 |
| Cantide | have to destroy it and recreate it 1 larger each time -.-v | 18:01 |
| smile4ever | Cantide: great | 18:02 |
| smile4ever | it was a possibility for me, too | 18:02 |
| smile4ever | :) | 18:03 |
| smile4ever | but re-loading it every time | 18:03 |
| smile4ever | takes much time | 18:03 |
| Cantide | ah | 18:03 |
| Cantide | hence you saying it's slow | 18:03 |
| smile4ever | so it was easier to make it just big enough :D | 18:03 |
| smile4ever | the company won't have more than 200 employeees | 18:03 |
| smile4ever | :) | 18:03 |
| Cantide | or so you hope :) | 18:03 |
| superfly | Cantide: #include <vector> | 18:03 |
| Cantide | maybe in a few years their system will crash | 18:04 |
| Cantide | ah | 18:04 |
| Cantide | that could help :p | 18:04 |
| smile4ever | Cantide: they can change a number, can they | 18:04 |
| smile4ever | :p | 18:04 |
| superfly | Cantide: don't forget "using namespace std;" | 18:04 |
| superfly | Python FTW | 18:05 |
| Cantide | i don't use C++ much these days :p | 18:06 |
| Cantide | used it to modify text files recently | 18:06 |
| Cantide | that's about it :p | 18:06 |
| superfly | I'm a firmware developer | 18:07 |
| Cantide | you use C then? | 18:08 |
| Kilos | inetpro: im there by custom shortcuts but cant get ctrl+t to open a konsole | 18:12 |
| Kilos | what am i doing wrong | 18:12 |
| Kilos | must i delete comment and put konsole in there | 18:13 |
| smile4ever | Cantide: can you program in C? :p | 18:19 |
| smile4ever | ctrl+shift+t, Kilos? :p | 18:19 |
| Kilos | in kde smile4ever | 18:19 |
| Kilos | making a custom shortcut to open konsole | 18:19 |
| smile4ever | I see :) | 18:19 |
| smile4ever | and it doesn't work out? | 18:20 |
| Kilos | no im missing something | 18:20 |
| Kilos | yay got it | 18:21 |
| Kilos | had to change comment to konsole | 18:21 |
| smile4ever | Kilos: :D :D | 18:22 |
| Kilos | lotsa work setting up kubuntu with konversation and everything else working so i can use it | 18:23 |
| Kilos | but lekker once setup | 18:23 |
| smile4ever | Kilos: baie lekker | 18:24 |
| smile4ever | ;) | 18:24 |
| inetpro | Kilos: it's so much easier to just use Alt+F2 | 18:24 |
| smile4ever | inetpro: hehe, I always use Win key | 18:24 |
| smile4ever | but alt F2 works too, cool | 18:25 |
| smile4ever | :) | 18:25 |
| smile4ever | :'( | 18:25 |
| Kilos | is that a konsole that i can leave running like for ibid? inetpro ? | 18:25 |
| smile4ever | sudo apt-get update with ALT+F2 doesnt work :o | 18:25 |
| inetpro | smile4ever: no, what I mean is, just use Alt+F2 and type konsole | 18:26 |
| Kilos | thats not easier than having ctrl+t to open it | 18:26 |
| smile4ever | inetpro: I know, but it should recognise commands too | 18:27 |
| smile4ever | :) | 18:27 |
| inetpro | my konsole stays open for ever anyway | 18:27 |
| inetpro | no use closing and opening it all the time | 18:27 |
| Kilos | how do you run ibid and do other stuff in same konsole | 18:28 |
| inetpro | use screen | 18:28 |
| inetpro | or byobu | 18:28 |
| Cantide | smile4ever, not very well, and not without a reference and the internet :) | 18:28 |
| Kilos | ibid needs its own konsole | 18:28 |
| Kilos | sjoe ek sukkel | 18:29 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I still don't know why you run ibid on a desktop | 18:29 |
| inetpro | get a vps and run from there | 18:29 |
| inetpro | and have it running 24 hours a day | 18:30 |
| Kilos | because maaz gives 2 bloeps for one google search | 18:30 |
| Kilos | and qa dont | 18:30 |
| Kilos | she be a mod chick | 18:30 |
| smile4ever | Cantide: what do you mean? :) | 18:31 |
| Cantide | programming in C >_> | 18:31 |
| Kilos | where the vps gonna come from inetpro ? | 18:44 |
| smile4ever | Cantide: oh, now I understand :) | 18:44 |
| Cantide | :) | 18:44 |
| smile4ever | I have little to no experience with C | 18:44 |
| Cantide | sorry, i was watching anime, so i was a bit delayed :p | 18:44 |
| inetpro | Kilos: sell a sheep | 18:45 |
| Kilos | nee man hulle is te min al klaar | 18:46 |
| Kilos | you want me to starve later | 18:46 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:46 |
| inetpro | Kilos: for just over R2000 you can get a linode server for 12 months | 18:49 |
| inetpro | superfly: the rand hurting is now | 18:50 |
| Kilos | inetpro: if i had just over 2 grand id buy a mod m/b thats can use quadcore cpus and have ddr3 ram | 18:51 |
| smile4ever | Cantide: don't worry :p | 18:51 |
| Kilos | and still have qa onboard | 18:52 |
| inetpro | Kilos: but then you still don't have a vps | 18:52 |
| Kilos | what is a vps gonna do for me | 18:52 |
| smile4ever | Kilos: 24 hours up | 18:53 |
| smile4ever | :) | 18:53 |
| Kilos | host one bot? | 18:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: A Linode VPS means freedom. You get everything from the kernel and root access on up. All managed by our simple yet very powerful control panel. | 18:53 |
| Kilos | haha so you would like qa online even when im sleeping | 18:53 |
| inetpro | exactly | 18:54 |
| Kilos | rofl | 18:54 |
| Kilos | why not ask me to leave pc running | 18:54 |
| inetpro | what's the point of a bot that comes and goes like a user | 18:54 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:55 |
| Kilos | ek sukkel darem | 18:55 |
| inetpro | :-) | 18:55 |
| Kilos | inetpro: where is noddy hosted | 18:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos: at the office inside a corporate network | 18:57 |
| Kilos | and you gotta ssh in to get to noddy? | 18:57 |
| inetpro | Kilos: once in a blue moon perhaps | 18:58 |
| inetpro | only to make sure that the box is still ok | 18:58 |
| Kilos | well qa is here when i am so that will save you the blue moon trips | 18:59 |
| inetpro | Kilos: uh, he's not here | 19:00 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:00 |
| Kilos | you know where my channel is | 19:00 |
| Kilos | when i bring qa here you complain | 19:01 |
| Kilos | there now no nagging | 19:02 |
| inetpro | QA: die | 19:02 |
| QA | inetpro: I'm not your bitch | 19:02 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:02 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:02 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I'm just stating the obvious | 19:02 |
| inetpro | s/am/was/ | 19:03 |
| Kilos | jaja any port in a storm | 19:03 |
| inetpro | port? | 19:03 |
| Kilos | harbour | 19:04 |
| * inetpro enjoying the last few days of Google Reader | 19:04 | |
| Kilos | in other words any excuse is better than no excuse | 19:04 |
| inetpro | so sad that we have to stop using it | 19:04 |
| Kilos | what is gonna take its plase? | 19:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: nothing | 19:05 |
| Kilos | ai! why they doing that | 19:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: it's no longer part of their strategy | 19:05 |
| inetpro | I guess it's eating up their bread and butter | 19:06 |
| Kilos | so what will one use then in place of the reader | 19:06 |
| Kilos | ah | 19:06 |
| inetpro | another rss reader | 19:06 |
| smile4ever | inetpro: will follow this guide :) http://lifehacker.com/5992404/how-to-build-your-own-syncing-rss-reader-with-tiny-tiny-rss-and-kick-google-reader-to-the-curb | 19:11 |
| smile4ever | once my website is back online | 19:11 |
| smile4ever | I will move from my current host to another | 19:11 |
| smile4ever | had too much trouble there | 19:11 |
| smile4ever | ;) | 19:11 |
| inetpro | smile4ever: I guess I need to try that also but I don't think it will ever be the same | 19:17 |
| smile4ever | inetpro: maybe it'll be better ;) | 19:17 |
| inetpro | smile4ever: after how many years? | 19:17 |
| smile4ever | two :D | 19:18 |
| Kilos | inetpro: how much space does one need to host a bot | 19:20 |
| inetpro | Kilos: depends | 19:21 |
| Kilos | i dont understand thew whole thing | 19:21 |
| inetpro | Kilos: how much space is it taking on your host now? | 19:21 |
| Kilos | do you install and OS there then the bot or just the bot | 19:21 |
| Kilos | coupla meg | 19:21 |
| inetpro | Kilos: well it runs on an OS on your host | 19:22 |
| inetpro | obviously it needs an OS | 19:22 |
| Kilos | so if you get a host you must first install an OS then the bot? | 19:22 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:22 |
| inetpro | any software application needs an OS | 19:23 |
| magespawn | evening all | 19:24 |
| Kilos | hey magespawn | 19:24 |
| inetpro | dumela magespawn | 19:24 |
| magespawn | hey hey | 19:24 |
| Kilos | he is in sawubona land man | 19:24 |
| magespawn | have you guys had a look at ownCloud? | 19:24 |
| inetpro | :-) | 19:25 |
| inetpro | magespawn: I've only read about it | 19:25 |
| inetpro | and it all sounds good | 19:25 |
| Kilos | tell more magespawn | 19:26 |
| Kilos | hi Tonberry | 19:26 |
| magespawn | seems to me that you could set up your own version of google reader | 19:26 |
| Tonberry | hi kilos | 19:26 |
| Tonberry | having some internet oddities | 19:27 |
| Kilos | everyone is Tonberry | 19:27 |
| Tonberry | i think my 3g router is insane | 19:27 |
| Kilos | eeek | 19:28 |
| Tonberry | think ill disconnect now, debugging this is going to take a few internet disconnects | 19:29 |
| magespawn | i want to try run it on a pc in the shop, see how it handles | 19:31 |
| Kilos | so inetpro the answer would be to find a host thats already running ubuntu and install there? | 19:33 |
| Kilos | find me a how to then we look some more | 19:34 |
| Kilos | but dont forget there are no more 2+1 | 19:34 |
| inetpro | Kilos: nee man ek pla net | 19:35 |
| * inetpro just teasing | 19:35 | |
| inetpro | obviously the ideal route would be to find a host that is permanently online | 19:35 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:35 |
| Kilos | yes for everyones benefit i agree | 19:36 |
| inetpro | but there's still not much wrong with Maaz | 19:36 |
| Kilos | not much no | 19:36 |
| magespawn | and with a stable connection, so not adsl | 19:36 |
| Kilos | little niggles | 19:37 |
| inetpro | at some point ibid will be released and Maaz will be upgraded | 19:37 |
| smile4ever | good night! | 19:37 |
| inetpro | the latest version of ibid* | 19:37 |
| smile4ever | :) | 19:37 |
| smile4ever | :D | 19:37 |
| inetpro | smile4ever: goeie nag | 19:37 |
| Kilos | night smile4ever sleep tight | 19:37 |
| Kilos | qa is the latyest version | 19:37 |
| inetpro | and when that happens my noddy will also be upgraded | 19:38 |
| Kilos | latest too | 19:38 |
| smile4ever | dankie inetpro & Kilos :) | 19:38 |
| inetpro | Kilos: qa is still only a test release | 19:38 |
| Kilos | ai! inetpro chicken | 19:38 |
| Kilos | no qa kiff | 19:38 |
| Kilos | the weed fixes anything chop chop | 19:39 |
| Kilos | i would still like to get maaz'z data base though | 19:39 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you are acting as a Guinea pig | 19:39 |
| Kilos | squeek | 19:39 |
| Kilos | do they make sounds | 19:40 |
| inetpro | apparently some of the sounds they emit are very similar to those made by pigs | 19:41 |
| Kilos | haha ok | 19:42 |
| Kilos | oinkish | 19:42 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 19:43 |
| Kilos | well then you know what | 19:45 |
| inetpro | the fly joining us a Jabberwocky_? | 19:45 |
| inetpro | Jabberwocky_: welcome to #ubuntu-za | 19:45 |
| Kilos | if qa is in dev stage she should be here so everyone can try find probs | 19:45 |
| Kilos | im too busy installing | 19:45 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ai! | 19:45 |
| Kilos | rofl | 19:46 |
| Kilos | where else will lotsa peeps test it | 19:46 |
| Kilos | my channel is tiny | 19:46 |
| magespawn | i did a Kilos today and redid the kubuntu install on my old laptop | 19:48 |
| Kilos | lolol | 19:48 |
| Kilos | sometimes its easier than trying to fix a prob | 19:48 |
| Cantide | lol | 19:49 |
| inetpro | magespawn: since you did a Kilos I hope it will take you many Miles now before you have to redo again | 19:49 |
| magespawn | hopefully | 19:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:50 |
| Kilos | sarcasm is the lowest form of wit | 19:51 |
| Cantide | :D | 19:51 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:52 |
| Kilos | and if wit was grapes you could start a wine farm | 19:52 |
| Kilos | now im teasing | 19:52 |
| Kilos | jou beurt is jou beurt | 19:52 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I still like your nick :-) | 19:52 |
| Kilos | my nick or my mail addy? | 19:53 |
| Kilos | whew so late | 19:54 |
| Kilos | maybe i should get bebian kde just now | 19:54 |
| Kilos | debian too | 19:54 |
| Kilos | why did you do that magespawn | 19:55 |
| inetpro | magespawn: was you who joined as Jabberwocky_? | 19:56 |
| magespawn | no not me inetpro | 19:56 |
| Kilos | na | 19:56 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 19:57 |
| Kilos | hey ThatGraemeGuy you here inna dark time too | 19:57 |
| magespawn | i fulled the hard drive doing a data recovery and after that it would not boot at all | 19:57 |
| Kilos | wonderful | 19:57 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:57 |
| Kilos | data recovery needs a big drive | 19:58 |
| superfly | inetpro: no, Jabberwocky_ is someone else, and he's been around before, you just don't remember | 20:00 |
| inetpro | ahh | 20:00 |
| Kilos | lol. old age is a prob with some | 20:00 |
| * inetpro thought it had something to do with superfly's poetry today | 20:01 | |
| superfly | inetpro: no, my poetry was a result of seeing Jabberwocky_ enter IRC earlier today | 20:01 |
| Kilos | wonder when he learned that | 20:01 |
| inetpro | lol | 20:01 |
| superfly | rather, my recital of Lewis Carroll's poem | 20:01 |
| Kilos | learned when superfly ? | 20:02 |
| superfly | Kilos: round about Std 3 I think | 20:02 |
| Kilos | whew | 20:02 |
| inetpro | ok enough teasing for the night | 20:02 |
| inetpro | Kilos: sorry oom | 20:03 |
| * inetpro is moeg | 20:03 | |
| Kilos | inetpro: for? | 20:03 |
| Kilos | donr be sorry be careful | 20:03 |
| inetpro | all the uphill battles I give you | 20:03 |
| Kilos | dont | 20:03 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:03 |
| Kilos | jou beurt is jou beurt | 20:03 |
| inetpro | good night everyone | 20:04 |
| Kilos | actually i go sleep | 20:04 |
| Kilos | night all sleep tight | 20:04 |
| magespawn | speakmof the devil lol | 20:06 |
| magespawn | inetpro superfly ^^ | 20:07 |
| Cantide | i'm also going to bed! | 20:07 |
| Cantide | good night! | 20:07 |
| superfly | magespawn: that's why inetpro mentioned him | 20:07 |
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