[05:17] <Bradley24> how do i configure the desktop so that by using a hot-key or a mouse click (it used to be middle mouse click) to bring up the ability to cascade or tile all the windows on the desktop?
[05:44] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[06:03] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[06:11] <Bradley24> How does one configure KDE/Kubuntu so that by using a hot-key or a mouse click the window manager cascades all the windows on that desktop?
[06:57] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:14] <eagles0513875> hey lordievader
[09:20] <totalanonymity> hey guys, i have not installed kubuntu 12.04 since some time now and now im here confused by  "additional driver" problems ... ok for iam german i try to translate the four possibilities i have to choose from for my radeon graphics card. 1.experimental amd binary Xorg  2.proprietary 3.proprietary (**experimental** beta) 4. proprietary (updates)
[09:21] <totalanonymity> which one should i use ?
[09:22] <totalanonymity> and what is this experimental amd binary stuff about ? its the first time ive seen it
[09:22] <lordievader> totalanonymity: For me in 12.04 option 4 didn't work, so I used option 2 there. However in 12.10 option 4 did work for me.
[09:22] <lordievader> totalanonymity: The other options are new to me too, haven't seen them before. Perhaps it is due to the .2 release of Precise?
[09:24] <totalanonymity> well the disk i installed it from is about 1 year old and i cant remember that i ve seen that option before so i guess it came updates ... well its just interesting what differences it would do to my system
[09:24] <lordievader> totalanonymity: Do you know how to use the text version of the jockey?
[09:25] <lordievader> Jockey = additional drivers thingie
[09:25] <totalanonymity> just roughly
[09:26] <totalanonymity> why?
[09:26] <lordievader> totalanonymity: It is usefull to know if the driver fails and you are stuck at a black screen when you try to start X.
[09:27] <totalanonymity> ok well i didnt know that , i guess i will give that a try :) so thank u dude !
[09:39] <invariant> Jockey: most worthless application ever.
[09:43] <Captain_Proton> was that a ? or a statment :P
[10:17] <zord> buon giornio
[10:17] <zord> prima esperienza linux
[10:17] <lordievader> !es | zord
[10:18] <zord> good morning
[10:18] <lordievader> Or is it italian?
[10:18] <zord> ys
[10:18] <lordievader> We got that too :)
[10:18] <lordievader> !it
[10:18] <zord> tanks
[10:19] <lordievader> No problem
[11:23] <_droid> hello people, I'm new to kubuntu and want to migrate my emails which are all stored in outlook2007 to kmail. now i searched with google for a solution but it is either migrating FROM kmail or migrating TO thunderbird. can someone help
[11:46] <Tm_T> _droid: I would migrate those mails to imap server
[11:47] <Tm_T> after that it wouldn't matter what client you would be using with it
[11:50] <ovidiu-florin> hello world :D
[11:50] <ovidiu-florin> since monday every morning I find my computer frozen. This is my work computer and this one usualy is not turned off except for hollydays.
[11:51] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Is it X that freezes or everything?
[11:51] <ovidiu-florin> everything
[11:51] <ovidiu-florin> this error something was printed on the screen
[11:52] <ovidiu-florin> I'll show the pictures in a few moments
[11:52] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Yes than syslog or dmesg log.
[11:52] <ovidiu-florin> something with CPU stuck for 22 seconds
[11:58] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Hmm yes, I'm starting to think dmesg is a better place to start. I believe I'm correct in stating that the dmesg log is the kernel log.
[11:58] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7bhY8WXXh_IWnFhc29SSUpqbHM/edit?usp=sharing
[11:58] <ovidiu-florin> syslog
[12:00] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L2RhT08_PF8vG8zUHMVXPA-SFSp-WvE2vAA_zWU06Vc/edit?usp=sharing
[12:00] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: You know pastebinit can be quite usefull for these kind of things.
[12:00] <ovidiu-florin> dmesg
[12:00] <lordievader> !pastebinit
[12:00] <ovidiu-florin> I know
[12:00] <ovidiu-florin> but there is a limit of characters
[12:01] <ovidiu-florin> 45 000 lines is a bit much for a pastebin
[12:01] <_droid1> Tm_T: well i have configured my account to pop for a long time
[12:01] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: You want to bit before the restart... not everything :P
[12:02] <ovidiu-florin> I can't exactly tell when the restart was made from that log file
[12:03] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Neither can I... :(
[12:04] <ovidiu-florin> the first line in the syslog
[12:04] <ovidiu-florin> BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 23s! [kwin:1951]
[12:05] <ovidiu-florin> that kept showing up
[12:05] <ovidiu-florin> and then just some 5 lined hex code
[12:05] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Would it be kwin? Are you using Xrender?
[12:05] <ovidiu-florin> not sure how to check?
[12:06] <ovidiu-florin> no
[12:06] <ovidiu-florin> OpenGL
[12:06] <ovidiu-florin> if what I can see from system settings -> desktop effects -> advanced it what I'm looking for
[12:07] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Hmm... Every mention of the soft lockup mentions kwin.
[12:09] <ovidiu-florin> every day before I leave work, I lock the session: ctrl+alt+ L
[12:09] <ovidiu-florin> and then the screen saver starts (asciquarium)
[12:10] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Does it have a ATI/AMD card?
[12:10] <ovidiu-florin> in the morning I move the mouse and type my keyboard
[12:10] <ovidiu-florin> Nvidia card
[12:10] <ovidiu-florin> this started happening since monday
[12:10] <ovidiu-florin> I have this Kubuntu installed for a few months and the same version on the home computer
[12:11] <ovidiu-florin> 12.04 with backports
[12:11] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Did you update kwin?
[12:11] <ovidiu-florin> if it showed up in the updates, then Yes
[12:11] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: apt log is in /var/log/apt/history
[12:12] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: You could try switching the kwin renderer to Xrender (CPU) and see if the problem persists. If it no longer persists it is probably the video card driver. (Or so I think)
[12:13] <ovidiu-florin> in 2013-03-07 upgrade to libkwinglutils1abi1:amd64 (4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1, 4.10.1b-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa1)
[12:14] <ovidiu-florin> also libkwineffects1abi4:amd64
[12:14] <ovidiu-florin> and libkwinnvidiahack4:amd64
[12:14] <ovidiu-florin> that is all
[12:15] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: nvidiahack nice name for a lib. Like I said try Xrender. I need to go. Good luck with your problem!
[12:16] <ovidiu-florin> ok, I've switched to Xrender with native
[12:16] <Parrillo> ciao
[12:16] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: thank you
[12:16] <ovidiu-florin> I'm going to do a memtest, be right back
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:05] <goodtime> hello BluesKaj
[13:06] <BluesKaj> hi again
[13:48] <ovidiu-florin> how do I change from Kwin to Xrender?
[13:49] <goodtime> change?
[13:50] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: System Settings -> Desktop Effects -> Advanced -> Renderer from OpenGL to XRender.
[13:50] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[13:51] <ovidiu-florin> I did it right then
[13:51] <ovidiu-florin> thank you lordievader
[13:51] <ovidiu-florin> performed a memtest = ok
[13:51] <ovidiu-florin> now, Just wait untill tomorrow :D
[13:51] <lordievader> Hehe.
[13:52] <ovidiu-florin> and if averything is ok, I'll start next week investigating more in this problem
[13:54] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: If it is solved check out the nVidia driver...
[13:54] <ovidiu-florin> that could also be an issue
[15:49] <gennro> Morning!
[15:49] <lordievader> Good afternoon gennro
[15:49] <gennro> heh
[15:50] <gennro> I have a problem with Kubuntu 13.04 Beta1 on install......
[15:50] <lordievader> gennro: Support for Raring is in #ubuntu+1
[15:50] <lordievader> !raring
[15:50] <gennro> ah ok, thanks
[16:24] <yura> Hello
[16:25] <ovidiu-florin> hello Guest52119
[16:25] <Guest52119> after upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 I have got a an error after some time
[16:26] <Guest52119> KLauncher available through D-Bus, call failed start_service_by_desktop_path
[16:27] <Guest52119> i launch few apps and after some time/non-understandable reasons it's shows this error, close all apps and don't make possible to start new instances
[16:27] <Guest52119> 12. 04 doesn't had such bug for me
[16:53] <Guest52119> does anybody know how to resolve this?
[19:02] <lordievader> Good evening
[19:03] <BluesKaj> good afternoon
[19:04] <lordievader> ;)
[19:04] <[Relic]> what all should I remove before switching to a new vid card; I am sure I will need to reinstall everything but I want it detecting and storing the info for the new card w/o the old interfering
[19:06] <BluesKaj> [Relic]:  no need to reinstall everything for a new graphics card , just install the  driver in additional drivers afyer resetting the new card as default in the BIOS
[19:07] <BluesKaj> afyer=after
[19:08] <[Relic]> so any X settings that exist will be rewritten?
[19:09] <BluesKaj> [Relic]:  there is no xorg.conf  unless you have written one specifically
[19:10] <BluesKaj> if it's nvidia card then you can do nvidia-xconfig after installing the driver, [Relic]
[19:10] <[Relic]> far as I know the driver is current so I am guessing I should just need to do nvidia-xconfig after switching
[19:12] <BluesKaj> [Relic]:  try checking the drivers available in "additonal drivers" , in kmenu>system to make sure the correct one is activated
[19:13] <palasso> I read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu#QuantalQuetzal.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Secure_Boot
[19:13] <palasso> Is Kubuntu 13.04 going to support secure boot?
[19:15] <BluesKaj> palasso:  best to ask that in #ubuntu+1
[19:16] <lordievader> palasso: Do you have a machine which supports secure boot? I believe we needed testers who could test secure-boot.
[19:19] <palasso> lordievader, not yet... I might buy one in the next couple of months
[19:37] <[Relic]> Everything appears normal except the gpu temp which seems quite low but this is a much newer card
[19:39] <BluesKaj> [Relic]:  which nvidia card is it ?
[19:40] <[Relic]> 430gt
[19:40] <BluesKaj> techlife:  check your connection , you're flooding the channel
[19:42] <[Relic]> replaced the 8600gt that had the fan die on it
[19:46] <luk-> Hi i'm trying to enable error/warning on php but i can't. I tryed to put error_reporting(-1); in my php file  and in the php.ini but no errors appear, just a white screen. Any idea? i'm running my server in localhost (ps i've 2 php.ini, one in the apache2 folder, the other one in the php5 folder)
[19:49] <lordievader> luk-: Are you running Apache(2)?
[19:49] <luk-> yes
[19:49] <lordievader> Oh nvm, do you have access to the logs?
[19:50] <lordievader> luk-: /var/log/apache2
[19:50] <luk-> ok i'm checking
[19:50] <lordievader> luk-: There is an error.log in there. Usually php errors get logged there, for me at least ;)
[19:50] <luk-> yes i see but they're not detailed
[19:51] <luk-> it just report the access
[19:51] <luk-> ah no there's error.log :D
[19:51] <luk-> perfect! thank you! lordievader
[19:52] <lordievader> No problem ;)
[19:53] <DarthFrog> Does anyone have any idea why "dpkg -i libssl1.0.0_1.0.0e-2ubuntu4.5_i386.deb"  would hang at the setting up stage?
[19:55] <DarthFrog>  /var/log/dpkg.log ends with: 2013-03-27 12:43:02 status half-configured libssl1.0.0 1.0.0e-2ubuntu4.5
[19:56] <DarthFrog> that timestamp is about 12 minutes old and the commandline is still on "Setting up ..".
[19:59] <[Relic]> Is there something that can show the nvidia card temp in the tray area in the area by the clock?
[19:59] <DarthFrog> [Relic]:  That'd be useful.
[19:59] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog:  checking the repos , libssl1.0.0.i386 is the default ...is yours an upgrade ?
[20:00] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  The machine is on 12.04.2 and I'm trying to recover from a dist-upgrade a few days ago where libssl1.0.0 hung.
[20:01] <DarthFrog> As it's doing now.  I removed it and am trying to re-install it.
[20:04] <giantpune> hi, ive got a laptop on kubuntu 120.4 that ive been using fine for the past couple weeks.  today i shut it down, replaced the ram, and when i booted it up, im getting this issue
[20:04] <giantpune> http://askubuntu.com/questions/213614/waiting-for-network-configuration-problem
[20:04] <giantpune> i have booted a liveusb of kubuntu and i am able to get the internet there, and all the ram is recognized
[20:07] <BluesKaj> [Relic]:  check the widget downloads in the panel
[20:08] <lordievader> giantpune: Are you talking about the wifi or the lan card? Is there a mention of these in /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:09] <giantpune> i usually use wifi.  ive never even plugged in a lan cable to this computer
[20:10] <giantpune> something just happened, and the wifi came up without me doing anything.  i wonder if its going to make me wait at every boot now for 3 minutes :S
[20:14] <lordievader> giantpune: Can you check if there is something in /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:14] <[Relic]> sadly simple nvidia v2 is like 2x or 3x my tray size
[20:15] <giantpune> lordievader, i have an entry for "auto lo" and "auto eth0"
[20:16] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  I seem to have fixed it. :-)
[20:16] <lordievader> giantpune: That should be allright, you could try moving the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file to some other dir.
[20:16] <lordievader> giantpune: That solution fixes the problem for my VMs.
[20:17] <Gregor3000> well that's just great. SAFE updates messed up the computer
[20:17] <Gregor3000> come on!!!!
[20:17] <giantpune> hmm.  it happened again.  i sat around and waited a bit and it eventually it asked me for the password to kwallet.  once i give it that, the network stuff comes up.
[20:17] <Gregor3000> mouse is not working, keyboar dis different that it was set btu i came into KDE
[20:17] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog: good !
[20:18] <giantpune> so i think i need to tell it not to use kwallet for the wifi password stuff?
[20:18] <Gregor3000> how do i get to grub? i tried with shif but it ignores me
[20:18] <Gregor3000> shift
[20:19] <Gregor3000> any way to redo the updates? the only update it couldn't do was cromium security update.
[20:21] <BluesKaj> Gregor3000:  left shift immediately after the bios screen
[20:21] <lordievader> giantpune: If you use the kde network manager it automatically ties into kwallet, I think.
[20:22] <giantpune> yeah.  i think i had told it to store the password in an unencrypted file on my other laptop, which is why it doesnt hang at startup
[20:22] <Gregor3000> yes. it ignores me.
[20:22] <Gregor3000> now what?
[20:22] <Gregor3000> how do i redo updates or get to the older version?
[20:22] <BluesKaj> try nomodeset
[20:22] <giantpune> if you use encrypted storage you have to wait for kwallet and it slows down the whole bootup
[20:22] <BluesKaj> !nomodest
[20:22] <BluesKaj> oops
[20:23] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset
[20:23] <Gregor3000> nomodeset? why? it wasn't necessary before and i do get into KDE normally. i even get info about a new update and all. only mouse doesn't work. keyboard works, but is not the one i use but porbably default USA keyboard or something
[20:23] <Gregor3000> besides i can't get into grub
[20:24] <mikkle> Is it possible to move the trash folder off my home drive and to my secondary storage drive?
[20:24] <mikkle> my home folder is on a relatively small SSD, and sometimes I delete large amounts of data on my secondary drive which gets throw to my SSD
[20:25] <Gregor3000> mikkle i think if you delete with shift it doesn't go into trash but is deleted "completelly"
[20:25] <mikkle> Gregor, I know, but that's not what I want either
[20:26] <mikkle> I want a trash bin but just not on my SSD
[20:26] <[Relic]> any idea where the plasmoid stuff is stored maybe I can figure out how to resize this thing
[20:26] <mikkle> If I create a trash folder on my secondary drive and create a symlink in ~/.local/share/ to it, would that work?
[20:26] <mikkle> provided permissions are set properly?
[20:27] <mikkle> can someone confirm whether the trash is located in ~/.local/share/ ?
[20:27] <mikkle> (I have a tash folder there.)
[20:29] <Gregor3000> aha i got into older kernel now. so how do i remove the new one and reinstall/redo the updates?
[20:53] <jman074> hello everyone
[20:54] <jman074> i have a pid for a program that runs good but just shuts down randomly at will. is there a code to make it priority
[20:58] <lordievader> Hey jman074, how have you been?
[20:59] <lordievader> jman074: You can change it's nice level, but if the program segfaults there is not much you can do.
[21:00] <jman074> busier then ever with work and school.
[21:01] <jman074> im not sure what its doin it just shuts down at random. no error messages or anything
[21:01] <lordievader> jman074: What program are we talking about?
[21:02] <jman074> so how have you been
[21:03] <jman074> transmission bittorrent client
[21:08] <lordievader> jman074: I'm doing good ;). Do you run transmission in daemon mode? Anyhow with the -e flag you can specify a log file.
[21:09] <jman074> im still a little slow what do you mean daemon mode
[21:10] <lordievader> jman074: A daemon is some service that runs in the background (you don't see it running).
[21:12] <jman074> no i don't run it in that mode. umm when it shuts down i type top in the terminal and its not there
[21:14] <lordievader> jman074: Check the man-page for transmission to see what the log flag is. It is probably -e, can you check it this is correct. Also what command do you use to start transmission?
[21:16] <jman074> type man-page in terminal?
[21:17] <lordievader> jman074: man transmission* (*not literally transmission* I don't know what the command is...)
[21:18] <lordievader> Use tab, that will autocomplete
[21:20] <jman074> there is an icon i use to open it on the desktop
[21:21] <lordievader> jman074: Ok, what command does the icon use? ;)
[21:24] <jman074> yeh nothings workin
[21:24] <jman074> wait got it
[21:24] <jman074> now what am i looking for
[21:24] <jman074> i don't see log flag
[21:24] <FloodBotK1> jman074: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:25] <lordievader> jman074: What is the command?
[21:29] <jman074> man transmission-gtk
[21:31] <jman074> internet is actin slow on moment
[21:35] <lordievader> jman074: You are probably running transmission :P
[21:39] <lordievader> Welcome back, jman074
[21:42] <jman074> crazy computer
[21:42] <jman074> lol
[21:43] <cahir> :)
[21:43] <jman074> did you get that link
[21:43] <jman074> ?
[21:43] <lordievader> jman074: Nope, guess not.
[21:44] <jman074> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653524/
[21:45] <lordievader> Well that's usefull -.-
[21:46] <jman074> booger
[21:46] <jman074> lol
[21:46] <jman074> hold on
[21:46] <jman074> sorry
[21:46] <lordievader> jman074: This might work though, for logging I mean: "transmission-gtk >> /var/log/transmission.log"
[21:47] <jman074> permission denied
[21:48] <jman074> i even typed sudo in front of it
[21:48] <lordievader> jman074: Thought that would happen. "sudo touch /var/log/transmission.log; sudo chmod 777 /var/log/transmission.log" and then the afore mentioned command again.
[21:51] <jman074> when i type the command  nothing happens
[21:53] <lordievader> jman074: Correct, nothing should happen. First you make an empty file, second you make it writable to all. And then you start transmission while piping all the console output to the file you've just created. You might want to use "transmission-gtk >> /var/log/transmission.log&" though <- the & puts it in the background.
[21:55] <jman074> o0o. so now instead of runnin the file like i have been type the for mentioned line and it will run
[21:55] <lordievader> jman074: With "tail -f /var/log/transmission.log" you can see what is logged.
[21:55] <lordievader> Hopefully something usefull is logged...
[21:56] <lordievader> Yes, the idea is that it runs with some logging, and hopefully usefull. So that when it crashes you can take a look at the log and perhaps see what the error is.
[21:56] <jman074> sweet
[21:57] <jman074> im curious now.
[21:57] <lordievader> jman074: With "tail -f /var/log/transmission.log" you can see what is logged.
[21:57] <jman074> lol
[21:58] <jman074> nothin yet
[21:58] <jman074> lol
[21:58] <lordievader> jman074: Hmm, empty file?
[21:59] <jman074> no result when typed
[21:59] <lordievader> jman074: Does "cat /var/log/transmission.log" show anything? You are running transmission right?
[21:59] <jman074> correct
[22:01] <jman074> no result
[22:02] <lordievader> jman074: Hmm, I guess transmission doesn't output anything then...
[22:03] <jman074> thats whats wierd when it closes thats it no lagging or anything no error messages
[22:05] <lordievader> jman074: In the console you mean?
[22:07] <lordievader> Bbl.
[22:11] <k1ck-soee> omfg :/ how can i logout from this stupid ubunut one client and login on differet account ?
[22:12] <jman074> by disabling the account
[22:13] <jman074> but you should be able to open multiple accounts at once
[22:14] <soee> jman074, how can i disable account
[22:16] <jman074> what program are you using to log into it
[22:16] <soee> ubuntu one client
[22:16] <jman074> one sec
[22:20] <jman074> what happens when you click disconnect in account infor
[22:21] <soee> jman074, ok i finally logout
[22:21] <soee> dont know why but last hoour i couldnt
[22:21] <jman074> k
[23:03] <Bradley24> How does one configure KDE/Kubuntu so that by using a hot-key or a mouse click the window manager cascades all the windows on that desktop?
[23:04] <mimmo> ciaooo
[23:05] <Soru_> Bradley24: Add the "show desktop" plasmoid to the system tray and configure it with for example, alt + D
[23:28] <SebastianM> what could be the reason,  why some chars like ^ do not work?
[23:29] <SebastianM> the program "xev" gives out ^ when typing it
[23:29] <SebastianM> but no other program gives it out
[23:59] <Soru_> I don't know... Someone can help SebastianM?