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Bradley24how do i configure the desktop so that by using a hot-key or a mouse click (it used to be middle mouse click) to bring up the ability to cascade or tile all the windows on the desktop?05:17
FloodBotK1!netsplit05:44
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit05:44
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FloodBotK1!netsplit06:03
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit06:03
Bradley24How does one configure KDE/Kubuntu so that by using a hot-key or a mouse click the window manager cascades all the windows on that desktop?06:11
lordievaderGood morning06:57
eagles0513875hey lordievader07:14
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totalanonymityhey guys, i have not installed kubuntu 12.04 since some time now and now im here confused by  "additional driver" problems ... ok for iam german i try to translate the four possibilities i have to choose from for my radeon graphics card. 1.experimental amd binary Xorg  2.proprietary 3.proprietary (**experimental** beta) 4. proprietary (updates)09:20
totalanonymitywhich one should i use ?09:21
totalanonymityand what is this experimental amd binary stuff about ? its the first time ive seen it09:22
lordievadertotalanonymity: For me in 12.04 option 4 didn't work, so I used option 2 there. However in 12.10 option 4 did work for me.09:22
lordievadertotalanonymity: The other options are new to me too, haven't seen them before. Perhaps it is due to the .2 release of Precise?09:22
totalanonymitywell the disk i installed it from is about 1 year old and i cant remember that i ve seen that option before so i guess it came updates ... well its just interesting what differences it would do to my system09:24
lordievadertotalanonymity: Do you know how to use the text version of the jockey?09:24
lordievaderJockey = additional drivers thingie09:25
totalanonymityjust roughly09:25
totalanonymitywhy?09:26
lordievadertotalanonymity: It is usefull to know if the driver fails and you are stuck at a black screen when you try to start X.09:26
totalanonymityok well i didnt know that , i guess i will give that a try :) so thank u dude !09:27
invariantJockey: most worthless application ever.09:39
Captain_Protonwas that a ? or a statment :P09:43
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zordbuon giornio10:17
zordprima esperienza linux10:17
lordievader!es | zord10:17
ubottuzord: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.10:17
zordgood morning10:18
lordievaderOr is it italian?10:18
zordys10:18
lordievaderWe got that too :)10:18
lordievader!it10:18
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)10:18
zordtanks10:18
lordievaderNo problem10:19
_droidhello people, I'm new to kubuntu and want to migrate my emails which are all stored in outlook2007 to kmail. now i searched with google for a solution but it is either migrating FROM kmail or migrating TO thunderbird. can someone help11:23
Tm_T_droid: I would migrate those mails to imap server11:46
Tm_Tafter that it wouldn't matter what client you would be using with it11:47
ovidiu-florinhello world :D11:50
ovidiu-florinsince monday every morning I find my computer frozen. This is my work computer and this one usualy is not turned off except for hollydays.11:50
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Is it X that freezes or everything?11:51
ovidiu-florineverything11:51
ovidiu-florinthis error something was printed on the screen11:51
ovidiu-florinI'll show the pictures in a few moments11:52
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Yes than syslog or dmesg log.11:52
ovidiu-florinsomething with CPU stuck for 22 seconds11:52
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Hmm yes, I'm starting to think dmesg is a better place to start. I believe I'm correct in stating that the dmesg log is the kernel log.11:58
ovidiu-florinlordievader: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7bhY8WXXh_IWnFhc29SSUpqbHM/edit?usp=sharing11:58
ovidiu-florinsyslog11:58
ovidiu-florinlordievader: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L2RhT08_PF8vG8zUHMVXPA-SFSp-WvE2vAA_zWU06Vc/edit?usp=sharing12:00
lordievaderovidiu-florin: You know pastebinit can be quite usefull for these kind of things.12:00
ovidiu-florindmesg12:00
lordievader!pastebinit12:00
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com12:00
ovidiu-florinI know12:00
ovidiu-florinbut there is a limit of characters12:00
ovidiu-florin45 000 lines is a bit much for a pastebin12:01
_droid1Tm_T: well i have configured my account to pop for a long time12:01
lordievaderovidiu-florin: You want to bit before the restart... not everything :P12:01
ovidiu-florinI can't exactly tell when the restart was made from that log file12:02
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Neither can I... :(12:03
ovidiu-florinthe first line in the syslog12:04
ovidiu-florinBUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 23s! [kwin:1951]12:04
ovidiu-florinthat kept showing up12:05
ovidiu-florinand then just some 5 lined hex code12:05
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Would it be kwin? Are you using Xrender?12:05
ovidiu-florinnot sure how to check?12:05
ovidiu-florinno12:06
ovidiu-florinOpenGL12:06
ovidiu-florinif what I can see from system settings -> desktop effects -> advanced it what I'm looking for12:06
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Hmm... Every mention of the soft lockup mentions kwin.12:07
ovidiu-florinevery day before I leave work, I lock the session: ctrl+alt+ L12:09
ovidiu-florinand then the screen saver starts (asciquarium)12:09
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Does it have a ATI/AMD card?12:10
ovidiu-florinin the morning I move the mouse and type my keyboard12:10
ovidiu-florinNvidia card12:10
ovidiu-florinthis started happening since monday12:10
ovidiu-florinI have this Kubuntu installed for a few months and the same version on the home computer12:10
ovidiu-florin12.04 with backports12:11
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Did you update kwin?12:11
ovidiu-florinif it showed up in the updates, then Yes12:11
lordievaderovidiu-florin: apt log is in /var/log/apt/history12:11
lordievaderovidiu-florin: You could try switching the kwin renderer to Xrender (CPU) and see if the problem persists. If it no longer persists it is probably the video card driver. (Or so I think)12:12
ovidiu-florinin 2013-03-07 upgrade to libkwinglutils1abi1:amd64 (4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1, 4.10.1b-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1)12:13
ovidiu-florinalso libkwineffects1abi4:amd6412:14
ovidiu-florinand libkwinnvidiahack4:amd6412:14
ovidiu-florinthat is all12:14
lordievaderovidiu-florin: nvidiahack nice name for a lib. Like I said try Xrender. I need to go. Good luck with your problem!12:15
ovidiu-florinok, I've switched to Xrender with native12:16
Parrillociao12:16
ovidiu-florinlordievader: thank you12:16
ovidiu-florinI'm going to do a memtest, be right back12:16
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BluesKajHiyas all13:05
goodtimehello BluesKaj13:05
BluesKajhi again13:06
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ovidiu-florinhow do I change from Kwin to Xrender?13:48
goodtimechange?13:49
lordievaderovidiu-florin: System Settings -> Desktop Effects -> Advanced -> Renderer from OpenGL to XRender.13:50
ovidiu-florinok13:50
ovidiu-florinI did it right then13:51
ovidiu-florinthank you lordievader13:51
ovidiu-florinperformed a memtest = ok13:51
ovidiu-florinnow, Just wait untill tomorrow :D13:51
lordievaderHehe.13:51
ovidiu-florinand if averything is ok, I'll start next week investigating more in this problem13:52
lordievaderovidiu-florin: If it is solved check out the nVidia driver...13:54
ovidiu-florinthat could also be an issue13:54
gennroMorning!15:49
lordievaderGood afternoon gennro15:49
gennroheh15:49
gennroI have a problem with Kubuntu 13.04 Beta1 on install......15:50
lordievadergennro: Support for Raring is in #ubuntu+115:50
lordievader!raring15:50
ubottuUbuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) will be the 18th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+115:50
gennroah ok, thanks15:50
yuraHello16:24
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ovidiu-florinhello Guest5211916:25
Guest52119after upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 I have got a an error after some time16:25
Guest52119KLauncher available through D-Bus, call failed start_service_by_desktop_path16:26
Guest52119i launch few apps and after some time/non-understandable reasons it's shows this error, close all apps and don't make possible to start new instances16:27
Guest5211912. 04 doesn't had such bug for me16:27
Guest52119does anybody know how to resolve this?16:53
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lordievaderGood evening19:02
BluesKajgood afternoon19:03
lordievader;)19:04
[Relic]what all should I remove before switching to a new vid card; I am sure I will need to reinstall everything but I want it detecting and storing the info for the new card w/o the old interfering19:04
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BluesKaj[Relic]:  no need to reinstall everything for a new graphics card , just install the  driver in additional drivers afyer resetting the new card as default in the BIOS19:06
BluesKajafyer=after19:07
[Relic]so any X settings that exist will be rewritten?19:08
BluesKaj[Relic]:  there is no xorg.conf  unless you have written one specifically19:09
BluesKajif it's nvidia card then you can do nvidia-xconfig after installing the driver, [Relic]19:10
[Relic]far as I know the driver is current so I am guessing I should just need to do nvidia-xconfig after switching19:10
BluesKaj[Relic]:  try checking the drivers available in "additonal drivers" , in kmenu>system to make sure the correct one is activated19:12
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palassoI read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu#QuantalQuetzal.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Secure_Boot19:13
palassoIs Kubuntu 13.04 going to support secure boot?19:13
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BluesKajpalasso:  best to ask that in #ubuntu+119:15
lordievaderpalasso: Do you have a machine which supports secure boot? I believe we needed testers who could test secure-boot.19:16
palassolordievader, not yet... I might buy one in the next couple of months19:19
[Relic]Everything appears normal except the gpu temp which seems quite low but this is a much newer card19:37
BluesKaj[Relic]:  which nvidia card is it ?19:39
[Relic]430gt19:40
BluesKajtechlife:  check your connection , you're flooding the channel19:40
[Relic]replaced the 8600gt that had the fan die on it19:42
luk-Hi i'm trying to enable error/warning on php but i can't. I tryed to put error_reporting(-1); in my php file  and in the php.ini but no errors appear, just a white screen. Any idea? i'm running my server in localhost (ps i've 2 php.ini, one in the apache2 folder, the other one in the php5 folder)19:46
lordievaderluk-: Are you running Apache(2)?19:49
luk-yes19:49
lordievaderOh nvm, do you have access to the logs?19:49
lordievaderluk-: /var/log/apache219:50
luk-ok i'm checking19:50
lordievaderluk-: There is an error.log in there. Usually php errors get logged there, for me at least ;)19:50
luk-yes i see but they're not detailed19:50
luk-it just report the access19:51
luk-ah no there's error.log :D19:51
luk-perfect! thank you! lordievader19:51
lordievaderNo problem ;)19:52
DarthFrogDoes anyone have any idea why "dpkg -i libssl1.0.0_1.0.0e-2ubuntu4.5_i386.deb"  would hang at the setting up stage?19:53
DarthFrog /var/log/dpkg.log ends with: 2013-03-27 12:43:02 status half-configured libssl1.0.0 1.0.0e-2ubuntu4.519:55
DarthFrogthat timestamp is about 12 minutes old and the commandline is still on "Setting up ..".19:56
[Relic]Is there something that can show the nvidia card temp in the tray area in the area by the clock?19:59
DarthFrog[Relic]:  That'd be useful.19:59
BluesKajDarthFrog:  checking the repos , libssl1.0.0.i386 is the default ...is yours an upgrade ?19:59
DarthFrogBluesKaj:  The machine is on 12.04.2 and I'm trying to recover from a dist-upgrade a few days ago where libssl1.0.0 hung.20:00
DarthFrogAs it's doing now.  I removed it and am trying to re-install it.20:01
giantpunehi, ive got a laptop on kubuntu 120.4 that ive been using fine for the past couple weeks.  today i shut it down, replaced the ram, and when i booted it up, im getting this issue20:04
giantpunehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/213614/waiting-for-network-configuration-problem20:04
giantpunei have booted a liveusb of kubuntu and i am able to get the internet there, and all the ram is recognized20:04
BluesKaj[Relic]:  check the widget downloads in the panel20:07
lordievadergiantpune: Are you talking about the wifi or the lan card? Is there a mention of these in /etc/network/interfaces?20:08
giantpunei usually use wifi.  ive never even plugged in a lan cable to this computer20:09
giantpunesomething just happened, and the wifi came up without me doing anything.  i wonder if its going to make me wait at every boot now for 3 minutes :S20:10
lordievadergiantpune: Can you check if there is something in /etc/network/interfaces?20:14
[Relic]sadly simple nvidia v2 is like 2x or 3x my tray size20:14
giantpunelordievader, i have an entry for "auto lo" and "auto eth0"20:15
DarthFrogBluesKaj:  I seem to have fixed it. :-)20:16
lordievadergiantpune: That should be allright, you could try moving the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file to some other dir.20:16
lordievadergiantpune: That solution fixes the problem for my VMs.20:16
Gregor3000well that's just great. SAFE updates messed up the computer20:17
Gregor3000come on!!!!20:17
giantpunehmm.  it happened again.  i sat around and waited a bit and it eventually it asked me for the password to kwallet.  once i give it that, the network stuff comes up.20:17
Gregor3000mouse is not working, keyboar dis different that it was set btu i came into KDE20:17
BluesKajDarthFrog: good !20:17
giantpuneso i think i need to tell it not to use kwallet for the wifi password stuff?20:18
Gregor3000how do i get to grub? i tried with shif but it ignores me20:18
Gregor3000shift20:18
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Gregor3000any way to redo the updates? the only update it couldn't do was cromium security update.20:19
BluesKajGregor3000:  left shift immediately after the bios screen20:21
lordievadergiantpune: If you use the kde network manager it automatically ties into kwallet, I think.20:21
giantpuneyeah.  i think i had told it to store the password in an unencrypted file on my other laptop, which is why it doesnt hang at startup20:22
Gregor3000yes. it ignores me.20:22
Gregor3000now what?20:22
Gregor3000how do i redo updates or get to the older version?20:22
BluesKajtry nomodeset20:22
giantpuneif you use encrypted storage you have to wait for kwallet and it slows down the whole bootup20:22
BluesKaj!nomodest20:22
BluesKajoops20:22
BluesKaj!nomodeset20:23
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:23
Gregor3000nomodeset? why? it wasn't necessary before and i do get into KDE normally. i even get info about a new update and all. only mouse doesn't work. keyboard works, but is not the one i use but porbably default USA keyboard or something20:23
Gregor3000besides i can't get into grub20:23
mikkleIs it possible to move the trash folder off my home drive and to my secondary storage drive?20:24
mikklemy home folder is on a relatively small SSD, and sometimes I delete large amounts of data on my secondary drive which gets throw to my SSD20:24
Gregor3000mikkle i think if you delete with shift it doesn't go into trash but is deleted "completelly"20:25
mikkleGregor, I know, but that's not what I want either20:25
mikkleI want a trash bin but just not on my SSD20:26
[Relic]any idea where the plasmoid stuff is stored maybe I can figure out how to resize this thing20:26
mikkleIf I create a trash folder on my secondary drive and create a symlink in ~/.local/share/ to it, would that work?20:26
mikkleprovided permissions are set properly?20:26
mikklecan someone confirm whether the trash is located in ~/.local/share/ ?20:27
mikkle(I have a tash folder there.)20:27
Gregor3000aha i got into older kernel now. so how do i remove the new one and reinstall/redo the updates?20:29
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jman074hello everyone20:53
jman074i have a pid for a program that runs good but just shuts down randomly at will. is there a code to make it priority20:54
lordievaderHey jman074, how have you been?20:58
lordievaderjman074: You can change it's nice level, but if the program segfaults there is not much you can do.20:59
jman074busier then ever with work and school.21:00
jman074im not sure what its doin it just shuts down at random. no error messages or anything21:01
lordievaderjman074: What program are we talking about?21:01
jman074so how have you been21:02
jman074transmission bittorrent client21:03
lordievaderjman074: I'm doing good ;). Do you run transmission in daemon mode? Anyhow with the -e flag you can specify a log file.21:08
jman074im still a little slow what do you mean daemon mode21:09
lordievaderjman074: A daemon is some service that runs in the background (you don't see it running).21:10
jman074no i don't run it in that mode. umm when it shuts down i type top in the terminal and its not there21:12
lordievaderjman074: Check the man-page for transmission to see what the log flag is. It is probably -e, can you check it this is correct. Also what command do you use to start transmission?21:14
jman074type man-page in terminal?21:16
lordievaderjman074: man transmission* (*not literally transmission* I don't know what the command is...)21:17
lordievaderUse tab, that will autocomplete21:18
jman074there is an icon i use to open it on the desktop21:20
lordievaderjman074: Ok, what command does the icon use? ;)21:21
jman074yeh nothings workin21:24
jman074wait got it21:24
jman074now what am i looking for21:24
jman074i don't see log flag21:24
FloodBotK1jman074: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:24
lordievaderjman074: What is the command?21:25
jman074man transmission-gtk21:29
jman074internet is actin slow on moment21:31
lordievaderjman074: You are probably running transmission :P21:35
lordievaderWelcome back, jman07421:39
jman074crazy computer21:42
jman074lol21:42
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cahir:)21:43
jman074did you get that link21:43
jman074?21:43
lordievaderjman074: Nope, guess not.21:43
jman074http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653524/21:44
lordievaderWell that's usefull -.-21:45
jman074booger21:46
jman074lol21:46
jman074hold on21:46
jman074sorry21:46
lordievaderjman074: This might work though, for logging I mean: "transmission-gtk >> /var/log/transmission.log"21:46
jman074permission denied21:47
jman074i even typed sudo in front of it21:48
lordievaderjman074: Thought that would happen. "sudo touch /var/log/transmission.log; sudo chmod 777 /var/log/transmission.log" and then the afore mentioned command again.21:48
jman074when i type the command  nothing happens21:51
lordievaderjman074: Correct, nothing should happen. First you make an empty file, second you make it writable to all. And then you start transmission while piping all the console output to the file you've just created. You might want to use "transmission-gtk >> /var/log/transmission.log&" though <- the & puts it in the background.21:53
jman074o0o. so now instead of runnin the file like i have been type the for mentioned line and it will run21:55
lordievaderjman074: With "tail -f /var/log/transmission.log" you can see what is logged.21:55
lordievaderHopefully something usefull is logged...21:55
lordievaderYes, the idea is that it runs with some logging, and hopefully usefull. So that when it crashes you can take a look at the log and perhaps see what the error is.21:56
jman074sweet21:56
jman074im curious now.21:57
lordievaderjman074: With "tail -f /var/log/transmission.log" you can see what is logged.21:57
jman074lol21:57
jman074nothin yet21:58
jman074lol21:58
lordievaderjman074: Hmm, empty file?21:58
jman074no result when typed21:59
lordievaderjman074: Does "cat /var/log/transmission.log" show anything? You are running transmission right?21:59
jman074correct21:59
jman074no result22:01
lordievaderjman074: Hmm, I guess transmission doesn't output anything then...22:02
jman074thats whats wierd when it closes thats it no lagging or anything no error messages22:03
lordievaderjman074: In the console you mean?22:05
lordievaderBbl.22:07
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k1ck-soeeomfg :/ how can i logout from this stupid ubunut one client and login on differet account ?22:11
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jman074by disabling the account22:12
jman074but you should be able to open multiple accounts at once22:13
soeejman074, how can i disable account22:14
jman074what program are you using to log into it22:16
soeeubuntu one client22:16
jman074one sec22:16
jman074what happens when you click disconnect in account infor22:20
soeejman074, ok i finally logout22:21
soeedont know why but last hoour i couldnt22:21
jman074k22:21
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Bradley24How does one configure KDE/Kubuntu so that by using a hot-key or a mouse click the window manager cascades all the windows on that desktop?23:03
mimmociaooo23:04
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Soru_Bradley24: Add the "show desktop" plasmoid to the system tray and configure it with for example, alt + D23:05
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SebastianMwhat could be the reason,  why some chars like ^ do not work?23:28
SebastianMthe program "xev" gives out ^ when typing it23:29
SebastianMbut no other program gives it out23:29
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Soru_I don't know... Someone can help SebastianM?23:59

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