[00:15] <goodtime> what seem to be the matter Soru_
[00:15] <goodtime> what seem to be the matter Soru_
[00:15] <goodtime> who needs help
[00:40] <Soru___> goodtime: Sorry!
[00:40] <Soru___> Nothing
[00:40] <Soru___> Thank you!
[02:31] <m_tadeu> hi...my micrphone is not working
[06:25] <fuzzwaltz> Hello, flash video plugin installed, but in place of video is a black box, any ideas to fix? please
[08:42] <GahteredPain2> Hi.. anyone experienced with KDE/KDM and Fingerprint-Readers?
[09:41] <Guest6550> any ideas why my laptop won't shut down? It hands on the "Power off." message
[09:41] <Guest6550> hangs*
[09:44] <murthy> Guest6550: no disk activity when it hangs?
[09:45] <Guest6550> murthy: no nothing, it just stands there, not even ctrl alt del works, i have to turn it off manually
[09:46] <Guest6550> murthy: it's the same in ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu and opensuse 12.1, 2 and 3. have no idea where to look anymore
[09:48] <murthy> Guest6550: there is a way to turn it off safely, instead of doing it manually. you can press alt+printscreen+s and then press alt+printscreen+b, this will write all the data to the disk and restart the computer, this way its a bit safe
[09:48] <murthy> Guest6550: about the problem,
[09:49] <murthy> Guest6550: whats your kde version and kubuntu version?
[09:49] <Guest6550> murthy: kubuntu is freshly installed 12.04 and updated to the max (no outside repos)
[09:50] <Guest6550> and kde is i guess 4.8
[09:51] <murthy> Guest6550: can you try something?
[09:52] <Guest6550> murthy: i can try whatever, the laptop is freshyl installed and not even for me, so
[09:52] <murthy> Guest6550: goto settings-> power management
[09:53] <murthy> Guest6550: is there a column on the left?
[09:53] <Guest6550> yup
[09:54] <murthy> Guest6550: is there an item called energy savings?
[09:54] <Guest6550> yes
[09:55] <murthy> Guest6550: on the right what option is set for"when power button is pressed"?
[09:55] <Guest6550> it's set to show the dialog window
[09:56] <murthy> Guest6550: change it to shutdown
[09:56] <murthy> Guest6550: then press apply button
[09:56] <Guest6550> ok
[09:57] <Guest6550> so, i press it now? :D
[09:57] <murthy> Guest6550: ya :)
[09:57] <Guest6550> ok, see you in a while
[09:59] <mb___> murthy: nope, it froze again
[10:00] <murthy> mb___: so did you close the irc window before you pressed the power button?
[10:01] <mb___> i don't think i did lol, but that shouldn't be an issue? i mean, there is now way i can ensure that the man who will inherit this computer will do so every time
[10:03] <murthy> mb___: i asked because your previous nick closed the connection, that happens when the client is closed, so my guess is that some process is blocking the shutdown process. when the system hangs can you open a tty?
[10:04] <mb___> murthy: no, after it hangs i can't do a thing, if i open it beforehand, it just states that the eth0 interface is down and hangs on a message "Power off."
[10:05] <murthy> mb___: no keyboard response in tty?
[10:05] <mb___> murthy: this is the last thing in the log before the new boot: 28.03.2013. 10:59:11	mb-MTC	rsyslogd-2039	Could not open output pipe '/dev/xconsole' [try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2039 ]
[10:06] <mb___> murthy: no, absolutely nothing
[10:07] <murthy> mb___: is there a harddisk indicator led in laptop?
[10:07] <mb___> murthy: yesw
[10:09] <murthy> mb___: when the system hangs, press "alt+printscreen+s"   and see if the harddisk led for activity, if there is activity  everytime you press the key combination then the kernel hasn't crashed
[10:09] <mb___> murthy ok, on it
[10:12] <mb___> murthy: nope, no activity at all
[10:12] <murthy> mb___: what is the kernel version?
[10:13] <mb___> 3.2.0-39-generic-pae
[10:15] <mb___> murthy: most forums i googled up said it's an "acpi" problem, but i've tried all possible settings and nothing helped
[10:15] <murthy> mb___: do you have a live cd with any other kernel version? livecds of ubuntu 12.10 or 13.04  would be better
[10:15] <mb___> well, yesterday i had the same issue with opensuse 12.3, and it has 3.5 or 3.7,  not sure
[10:16] <murthy> mb___: have you tried the grub acpi options?
[10:16] <mb___> tried with "off" and "force"
[10:17] <mimmo> aiuto
[10:19] <murthy> mb___: can you try using the this command in tty "sudo shutdown -h now" ?
[10:19] <mb___> murthy: sure, but i think i tried it before, or some variation
[10:19] <mb___> brb
[10:25] <mb___> murthy: froze as before
[10:26] <murthy> mb___: you tried all the acpi options in the bios?
[10:27] <mb___> this laptop has a ridiculously small number of bios options, only boot order and time/date, nothing related to acpi
[10:27] <murthy> mb___: give me the laptop model number
[10:29] <mb___> murthy: good luck with that, it's a Forcebook 8258i
[10:31] <murthy> mb___: can you paste the kernel log? use paste.kde.org
[10:32] <mb___> sure, just a sec
[10:33] <mb___> http://paste.kde.org/711074/
[10:34] <murthy> checking
[10:36] <murthy> mb___: from where did you get this log?
[10:37] <mb___> from the kde log viewer
[10:37] <mb___> kernel section
[10:37] <murthy> mb___: paste the file /var/log/kern.log
[10:37] <mb___> k
[10:41] <idiot> hello
[10:41] <idiot> May i ask a question?
[10:42] <mb___> just a sec, rekonq is acting up
[10:42] <moar> ok
[10:43] <moar> i just wonder if kubuntu malfunctions well with kernel 3.2.40-grse
[10:43] <moar> also i'd like to know if it's more suitable for gnome or kde or that depends on the reason i use the box for?
[10:43] <mb___> murthy: http://paste.kde.org/711080/
[10:43] <mb___> murthy: looks the same as the last one tho, on first glance
[10:49] <murthy> mb___: i am checking the log, can you wait?
[10:50] <murthy> mb___: i think i found something
[10:51] <mb___> k, what? :D
[10:54] <murthy> mb___: From the log i can see that a nepomuk service segfaults, i am wondering if that can block the shutdown process
[10:54] <mb___> maybe it can, but xubuntu and opensuse don't have nepomuk :/ i'm pretty sure it's a deeper problem
[10:55] <murthy> mb___: ya, at least we have a clue
[10:56] <mb___> or do we :D
[11:03] <_droid> hi people, i have isntalled kubuntu. now I'am a former windows user and I use thunderbird as my default mail client which i do also today. Now when I want to click onto a link that is mentioned in an email for example,  it asks me with what application do I want to open it. Now since I'm new with kubuntu, how do I tell thunderbird to use my firefox?
[11:04] <murthy> mb___:  it says the system is using legacy suspend/resume methods that might be a cause, you need to check the bios settings.
[11:04] <mb___> there is nothing in the bios concerning that :/
[11:07] <murthy> mb___: that is very strange
[11:07] <murthy> _droid: do you get a dialog to select the program?
[11:08] <mb___> murthy: well, it's a crappy laptop, to say the least
[11:09] <murthy> mb___: I doubt that you are not doing the right thing to get the bios settings and my guess is you are seeing one part of the bios settings and not the actual full one
[11:10] <mb___> murthy: well, i can assure you that it's the whole thing
[11:10] <murthy> mb___: some bios settings can be accessed thought an app provided by the company from the OS
[11:12] <murthy> _droid: to select firefox, select /usr/bin/firefox file
[11:13] <mb___> murthy: it's really not the case, it is a croatian made laptop from chinese parts, with little or no documentation. i feel silly just typing this
[11:14] <murthy> mb___: other operating systems work well?
[11:14] <mb___> windows xp shut down well, haven't tried the rest
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:22] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[14:42] <ovidiu-florin> hello lordievader
[14:42] <lordievader> Hey ovidiu-florin, how are you?
[14:42] <ovidiu-florin> at work...
[14:43] <ovidiu-florin> tech support this week...
[14:43] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: You were the one where the pc froze right? Did it freeze today?
[14:43] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: how about you?
[14:43] <ovidiu-florin> I've changed the video driver and left it on Xrander over night
[14:43] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: I'm doing good ;)
[14:43] <ovidiu-florin> I'll try OpenGL again tonight
[14:44] <ovidiu-florin> after I finish my shift
[14:44] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: It didn't freeze today? With the Xrender?
[14:44] <ovidiu-florin> no it did not
[14:45] <lordievader> Hmm, ok. That is interesting.
[14:45] <ovidiu-florin> I suspect it was because the driver was unstable, and I had to change my video card a few weeks ago
[14:45] <ovidiu-florin> and after I've changed it I did not reinstall / install other driver
[14:47] <lordievader> That might very well be the problem.
[14:47] <ovidiu-florin> I thought it was weird.... since my other computers did not manifest this problem
[14:47] <lordievader> Each computer is different.
[14:48] <ovidiu-florin> Yes but I allways use the Nvidia current updates driver
[14:54] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: thank you for your help yesterday
[14:57] <lordievader> No problem, ovidiu-florin ;)
[15:02] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin:  I did exactly the same as you changing nvidia cards without changing the driver and I had some frezes , until reinsatlling the driver, then OpenGL and Native settings in desktop effects worked as they should
[15:03] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: thank you for your confirmation
[15:04] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin:  np , I had a 7600gt which died , so I replaced it with a 8400gs (good enough for my needs)
[15:06] <ovidiu-florin> I have no ideea what I had and what I have... (don't really care - this is the work computer) the fan stopped on the old one so I had to change it.
[15:06] <BluesKaj> right
[15:10] <BluesKaj> this pc is my media server for our audio/video system so it's important to keep running, altho the pc itself is 5yrs old now
[15:20] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: is it connected to a TV? or just as a file server?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin:  both the TV and Audio Receiver with the soundcard feeding the spdif signal ,  and DVI to HDMI on the TV
[15:26] <ovidiu-florin> I'm also interested in doing something like that. could you please tell me more about your system?
[15:26] <ovidiu-florin> How did you set it up?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> my computer graphics card feeds the DVI(HDMI) video to the hdmi tv input , the soundcard digital out or spdif sends the audio to a digital to analog converter (DAC) input on my audio home theater receiver
[15:29] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin: ^
[15:32] <BluesKaj> some ppl who don't use a separate audio system from their tv can just feed the hdmi from the graphics card to the tv ,( hdmi also carries the digtal audio to the tv)
[15:32] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin: ^
[15:36] <ovidiu-florin> How do you set up the video card to also send audio to the HDMI? I have a video board with 2 DVI outputs and I'm using a standard HDMI cable with an DVI to HDMI converter.
[15:37] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: ^
[15:39] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin:  it depends on the graphics card , some DVI to hdmi will carry the audio signal if you enable the spdif ( digital audio out)
[15:39] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: that means that the video card also has spdif ?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> enable spdif on the soundcard
[15:40] <ovidiu-florin> I'll come back to this once I'm in front of the mentioned computer
[15:40] <ovidiu-florin> this saturday most likely
[15:41] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj:  thank you
[15:41] <BluesKaj> hdmi looks for the digital audio by default afaik, hdmi can't carry an analog audio signal and shouldn't
[15:42] <BluesKaj> ok , i should be around on Sat morning , thatwould be afternoon in europe :)
[15:46] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin:  you're welcome :)
[17:38] <gregor3000> I can'r install chromium update. previous attempt on updates crashed my mouse and changed keyboard to default it also seems as though the sound is gone
[17:39] <gregor3000> it says error
[17:39] <gregor3000> ; short read on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb running ./usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser
[17:40] <lordievader> gregor3000: How are you updating chromium? Through apt-get?
[17:42] <gregor3000> i went via muon. when i tried to install alsamixer i ofund out thta some updates (such as new kernel) actually never installed and were then installed along wiht alsamixer. however chromium still refuses to instal
[17:42] <gregor3000> it didn't work with apt get
[17:42] <lordievader> gregor3000: What has apt-get to say about the issue?
[17:42] <gregor3000> would you like me to do it and give error report?
[17:43] <lordievader> Yes, please try to update with apt-get and pastebin the output.
[17:43] <gregor3000> ok got the sound to work now
[17:43] <gregor3000> hold on.... i iam typing this form my netbook
[17:47] <gregor3000> that would be me....
[17:49] <gregor3001> and thi sis the apt-get process: http://pastebin.com/TSFPR9QA
[17:49] <gregor3001> i mean upgrade
[17:49] <gregor3001> note apt-get -f install didn't help. i tried before
[17:50] <lordievader> Hmm pastebin.com doesn't seem to load. Could you upload it to paste.kde.org, gregor3000?
[17:52] <gregor3001> http://paste.kde.org/711314/
[17:55] <lordievader> gregor3000: Cleaning the archive might fix this "apt-get autoclean" should do this, verify that /var/cache/apt/archives is empty. Also you sould fix your sources.list file.
[17:55] <gregor3001> yeah i know. getdeb and playdeb are "dead" unless i move to mirror
[18:02] <gregor3001> apt/archives has 258 files and a partial directory (after autoclean command). can i /should i delete all these files?
[18:03] <lordievader> gregor3000: Yes, especially the chromium ones ;)
[18:10] <gregor3001> FINALLY!!!!! just one more thing if PPA is not existing anymore can i simply remove it from sources and no harm (and not updates) done?
[18:10] <gregor3001> no updates
[18:11] <lordievader> gregor3001: Ppa-purge is a better idea to remove a ppa. Restores the packages that are installed through the ppa.
[18:12] <gregor3001> ok i will check the coumentaion on ppa pruge. thank you for now....
[18:12] <lordievader> No problem, glad I could help. :)
[19:25] <DavEd3464> hey
[19:27] <SonikkuAmerica> (Hi! /quit)
[19:29] <Guest62384> hi
[19:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Hey wolf, welcome to Kubuntu community support!
[19:35] <Guest62384> hello
[19:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Yo
[19:35] <Guest62384> catala, español france?
[19:36] <Guest62384> tor?
[19:36] <Guest62384> freenet?
[19:36] <SonikkuAmerica> !es | Guest62384
[19:36] <SonikkuAmerica> !fr | Guest62384
[19:37] <BluesKaj> Guest62384:  do you have a question ?
[19:37] <Guest62384> buenas SonikkuAmerica
[19:38] <Guest62384> como desactivar, activar comodamente  en entorno grafico i facilmente el proxy freenet
[19:38] <Guest62384> gracias
[19:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest62384: Escribe Ud. [ /join #ubuntu-es ] en su area de charla y presione Ud. ENTER (intro).
[19:39] <BluesKaj> Guest62384:   /join #ubuntu-es
[20:28] <foobArrr> some non-kde programs don't display the correct icons on buttons: eg gnome disks ( http://i.imagebanana.com/img/24nuwv0c/Selection_004.png ) or shutter ( http://i.imagebanana.com/img/bswpn4g9/shutter.png ). am I missing some package with icons? I installed gnome-icon-theme*, but that didn't fix it.
[20:29] <SonikkuAmerica> I think it's an inconsistency problem, but I dunno how to fix it
[21:29] <KDG-MACKDE> what is the keyboard for closeing windows on kUbuntu ? (command+W)
[21:30] <lordievader> KDG-MACKDE: Alt + F4?
[21:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah, Alt + F4 last I checked
[21:31] <KDG-MACKDE> it do force closed?
[21:33] <KDG-MACKDE> thanks:)
[21:33] <lordievader> KDG-MACKDE: It closes the window, it is up to the application to show a confirmation. In somecases ctrl+q or ctrl+w might work too, though ctrl+w is more for tabs.
[21:33] <KDG-MACKDE> yea know :( tab not windows :(
[21:33] <KDG-MACKDE> can it be chane?
[21:35] <lordievader> KDG-MACKDE: System Settings -> Shortcuts and Gestures -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts -> Kwin -> Close Window
[21:36] <KDG-MACKDE> thx :)
[21:39] <SonikkuAmerica> That reminds me I need to change my workspace switcher shortcuts
[21:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Ctrl+F4 = closing subwindows, not switching to WS #4