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slixz85hi01:42
Unit193!hi01:43
ubottuHi!, Welcome to #lubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!01:43
slixz85anyone know why recovery mode would keep my laptop screen on constantly but when i do the actual normal boot it shuts off the screen about 5 seconds after showing the desktop? real annoying. appreciate any help. using a toshiba satellite a20501:43
Unit193I'd check the power settings in xfce4-power-manager-settings01:44
slixz85yeah i have01:44
slixz85i am wondering about stuff besides the normal gui settings01:45
slixz85they are all fine01:45
Unit193Can you ssh in and check `dmesg`  and /var/log/syslog ?01:46
slixz85one second01:47
slixz85if this is the info that could help also. unless wrong lspci line01:47
slixz85my vid card is01:47
slixz8500:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)01:47
slixz8500:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (secondary) (rev 0c)01:47
slixz85Unit193, do you got time if i pastebin this stuff?01:48
Unit193slixz85: Kind of working on a few things, but may be able to glance over.01:49
slixz85thats cool appreciate it. i will just hang around. this dmesg terminal took too many lines but i will post what all i could01:50
slixz85part of top cut off01:50
Unit193!nomodeset | Could try this01:52
ubottuCould try this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter01:52
slixz85ok. i will check into it more. i do know that acpi=off worked with puppy but not with lubuntu and noapic nolapic worked with another os but not another. so a very wierd issue i am running into01:53
slixz85damn pastebin i keep exceeding lol01:56
slixz85anyone know why recovery mode would keep my laptop screen on constantly but when i do the actual normal boot it shuts off the screen about 5 seconds after showing the desktop? real annoying. appreciate any help. using a toshiba satellite a20502:40
cdoublejjonce when i setup dual monitors in extended mode, it stretched the start bar across both monitors.11:17
cdoublejjthat upset me because  i wanted TRUE extended displays like in windows 711:17
filippoHi, I have some problem with the bluetooth12:36
filipponoone can help me with mi bluetooth adapter?12:42
ps1quiKowhat's ur bt adapt?12:42
filippoIt's an usb adapter, a 2.0 bt, I don't remember the brand12:45
holstein!bluetooth | filippo12:51
ubottufilippo: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup12:51
holsteinif it were me, i would like to see the adapter working somewhere it is supported, so that i know the hardware is functional. i would just run lspci and/or lsusb and search for the information that is returned12:52
filippoI find this with lsusb : Bus 004 Device 007: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)13:00
holsteinfilippo: thats what i would use to test, after determining the hardware is funcitonal.. is the hardware good?13:08
Pelomorning folks, I'll be setting up a cctv system for a freind, I was thinking of using lubuntu as a base, I've never used it before.  does  it use the ubuntu repository ?14:02
holstein!lubuntu14:22
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.14:22
holsteinPelo: lubuntu *is* ubuntu, at least as far as the sources14:22
cortmanInstead of gnome?14:24
cortmanlooks like ubottu needs to be updated14:25
holsteincortman: i thought it had been.. someone proposed that the other day14:27
cortmanI see14:28
cortmanno big deal14:28
holsteinwell, it is incorrect, or out-dated..14:28
cortmanagreed14:28
Pelothanks holstein14:55
bonzodoghey all15:18
bonzodogquick question15:18
bonzodogjust installed 12.10 (dont ask, 13.04 has a massive bug with my GPU)15:19
bonzodoganyways, openbox user of many many years...yet lubuntu is not reading the ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml file15:19
bonzodogI like to run with OB borderless15:20
bonzodogbut putting in the xml to make OB run borderless then restarting it doesnt make winodw borders disappear15:21
bonzodogalso, how do I kill the LXPanel?15:22
bonzodogI want tint 2, have a config already that I already use and love15:23
bonzodogis lubuntu still reading the global file in /usr/share/lubuntu/openbox/config/rc.xml?15:24
bonzodogthe 13.04 bug is ubuntu wide, btw. My GPU is too new for nouveau and is an optimus chipset15:25
bonzodogthus nouveau cant talk to it. I dont know how its working on 12.10, appears to be using a generic nouveau driver just fine15:26
cortmanbonzodog, sounds like you want Crunchbang, not Lubuntu15:26
cortmanIt uses Openbox and Tint215:26
bonzodogcortman, I went through lubuntu as it talks nicely to EFI on install15:26
bonzodogthis is an Optimus-EFI laptop15:27
cortmanOk, your choice15:27
cortmanHow did you set the window borders to off in rc.xml?15:27
cortmanThe Openbox config manager has a box you can check for no window borders15:27
cortmanDid you try that?15:27
bonzodogno, I mean the actual title bar15:28
bonzodogundecorated by default15:28
bonzodogso using the <application class = "*">15:28
cortmanYeah that sounds correct15:29
bonzodogthen <decor>no></decor>15:29
bonzodogI renamed the file from lubuntu-rc.xml to just rc.xml15:29
cortmanDid you run openbox --reconfigure then afterwards?15:29
bonzodogto make sure OB could see it15:29
bonzodogwell, theres a reconfigure option in the right click menu15:30
bonzodogused that15:30
cortmanAh ok15:30
bonzodogI was an Arch user before this, but had problems with the direction they were going, and maintaining it was becoming a PITA15:31
bonzodogI wanted a boot-and-go distro for once15:31
cortmanSure15:31
cortmanI use openbox all the time but haven't had much experience troubleshooting it. Sorry I can't be of more help...15:32
holsteinbonzodog: i probably would just use openbox.. the session should be there at login, since lxde uses it15:32
bonzodogah15:32
bonzodogsee, I never thought to look at the sessions menu at login15:32
bonzodogwould that run with the lxpanel off?15:33
holsteinbonzodog: it should run openbox. just openbox, and whatever else your custom configs do15:33
bonzodogah, cool15:33
bonzodogthanks :D15:33
holsteinyou can use tint2 or lxpanel or whatever15:33
cortman^good idea15:33
holsteinif you had something from #! you really liked15:33
holsteini took some things from #! and used them in a custom setup15:34
bonzodogyeah, have a custom tint 2 I like -- it was from Archbang, but whatever....15:34
bonzodogI do not like systemd15:34
holsteini installed stock ubuntu acutally, and added openbox and tint2 and setup a session i wanted to use15:34
cortmanI would just use #!. :)15:35
bonzodogalso, Arch does not support UEFI/Optimus systems out of the box so to speak15:35
bonzodogUEFI is awkward to setup15:35
bonzodogbut this system is UEFI locked, is <3 months old15:35
bonzodogyou have to create a special partition for the UEFI to boot from15:36
bonzodogalso, optimus chipsets require bumblebee15:36
filippoHi to everyone15:36
filippoI need help with an adapter bluetooth that wont work15:37
holsteinthere might be reasons you want to use #!, and i have/did and i like that project15:37
holstein!bluetooth15:37
ubottuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup15:37
bonzodogok, going off to switch back into a clean OB15:38
holsteinfilippo: do you know the hardware is functional?15:38
filippoholstein, no, I don't it's new and i can't test it in another machine15:39
filippoholstein, I have do this first http://paste.ubuntu.com/5655375/15:40
holsteinfilippo: i would want to see that the device works.. if its broken, you will *never* get it working, obviously15:40
filippoholstein, hcitool dev dont give me back anything15:41
holsteinhttp://superuser.com/questions/142048/cambridge-silicon-radio-ltd-bluetooth-usb-dongle-drivers makes me think the vendor doesnt provide linux support, nor allow it to be supported15:41
holsteini would just return it,, and try another device15:42
filippoholstein, damn15:43
filippoholstein, thank you15:43
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CoppolaEmilioHello there!17:02
CoppolaEmilioJust a quick question, is there a guideline on the limitations of default programs on lubuntu?17:03
CoppolaEmilioAbout performance and such things17:03
Unit193We try to keep it as light and functional as we can.17:04
CoppolaEmilioOfc, any progaming language recomended?17:04
Unit193I personally don't think python is it, but that's me.  Are you looking to create something to include?17:05
Unit193It of course also has to be in the main repos.17:05
wxlit does?17:06
wxlno LOLCODE, huh?17:07
CoppolaEmilioIm using lubuntu and feels great, so I want to contribute17:07
CoppolaEmilioSo i wantes to know the limitations17:07
CoppolaEmilioWanted*17:08
CoppolaEmilioThanks!17:09
wxlCoppolaEmilio: did you see the dev page?17:10
CoppolaEmilioWhere?17:10
wxlhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers17:10
CoppolaEmilioThanks!17:10
pmatulis_is gnome-control-center package used much with lubuntu?17:14
Unit193Doesn't come with, and not sure if it is compatible.17:14
CoppolaEmilioI gess vala is a good language to develop lubuntu programs...17:18
Unit193Interesting thought, and it would seem to be quite an interesting language indeed!  If you already know one, you can look at the LXDE or Lubuntu bug reports, and see what you can fix?17:22
CoppolaEmilioYes, im mostly a python dev, but fixing bugs on other languages its not so hard... usually :P17:23
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Unit193Hah, whoops. :P17:26
bonzodoghi guys, back17:46
wxlum, front?17:46
bonzodogfinally, after an hour of cursing, reading docs, have finally figured out how to get ob 3.4 to run undecorated17:47
bonzodogthey have changed the application class methods17:47
bonzodogit needs noting somewhere for future reference17:48
bonzodogto run ob undecorated, the first line is MUCH longer17:48
bonzodog<application name="*" class="*" role="*" title="*" type="*">17:49
bonzodogit is currently only documented on the ob wiki itself17:50
bonzodogand not directly17:50
wxlthat may imply the demand for such a feature is small.17:51
bonzodogsee, I run ob undecorated for all windows, borders on17:51
bonzodogyeah, it probably is17:51
bonzodogvery geeky way of running openbox17:51
wxlso if you have no access to the wiki to document it yourself, i'd just post up a very complete version of the problem and the solution to the mailing list. ask the folks that deal with docs to put it in.17:52
wxlalthough, really, it's an openbox issue. i'd sooner recommend getting the openbox folks to put it on their own documentation.17:53
bonzodogI am running lubuntu as an openbox session only, with nitrogen to set background, conky, and tint217:53
bonzodogwell the openbox folks have documented it, but they leave you to figure out what goes in the spaces17:53
wxlso ask them to document it better17:54
Unit193So hardly Lubuntu. ;)  You have tint2 from svn?  Last I knew it had a few nice features released didn't.  Good application choices, too, and generally I'd bet a nice custom setup.17:55
bonzodogFor some reason the lubuntu site/forums are running really slow17:55
bonzodogThe reason I went for lubuntu is because I have a UEFI/Optimus system17:56
bonzodogand the lubuntu installer makes it easy to install on a UEFI system17:57
ibere_SPhi, i'm using lubuntu 12.04 32 bits and chromium as default browser. on dropbox, when i right click on the icon and choose to open dropbox site, it opens on firefox instead of chromium. i' ve already ran sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser and confirmed chromium as default browser. can anyone help, pls?17:57
bonzodoguninstall ff?17:57
Unit193Did you happen to set gnome-www-browser too?17:58
ibere_SPbonzodog, i've uninstalled ff and things became normal again but for some stuff i need firefox, then after reinstall, the strange behaviour returned...17:59
wxlibere_SP: what do you need firefox for?17:59
Unit193Also try  update-alternatives --get-selections | grep firefox17:59
ibere_SPwxl, testing web design on different browsers.18:00
wxlwell, that's a good excuse18:00
wxlas an alternative, you could give up web design and take up programming18:00
wxlj/k ;)18:00
ibere_SPwxl, lol. :-)18:01
ibere_SPUnit193, what update-alternatives --get-selections | grep firefox will do after running it?18:01
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Unit193ibere_SP: It won't really *do* anything, just show you what firefox may be configured for.18:02
ibere_SPi've  just ran and it returns nothing...18:03
ibere_SPUnit193, so i suppose ff is not configured for anything, right?18:04
ibere_SPUnit193, what would be correct once chromium is the default browser.... i guess.18:04
wxlibere_SP: so you should set ff to ask you if it's the default browser and then run it and tell it no and do the same for chromium but tell it yes18:06
wxlthat *MAY* help18:06
ibere_SPwxl, hummm, sounds a good idea! tks. i 'll try. need to go to a meeting now. bye!18:07
Unit193I'd just have fun and grep the files in .config/ next for it. :P  (But I use firefox, so not an issue for me! :D )18:10
wxlew firefox18:10
hpuser4466How to disable the touchpad on my notebook while mouse is connected?18:26
hpuser4466The mouse cursor jumps when I type causing me to make errors.18:28
IdleOne!info synaptics18:39
ubottuPackage synaptics does not exist in quantal18:39
IdleOne!info synaptic18:39
ubottusynaptic (source: synaptic): Graphical package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.75.12build1 (quantal), package size 2389 kB, installed size 7686 kB18:39
IdleOnehmm that isn't it18:39
IdleOnehpuser4466: this might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Disabling_Touchpad_while_Typing18:41
hpuser4466thanks i think i found the solution to edit /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart and add: @synclient MaxTapTime=018:48
hpuser4466gpointing-device-settings won't save the settings perminantly by itself (it seems).18:48
wxlhpuser4466: that is the solution if you want to set any synaptics settings permanently19:02
wxlsome things are set by syndaemon too. you can man synaptics to get all the buhzillions of options.19:02
hpuser4466thanks. I just want to disable touchpad tap clicking to stop the typing cursor jumping :- )19:05
wxlthen you're good. :)19:05
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hpuser4466When I insert the SDCARD a box opens up that says:  "Removable medium inserted.  Select the actions you want to perform".20:53
hpuser4466what is the name of this script/app?  I want to edit the options20:53
gomiboyhpuser4466: the program is pcmanfm, the file manager, but i don't know how/if you can modify the menu21:26
hpuser4466yes i know pcmanfm.  I'm looking for the process that runs the dialog box that says "Removable medium is inserted".21:27
hpuser4466trying to find the process name.  Checked with ps -e   and still can't find it.21:28
gomiboyhpuser4466: the process IS pcmanfm, it runs in the background and takes care of the desktop and media insertion21:30
hpuser4466you know how it says "select the action you want to perform"21:31
hpuser4466i want to add a new action21:31
hpuser4466How do i add options to the removable medium dialog?23:03
hpuser4466It only has 1 option:  "open in file manager".23:04
wxlhpuser4466: it's a pcmanfm sort of thing23:05
wxlthat being said, why don't you hit up pcman himself?23:05
hpuser4466where?23:05
hpuser4466I realize pcmanfm controls the dialog:  pcmanfm>Preferences>Volume Management>show available options...23:06
hpuser4466the question is how to edit the available options?23:07
wxlhpuser4466: edit the source code23:07
hpuser4466hmm i suspected i'd have to do that23:07
wxlhere's your guy http://sourceforge.net/users/pcmanx23:08
hpuser4466thanks.23:09

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