[13:16] <bluesabre_> hey micahg, have you had any luck with catfish?  Is there anything I can look at?
[14:43] <ochosi> micahg, mr_pouit: could one of you please update Greybird to v1.1.1 in shimmer-themes in order to fix bug #1158431 in Raring?
[16:19] <pleia2> articles!
[16:22] <knome> how many pages did we have all in all?
[16:23] <pleia2> 16
[16:23] <pleia2> "Installing Themes" and "Managing Themes and Styles" still need authors
[16:24] <pleia2> I can reach out beyond our -devel list if needed
[16:24] <knome> mmh
[16:24] <knome> i'm wondering if we should combine those
[16:24] <knome> i don't think they easily make 2 pages on their own
[16:24] <pleia2> ah, good point
[16:24] <pleia2> there
[16:25] <knome> will we link to the pad urls from the wiki ?
[16:25] <pleia2> yeah, I don't think we have to worry too much about vandalism
[16:26] <knome> yeah, good
[16:26] <knome> when would you have some time to work on "our" article?
[16:27] <knome> or think if there's something else we should cover
[16:28] <pleia2> should have some time over the weekend, sunday morning around this time
[16:28] <pleia2> or you can get started and I can pitch in during the evenings this week as I have time
[16:29] <pleia2> (I am mostly working during knome awake times during the week, like now)
[16:29] <knome> heh, yeah
[16:29] <knome> what about the latter stuff?
[16:30] <knome> i think at this point it would be better if we played editors and thought what we still need
[16:30] <knome> and possibly do some estimates on how many pages would each article cover
[16:31] <pleia2> I don't know that we can do the estimates, I don't know what people intend to write
[16:31] <pleia2> but yeah, we should mostly be editors, I don't know what other articles to add though
[16:31] <knome> mmh
[16:31] <knome> i'll try to think about them and post to the channel
[16:32] <pleia2> wanna create pads and link to wiki? I need to dive into work
[16:32] <knome> mmh, i can
[16:32] <knome> hf
[16:32] <pleia2> +follow up on list
[16:32] <pleia2> thanks
[16:32] <knome> sure
[16:32] <knome> np
[16:49] <knome> done
[17:04] <scottbomb> I have a question about reporting bugs during testing. I download an ISO, install it, test it, and run across a bug. I search, can't find it already reported so I create a new bug report. But the next day, on the next ISO, the bug is no longer there. I then go and change the bug status to invalid. Is this the correct way to go about it? I am checking md5 so I'm confident in the ISO integrity but maybe I sho
[17:05] <GridCube> yes, that is correct, if the problem persist then you have pinpointed its origin
[17:06] <knome> scottbomb, for possible future regressions, i'd comment the date the bug appeared and the date when it disappeared
[17:12] <scottbomb> So I do report it the first time I see it?
[17:12] <knome> scottbomb, sure, as usual
[17:12] <scottbomb> Cool thanks.
[17:13] <knome> scottbomb, then if it disappears, mark it invalid and comment "this no longer exists in image from xxxxxxxx"
[17:21] <scottbomb> Will do, thanks.
[19:57] <Noskcaj> is it possible to use gnome-screensaver instead of xscreensaver, it's not pretty either, but the pic is less scary
[20:06] <Unit193> Noskcaj: Have you looked at the depends of that package or even installed it?
[20:06] <pleia2> is there a not-crazy way for us to patch xscreensaver with a less scary picture?
[20:07] <pleia2> "amagad computer on fire... no wait just screen lock, what?"
[20:08] <Noskcaj> Unit193, i have it installed, forgot what else it installed though
[20:09] <pleia2> looks like we can edit the colors with a config, but not the image
[20:09] <Noskcaj> pleia2, no, there's a lot of discussion on the ubuntu forums about it
[20:09] <Unit193> libgnome-desktop-3-4, which depends on gnome-desktop3-data and many more fun things.
[20:09] <pleia2> yeah, gnome-screensaver pulls in like half of gnome :(
[20:13] <Unit193> Just replace the xscreensaver-5.15/utils/images/logo*xmp files and recompile. :P
[20:15] <Noskcaj> Unit193, you say it as though that's  easy
[20:16] <Unit193> Well, I was kidding, but not too bad with pbuilder.
[20:20] <pleia2> I think it would be easy, but it is a patch we'd have to carry and that's never delightful (looks like we just sync from debian now?)
[20:20] <pleia2> and I don't think the rest of ubuntu would love us if we stuck a mouse on it :)
[20:20] <pleia2> maddernick: plz make us a xubuntu-xscreensaver
[20:21] <maddernick> wasn't ochosi working on something like that?
[20:21] <Noskcaj> lol, maybe if you make it look for an external photo, lubuntu won't hate us
[20:22] <pleia2> maddernick: I know he was reviewing alternatives a while back
[20:22] <maddernick> ah
[20:22] <pleia2> maybe for 13.10 :)
[20:22] <pleia2> it is something people complain about though, I watched my fiance go through the "whoa, what the" moment when he installed xubuntu
[20:23] <pleia2> "oh that's just the lock screen" "with FIRE?!"
[20:24] <maddernick> hehe, iirc its quite a pain to make screensavers, and image formats etc complicate matters
[20:24] <pleia2> not screensavers, just changing the image on the lock dialog
[20:24] <pleia2> the screensavers are fine :)
[20:25] <maddernick> same thing applies :P
[20:26] <maddernick> There was, iirc, this one little thing that made it horrid, I may have to look into what that was again ;)
[20:26] <Unit193> pleia2: He was looking for lockers.
[20:26] <pleia2> there's /usr/share/pixmaps/xscreensaver.svg & /usr/share/pixmaps/xscreensaver.xpm
[20:26] <pleia2> http://www.swanson.ukfsn.org/xss/ explains how to make them
[20:26] <pleia2> (and has a patch)
[20:26] <Unit193> (It never really worried me, I don't get the big fuss over it.)
[20:27] <pleia2> Unit193: we put all this work into making xubuntu beautiful :)
[20:27] <Cheri703> and then have a crunchy looking flaming computer pop up
[20:28] <pleia2> yeah
[20:29] <Unit193> pleia2: Sure, but that's a given. :P
[20:40] <ochosi> maddernick, pleia2: yes, i'm working on a locker for lightdm
[20:40] <ochosi> hopefully we can use it in R+1
[20:40] <ochosi> (it's already working though)
[20:45] <Noskcaj> ochosi, can we have it in a PPA for testing purposes
[20:46] <ochosi> if you put it in one, then yes :)
[20:46] <bluesabre_> based on some of the things I've seen requested and my own experience, i think it would be worthwhile to make a basic proxy app for xubuntu/xfce
[20:46] <ochosi> as soon as we've done a first release, i'm considering packaging
[20:46] <ochosi> but not really before that
[20:46] <ochosi> bluesabre_: +1
[20:47] <Unit193> bluesabre_: +2
[20:47] <bluesabre_> I might play with that with all the extra time I'll have while in NY next month
[20:47] <bluesabre_> as well as learning java and who knows what else
[20:50] <Noskcaj> bluesabre_, +3
[20:53] <Unit193> (Though, I wouldn't personally use such a tool.)
[20:54] <Unit193> bluesabre_: Have you seen the "LXProxy" ?  It doesn't seem to have gone much of anywhere, buuut.
[20:54] <bluesabre_> I'll look into that.  Thanks Unit193
[20:55] <knome> hullo.
[20:55] <bluesabre_> hey knome
[20:55] <knome> march 26, the official worldwide day of confused clients
[20:55] <knome> :)
[20:56] <knome> (not in a bad way, i've just been explaining stuff to several ones today)
[20:59] <knome> ho-humm
[21:11] <Noskcaj> knome, but it's the 27th. stupid timezones
[21:12] <Noskcaj> i've added some stuff to most of the magazine articles, if anyone wants to look over them
[21:12] <knome> i think it was 26th even in your TZ when i had those calls/discussions ;)
[21:13] <knome> fortunately my clients don't call me at 11pm
[21:13] <knome> (usually)
[21:13] <Noskcaj> lol, it's 8am, so possibly
[21:13] <knome> yeah, i just went them through. looks good
[23:22] <ochosi> bluesabre_: shouldn't a proxy-settings UI be rather simplish to do? basically just setting the ENV_VAR or is there more to it?