[13:52] <melodie> hi
[13:53] <pdurbin> good morning
[13:53] <melodie> hello pdurbin good morning to you (utc +1 here, it's almost 3 pm)
[13:54] <melodie> pdurbin I have finally done the presentation of the ubuntu openbox remix
[13:54] <melodie> I want to announce it everywhere so more people can test, and perhaps offer to participate for what is left to do
[13:54] <melodie> Bento2 an Ubuntu Openbox Remix - http://beta.linuxvillage.net/index.php/topic,248.msg1704.html#new
[13:55] <melodie> :)
[13:56] <pdurbin> cool
[13:57] <melodie> have you read it already ?
[13:57] <pdurbin> skimmed it :)
[13:57] <melodie> ok
[13:59] <melodie> the main thing with this version is to have a version even lighter, but yet still easy to go for anyone
[13:59] <melodie> and easy to use to build another custom version also
[14:03] <pdurbin> light is good
[14:10] <melodie> it allows having all the resource for apps, which is what I really prefer, over lots of gui features which are not always really needed
[14:11] <pdurbin> I stay in the command line as much as possible :)
[14:14] <melodie> openbox also allows configuring many shortcuts, for lots of things. I don't use them too much but some have a real talent for that
[14:15] <melodie> even tiling is possible
[14:15] <pdurbin> I've heard good things about tiling window managers. I just use the stock GNOME 3 from Fedora
[14:16] <melodie> ok
[14:16] <melodie> is that pytile ?
[14:16] <melodie> maybe not...
[14:17] <pdurbin> hmm, dunno
[14:18] <melodie> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pytile
[14:20] <pdurbin> I think that's different than whatever GNOME 3 uses
[14:20] <melodie> ok
[14:22] <pdurbin> I haven't been very adventurous about using anything but GNOME
[14:26] <melodie> if you have 4 or 5 gb available you could try bento2 ideally in Virtualbox
[14:26] <melodie> it has the guest packages for it
[14:29] <pdurbin> yum. i love virtual box. and vagrant. do you have a vagrant base box for your distro?
[14:30] <melodie> first time I hear about vagrant : is it a kind of virtual system ?
[14:30] <pdurbin> this is me trying to explain vagrant: http://wiki.greptilian.com/vagrant
[14:38] <melodie> I look at the pages from your links
[14:38] <melodie> invoking "yaourt vagrant" in archlinux
[14:38] <pdurbin> it's hard to explain what vagrant is. does it make sense?
[14:38] <melodie> 2 aur/vagrant 1.1.4-1 (35)
[14:39] <melodie>   Tool for building and distributing virtualized development environments
[14:39] <melodie>  aur/vagrant-vbguest 0.6.4-1 (5)
[14:39] <melodie>  a plugin which automatically installs the host's VirtualBox Guest
[14:39] <melodie>     Additions on the guest system.
[14:41] <pdurbin> sounds accurate
[14:42] <melodie> I'll install them and if I understand anything I will show it to my companion
[14:43] <melodie> he might have some interest for it
[14:43] <melodie> pdurbin what about this one ?
[14:43] <melodie> 1 aur/ruby-sahara 0.0.11-2 (2)
[14:43] <melodie>     Tool for sandboxing vagrant images
[14:44] <pdurbin> sahara is great for taking snapshots, experimenting with something crazy, and then rolling back to the snapshot if something goes terribly wrong
[14:45] <melodie> ok
[14:46] <melodie> I would have to get used to the idea, and start trying when I'll have a free moment
[14:48] <pdurbin> it took me a while to understand the value of vagrant
[14:49] <melodie> I have been doing iso remixed for several years, so I think I could value it very much
[14:50] <pdurbin> the world needs more builders of vagrant base boxes :)
[14:50] <melodie> for the other types of developments I don't quite see, because I don't code, and I think my companion uses HG (mercurial ?)
[14:50] <melodie> I don't know yet what the base box can be
[14:50] <melodie> nor how you build it
[14:51] <melodie> would you register at LinuxVillage forum to make a speech there about it ? we have a few people who are quite keen with tecnics
[14:51] <pdurbin> if you make a base box for your distro you could list it here: A list of base boxes for Vagrant - Vagrantbox.es - http://www.vagrantbox.es
[14:51] <melodie> I would not make a base box from a distro which is not yet finished
[14:52] <melodie> it lacks the paintings and curtains yet. :)
[14:52] <pdurbin> heh
[14:53] <pdurbin> hmm, I'm not a big fan of forums but you are welcome to post something and link back to this conversation: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/03/27/%23ubuntu-women-project.html
[14:56] <melodie> could you give me the link to the part where you started talking about vagrant ?
[14:56] <melodie> the linuxvillage forum people already know about ubuntu openbox remixes...
[14:57] <pdurbin> I think you just have to wait for the log bot to catch up
[14:57] <melodie> oh I see
[14:58] <melodie> however a direct discussion between you and the members of the forum would have been more interesting
[14:58] <melodie> there are people from different parts of the world there
[14:59] <melodie> US, Australia, Quebec... and many more
[15:00] <pdurbin> I do like that you're building a global community
[15:02] <melodie> so do we :)
[15:02] <pdurbin> do you have a mailing list too?
[15:04] <melodie> no we don't. we don't need one and don't have time for that
[15:05] <melodie> what we are looking forward to will be a dokuwiki which should be setup by one of our members soon, and we have a chan
[15:05] <melodie> #linuxvillage on freenode as well
[15:06] <pdurbin> oh, cool. is #linuxvillage logged?
[15:06] <melodie> not that I know
[15:06] <melodie> how do you log a chan ?
[15:06] <pdurbin> like this: https://github.com/dvn/iqirclog-vagrant
[15:06] <melodie> we have #old-world as well
[15:07] <melodie> pdurbin I am unable to use what you have just shown me, not the level, or not the time, or both
[15:08] <melodie> but feel free to come at #linuxvillage and #old-world, and if you find it nice you can log  both
[15:08] <pdurbin> ok. no worries. you asked... ;)
[15:09] <pdurbin> #crimsonfu is logged for free by this nice person: http://perlgeek.de/blog-en/perl-6/an-offer-to-the-perl-community.html ... I suspect he'd log your channel for free too
[15:09] <melodie> yes I did, just I had fancied something such as three easy steps :)
[15:10] <melodie> that would be nice
[15:11] <melodie> pdurbin I might ask them some time, that seems not difficult
[15:12] <melodie> pdurbin I quit the chans a little, have some things to do
[15:12] <melodie> have a nice day!
[15:12] <pdurbin> he's very nice. (moritz)
[15:12] <melodie> ok, thank you very much
[15:12] <pdurbin> sure