| zequence | anyone got their @ubuntustudio.com adress to work yet? | 00:48 |
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| zequence | seems like the Ardour3 package depends on newer versions of other packages, than what is available to Raring | 06:58 |
| zequence | So, doesn't seem to be buildable right now | 06:59 |
| falktx_ | hm? | 07:01 |
| zequence | falktx_: I used the git tree provided by Debian MM | 07:01 |
| falktx_ | https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/3034334/+listing-archive-extra | 07:01 |
| falktx_ | me too | 07:01 |
| falktx_ | I even have it in 12.04, using updated boost packages | 07:02 |
| zequence | falktx_: Did you also update the dependencies? If you did not build against what is available in Raring, it won't help much | 07:02 |
| falktx_ | why is that? it runs fine here... | 07:03 |
| zequence | My goal was not to make it run, but to build it for Raring | 07:04 |
| falktx_ | I'm not sure what's going on then, I built it just fine | 07:04 |
| zequence | falktx_: So, did you update the dependencies, or no? | 07:05 |
| falktx_ | have been doing so from a couple of svn versions before the release | 07:05 |
| falktx_ | zequence: for raring, not at all | 07:05 |
| falktx_ | which dependencies? | 07:05 |
| zequence | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/135265308/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-amd64.ardour3_3.0~dfsg-1ubuntu1_MANUALDEPWAIT.txt.gz | 07:05 |
| zequence | After installing, the following source dependencies are still unsatisfied: | 07:06 |
| zequence | libraptor2-dev(inst 2.0.8-2 ! >= wanted 2.0.9) liblrdf0-dev(inst 0.4.0-5build1 ! >= wanted 1.0.15) libserd-dev(inst 0.18.2~dfsg0-1 ! >= wanted 0.18.2) libsord-dev(inst 0.10.4~dfsg0-1 ! >= wanted 0.12.0) .. etc | 07:06 |
| falktx_ | those are stupid | 07:06 |
| falktx_ | except raptor, but ardour doesn't use that | 07:06 |
| falktx_ | ah wait, sord is right | 07:06 |
| falktx_ | but look at serd: | 07:07 |
| falktx_ | libserd-dev(inst 0.18.2~dfsg0-1 ! >= wanted 0.18.2) | 07:07 |
| falktx_ | it's actually 0.18.2 in there | 07:07 |
| falktx_ | so I guess I updated some dependencies, basic lv2 libs | 07:07 |
| falktx_ | (and to build without debug, again) | 07:08 |
| zequence | falktx_: I'm not very used to waf builds, but where in the Debian package build does it make it build in debug mode? | 07:10 |
| falktx_ | http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-multimedia/serd.git;a=blob;f=debian/rules;hb=HEAD | 07:11 |
| falktx_ | override_dh_auto_configure: | 07:11 |
| falktx_ | ... | 07:11 |
| falktx_ | --debug \ | 07:11 |
| falktx_ | ... | 07:11 |
| zequence | Ok, not Ardour3 | 07:12 |
| zequence | When I have time, I will go through all of them | 07:12 |
| zequence | I also want to test the difference some day, just out of curiousity | 07:12 |
| falktx_ | if you doubt there's a difference, I will stop talking to you... | 07:13 |
| falktx_ | it's just common sense... | 07:13 |
| falktx_ | I'm pretty sure the packager of those already got the message about debug builds by now, since it was disabled in qjackctl in a few others | 07:13 |
| falktx_ | *and a few others | 07:14 |
| zequence | I just like to see what is important or not in how things are configured. Many suggested configs for audio are more or less 0 efficient, while others make almost all the difference | 07:14 |
| zequence | It is difficult to get a broad understanding without a big amount of machines though | 07:15 |
| ttoine | LIghworks: we will we be making the Linux Public Beta, which includes a much improved licensing scheme, available on 30th April 2013 | 13:34 |
| len_1304 | zequence, what does ardour with their download packages then? | 13:57 |
| len_1304 | Do they include these deps too? | 13:58 |
| zequence | len_1304: The installers at the Ardour site include all deps locally | 13:58 |
| zequence | len_1304: That is why they are installed in /opt/, I guess. All the deps end up inside the ardour folder | 13:59 |
| zequence | But, when packaging for Debian, it's all Debianified | 13:59 |
| len_1304 | So they are still loadable libs then not part of the one binary. | 14:00 |
| zequence | I haven't investigated in detail, but you don't need to install deps separately | 14:00 |
| len_1304 | I haven't really looked through what I have downloaded either. | 14:01 |
| zequence | It's of course possible to create a package like that too, if one wants to | 14:01 |
| zequence | For Debian, I mean | 14:01 |
| zequence | There are some people who would prefare a system like that | 14:02 |
| zequence | Would mean apps take more space | 14:02 |
| len_1304 | I would wonder if there would be problems with a loadable lib of a different version and other software, I think it has to be static. | 14:02 |
| zequence | Usually, libs are backwards compatible | 14:03 |
| len_1304 | Both on disk and in memory, it would take more space | 14:03 |
| zequence | But, not the other way around | 14:03 |
| zequence | That's true | 14:03 |
| zequence | Simpler to maintain. Easier to update individual packages | 14:03 |
| zequence | More waste | 14:04 |
| len_1304 | Might be the easier way of dealing with gcdmaster | 14:04 |
| zequence | Don't know what the policy is on this though | 14:05 |
| zequence | madeinkobaia: hi | 17:07 |
| madeinkobaia | Hi :) | 17:07 |
| zequence | madeinkobaia: It's actually very early to be talking about wallpapers, but the idea is we put together some sort of submission contest for each cycle | 17:07 |
| madeinkobaia | ok | 17:08 |
| zequence | We're also in need of art for social sites, our OS, and also the website. But, we haven not discussed much on how to go about this | 17:08 |
| madeinkobaia | I am greatly interested for work on graphical interfact too or any other graphical projects | 17:09 |
| zequence | madeinkobaia: Right now, we have a very minimal look on social sites https://www.facebook.com/Ubuntustudio | 17:10 |
| zequence | https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/102125777892703446963/102125777892703446963/posts?partnerid=gplp0 | 17:10 |
| zequence | The name is done using the Ubuntu font | 17:11 |
| zequence | The icon, the name, and the slogan should all be used for social sites, as well as the web site | 17:12 |
| madeinkobaia | Indeed that will need some improvements | 17:12 |
| zequence | What I would like to see, is a unified theme idea | 17:12 |
| madeinkobaia | I must leave now :( how to stay in touch ? | 17:12 |
| zequence | madeinkobaia: Drop by here anytime | 17:13 |
| zequence | Or post on our -devel mail list | 17:13 |
| madeinkobaia | Ok, I will do that, see you soon : ) | 17:14 |
| zequence | See you :) | 17:14 |
| madeinkobaia | Bye :) | 17:15 |
| ttoine | zequence, lightworks will soon release the public beta for linux. before the one for Mac | 17:23 |
| zequence | ttoine: That will be interesting to see :) | 17:24 |
| ttoine | yes ! | 17:27 |
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