=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [05:32] morning all [06:14] morning uncle Kilos [06:15] hiya nlsthznyou use kde? [06:15] ai! that space again [06:15] well I got kde on a little notebook... [06:15] i gotta try stop vlc trying to open everything without removing it [06:16] even tries to open sticks with text files on [06:16] grrr [06:16] morning superfly [06:17] look for fiel associations under settings uncle Kilos [06:17] *file [06:17] ok lemme look again ty [06:22] theres so much in there but dont see what to choose or how to make it ask what i wanna open media with [06:26] its a carry over prob from lubuntu+mate+unity. i didnt delete /home [06:26] morning Kilos, nlsthzn [06:27] aw and im using quassel not konversation [06:27] lemme install it first [06:34] good morning all [06:38] hi magespawn [06:39] just set notifications in quassel, need to adjust the volume [06:39] whats up this morning Kilos? [06:43] hiya superfly , magespawn [06:43] hey nlsthzn [06:44] magespawn: 2 months! [06:45] trying to stop vlc opening all media magespawn [06:45] ? [06:45] till you come up here superfly? [06:45] yup [06:45] ah right cool [06:46] Kilos: explain a little [06:46] magespawn: we'll be in hluhluwe that first week of June [06:46] superfly: are you going to spend time in Durban? [06:46] if i plug in a stick vlc tries to open it, no choice to use file viewer [06:47] Kilos: sounds like it is set to do that automatically, why i do not know [06:47] magespawn: no, we'll be down in Port Shepstone the previous week [06:50] lots of traveling [06:50] yup [06:51] with a nearly 4 year old and a 10 month old [06:51] car seat? [06:51] yup [06:53] we try to split the kids one in the front one in the back, makes it easy for the one not driving to deal with the little one [06:53] magespawn: we've made provision for LOTS of driving time [06:54] eish superfly its far [06:54] Kilos: ja, we're taking 3 days to drive up :-) [06:54] did the trip down the coast once. took forever [06:54] 18 hours non stop i think [06:55] if you split it over 3 days it should be fine [06:56] dont your kids sleep lots in the car [06:56] usually takes me about 10 hours to Klerksdorp 780kms [06:56] ian even today if someone else drives just sleeps [06:57] we're driving Cape Town -> Plettenberg Bay -> Haga Haga (East London) -> Port Shepstone [06:58] ya same route but will be good over 3 days [06:58] and views are good [06:58] beautiful country [06:59] superfly: first long rid trip with the whole family? [07:00] yo Jabberwocky_ [07:01] 'Twas brillig, and the slithey toves did gire and gimble in the wabe... [07:01] huh? [07:01] you been drinking? [07:02] All mimsey were the borogroves, and the mome raths outgrabe. [07:02] Beware the Jabberwock my son, the jaws that bite, the claws that snatch. Beware the juju bird, and shun the frumious bandersnatch. [07:03] hehe [07:03] good morning Kilos :) [07:04] hey Jabberwocky_ [07:04] superfly is that from memory? [07:06] He took his vorpel sword in hand, long time the manksome foe he sought. So rested he by the tum-tum tree, and stood a while in thought. [07:06] And as in uffish thought he stood, the Jabberwock with eyes of flame came whiffling through the tulgey woods, and burbled as it came. [07:07] One, two! One, two! And through and through, the vorpel blade went snicker-snack. He left it dead, and with its head, he went galumphing back. [07:09] And hast thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! Oh frabjous day! Callooh, callay! He chortled in his joy. [07:09] 'Twas brillig, and the slithey toves did gire and gimble in the wabe. All mimsey were the borogroves, and the mome raths outgrabe. [07:09] magespawn: yes. [07:09] wow [07:10] the greatest poem EVER. [07:14] that and the Lobster Quadrill (sp?) [07:15] Quadrille [07:17] although that is technically a song [07:22] vlc even tries to open /home [07:22] time for clean install and formatted home [07:22] morning [07:23] hi ThatGraemeGuy [07:23] Kilos, before you do that [07:23] yes? [07:24] take a look at ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list and see if vlc is listed there [07:24] ok [07:24] i think it's there [07:27] yip with audio and video [07:28] and [07:28] x-content/audio-cdda=vlc.desktop; [07:30] http://slexy.org/view/s2UZA41bwA [07:30] mmm that's weird, it shouldn't want to handle you browsing a directory then :-/ [07:31] inode/directory=mmc.desktop;vlc.desktop; [07:31] delete that line [07:31] ok ty [07:32] it should just work once you save the change, i don't think you'll need to log out and back in again [07:34] how did that get there to cause the prob? [07:35] yay ty ThatGraemeGuy i can open home properly again [07:35] that i don't know, it hasn't happened to me frequently enough to determine what causes it [07:36] very frustrating [07:36] was ready for a clean install [07:36] that's almost never necessary :) [07:37] thats what the guys all tell me , but i dont like bugging you all for help all the time [07:37] Kilos: seems to do that as regular exercise ThatGraemeGuy [07:37] hehe [07:37] hehe [07:38] superfly: The Walrus and the Carpenter [07:38] ive installed 12.04 more than any 20 other peeps [07:39] Kilos: only 20? [07:40] yeah and they are the admins of very large companies [07:46] sudo acpi_osi=off [07:46] is that all i need to stop boot splash? [07:47] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 [07:47] lotsa stuff there [07:48] superfly http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/046/2/8/the_jabberwocky_by_chriskuhlmann-d39ndnm.jpg [07:50] ai! [07:52] you also need to update the grub for it to tack effect [07:52] sudo update-grub2, i think [07:56] what is a coral reef in afrikaans?! [07:58] koraalrif [08:00] koraal rif [08:00] hehe [08:01] you too fast ThatGraemeGuy [08:05] ooooops! ;) [08:11] hehe [08:30] good morning [08:30] Maaz: coffee on [08:30] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [08:34] Coffee's ready for charl! [08:35] hi charl [08:47] magespawn: lovely! thanks :-D [08:50] thanks guys [08:53] hi Kilos [08:53] Maaz: thanks [08:53] charl: Okay :-) [08:55] inetpro: cremora [09:04] ohi not_found [09:04] toods neelsie [09:06] lol [09:06] still me [09:06] but different [09:06] hi Squirm [09:06] ya now lost [09:11] wow, downloaded ubuntu over ipv6 at close to 1000mBps [09:12] not bad, just under 8 seconds [09:14] wow [09:15] make that 100mBps excuse me, one too many zeroes [09:16] i wish the world would just upgrade to ipv6, it's extremely fast and well optimised for high bandwidth connections [09:16] ipv4 is a dinosaur that needs to die [09:16] along with nat routing :) [09:17] no man we cant all use ipv6 [09:18] even gprs is better than no connection and thats like 8 mB/s [09:19] gprs? 8mBps? that's 8*8=64mbps [09:19] that's not a bad connection, but i thought gprs was uber slow?\ [09:19] it is [09:19] i got something wrong [09:19] 8 kB/s [09:19] hehe [09:20] and drops to 2 sometimes [09:21] ah 64kbps [09:21] yeah that's pretty slow [09:22] cant get mail and run irc and pidgin same time [09:22] mail gotta qwait [09:22] it's confusing because connection speed is usually measured in bits and data in bytes [09:22] so when you download a file, you don't get the connection speed, you get the actual transfer rate of the data, measured in bytes [09:23] but then when you talk about connection speed again, you have to calculate it back into bits, and then take protocol overhead into account [09:23] suffice to say grprs is very slow [09:23] although i think protocol overhead is minimal these days, especially with ipv6 [09:23] and connections speeds are often in 1000ds while actual file sizes are in 1024s [09:24] i think connection speeds usually do get measured in powers of 2 [09:24] could just be the crazies in the computer science department here [09:25] http://www.google.nl/search?q=1kbps+to+bps [09:25] but it gets confusing because: http://www.google.nl/search?q=1mbps+to+kbps [09:25] guess i better make sure [09:25] therefore: http://www.google.nl/search?q=1mbps+to+bps [09:26] it's the same as: http://www.google.nl/search?q=1024*1024 [09:28] there is another weird thing [09:28] storage device manufacturers (hard drives, solid state drives, flash drives, etc) measure 1kB as 1000B [09:29] while the rest of the world measure 1kB as 1024B https://www.google.nl/search?q=1+kilobyte+to+bytes [09:30] so when you take a look at, for example, df -u, you don't see a terabyte hard drive as 1T but as 917G [09:30] it's called "confusing the sh*t out of people" :) [09:33] here's another cool one: http://www.google.nl/search?q=1Bps+to+bps so http://www.google.nl/search?q=1kBps+to+bps [09:34] it's simple, it's 1024*8 (first kilobits -> bits and then tims 8) [09:34] *times [09:39] hahaha i just read through what i said above and then they wonder why computer science is only for people with spectrum autism :) [09:42] sane people do not dare to tread in this realm [09:48] i go see if bootsplash begone [09:53] ai! [10:22] hi Kilos [10:22] did it work? [10:22] mine is gone now after the change i made the other day [10:27] i went the route of a link [10:27] still shows black and white stripes [10:27] does yours show text [10:27] charl: ^^ [10:29] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 [10:30] did an edit of /etc/default/grub [10:30] added nomodeset [10:30] but still yucky splash [10:33] how did you change yours? [10:45] hi sorry, am back now [10:45] ok [10:45] np [10:46] i edited that file to: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" [10:46] did not add nomodeset [10:46] the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line in the file to, i mean [10:49] ok i try that ty [10:51] i go see what happened [10:55] ai! [10:58] didnt work either [12:32] hi Kilos [12:34] hi theblazehen [12:35] hi James-N7 [12:36] awe James-N7 [12:37] Hey Kilos Sorry I missed the meeting last Monday Pretty cool, I'm chatting with my BB :) James-N7: oops [12:37] np James-N7next one on the 15th [12:37] Hey theblazehen [12:37] will try attend :) [12:40] Kilos: did it work? [12:41] sorry it seems like my connection went poppencorken und spitsensparken [12:41] nope charl [12:41] that's really strange [12:41] you remembered to regenerate your grub right? [12:42] yeah [12:43] and your screen keeps flickering? [12:43] or stripes [12:44] told me this [12:44] ai [12:44] /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 11: /etc/default/grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT: not found [12:44] he [12:45] did you remove the line? [12:45] black and white vertical stripes [12:45] no you did something wrong in that file [12:45] that's why your grub didn't regenerate and it's still loading the splash screen [12:45] nope just from the = [12:45] no that's wrong [12:45] you need to have ="" [12:46] ok lemme try again [12:46] make it exactly like i gave you above: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" [12:46] otherwise it will give you that error [12:47] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" [12:47] like that?? [12:47] yup exactly [12:47] ok i go save [12:47] now save and try to regenerate, this time it should work [12:48] regenerate?? [12:48] update-grub? [12:49] yup [12:49] why not say so man? [12:49] sorry :) [12:49] am trying to do 10 things at once here [12:51] wbb i reboot and see [12:55] eek now even uglier [12:56] white squares printing across black window [13:01] wow ok [13:02] well something changed so what you did you did right [13:02] but there seems to be general chaos between linux and your graphics card [13:02] what exactly were you looking for? most things you should be able to find back in your syslog [13:03] trying this now [13:03] http://www.schmut.com/howto/turn-off-the-boot-splash-screen [13:04] i need to see the boot text so if fsck is running i can do f for fix etc [13:05] wbb [13:08] wb [13:08] yay [13:08] ty [13:08] it works? [13:08] lotsa text [13:08] very lekker now ty [13:09] ah interesting, you had to do the first thing and in addition add this? GRUB_TERMINAL=console [13:09] have to uncomment that other line too [13:09] ya [13:10] i will do it as well [13:10] thanks! [13:12] ty [13:13] while you were away i was reading this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49925 [13:13] i was also taking a look at my /var/log/boot.log [13:14] what they say? [13:14] apparently there is a BOOTLOGD [13:14] anyone know why "select-to-copy / middle-click-to-paste" would suddenly stop working? :-/ [13:14] you can enable it in /etc/default/bootlogd [13:15] then your /var/log/boot will be filled when you reboot [13:17] ouch ThatGraemeGuy [13:17] after updating or sommer just stopped working [13:17] its not even consistent, i need to spend some time and figure out exactly where its not working [13:18] works in chrome, not in skype [13:18] ah [13:18] sometimes seems to work in terminal [13:18] but not using multissh [13:18] urgghh! [13:19] charl: that bootlogd is so you can read what happens hey [13:19] ThatGraemeGuy: can you pin it down to a particular application or group of applications? [13:20] will have to try and do that, just a bit busy at the moment [13:35] Kilos: yeah of course, but i thought that is what you wanted to do? [13:35] or did you want the splash screen gone for some other reason? [13:36] no charl i need any boot screen where i can see if fsck needs to fix errors or so [13:36] even a graphics boot that i can see not just stripes [13:37] ah i see, ok [13:37] couldnt read any text [13:37] hehe [13:37] but only since i using this pci graphics card [13:38] for me, i hate all this extra nonsense that abstracts what's going on [13:38] it's part of "prettifying" linux up to make it acceptable to the masses :) [13:38] by alianating people like us that have always used linux, takes me days just to strip all the crap out [13:38] but the end lusers they feel "intimidated" by all the text right? ;) [13:39] yeah like most shrink when you mention cli [13:39] or command prompt [13:40] no thats for specialists use only [13:45] hahaha :D [13:45] yeah [13:46] i grew up with dos so it's hard to intimidate me :P [13:56] hehe [13:56] hi psyatw [13:58] hi Kilos [15:19] I got an OpenWeb ADSL account! Busy comparing to MWeb, FNBconnect [15:23] compairing price wise or speed wise [15:23] or stability wise [15:24] Stability should have little to do with the DSL provider - it's almost always the last mile (copper). Except now SEACOM/eazi is broken although recovering [15:25] Pricing differs greatly so that is an easy choice: OpenWeb [15:25] FNBConnect is prepaid and R75/3GB or something stupid [15:26] MWeb from where I live has been 100% perfect. 4 Telkom problems in the past year [15:27] Some speedtest.net results between and some game experience: GuildWars2(EU),BattleField3(ZA), Diablo3(EU) [15:27] hey Kilos, do you have an adsl service? I might have an extra DSL account? [15:28] nope 3g only here ty Vince-0 [15:28] aw, my parents are also out in the "wilderness". copper theft [15:29] on a plot where fone lines were stolen so often telkom gave up replacing them [15:29] yeh it sucks hey [15:29] my parents can't get 8ta, not even a reliable Vodacom signal [15:31] have they queried directly from he providers on what the chances are of upgrading in the area [15:31] inetpro, Squirm-, nuvolari_, magespawn: Thanks for the birthday wishes [15:31] how many peeps are in the area [15:31] aw sorry cocooncrash i didnt know. hope you had a good one [15:31] not more than 30, not many who care for broadband. [15:32] the swines didnt tell me [15:32] where are they Vince-0? [15:33] 50km south of Durban. A place called green point [15:33] if there is a mtn tower not too far telkom puts their equipment on the same tower [15:33] aah, I must check that out. 3G is expensive for skype [15:33] wow never heard of it [15:34] in the sticks [15:34] scotburgh hiberdene then i forget [15:34] inland? [15:35] ya skype and 3g aint very user friendly [15:37] Vince-0: where are you? [15:38] I'm in Umhlanga, not far from where the Seacom cable lands [15:42] oh near nuvo [15:42] yes! I've actually had the pleasure of meeting [15:42] lucky [15:43] ive only met the pro [15:46] hi henkj no one even greeted you today [15:46] sorry [15:47] hi Kilos [15:47] * henkj is idling anyway [15:47] hehe [16:01] lo inetpro lewe jy nog? [16:08] yo Cantide [16:09] hey Kilos :) [16:09] nou eet ek '< [16:11] hehe [16:21] *cough* [16:21] o/ hi oom Kilos, Cantide [16:21] hello :) [16:22] lo nuvolari_ [16:22] wb Vince-0 [16:22] hoe gaan dit oom Kilos ? [16:22] we're wasing away in Kzn [16:22] *washing [16:22] nie te sleg nie dankie en jy ? [16:23] yeah, awesome rain :) [16:23] dit gaan goed dankie oom! [16:23] mooi [16:23] Ballito was about 90% gridlock today when I went home [16:23] I didn't hear anything on the radio :-/ [16:23] I wonder what was going on [16:23] gridlock? [16:24] Kilos: when the cars are in such a position that nobody can move [16:24] lol [16:24] Maaz: define gridlock [16:24] nuvolari_: gridlock n 1: a traffic jam so bad that no movement is possible [16:25] being in that situation sucks [16:25] just start smashing cars with a baseball bat and watch how quick they find a way out [16:26] or you'll end up dead [16:26] there's nowhere to go [16:26] goeie more Kilos [16:26] yeah then you dont have to worry anyway [16:26] and good evening everyone else [16:26] jislaaik inetpro, dis sons-ondergang :P nie opkoms nie... [16:26] dag inetpro is jy ok? [16:26] :-) [16:26] I'm all good Kilos [16:26] lelik skaars ne [16:26] high and dry at home [16:27] dunno where todays 60% was [16:27] lets hope [16:27] we got it [16:27] you lucky we had none [16:28] how much did you get today? we gotr 19mm last night [16:28] * inetpro had 38mm [16:28] last night and today? [16:28] lucky chap [16:28] Kilos: no just last night [16:29] wow [16:29] and today [16:29] uh... not sure [16:29] lemme go check, can't be much [16:31] nope, nada here [16:32]