[01:42] <slixz85> hi
[01:43] <Unit193> !hi
[01:43] <slixz85> anyone know why recovery mode would keep my laptop screen on constantly but when i do the actual normal boot it shuts off the screen about 5 seconds after showing the desktop? real annoying. appreciate any help. using a toshiba satellite a205
[01:44] <Unit193> I'd check the power settings in xfce4-power-manager-settings
[01:44] <slixz85> yeah i have
[01:45] <slixz85> i am wondering about stuff besides the normal gui settings
[01:45] <slixz85> they are all fine
[01:46] <Unit193> Can you ssh in and check `dmesg`  and /var/log/syslog ?
[01:47] <slixz85> one second
[01:47] <slixz85> if this is the info that could help also. unless wrong lspci line
[01:47] <slixz85> my vid card is
[01:47] <slixz85> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)
[01:47] <slixz85> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (secondary) (rev 0c)
[01:48] <slixz85> Unit193, do you got time if i pastebin this stuff?
[01:49] <Unit193> slixz85: Kind of working on a few things, but may be able to glance over.
[01:50] <slixz85> thats cool appreciate it. i will just hang around. this dmesg terminal took too many lines but i will post what all i could
[01:50] <slixz85> part of top cut off
[01:52] <Unit193> !nomodeset | Could try this
[01:53] <slixz85> ok. i will check into it more. i do know that acpi=off worked with puppy but not with lubuntu and noapic nolapic worked with another os but not another. so a very wierd issue i am running into
[01:56] <slixz85> damn pastebin i keep exceeding lol
[02:40] <slixz85> anyone know why recovery mode would keep my laptop screen on constantly but when i do the actual normal boot it shuts off the screen about 5 seconds after showing the desktop? real annoying. appreciate any help. using a toshiba satellite a205
[11:17] <cdoublejj> once when i setup dual monitors in extended mode, it stretched the start bar across both monitors.
[11:17] <cdoublejj> that upset me because  i wanted TRUE extended displays like in windows 7
[12:36] <filippo> Hi, I have some problem with the bluetooth
[12:42] <filippo> noone can help me with mi bluetooth adapter?
[12:42] <ps1quiKo> what's ur bt adapt?
[12:45] <filippo> It's an usb adapter, a 2.0 bt, I don't remember the brand
[12:51] <holstein> !bluetooth | filippo
[12:52] <holstein> if it were me, i would like to see the adapter working somewhere it is supported, so that i know the hardware is functional. i would just run lspci and/or lsusb and search for the information that is returned
[13:00] <filippo> I find this with lsusb : Bus 004 Device 007: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
[13:08] <holstein> filippo: thats what i would use to test, after determining the hardware is funcitonal.. is the hardware good?
[14:02] <Pelo> morning folks, I'll be setting up a cctv system for a freind, I was thinking of using lubuntu as a base, I've never used it before.  does  it use the ubuntu repository ?
[14:22] <holstein> !lubuntu
[14:22] <holstein> Pelo: lubuntu *is* ubuntu, at least as far as the sources
[14:24] <cortman> Instead of gnome?
[14:25] <cortman> looks like ubottu needs to be updated
[14:27] <holstein> cortman: i thought it had been.. someone proposed that the other day
[14:28] <cortman> I see
[14:28] <cortman> no big deal
[14:28] <holstein> well, it is incorrect, or out-dated..
[14:28] <cortman> agreed
[14:55] <Pelo> thanks holstein
[15:18] <bonzodog> hey all
[15:18] <bonzodog> quick question
[15:19] <bonzodog> just installed 12.10 (dont ask, 13.04 has a massive bug with my GPU)
[15:19] <bonzodog> anyways, openbox user of many many years...yet lubuntu is not reading the ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml file
[15:20] <bonzodog> I like to run with OB borderless
[15:21] <bonzodog> but putting in the xml to make OB run borderless then restarting it doesnt make winodw borders disappear
[15:22] <bonzodog> also, how do I kill the LXPanel?
[15:23] <bonzodog> I want tint 2, have a config already that I already use and love
[15:24] <bonzodog> is lubuntu still reading the global file in /usr/share/lubuntu/openbox/config/rc.xml?
[15:25] <bonzodog> the 13.04 bug is ubuntu wide, btw. My GPU is too new for nouveau and is an optimus chipset
[15:26] <bonzodog> thus nouveau cant talk to it. I dont know how its working on 12.10, appears to be using a generic nouveau driver just fine
[15:26] <cortman> bonzodog, sounds like you want Crunchbang, not Lubuntu
[15:26] <cortman> It uses Openbox and Tint2
[15:26] <bonzodog> cortman, I went through lubuntu as it talks nicely to EFI on install
[15:27] <bonzodog> this is an Optimus-EFI laptop
[15:27] <cortman> Ok, your choice
[15:27] <cortman> How did you set the window borders to off in rc.xml?
[15:27] <cortman> The Openbox config manager has a box you can check for no window borders
[15:27] <cortman> Did you try that?
[15:28] <bonzodog> no, I mean the actual title bar
[15:28] <bonzodog> undecorated by default
[15:28] <bonzodog> so using the <application class = "*">
[15:29] <cortman> Yeah that sounds correct
[15:29] <bonzodog> then <decor>no></decor>
[15:29] <bonzodog> I renamed the file from lubuntu-rc.xml to just rc.xml
[15:29] <cortman> Did you run openbox --reconfigure then afterwards?
[15:29] <bonzodog> to make sure OB could see it
[15:30] <bonzodog> well, theres a reconfigure option in the right click menu
[15:30] <bonzodog> used that
[15:30] <cortman> Ah ok
[15:31] <bonzodog> I was an Arch user before this, but had problems with the direction they were going, and maintaining it was becoming a PITA
[15:31] <bonzodog> I wanted a boot-and-go distro for once
[15:31] <cortman> Sure
[15:32] <cortman> I use openbox all the time but haven't had much experience troubleshooting it. Sorry I can't be of more help...
[15:32] <holstein> bonzodog: i probably would just use openbox.. the session should be there at login, since lxde uses it
[15:32] <bonzodog> ah
[15:32] <bonzodog> see, I never thought to look at the sessions menu at login
[15:33] <bonzodog> would that run with the lxpanel off?
[15:33] <holstein> bonzodog: it should run openbox. just openbox, and whatever else your custom configs do
[15:33] <bonzodog> ah, cool
[15:33] <bonzodog> thanks :D
[15:33] <holstein> you can use tint2 or lxpanel or whatever
[15:33] <cortman> ^good idea
[15:33] <holstein> if you had something from #! you really liked
[15:34] <holstein> i took some things from #! and used them in a custom setup
[15:34] <bonzodog> yeah, have a custom tint 2 I like -- it was from Archbang, but whatever....
[15:34] <bonzodog> I do not like systemd
[15:34] <holstein> i installed stock ubuntu acutally, and added openbox and tint2 and setup a session i wanted to use
[15:35] <cortman> I would just use #!. :)
[15:35] <bonzodog> also, Arch does not support UEFI/Optimus systems out of the box so to speak
[15:35] <bonzodog> UEFI is awkward to setup
[15:35] <bonzodog> but this system is UEFI locked, is <3 months old
[15:36] <bonzodog> you have to create a special partition for the UEFI to boot from
[15:36] <bonzodog> also, optimus chipsets require bumblebee
[15:36] <filippo> Hi to everyone
[15:37] <filippo> I need help with an adapter bluetooth that wont work
[15:37] <holstein> there might be reasons you want to use #!, and i have/did and i like that project
[15:37] <holstein> !bluetooth
[15:38] <bonzodog> ok, going off to switch back into a clean OB
[15:38] <holstein> filippo: do you know the hardware is functional?
[15:39] <filippo> holstein, no, I don't it's new and i can't test it in another machine
[15:40] <filippo> holstein, I have do this first http://paste.ubuntu.com/5655375/
[15:40] <holstein> filippo: i would want to see that the device works.. if its broken, you will *never* get it working, obviously
[15:41] <filippo> holstein, hcitool dev dont give me back anything
[15:41] <holstein> http://superuser.com/questions/142048/cambridge-silicon-radio-ltd-bluetooth-usb-dongle-drivers makes me think the vendor doesnt provide linux support, nor allow it to be supported
[15:42] <holstein> i would just return it,, and try another device
[15:43] <filippo> holstein, damn
[15:43] <filippo> holstein, thank you
[17:02] <CoppolaEmilio> Hello there!
[17:03] <CoppolaEmilio> Just a quick question, is there a guideline on the limitations of default programs on lubuntu?
[17:03] <CoppolaEmilio> About performance and such things
[17:04] <Unit193> We try to keep it as light and functional as we can.
[17:04] <CoppolaEmilio> Ofc, any progaming language recomended?
[17:05] <Unit193> I personally don't think python is it, but that's me.  Are you looking to create something to include?
[17:05] <Unit193> It of course also has to be in the main repos.
[17:06] <wxl> it does?
[17:07] <wxl> no LOLCODE, huh?
[17:07] <CoppolaEmilio> Im using lubuntu and feels great, so I want to contribute
[17:07] <CoppolaEmilio> So i wantes to know the limitations
[17:08] <CoppolaEmilio> Wanted*
[17:09] <CoppolaEmilio> Thanks!
[17:10] <wxl> CoppolaEmilio: did you see the dev page?
[17:10] <CoppolaEmilio> Where?
[17:10] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers
[17:10] <CoppolaEmilio> Thanks!
[17:14] <pmatulis_> is gnome-control-center package used much with lubuntu?
[17:14] <Unit193> Doesn't come with, and not sure if it is compatible.
[17:18] <CoppolaEmilio> I gess vala is a good language to develop lubuntu programs...
[17:22] <Unit193> Interesting thought, and it would seem to be quite an interesting language indeed!  If you already know one, you can look at the LXDE or Lubuntu bug reports, and see what you can fix?
[17:23] <CoppolaEmilio> Yes, im mostly a python dev, but fixing bugs on other languages its not so hard... usually :P
[17:26] <Unit193> Hah, whoops. :P
[17:46] <bonzodog> hi guys, back
[17:46] <wxl> um, front?
[17:47] <bonzodog> finally, after an hour of cursing, reading docs, have finally figured out how to get ob 3.4 to run undecorated
[17:47] <bonzodog> they have changed the application class methods
[17:48] <bonzodog> it needs noting somewhere for future reference
[17:48] <bonzodog> to run ob undecorated, the first line is MUCH longer
[17:49] <bonzodog> <application name="*" class="*" role="*" title="*" type="*">
[17:50] <bonzodog> it is currently only documented on the ob wiki itself
[17:50] <bonzodog> and not directly
[17:51] <wxl> that may imply the demand for such a feature is small.
[17:51] <bonzodog> see, I run ob undecorated for all windows, borders on
[17:51] <bonzodog> yeah, it probably is
[17:51] <bonzodog> very geeky way of running openbox
[17:52] <wxl> so if you have no access to the wiki to document it yourself, i'd just post up a very complete version of the problem and the solution to the mailing list. ask the folks that deal with docs to put it in.
[17:53] <wxl> although, really, it's an openbox issue. i'd sooner recommend getting the openbox folks to put it on their own documentation.
[17:53] <bonzodog> I am running lubuntu as an openbox session only, with nitrogen to set background, conky, and tint2
[17:53] <bonzodog> well the openbox folks have documented it, but they leave you to figure out what goes in the spaces
[17:54] <wxl> so ask them to document it better
[17:55] <Unit193> So hardly Lubuntu. ;)  You have tint2 from svn?  Last I knew it had a few nice features released didn't.  Good application choices, too, and generally I'd bet a nice custom setup.
[17:55] <bonzodog> For some reason the lubuntu site/forums are running really slow
[17:56] <bonzodog> The reason I went for lubuntu is because I have a UEFI/Optimus system
[17:57] <bonzodog> and the lubuntu installer makes it easy to install on a UEFI system
[17:57] <ibere_SP> hi, i'm using lubuntu 12.04 32 bits and chromium as default browser. on dropbox, when i right click on the icon and choose to open dropbox site, it opens on firefox instead of chromium. i' ve already ran sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser and confirmed chromium as default browser. can anyone help, pls?
[17:57] <bonzodog> uninstall ff?
[17:58] <Unit193> Did you happen to set gnome-www-browser too?
[17:59] <ibere_SP> bonzodog, i've uninstalled ff and things became normal again but for some stuff i need firefox, then after reinstall, the strange behaviour returned...
[17:59] <wxl> ibere_SP: what do you need firefox for?
[17:59] <Unit193> Also try  update-alternatives --get-selections | grep firefox
[18:00] <ibere_SP> wxl, testing web design on different browsers.
[18:00] <wxl> well, that's a good excuse
[18:00] <wxl> as an alternative, you could give up web design and take up programming
[18:00] <wxl> j/k ;)
[18:01] <ibere_SP> wxl, lol. :-)
[18:01] <ibere_SP> Unit193, what update-alternatives --get-selections | grep firefox will do after running it?
[18:02] <Unit193> ibere_SP: It won't really *do* anything, just show you what firefox may be configured for.
[18:03] <ibere_SP> i've  just ran and it returns nothing...
[18:04] <ibere_SP> Unit193, so i suppose ff is not configured for anything, right?
[18:04] <ibere_SP> Unit193, what would be correct once chromium is the default browser.... i guess.
[18:06] <wxl> ibere_SP: so you should set ff to ask you if it's the default browser and then run it and tell it no and do the same for chromium but tell it yes
[18:06] <wxl> that *MAY* help
[18:07] <ibere_SP> wxl, hummm, sounds a good idea! tks. i 'll try. need to go to a meeting now. bye!
[18:10] <Unit193> I'd just have fun and grep the files in .config/ next for it. :P  (But I use firefox, so not an issue for me! :D )
[18:10] <wxl> ew firefox
[18:26] <hpuser4466> How to disable the touchpad on my notebook while mouse is connected?
[18:28] <hpuser4466> The mouse cursor jumps when I type causing me to make errors.
[18:39] <IdleOne> !info synaptics
[18:39] <IdleOne> !info synaptic
[18:39] <IdleOne> hmm that isn't it
[18:41] <IdleOne> hpuser4466: this might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Disabling_Touchpad_while_Typing
[18:48] <hpuser4466> thanks i think i found the solution to edit /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart and add: @synclient MaxTapTime=0
[18:48] <hpuser4466> gpointing-device-settings won't save the settings perminantly by itself (it seems).
[19:02] <wxl> hpuser4466: that is the solution if you want to set any synaptics settings permanently
[19:02] <wxl> some things are set by syndaemon too. you can man synaptics to get all the buhzillions of options.
[19:05] <hpuser4466> thanks. I just want to disable touchpad tap clicking to stop the typing cursor jumping :- )
[19:05] <wxl> then you're good. :)
[20:53] <hpuser4466> When I insert the SDCARD a box opens up that says:  "Removable medium inserted.  Select the actions you want to perform".
[20:53] <hpuser4466> what is the name of this script/app?  I want to edit the options
[21:26] <gomiboy> hpuser4466: the program is pcmanfm, the file manager, but i don't know how/if you can modify the menu
[21:27] <hpuser4466> yes i know pcmanfm.  I'm looking for the process that runs the dialog box that says "Removable medium is inserted".
[21:28] <hpuser4466> trying to find the process name.  Checked with ps -e   and still can't find it.
[21:30] <gomiboy> hpuser4466: the process IS pcmanfm, it runs in the background and takes care of the desktop and media insertion
[21:31] <hpuser4466> you know how it says "select the action you want to perform"
[21:31] <hpuser4466> i want to add a new action
[23:03] <hpuser4466> How do i add options to the removable medium dialog?
[23:04] <hpuser4466> It only has 1 option:  "open in file manager".
[23:05] <wxl> hpuser4466: it's a pcmanfm sort of thing
[23:05] <wxl> that being said, why don't you hit up pcman himself?
[23:05] <hpuser4466> where?
[23:06] <hpuser4466> I realize pcmanfm controls the dialog:  pcmanfm>Preferences>Volume Management>show available options...
[23:07] <hpuser4466> the question is how to edit the available options?
[23:07] <wxl> hpuser4466: edit the source code
[23:07] <hpuser4466> hmm i suspected i'd have to do that
[23:08] <wxl> here's your guy http://sourceforge.net/users/pcmanx
[23:09] <hpuser4466> thanks.