[06:00] <pitti> Good morning
[07:34] <dholbach> good morning
[08:04] <jibel> good morning
[17:45] <balloons> chilicuil, ping
[18:44] <balloons> chilicuil, ping
[18:45] <chilicuil> balloons: good morning, pong
[18:46] <balloons> :-) So, I saw the new gwibber stuff -- what's the status on everything?
[18:48] <chilicuil> I'd say gwibber have serious shortcomings and shouldn't be deployed in ubuntu raring
[18:48] <balloons> I saw you removed the stuff.. so it should be good to go then yes?
[18:48] <balloons> I mean as far as the testcase for the new qml gwibber
[18:49] <chilicuil> about the testcase, yes, I removed the parts which didnt apply anymore, however probably will apply again in the future
[18:49] <balloons> chilicuil, ahh. I saw folks having trouble getting it installed
[18:49] <balloons> I'm trying to finish tracking down what's up with my unity before adding another ppa in the mix ;)
[18:50] <chilicuil> balloons: yeah, it has some problems there too, I had to kill friends-service a couple of times before being able to work with it
[18:51] <chilicuil> and after using it to setup 1 account, I had to reset my vm to the latest stable snapshot to test with another, the delete / add again account have some problems too
[18:52] <balloons> did you talk to ken about it
[18:52] <balloons> ?
[18:53] <chilicuil> yep, I send him the logs
[18:54] <balloons> k -- time to see for myself :-)
[18:55] <balloons> hmm..  seem to already have it
[18:56] <balloons> chilicuil, how did you get it to launch?
[18:57]  * balloons wonders if the daily is much better
[18:57] <chilicuil> balloons: by terminal, $ gwibber
[18:58] <balloons> yea.. odd..because I have the old gwibber still
[18:58] <balloons> hence I assumed I hadn't installed this.. but i did?
[18:58] <chilicuil> balloons: which launch it but on blank (it wont start the UOA), so you'll need to start it manually, feed your social account details and restart gwibber, if it doesnt work, kill friends-service and gwibber and launch them both
[18:59] <balloons> ok, I think it might be good now.. i'ts pulling qt stuff
[18:59] <chilicuil> yeah, that's the newest one
[18:59] <balloons> heh.. ok, launched to the blank timeline view
[19:01] <balloons> ok.. looks like it' s loaded
[19:01] <balloons> cool
[19:02] <balloons> I lost my context menu now tho
[19:02] <balloons> do you get one?
[19:04] <balloons> chilicuil, thanks for looking into this.. I like the new look of the client, but there are some usability issues I'm seeing as well
[19:05] <chilicuil> balloons: no, there's no context menu, at least not for me
[19:05] <balloons> I had one before the timeline actually loaded
[19:05] <balloons> with prefs, update status, etc
[19:05] <balloons> gone now though
[19:06] <chilicuil> the context menu is the one with the 'email' icon at the top of the screen?, next to the calendar?
[19:09] <balloons> chilicuil, I'm talking about right clicking the icon on the launcher and getting a menu
[19:09] <balloons> I see gwibber in the messasging indicator
[19:09] <balloons> the envelope indicator yes
[19:11] <chilicuil> balloons: ohh!, I didn't check it and I don't have my testing machine at hand
[19:12] <balloons> chilicuil, no worries.. I just asked because i had one
[19:12] <balloons> then it was gone
[19:12] <balloons> or maybe I'm just crazy
[19:14] <chilicuil> =P
[19:41] <Noskcaj> something wierd happened to testdrive. it now shows 2 instances of every iso
[19:41] <balloons> thomi, when your about.. ping :-)
[19:41] <balloons> Noskcaj, hello!
[19:41] <Noskcaj> hey
[19:42] <balloons> Noskcaj, actually since you and chilicuil are here, let's chat about something
[19:42] <thomi> balloons: I'm about, what's up?
[19:43] <Noskcaj> if anyone want's to help with the Xubuntu magazine articles, the testing one is here http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-articles-testing
[19:44] <balloons> so, Noskcaj and chilicuil and whomever else :-) I was thinking of hosting an iso testing event next week for final beta
[19:45] <Noskcaj> sounds good
[19:45] <balloons> initial thoughts? I was planning to do a livestream and some other things
[19:45] <balloons> drafting a mail on it now, but what would you like to see? how would you do it and what would be helpful?
[19:46] <Noskcaj> a livestream or call in google hangouts, fixes to testdrive, make sure the email goes to lubuntu-qa, xubuntu devel  and kubuntu devel
[19:49] <Noskcaj> we could have a permanant google hangout actually, that would be useful
[19:50] <balloons> Noskcaj, a permanant g hangout?
[19:50] <balloons> as in just hop in anytime or?
[19:50] <balloons> Noskcaj, actually.. there is something we could try for this
[19:50] <balloons> better than g hangout
[19:51] <balloons> Noskcaj, yes I'd love to get the flavor folks in this too
[19:51] <Noskcaj> i'll look around, i don't think so, maybe skype, till we get DDOSers
[19:51] <balloons> Noskcaj, http://conversat.io/ubuntuquality
[19:51] <Noskcaj> with G hanouts you get 10 people, plus live streaming. and will would need a test run this week ideally
[19:51] <balloons> when you join that page, your in a hangout
[19:51] <balloons> using html5 :-)
[19:53] <balloons> so anyways, options :-)
[19:53] <Noskcaj> nice idea, but only six people, and it has no text AFAIK
[19:53] <balloons> right.. well text would be irc
[19:53] <balloons> finally, there's screenleap..
[19:54] <balloons> I've used that successfully in the past.. anyways
[19:54] <balloons> so besides the hangout, what else?
[19:55] <Noskcaj> balloons, with text i meant text in that chat, which most things like hangouts have.
[19:55] <balloons> hello Letozaf_
[19:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, Hi
[19:56] <balloons> we're chatting about having an iso testing event next week for final beta
[19:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, oh great! a good idea to get everyone into testing :D
[19:57] <Letozaf_> balloons, what were you thinking of ?
[19:57] <balloons> basically doing a hangout, streaming some live testing
[19:57] <balloons> getting flavors more invovled as well, so those folks come and hangout
[19:57] <Letozaf_> balloons, sounds good at what time ?
[19:58] <balloons> in general, I'd like to try and get more people to come try it out, and for us to be on hand to help..
[19:58] <balloons> timing is a good question. I'd like to do it early in the week, so there's no craziness about finishing up on time, etc
[19:58] <Noskcaj> one other thing, can we get remote VMs similar to the "Ubuntu tour" on the ubuntu website
[20:00] <Letozaf_> balloons, Monday is Easter Monday
[20:01] <Letozaf_> balloons, so maybe Tuesday or Wednesday would be better
[20:01] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, Hey!
[20:01] <Noskcaj> hello Letozaf_
[20:01] <Letozaf_> Noskcaj, :D
[20:01] <Noskcaj> i agree, aim for tuesday or wednesday for the actual event, but a test some time soon
[20:02] <balloons> Noskcaj, hmm.. remote vm's?
[20:03] <Noskcaj> balloons, it would probably be too hard, just a suggestion
[20:03] <balloons> there's some security issues with giving access to a remote vm to a stranger
[20:03] <Noskcaj> true.
[20:04] <balloons> but I like the idea.. of course, since we want them to learn to test, in this case it may not help us much directly with image testing
[20:04] <Noskcaj> also, if anyone DDOSes the hangout, i will hunt them down
[20:04] <balloons> package testing with a vm (remote or not)  makes more sense
[20:04] <balloons> anyways, ok, so let's say Tuesday then.. What time?
[20:06] <Letozaf_> balloons, good question :) by your experience when are there more people around ?
[20:06] <Noskcaj> balloons, for the hangout? we could leave it running all day, use it to help people join the QA team
[20:06] <Noskcaj> Letozaf_, any time i'm not
[20:06] <balloons> Letozaf_, I feel like 1800-2100 UTC is a good time..
[20:06] <balloons> also in the morning, like 800-1100 UTC
[20:07] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes sounds good, also for me, I mean the evening one
[20:07] <balloons> Noskcaj, is 800-1100 UTC possible for you?
[20:07] <Letozaf_> balloons, or as Noskcaj said it could be a goog idea to leave it running all day
[20:08] <balloons> Letozaf_, I'm thinking I'd like to get specfic folks to commit to be around during  a specific time window
[20:08] <Noskcaj> balloons, no, that's 8pm for me, and parents say no to that late
[20:08] <balloons> we can leave it on all day certainly..
[20:08] <balloons> so this time 1800-2100 utc is probably best for you
[20:09] <balloons> k.. well smartboyhw would do best with the early time.. we'll see who else can be around
[20:09] <balloons> I could catch the end of it
[20:09] <balloons> allowing me to do "both"
[20:10] <Noskcaj> if it's tuesday i can do 6am-8am my time, if it's wednesday i can be on in the afternoon too
[20:10] <Noskcaj> actually it would be, timezone screwup on my part
[20:10] <balloons> Noskcaj, :-)
[20:11] <balloons> yea.. like an afternoon, then the next morning again :-)
[20:11] <Noskcaj> i've invited balloons Letozaf_ and phillw to a test hangout, just to see if you can join
[20:12] <balloons> so 0800 UTC - 1200 UTC and 1800 UTC - 2200 UTC?
[20:13] <balloons> that's 2 four hours time blocks
[20:13] <Letozaf_> balloons, for me ok 18-22 UTC
[20:15] <balloons> Noskcaj, looks like it works :-)
[20:16] <Letozaf_> balloons, Noskcaj I am quite shy on Hangouts :D
[20:16] <balloons> Noskcaj, so you can still screenshare if needed
[20:16] <balloons> Letozaf_, you too :-) you wouldn't have to broadcast your face if you didn't wish
[20:17] <Letozaf_> balloons, true :D
[20:22] <balloons> ok, i'll draft the mail now to the list
[20:22] <balloons> thanks for your input :-)
[20:34] <Letozaf_> balloons, I must say that I really love Raring, it's really nice
[20:34] <Letozaf_> balloons, the more I use it the more I like it
[20:34] <balloons> I'm glad :-) me too actually
[20:35] <balloons> things really are starting to gel
[20:35] <balloons> amazing what a design will get you
[20:35] <balloons> want to see something cool?
[20:35] <Letozaf_> balloons, sure
[20:37] <balloons> it's a little small sadly, but you'll get the picture
[20:37]  * balloons notes pun intended
[20:37] <balloons> http://imgur.com/NPZbr9y
[20:38] <Noskcaj> sorry, my internet dropped out
[20:38] <balloons> Noskcaj, no worries.. I just got the mail off to the list
[20:39] <Letozaf_> balloons, wow looks like everything has got a good trend, except for for autopilot-test :(
[20:40] <balloons> we're growing! I'm going to send a mail around about this stuff.. I'm working on the stuff (finally!) that we spoke about at UDS
[20:40] <balloons> getting good stats on what we do.. and then going after things like Noskcaj wants to know -- what needs tested (aka, testcases that haven't been run in a long time, etc)
[20:41] <balloons> this will all end up here soon I hope: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/
[20:41] <Letozaf_> balloons, good!
[20:42] <Noskcaj> :)
[20:54] <Letozaf_> balloons, with Smart Scopes is it ok that every now and then I get "No Image Avalable" ?
[20:55] <balloons> Letozaf_, does the image sometimes show up?
[20:55] <balloons> or does it just never show up..
[20:57] <Letozaf_> balloons, it happens when I preview something and then use the arrows to go forward and see other images
[20:57] <Letozaf_> balloons, no it never shows upd
[20:57] <Letozaf_> sorry up
[20:57] <balloons> it probably just don't have an image then :-) Does the "no image" icon look ok?
[20:57] <balloons> I think I remmeber seeing one
[20:57] <balloons> example search?
[20:58] <Letozaf_> I searched "raspberry pi"
[20:59] <Letozaf_> balloons, then clicked on the "more suggestions" cathegory
[20:59] <balloons> i got 10 results, all with images
[20:59] <balloons> you?
[20:59] <Letozaf_> balloons, the 11th ?
[21:00] <balloons> no.. what's the title?
[21:00] <Letozaf_> balloons, its in Italian :) "Contenitore per Raspberry PI bianco"
[21:01] <Letozaf_> balloons, if you click on the "no image" you get the web page correclty
[21:02] <balloons> is it a book or what? at any rate, I get 10 results only
[21:03] <balloons> weird
[21:03] <balloons> but my guess is that it is indeed a-ok
[21:03] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[21:03] <Letozaf_> balloons, its a case for the raspberry PI
[21:03] <balloons> ahh :-)
[21:03] <Letozaf_> balloons, I get 21 results
[21:04] <Letozaf_> balloons, in the More Suggestions cathegory
[21:04] <Letozaf_> balloons, 20 not 21 :D
[21:05] <balloons> Letozaf_, well.. my scopes are kind of broken -- see my email to the list
[21:05] <balloons> so might not be best to ask me anyway
[21:05] <balloons> haha
[21:06] <Letozaf_> balloons, :D
[21:40] <balloons> Letozaf_, hehe.  I'm missing the file I think.. ubuntu free software showcase
[21:41] <Letozaf_> balloons, :(
[21:41] <balloons> ohh.. ok no it's there
[21:41] <balloons> whew.. so hmm
[21:41] <Letozaf_> balloons, good :)
[21:42] <Letozaf_> balloons, I chose that as I thought everyone would have them :)
[21:42] <balloons> yes indeed
[21:42] <balloons> i was confused by the error it gives
[21:43] <balloons> i think i can fix this.. let's see :-)
[21:44] <balloons> wow -- it doesn't support you entering addresses
[21:44] <balloons> that's the problem
[21:45] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes! I was hoping there was a workaround I did not know of :(
[21:45] <balloons> ugh
[21:46] <balloons> i think I can do something really hacky
[21:46] <balloons> ugh ugh
[21:47] <Letozaf_> balloons, lol
[21:47] <balloons> let me edit
[21:50] <balloons> excellent..
[21:50] <Letozaf_> balloons, did it work ?
[21:51] <balloons> testing now
[21:52]  * Letozaf_ is impatient to know :D
[21:53] <balloons> it's not runningmy changes
[21:53] <balloons> grrr
[21:53] <balloons> ohh lol, wrong folder
[21:53] <Letozaf_> balloons, lol
[21:55] <balloons> hmm close
[21:58] <balloons> so what i've doing is using a file in the home dir
[21:58] <balloons> finding it and adding it
[21:58] <balloons> i make the file using a temp name
[21:59] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes, good idea, does it work ?
[21:59] <balloons> it should :-)
[22:00] <balloons> sorry.. got to run now ;-(
[22:00] <balloons> but i'll commit what i have
[22:00] <balloons> hopefully working
[22:01] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok thanks
[23:57] <phillw> hi Noskcaj sorry, I didn't see the invite, been trying to get a complete n00b to be able to dual boot with win 7 and been bitten by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1061255 which is really scary for a n00b.
[23:58] <Noskcaj> phillw, ok, it was just to check all of us could get into google hangouts, i assume you saw the conversation
[23:59] <phillw> no, I only just saw the ping on IRC, I've been in Fb chat most of the day :/