[04:49] <darkxst> atrus, maybe the black screen is fixed now?
[04:52] <Ponch0> hey guys I'm having 1 issue and 1 question, one when I'm trying to update through software updater, it crashes or rather just stops updating halfway through
[04:52] <Ponch0> and 2 when I shut down I see a message pop up that says -- root broadcast unknown -- something to that effect, what does that mean?
[04:53] <darkxst> file a bug against software updater, we don't touch that
[04:53] <darkxst> I have no idea, but wouldnt worry to much about the message
[04:59] <Ponch0> allright, thank you.
[04:59] <Ponch0> is there a way to update the available updates through terminal?
[05:04] <darkxst> Ponch0, 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade'
[05:04] <darkxst> or use synaptic if you want a GUI for it
[05:05] <Ponch0> darkxt: thanks I just tried to do it through terminal and am getting some messages... E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:05] <Ponch0> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[05:06] <darkxst> software updater must still be running? or USC?
[05:06] <Ponch0> nope software updater crashed, but I guess it's somewhere in the background
[05:06] <darkxst> 'killall update-manager;
[05:07] <darkxst> oh that might not work, since its a python script
[05:07] <Ponch0> yeah it didn't I guess I should restart, and just run it through terminal.
[05:08] <Ponch0> before trying software updater
[05:08] <darkxst> just kill it!
[05:08] <darkxst> ps ax | grep update-manager
[05:08] <darkxst> kill -9 <first number on previous line>
[05:09] <Ponch0> ps ax - 4271 pts/3    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto update-manager
[05:09] <darkxst>  kill -9 4271
[05:10] <Ponch0> thank u !
[05:10] <Ponch0> bash: kill: (4271) - No such process
[05:11] <darkxst> hmm its already kill'ed then
[05:11] <darkxst> oh that like was not really update-manager running, it was the grep command
[05:11] <Ponch0> ok apt-get update works I guess one of the previous lines worked even tho they all kicked back an error
[05:13] <Ponch0> and sudo apt-get upgrade gave me this - The following packages have been kept back: gvfs-common.
[05:14] <darkxst> the upgrade dependency resolver is very conservative
[05:15] <Ponch0> ok awesome ran software updater and it worked, came back saying my computer is up to date, thanks for the help.
[05:16] <Ponch0> let me try ubuntu to see if anyone knows about this root message.
[05:18] <Ponch0> darkxt - you're the man btw! but one last question, how do I check which display manager I'm using?
[05:20] <darkxst> ps ax | grep gdm
[05:21] <darkxst> if you get a whole bunch of output you are running gdm
[05:21] <darkxst> otherwise probably lightdm
[05:21] <darkxst> if you installed from ubuntu gnome images then you will be using gdm
[05:22] <Ponch0> a bunch of gdm messages popped up in red so I guess it's that one
[05:22] <darkxst> yeh, gdm is a grey thing, that looks just like the shell lock screen
[05:25] <Ponch0> yup that's it, the reason I asked is because the updates that were freezing up, were trying to update lightdm, i'm curious if it had somehting to do with that.
[05:33] <darkxst> no shouldn't, they can peacefully co-exist at the same time
[05:33] <darkxst> just only one can be actually active
[05:35] <Ponch0> Ok, also I have UFW on, and I have logs with a lot of blocked TCP OUT messages, it's set to default.  Is that normal?
[05:36] <darkxst> would have thought it only blocks IN by default
[05:37] <Ponch0> [UFW BLOCK] IN=wlan0 OUT=
[05:37] <darkxst> but not really sure what 'default' consists of!
[05:37] <Ponch0> haha ok
[05:37] <Ponch0> I think you're right about the IN, would be default block
[05:38] <Ponch0> are there any security apps recommended with min to no config I should have in gnome?
[05:54] <Ponch0> so I looked up a random IP from the OUT block list --- www.amazon.com
[05:55] <Ponch0> so amazon is trying to pull my info
[06:11] <darkxst> hmm, unity uses amazon search by default, but that doesnt exist in shell
[06:12] <darkxst> Ponch0, if you are behind a NAT'ed router, then you don't really need any security apps
[06:12] <darkxst> if your machine is connected directly to the internet, then yes run a firewall
[06:13] <darkxst> ufw should be fine
[06:18] <Ponch0> I'm not really tech savvy but one of the IP addresses is this website and it has something to do with DDoS? and i'm confused as to why
[06:18] <Ponch0> that
[06:18] <Ponch0> their website http://www.sharktech.net/
[06:22] <darkxst> is your machine connected directly to the internet? or via a router
[06:23] <Ponch0> router.
[06:24] <darkxst> so a ddos would take down your router pretty quickly, but wont affect your computer unless you have DMZ or uPnp enabled
[06:25] <darkxst> but even still consumer routers don't really handle lots of connections well, so it will most likely just crash
[06:25] <Ponch0> um ok? but i don't think they ddos, i think they protect from it, from what I understand so I'm not sure why they're in the logs
[06:26] <darkxst> Ponch0, possibly they had ads somehwere?
[06:26] <Ponch0> aah friggin ads!
[06:26] <Ponch0> that's right!
[06:26] <Ponch0> I have adblock on mozilla
[06:28] <Ponch0> i'm paranoid lol thanks for dealing with me
[06:31] <Ponch0> have a good night/day
[08:12] <darkxst> ricotz, changed your mind on spidermonkey in the ppa yet?
[08:19] <darkxst> we have an official js17 tarball and a stable gjs-js17 branch ;)
[08:39] <ricotz> darkxst, i see, it will still need a custom gjs-js17 tarball, but i guess this would be fine with the benefits we gain with it
[18:06] <dupondje> Empathy works for somebody ?