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balloonschilicuil, ping17:45
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balloonschilicuil, ping18:44
chilicuilballoons: good morning, pong18:45
balloons:-) So, I saw the new gwibber stuff -- what's the status on everything?18:46
chilicuilI'd say gwibber have serious shortcomings and shouldn't be deployed in ubuntu raring18:48
balloonsI saw you removed the stuff.. so it should be good to go then yes?18:48
balloonsI mean as far as the testcase for the new qml gwibber18:48
chilicuilabout the testcase, yes, I removed the parts which didnt apply anymore, however probably will apply again in the future18:49
balloonschilicuil, ahh. I saw folks having trouble getting it installed18:49
balloonsI'm trying to finish tracking down what's up with my unity before adding another ppa in the mix ;)18:49
chilicuilballoons: yeah, it has some problems there too, I had to kill friends-service a couple of times before being able to work with it18:50
chilicuiland after using it to setup 1 account, I had to reset my vm to the latest stable snapshot to test with another, the delete / add again account have some problems too18:51
balloonsdid you talk to ken about it18:52
balloons?18:52
chilicuilyep, I send him the logs18:53
balloonsk -- time to see for myself :-)18:54
balloonshmm..  seem to already have it18:55
balloonschilicuil, how did you get it to launch?18:56
* balloons wonders if the daily is much better18:57
chilicuilballoons: by terminal, $ gwibber18:57
balloonsyea.. odd..because I have the old gwibber still18:58
balloonshence I assumed I hadn't installed this.. but i did?18:58
chilicuilballoons: which launch it but on blank (it wont start the UOA), so you'll need to start it manually, feed your social account details and restart gwibber, if it doesnt work, kill friends-service and gwibber and launch them both18:58
balloonsok, I think it might be good now.. i'ts pulling qt stuff18:59
chilicuilyeah, that's the newest one18:59
balloonsheh.. ok, launched to the blank timeline view18:59
balloonsok.. looks like it' s loaded19:01
balloonscool19:01
balloonsI lost my context menu now tho19:02
balloonsdo you get one?19:02
balloonschilicuil, thanks for looking into this.. I like the new look of the client, but there are some usability issues I'm seeing as well19:04
chilicuilballoons: no, there's no context menu, at least not for me19:05
balloonsI had one before the timeline actually loaded19:05
balloonswith prefs, update status, etc19:05
balloonsgone now though19:05
chilicuilthe context menu is the one with the 'email' icon at the top of the screen?, next to the calendar?19:06
balloonschilicuil, I'm talking about right clicking the icon on the launcher and getting a menu19:09
balloonsI see gwibber in the messasging indicator19:09
balloonsthe envelope indicator yes19:09
chilicuilballoons: ohh!, I didn't check it and I don't have my testing machine at hand19:11
balloonschilicuil, no worries.. I just asked because i had one19:12
balloonsthen it was gone19:12
balloonsor maybe I'm just crazy19:12
chilicuil=P19:14
Noskcajsomething wierd happened to testdrive. it now shows 2 instances of every iso19:41
balloonsthomi, when your about.. ping :-)19:41
balloonsNoskcaj, hello!19:41
Noskcajhey19:41
balloonsNoskcaj, actually since you and chilicuil are here, let's chat about something19:42
thomiballoons: I'm about, what's up?19:42
Noskcajif anyone want's to help with the Xubuntu magazine articles, the testing one is here http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-articles-testing19:43
balloonsso, Noskcaj and chilicuil and whomever else :-) I was thinking of hosting an iso testing event next week for final beta19:44
Noskcajsounds good19:45
balloonsinitial thoughts? I was planning to do a livestream and some other things19:45
balloonsdrafting a mail on it now, but what would you like to see? how would you do it and what would be helpful?19:45
Noskcaja livestream or call in google hangouts, fixes to testdrive, make sure the email goes to lubuntu-qa, xubuntu devel  and kubuntu devel19:46
Noskcajwe could have a permanant google hangout actually, that would be useful19:49
balloonsNoskcaj, a permanant g hangout?19:50
balloonsas in just hop in anytime or?19:50
balloonsNoskcaj, actually.. there is something we could try for this19:50
balloonsbetter than g hangout19:50
balloonsNoskcaj, yes I'd love to get the flavor folks in this too19:51
Noskcaji'll look around, i don't think so, maybe skype, till we get DDOSers19:51
balloonsNoskcaj, http://conversat.io/ubuntuquality19:51
Noskcajwith G hanouts you get 10 people, plus live streaming. and will would need a test run this week ideally19:51
balloonswhen you join that page, your in a hangout19:51
balloonsusing html5 :-)19:51
balloonsso anyways, options :-)19:53
Noskcajnice idea, but only six people, and it has no text AFAIK19:53
balloonsright.. well text would be irc19:53
balloonsfinally, there's screenleap..19:53
balloonsI've used that successfully in the past.. anyways19:54
balloonsso besides the hangout, what else?19:54
Noskcajballoons, with text i meant text in that chat, which most things like hangouts have.19:55
balloonshello Letozaf_19:55
Letozaf_balloons, Hi19:56
balloonswe're chatting about having an iso testing event next week for final beta19:56
Letozaf_balloons, oh great! a good idea to get everyone into testing :D19:56
Letozaf_balloons, what were you thinking of ?19:57
balloonsbasically doing a hangout, streaming some live testing19:57
balloonsgetting flavors more invovled as well, so those folks come and hangout19:57
Letozaf_balloons, sounds good at what time ?19:57
balloonsin general, I'd like to try and get more people to come try it out, and for us to be on hand to help..19:58
balloonstiming is a good question. I'd like to do it early in the week, so there's no craziness about finishing up on time, etc19:58
Noskcajone other thing, can we get remote VMs similar to the "Ubuntu tour" on the ubuntu website19:58
Letozaf_balloons, Monday is Easter Monday20:00
Letozaf_balloons, so maybe Tuesday or Wednesday would be better20:01
Letozaf_Noskcaj, Hey!20:01
Noskcajhello Letozaf_20:01
Letozaf_Noskcaj, :D20:01
Noskcaji agree, aim for tuesday or wednesday for the actual event, but a test some time soon20:01
balloonsNoskcaj, hmm.. remote vm's?20:02
Noskcajballoons, it would probably be too hard, just a suggestion20:03
balloonsthere's some security issues with giving access to a remote vm to a stranger20:03
Noskcajtrue.20:03
balloonsbut I like the idea.. of course, since we want them to learn to test, in this case it may not help us much directly with image testing20:04
Noskcajalso, if anyone DDOSes the hangout, i will hunt them down20:04
balloonspackage testing with a vm (remote or not)  makes more sense20:04
balloonsanyways, ok, so let's say Tuesday then.. What time?20:04
Letozaf_balloons, good question :) by your experience when are there more people around ?20:06
Noskcajballoons, for the hangout? we could leave it running all day, use it to help people join the QA team20:06
NoskcajLetozaf_, any time i'm not20:06
balloonsLetozaf_, I feel like 1800-2100 UTC is a good time..20:06
balloonsalso in the morning, like 800-1100 UTC20:06
Letozaf_balloons, yes sounds good, also for me, I mean the evening one20:07
balloonsNoskcaj, is 800-1100 UTC possible for you?20:07
Letozaf_balloons, or as Noskcaj said it could be a goog idea to leave it running all day20:07
balloonsLetozaf_, I'm thinking I'd like to get specfic folks to commit to be around during  a specific time window20:08
Noskcajballoons, no, that's 8pm for me, and parents say no to that late20:08
balloonswe can leave it on all day certainly..20:08
balloonsso this time 1800-2100 utc is probably best for you20:08
balloonsk.. well smartboyhw would do best with the early time.. we'll see who else can be around20:09
balloonsI could catch the end of it20:09
balloonsallowing me to do "both"20:09
Noskcajif it's tuesday i can do 6am-8am my time, if it's wednesday i can be on in the afternoon too20:10
Noskcajactually it would be, timezone screwup on my part20:10
balloonsNoskcaj, :-)20:10
balloonsyea.. like an afternoon, then the next morning again :-)20:11
Noskcaji've invited balloons Letozaf_ and phillw to a test hangout, just to see if you can join20:11
balloonsso 0800 UTC - 1200 UTC and 1800 UTC - 2200 UTC?20:12
balloonsthat's 2 four hours time blocks20:13
Letozaf_balloons, for me ok 18-22 UTC20:13
balloonsNoskcaj, looks like it works :-)20:15
Letozaf_balloons, Noskcaj I am quite shy on Hangouts :D20:16
balloonsNoskcaj, so you can still screenshare if needed20:16
balloonsLetozaf_, you too :-) you wouldn't have to broadcast your face if you didn't wish20:16
Letozaf_balloons, true :D20:17
balloonsok, i'll draft the mail now to the list20:22
balloonsthanks for your input :-)20:22
Letozaf_balloons, I must say that I really love Raring, it's really nice20:34
Letozaf_balloons, the more I use it the more I like it20:34
balloonsI'm glad :-) me too actually20:34
balloonsthings really are starting to gel20:35
balloonsamazing what a design will get you20:35
balloonswant to see something cool?20:35
Letozaf_balloons, sure20:35
balloonsit's a little small sadly, but you'll get the picture20:37
* balloons notes pun intended20:37
balloonshttp://imgur.com/NPZbr9y20:37
Noskcajsorry, my internet dropped out20:38
balloonsNoskcaj, no worries.. I just got the mail off to the list20:38
Letozaf_balloons, wow looks like everything has got a good trend, except for for autopilot-test :(20:39
balloonswe're growing! I'm going to send a mail around about this stuff.. I'm working on the stuff (finally!) that we spoke about at UDS20:40
balloonsgetting good stats on what we do.. and then going after things like Noskcaj wants to know -- what needs tested (aka, testcases that haven't been run in a long time, etc)20:40
balloonsthis will all end up here soon I hope: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/20:41
Letozaf_balloons, good!20:41
Noskcaj:)20:42
Letozaf_balloons, with Smart Scopes is it ok that every now and then I get "No Image Avalable" ?20:54
balloonsLetozaf_, does the image sometimes show up?20:55
balloonsor does it just never show up..20:55
Letozaf_balloons, it happens when I preview something and then use the arrows to go forward and see other images20:57
Letozaf_balloons, no it never shows upd20:57
Letozaf_sorry up20:57
balloonsit probably just don't have an image then :-) Does the "no image" icon look ok?20:57
balloonsI think I remmeber seeing one20:57
balloonsexample search?20:57
Letozaf_I searched "raspberry pi"20:58
Letozaf_balloons, then clicked on the "more suggestions" cathegory20:59
balloonsi got 10 results, all with images20:59
balloonsyou?20:59
Letozaf_balloons, the 11th ?20:59
balloonsno.. what's the title?21:00
Letozaf_balloons, its in Italian :) "Contenitore per Raspberry PI bianco"21:00
Letozaf_balloons, if you click on the "no image" you get the web page correclty21:01
balloonsis it a book or what? at any rate, I get 10 results only21:02
balloonsweird21:03
balloonsbut my guess is that it is indeed a-ok21:03
Letozaf_balloons, ok21:03
Letozaf_balloons, its a case for the raspberry PI21:03
balloonsahh :-)21:03
Letozaf_balloons, I get 21 results21:03
Letozaf_balloons, in the More Suggestions cathegory21:04
Letozaf_balloons, 20 not 21 :D21:04
balloonsLetozaf_, well.. my scopes are kind of broken -- see my email to the list21:05
balloonsso might not be best to ask me anyway21:05
balloonshaha21:05
Letozaf_balloons, :D21:06
balloonsLetozaf_, hehe.  I'm missing the file I think.. ubuntu free software showcase21:40
Letozaf_balloons, :(21:41
balloonsohh.. ok no it's there21:41
balloonswhew.. so hmm21:41
Letozaf_balloons, good :)21:41
Letozaf_balloons, I chose that as I thought everyone would have them :)21:42
balloonsyes indeed21:42
balloonsi was confused by the error it gives21:42
balloonsi think i can fix this.. let's see :-)21:43
balloonswow -- it doesn't support you entering addresses21:44
balloonsthat's the problem21:44
Letozaf_balloons, yes! I was hoping there was a workaround I did not know of :(21:45
balloonsugh21:45
balloonsi think I can do something really hacky21:46
balloonsugh ugh21:46
Letozaf_balloons, lol21:47
balloonslet me edit21:47
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balloonsexcellent..21:50
Letozaf_balloons, did it work ?21:50
balloonstesting now21:51
* Letozaf_ is impatient to know :D21:52
balloonsit's not runningmy changes21:53
balloonsgrrr21:53
balloonsohh lol, wrong folder21:53
Letozaf_balloons, lol21:53
balloonshmm close21:55
balloonsso what i've doing is using a file in the home dir21:58
balloonsfinding it and adding it21:58
balloonsi make the file using a temp name21:58
Letozaf_balloons, yes, good idea, does it work ?21:59
balloonsit should :-)21:59
balloonssorry.. got to run now ;-(22:00
balloonsbut i'll commit what i have22:00
balloonshopefully working22:00
Letozaf_balloons, ok thanks22:01
phillwhi Noskcaj sorry, I didn't see the invite, been trying to get a complete n00b to be able to dual boot with win 7 and been bitten by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1061255 which is really scary for a n00b.23:57
ubot5Launchpad bug 1061255 in grub2 (Ubuntu Quantal) "GRUB recognizes defunct LDM headers" [Critical,In progress]23:57
Noskcajphillw, ok, it was just to check all of us could get into google hangouts, i assume you saw the conversation23:58
phillwno, I only just saw the ping on IRC, I've been in Fb chat most of the day :/23:59

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