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Kiloswhy arent you all asleep yet00:32
Kilosmorning superfly  and others06:32
Kiloshi jrgns  fones dont swim06:34
Kiloshi Vince-0   got some research for you06:34
jrgnshi Kilos :) damn, wish I knew that before I threw mine in the pool!06:34
Kiloslol what have you done with it06:34
jrgnsit's bonding with some rice06:35
Kiloscan help you try fix it 06:35
jrgnsthnx06:35
jrgnsi suspect the plastic cover I had prevented too much water coming in06:35
Kilosdid you try turn it on06:35
jrgnsso I'm letting it dry out in the rice for a couple of days, and then assess the damage06:35
jrgnsyes, once, to make some urgent calls. the screen was working, but a bit eratic06:36
jrgnsthe rest seems fine.06:36
Kiloseek06:36
jrgnsin the mean time i've resurrected my htc desire06:36
Kilosfirst thing with wet fone is remove battery. moisture causes short circuits on the pc board06:36
jrgnsyeah, did that. only turned it on after a couple of hours in the rice06:37
Kilosanyway you might be lucky06:37
jrgnsi'm hoping to be, thanx06:37
Kilosok then you gotta open the covers and you will see where moisture has got to on the board06:37
Kilosif you seriously want to save it get to an electronics shop and buy some servisol or spanjaardt lubricating switch cleaner06:39
Kilosthen strip the fone so you get to all sides of circuitry and plugin holes06:39
Kilosspray with cleaner everywhere except on glass and stand upright for excess to drip off06:40
Kiloseven put in sun for coupla hours then you can reassemble and use again06:41
Kilosrice is food06:41
Kilosgood luck06:41
Kilosyou gotta do it quick before the fone grows gills and fins06:42
Kilosjrgns: ^^06:44
Kilosit should be perfect after that06:45
jrgnslol06:47
jrgnsthanx for the advice06:47
Kilosyw06:50
plustwogood morning everyone06:51
plustwohi oom Kilos06:52
Kiloshi plustwo  hows things06:52
plustwogood and kwl, some cold and flu06:52
plustwohow do you do?06:52
Kilosai!06:52
Kilosnice to see you back here. thought you had got a lurker virus06:53
Symmetriaerrr06:53
Kilosim ok ty06:53
Symmetriaif Im right06:53
Symmetriainternet today is gonna get REAL slow 06:53
Kilosoh my even worse Symmetria  06:53
plustwono, my 8ta disconnected me the other day. all good now06:54
Kiloshow they doing with undersea cables?06:54
Symmetriakilos another one just died06:57
Kilosoh my goodness Symmetria  06:58
Kilosthats not good.06:59
KilosVince-0: got some info here about telkom and 8ta stuffs maybe you can get your parents wireless with an outside aerial07:14
KilosMaaz: 8ta07:14
MaazKilos: 8ta is http://telkommobile.mobi/about-us/07:14
Kiloshi henk07:14
Kilossaw somewhere they can get up to 30ks with line of site07:15
Kilospeeps should look into telkom wireless they have hotspots everywhere07:16
Kilosinetpro: you should get wireless too methinks07:17
Kilosthey got a few hotspots that side of the mountain07:17
Kilosbut only in town on my side07:18
Kilossigh07:18
Vince-0Hi Kilos, will check it out07:19
Kilosthe whole south coast has hotspot dotted all the way down07:20
Kilosthey show hotspots on a map but i can zoom it enough to see them separately07:22
Kilosthere are also the names of the businesses that do it07:22
superflymorning Kilos07:27
Kiloslo superfly  07:27
Kilosjust the wifi hardware is costly. . around R170008:09
inetprogood morning08:27
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Kilosmorning inetpro  08:27
Kiloshi Trixar_za  08:28
Trixar_zaHey Kilos08:28
Trixar_zaGot an sms yesterday from Telkom Mobile saying they'll be moving services over.08:28
Trixar_zaSo I guess it's true08:28
Kilosyeah i got it too08:28
* inetpro happy to see jrgns getting good advice from Kilos08:28
Kilosstarted me looking at their wireless stuff08:29
jrgnsmorning inetpro08:29
inetprojrgns: I hope your phone will be ok08:29
jrgnsthanx08:29
Kilosthe important thing is always remove battery asap and strip to dry. amazing how quick water starts the corrosion on pc board and sockets08:30
Kilosinetpro: when loafing look at http://telkommobile.mobi/about-us/08:31
Kilosi got there from the link in the sms08:31
inetproKilos: no such wifi at my place08:32
inetprothe only wifi I can see at home is my own 08:32
Kilosya thats where money comes in08:33
Kiloswith the equipment from ptawug guys you will reach the towers on that side im sure08:33
Kilosbut R1700 is eina'08:34
Squirm-hmm08:38
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Kiloshi Squirm  08:41
Kilosmorning is the right word08:42
ThatGraemeGuymorning all08:42
Kiloshmm is a zeref thing08:42
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy  08:42
Squirmhello08:47
KilosSquirm: are you home for your leave08:58
Kilos?08:58
Kiloswinterton08:58
Squirmyeah :/08:58
Squirmbeen back since Saturday08:58
Squirmbut splashyfen tomorrow :D08:59
Kilosyou going to splash inna dam?08:59
Squirmyou don't know splashy?08:59
Squirmand you lived down this way08:59
Kilossplashy?09:00
Squirmit's a big music festival held right outside of Underberg09:00
Kilosai in my time woodstock was a music festival. dont think we had them here09:00
Kilosall we did near underburg was bike and fish for trout09:03
Vince-0Hippie rain fest more like it09:06
Kiloshehe09:06
Vince-0although @ R600 a ticket some of the riff-raff might not be able to afford it09:07
Vince-015mm+ rain on Saturday. I think I might spend my money more wisely09:07
SquirmVince-0: book early enough and you get R40009:24
Squirm:)09:24
Kiloshi psyatw  09:43
psyatwhi Kilos 09:44
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Trixar_zaInteresting10:16
Trixar_zaKilos: I figured out why the newer devices doesn't work Sakis3g10:16
Trixar_zaThey lack DefaultVendor, DefaultProduct and CheckSuccess10:16
Trixar_zaWhy they are important still escapes me since the database building script ignores them10:16
Kiloswell done Trixar_za  what is it?10:23
Kilosoh ok10:23
Kilosweird hey10:23
Kiloswould be so much easier if on could just use gparted and make the usb storage in the modems not be seen10:24
Kiloseven be able to delete that partition would be good10:24
Kilosor format it to some fs that nothing use10:27
Kilosuses10:27
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Kilosdid you miss that Trix[a]r_za  ?10:29
KilosVince-0: you can read up on how to check if there is line of site there too 10:42
Kiloshttp://ptawug.co.za/site/gettingstarted/10:43
Vince-0yep10:50
Vince-0checked out growing the durban WUG more up the north side but I live in a valley, no LOS10:51
Kilosaw10:58
Kilossame here mountains both sides of where they seem to have hotspots10:59
Kiloshi theblazehen  11:37
Vince-0anyone listen to this ZA tech show?11:38
theblazehenhi kilos11:39
inetproVince-0: I have listened to it from time to time11:48
inetproif there was more time I'd listen more regularly11:49
Vince-0last one was 7 days ago, 11:50
Vince-0My review: meh11:51
SymmetriaSEACOM can confirm that at 06:20 GMT 27 March, the SMW4 cable system suffered a cable cut off the coast of Egypt. Earlier this morning, SEACOM had restored all services on both SMW4 and IMEWE cable systems.11:51
inetproSymmetria: eish!11:52
inetprovandalism?11:53
Symmetriainetpro *IF* any of this is deliberate, which I doubt, then its not vandalism, its terrorism11:53
Symmetriayou cant just vandalize a cable like this, you would need significant resources to deliberately take out a cable (where as accidents do happen)11:54
inetproright11:54
Vince-0suux11:55
Vince-0I switched to Openweb/IS and my international games are good again11:55
inetproKilos: how's tara?11:56
Kiloshavent heard yet inetpro  11:57
Kilosty for the info Symmetria  11:58
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Trixar_zaKilos: Been re-building the files that are different or got updated13:11
Trixar_zaI may have missed one or two. Still got 57 files to go13:12
Trixar_za:/13:12
Kiloswhe13:12
Kiloswhew too13:12
Trixar_zahttp://pastebin.ca/234343413:14
Trixar_zaWhen I'm done, that should be the list of supported devices13:14
Trixar_zaAlthough I still need people to compile the binary version for 64bit and ARM systems13:14
Trixar_zaOh well :P13:14
Kilossjoe13:16
* Trixar_za gets lazy14:52
Trixar_zaStill 27 files to go14:52
Trixar_zaI've done 40 of them already14:52
zerefI'm starting to learn about wicket (java web framework) anybody have experience with it.14:59
Kiloswhew Vince-0  that wireless is major work15:30
Kiloseasier to make buddies with 8ta15:30
Vince-0hi! yes indeed. 15:30
Vince-0I can do it with some cheap ubiquity equipment15:30
Kiloslol did you read what all is involved15:30
Kiloswow15:30
Kilosspecial router and radio and what not15:31
Vince-0yep - will do a site test next time I'm there15:31
Vince-0there are a few providers that use it but businesses should really know better 15:31
Vince-0and use licensed spectrum15:31
Trixar_zaCome on me, don't be lazy. Only 8 more to go...15:36
Squirmhello15:40
inetproTrixar_za: what are you doing?15:47
Trixar_zaRebuilding the 67 changed files from the usb-modeswitch-database so it can work with sakis3g15:48
Trixar_zaGiving us a grand total of 273 devices15:49
Trixar_za:P15:49
Kilosenergetic fella15:52
inetproTrixar_za: and will that feed back into the ubuntu repositories?15:52
inetproKilos: is your device listed?15:53
Kiloswell kde sees it as tct mobile15:54
Trixar_zaProbably not. It works perfectly fine with usb-modeswitch, but sakis3g's internal stuff required a bit more if the binary and database was included with (and compressed within) it.15:54
Kilosits an older alcatel15:54
Trixar_zaSo I just used the last database that worked well (before the change over to the new, more concise variables)15:54
Trixar_zaand then expanded the newer files to have the same format as the older database15:55
Trixar_zaSo the newer files should work with Sakis3g now15:55
inetproTrixar_za: who are you doing this for?15:56
inetprojust for yourself?15:56
Trixar_zaMyself mostly since sakis3g is pretty dead. There are a handful of people that use my copy like Kilos and the SliTaz Linux people that use my sakis3g package.15:57
Kilosand kbmonkey15:57
inetprofrom PPA?15:57
Kilospeeps who have probs with nm15:57
Trixar_zaThe usb_modeswitch don't really care and I'm not sure the others like ArchLinux would care :P15:58
Trixar_zausb_modeswitch people*15:59
inetprohmm...16:01
inetproTrixar_za: well done anyway16:01
inetproperhaps you should write up a blog and tell us how you're doing it16:01
* Kilos seconds that16:01
Trixar_zaProbably16:04
Trixar_za:P16:04
Trixar_zaSeems there is support for some LTE modems too16:06
Trixar_zaWhich is nice16:06
magespawnevening all16:33
Cantidehello~16:34
Kiloshi magespawn  Cantide  17:27
Cantidehello~17:31
Kilosnight all. sleep tight17:35
inetprosjoe he went to sleep early18:03
inetprohope he's ok18:03
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magespawninetpro maybe he had a busy day18:56
magespawnnight all19:50
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Squirmhi23:54
Squirmnevermind23:54

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