[00:32] <Kilos> why arent you all asleep yet
[06:32] <Kilos> morning superfly  and others
[06:34] <Kilos> hi jrgns  fones dont swim
[06:34] <Kilos> hi Vince-0   got some research for you
[06:34] <jrgns> hi Kilos :) damn, wish I knew that before I threw mine in the pool!
[06:34] <Kilos> lol what have you done with it
[06:35] <jrgns> it's bonding with some rice
[06:35] <Kilos> can help you try fix it 
[06:35] <jrgns> thnx
[06:35] <jrgns> i suspect the plastic cover I had prevented too much water coming in
[06:35] <Kilos> did you try turn it on
[06:35] <jrgns> so I'm letting it dry out in the rice for a couple of days, and then assess the damage
[06:36] <jrgns> yes, once, to make some urgent calls. the screen was working, but a bit eratic
[06:36] <jrgns> the rest seems fine.
[06:36] <Kilos> eek
[06:36] <jrgns> in the mean time i've resurrected my htc desire
[06:36] <Kilos> first thing with wet fone is remove battery. moisture causes short circuits on the pc board
[06:37] <jrgns> yeah, did that. only turned it on after a couple of hours in the rice
[06:37] <Kilos> anyway you might be lucky
[06:37] <jrgns> i'm hoping to be, thanx
[06:37] <Kilos> ok then you gotta open the covers and you will see where moisture has got to on the board
[06:39] <Kilos> if you seriously want to save it get to an electronics shop and buy some servisol or spanjaardt lubricating switch cleaner
[06:39] <Kilos> then strip the fone so you get to all sides of circuitry and plugin holes
[06:40] <Kilos> spray with cleaner everywhere except on glass and stand upright for excess to drip off
[06:41] <Kilos> even put in sun for coupla hours then you can reassemble and use again
[06:41] <Kilos> rice is food
[06:41] <Kilos> good luck
[06:42] <Kilos> you gotta do it quick before the fone grows gills and fins
[06:44] <Kilos> jrgns: ^^
[06:45] <Kilos> it should be perfect after that
[06:47] <jrgns> lol
[06:47] <jrgns> thanx for the advice
[06:50] <Kilos> yw
[06:51] <plustwo> good morning everyone
[06:52] <plustwo> hi oom Kilos
[06:52] <Kilos> hi plustwo  hows things
[06:52] <plustwo> good and kwl, some cold and flu
[06:52] <plustwo> how do you do?
[06:52] <Kilos> ai!
[06:53] <Kilos> nice to see you back here. thought you had got a lurker virus
[06:53] <Symmetria> errr
[06:53] <Kilos> im ok ty
[06:53] <Symmetria> if Im right
[06:53] <Symmetria> internet today is gonna get REAL slow 
[06:53] <Kilos> oh my even worse Symmetria  
[06:54] <plustwo> no, my 8ta disconnected me the other day. all good now
[06:54] <Kilos> how they doing with undersea cables?
[06:57] <Symmetria> kilos another one just died
[06:58] <Kilos> oh my goodness Symmetria  
[06:59] <Kilos> thats not good.
[07:14] <Kilos> Vince-0: got some info here about telkom and 8ta stuffs maybe you can get your parents wireless with an outside aerial
[07:14] <Kilos> Maaz: 8ta
[07:14] <Maaz> Kilos: 8ta is http://telkommobile.mobi/about-us/
[07:14] <Kilos> hi henk
[07:15] <Kilos> saw somewhere they can get up to 30ks with line of site
[07:16] <Kilos> peeps should look into telkom wireless they have hotspots everywhere
[07:17] <Kilos> inetpro: you should get wireless too methinks
[07:17] <Kilos> they got a few hotspots that side of the mountain
[07:18] <Kilos> but only in town on my side
[07:18] <Kilos> sigh
[07:19] <Vince-0> Hi Kilos, will check it out
[07:20] <Kilos> the whole south coast has hotspot dotted all the way down
[07:22] <Kilos> they show hotspots on a map but i can zoom it enough to see them separately
[07:22] <Kilos> there are also the names of the businesses that do it
[07:27] <superfly> morning Kilos
[07:27] <Kilos> lo superfly  
[08:09] <Kilos> just the wifi hardware is costly. . around R1700
[08:27] <inetpro> good morning
[08:27] <Kilos> morning inetpro  
[08:28] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za  
[08:28] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[08:28] <Trixar_za> Got an sms yesterday from Telkom Mobile saying they'll be moving services over.
[08:28] <Trixar_za> So I guess it's true
[08:28] <Kilos> yeah i got it too
[08:28]  * inetpro happy to see jrgns getting good advice from Kilos
[08:29] <Kilos> started me looking at their wireless stuff
[08:29] <jrgns> morning inetpro
[08:29] <inetpro> jrgns: I hope your phone will be ok
[08:29] <jrgns> thanx
[08:30] <Kilos> the important thing is always remove battery asap and strip to dry. amazing how quick water starts the corrosion on pc board and sockets
[08:31] <Kilos> inetpro: when loafing look at http://telkommobile.mobi/about-us/
[08:31] <Kilos> i got there from the link in the sms
[08:32] <inetpro> Kilos: no such wifi at my place
[08:32] <inetpro> the only wifi I can see at home is my own 
[08:33] <Kilos> ya thats where money comes in
[08:33] <Kilos> with the equipment from ptawug guys you will reach the towers on that side im sure
[08:34] <Kilos> but R1700 is eina'
[08:38] <Squirm-> hmm
[08:41] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[08:42] <Kilos> morning is the right word
[08:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[08:42] <Kilos> hmm is a zeref thing
[08:42] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[08:47] <Squirm> hello
[08:58] <Kilos> Squirm: are you home for your leave
[08:58] <Kilos> ?
[08:58] <Kilos> winterton
[08:58] <Squirm> yeah :/
[08:58] <Squirm> been back since Saturday
[08:59] <Squirm> but splashyfen tomorrow :D
[08:59] <Kilos> you going to splash inna dam?
[08:59] <Squirm> you don't know splashy?
[08:59] <Squirm> and you lived down this way
[09:00] <Kilos> splashy?
[09:00] <Squirm> it's a big music festival held right outside of Underberg
[09:00] <Kilos> ai in my time woodstock was a music festival. dont think we had them here
[09:03] <Kilos> all we did near underburg was bike and fish for trout
[09:06] <Vince-0> Hippie rain fest more like it
[09:06] <Kilos> hehe
[09:07] <Vince-0> although @ R600 a ticket some of the riff-raff might not be able to afford it
[09:07] <Vince-0> 15mm+ rain on Saturday. I think I might spend my money more wisely
[09:24] <Squirm> Vince-0: book early enough and you get R400
[09:24] <Squirm> :)
[09:43] <Kilos> hi psyatw  
[09:44] <psyatw> hi Kilos 
[10:16] <Trixar_za> Interesting
[10:16] <Trixar_za> Kilos: I figured out why the newer devices doesn't work Sakis3g
[10:16] <Trixar_za> They lack DefaultVendor, DefaultProduct and CheckSuccess
[10:16] <Trixar_za> Why they are important still escapes me since the database building script ignores them
[10:23] <Kilos> well done Trixar_za  what is it?
[10:23] <Kilos> oh ok
[10:23] <Kilos> weird hey
[10:24] <Kilos> would be so much easier if on could just use gparted and make the usb storage in the modems not be seen
[10:24] <Kilos> even be able to delete that partition would be good
[10:27] <Kilos> or format it to some fs that nothing use
[10:27] <Kilos> uses
[10:29] <Kilos> did you miss that Trix[a]r_za  ?
[10:42] <Kilos> Vince-0: you can read up on how to check if there is line of site there too 
[10:43] <Kilos> http://ptawug.co.za/site/gettingstarted/
[10:50] <Vince-0> yep
[10:51] <Vince-0> checked out growing the durban WUG more up the north side but I live in a valley, no LOS
[10:58] <Kilos> aw
[10:59] <Kilos> same here mountains both sides of where they seem to have hotspots
[11:37] <Kilos> hi theblazehen  
[11:38] <Vince-0> anyone listen to this ZA tech show?
[11:39] <theblazehen> hi kilos
[11:48] <inetpro> Vince-0: I have listened to it from time to time
[11:49] <inetpro> if there was more time I'd listen more regularly
[11:50] <Vince-0> last one was 7 days ago, 
[11:51] <Vince-0> My review: meh
[11:51] <Symmetria> SEACOM can confirm that at 06:20 GMT 27 March, the SMW4 cable system suffered a cable cut off the coast of Egypt. Earlier this morning, SEACOM had restored all services on both SMW4 and IMEWE cable systems.
[11:52] <inetpro> Symmetria: eish!
[11:53] <inetpro> vandalism?
[11:53] <Symmetria> inetpro *IF* any of this is deliberate, which I doubt, then its not vandalism, its terrorism
[11:54] <Symmetria> you cant just vandalize a cable like this, you would need significant resources to deliberately take out a cable (where as accidents do happen)
[11:54] <inetpro> right
[11:55] <Vince-0> suux
[11:55] <Vince-0> I switched to Openweb/IS and my international games are good again
[11:56] <inetpro> Kilos: how's tara?
[11:57] <Kilos> havent heard yet inetpro  
[11:58] <Kilos> ty for the info Symmetria  
[13:11] <Trixar_za> Kilos: Been re-building the files that are different or got updated
[13:12] <Trixar_za> I may have missed one or two. Still got 57 files to go
[13:12] <Trixar_za> :/
[13:12] <Kilos> whe
[13:12] <Kilos> whew too
[13:14] <Trixar_za> http://pastebin.ca/2343434
[13:14] <Trixar_za> When I'm done, that should be the list of supported devices
[13:14] <Trixar_za> Although I still need people to compile the binary version for 64bit and ARM systems
[13:14] <Trixar_za> Oh well :P
[13:16] <Kilos> sjoe
[14:52]  * Trixar_za gets lazy
[14:52] <Trixar_za> Still 27 files to go
[14:52] <Trixar_za> I've done 40 of them already
[14:59] <zeref> I'm starting to learn about wicket (java web framework) anybody have experience with it.
[15:30] <Kilos> whew Vince-0  that wireless is major work
[15:30] <Kilos> easier to make buddies with 8ta
[15:30] <Vince-0> hi! yes indeed. 
[15:30] <Vince-0> I can do it with some cheap ubiquity equipment
[15:30] <Kilos> lol did you read what all is involved
[15:30] <Kilos> wow
[15:31] <Kilos> special router and radio and what not
[15:31] <Vince-0> yep - will do a site test next time I'm there
[15:31] <Vince-0> there are a few providers that use it but businesses should really know better 
[15:31] <Vince-0> and use licensed spectrum
[15:36] <Trixar_za> Come on me, don't be lazy. Only 8 more to go...
[15:40] <Squirm> hello
[15:47] <inetpro> Trixar_za: what are you doing?
[15:48] <Trixar_za> Rebuilding the 67 changed files from the usb-modeswitch-database so it can work with sakis3g
[15:49] <Trixar_za> Giving us a grand total of 273 devices
[15:49] <Trixar_za> :P
[15:52] <Kilos> energetic fella
[15:52] <inetpro> Trixar_za: and will that feed back into the ubuntu repositories?
[15:53] <inetpro> Kilos: is your device listed?
[15:54] <Kilos> well kde sees it as tct mobile
[15:54] <Trixar_za> Probably not. It works perfectly fine with usb-modeswitch, but sakis3g's internal stuff required a bit more if the binary and database was included with (and compressed within) it.
[15:54] <Kilos> its an older alcatel
[15:54] <Trixar_za> So I just used the last database that worked well (before the change over to the new, more concise variables)
[15:55] <Trixar_za> and then expanded the newer files to have the same format as the older database
[15:55] <Trixar_za> So the newer files should work with Sakis3g now
[15:56] <inetpro> Trixar_za: who are you doing this for?
[15:56] <inetpro> just for yourself?
[15:57] <Trixar_za> Myself mostly since sakis3g is pretty dead. There are a handful of people that use my copy like Kilos and the SliTaz Linux people that use my sakis3g package.
[15:57] <Kilos> and kbmonkey
[15:57] <inetpro> from PPA?
[15:57] <Kilos> peeps who have probs with nm
[15:58] <Trixar_za> The usb_modeswitch don't really care and I'm not sure the others like ArchLinux would care :P
[15:59] <Trixar_za> usb_modeswitch people*
[16:01] <inetpro> hmm...
[16:01] <inetpro> Trixar_za: well done anyway
[16:01] <inetpro> perhaps you should write up a blog and tell us how you're doing it
[16:01]  * Kilos seconds that
[16:04] <Trixar_za> Probably
[16:04] <Trixar_za> :P
[16:06] <Trixar_za> Seems there is support for some LTE modems too
[16:06] <Trixar_za> Which is nice
[16:33] <magespawn> evening all
[16:34] <Cantide> hello~
[17:27] <Kilos> hi magespawn  Cantide  
[17:31] <Cantide> hello~
[17:35] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:03] <inetpro> sjoe he went to sleep early
[18:03] <inetpro> hope he's ok
[18:56] <magespawn> inetpro maybe he had a busy day
[19:50] <magespawn> night all
[23:54] <Squirm> hi
[23:54] <Squirm> nevermind