[00:31] <elky> i have the same problem as luissk8
[00:34] <luissk8> elky: you can make it work, but with diferent windowmanager
[00:35] <luissk8> elky: just apt-get lightdm
[00:36] <elky> i apparently already have lightdm
[00:36] <elky> i don't recall installing it
[01:00] <skpw_> i'm having trouble getting a radio station to play in rhythmbox, anyone know why this might be?
[01:14] <bjsnider> lightdm is required to log into unity and is the default display manager in ubuntu
[01:23] <elky> bjsnider, ok, so why the blue screen?
[01:24] <bjsnider> what blue screen?
[01:27] <elky> when i boot up, i get the login screen etc, after logging in i have no unity and instead a blue desktop which i can still add files/folders to but no window decorators or anything like that.
[01:31] <elky> oh wait, it does have decorators, but they're orange/brown. they disappear when i try start unity from the terminal i launch by browsing to /usr/bin
[01:38] <nonuby> my desktop background is stuck on the logging page (with the password box etc..) very weird, reboots havent resolved it, any ideas?
[01:39] <bjsnider> people seem to be having those issues at the moment
[01:40] <bjsnider> i'm assuming it's a lightdm bug, or maybe gnome-settings-daemon
[01:42] <nonuby> ok, np, only other bug I have on new HP pavillion budget (pentium 987) laptop is fn brightness keys, decrease brightness works, however increase brightness shows the little dialog but  doesnt move it upwards. The brightness tool in Settings works though
[01:52] <elky> it's kinda distressing that stuff is this broken only a few weeks from release
[02:00] <IdleOne> elky: not any different from other releases
[02:00] <IdleOne> this is the trend for +1, runs awesome for 5 months and then everything breaks
[02:01] <elky> i havne't run a +1 for ages, but it's the only thing that will run nicely on my new laptop
[02:02] <IdleOne> that last two dev cycles I've had to go back to the latest "stable" release because my system would just stop booting
[02:02] <bjsnider> obviously if the hardware is brand new there could be big driver issues
[02:04] <IdleOne> for me it always seems to come back to nvidia gpu issues
[02:07] <bjsnider> shouldn't be, unless it's old junk or you're using nouveau
[02:08] <elky> i'm expecting this is something to do with the "lets change unity stuff now because sabdfl says so" thing
[02:09] <elky> so i just installed ccsm and there's a whoooole lotta stuff that's disabled that shouldn't be
[04:23] <skpw_> anyone having trouble playing radio stations in rythmbox?
[11:10] <chunkyhead> has the beta 13.04 released?
[11:11] <chunkyhead>  has the beta 13.04 released?
[11:15] <chunkyhead> hello anyone there?
[11:15] <chunkyhead> does anyone know when's the 13.04 bea releasing
[11:15] <otend> check the release schedule
[11:16] <otend> the beta released on the 14th
[11:16] <otend> final release is on April 25
[11:16] <Bauer> chunkyhead:
[11:16] <Bauer> fucking hell, copy/paste still not working properly
[11:17] <Bauer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[11:17] <Bauer> or maybe its my keyboard thats faulty.. but I suspect its something between chrome and xchat
[11:19] <bazhang> Bauer, no cursing here please
[11:31] <Bauer> I've opened a new bug report, but I cant see how to set that its affecting 13.04 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1161341
[11:31] <Bauer> only managed to specify ubuntu generally
[11:53] <jpds> Bauer: You're going to have to click the > next to Ubuntu and select a Package.
[11:54] <jpds> Bauer: Which in this case would be 'gnome-screensaver'.
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:51] <elky> ugh, unity doesn't recognise when xchat is open and opens a new one/loses the existing one
[12:51] <elky> i was seeing the same with inkscape yesterday before i got borked by the blue screen issue
[12:56] <elky> woot, updates fixed it
[12:56] <Bauer> jpds: hmm, thanks but how to learn to know which package to select, in future bug reports? also how to specify the bug is for RR, and not other version
[13:40] <jpds> Bauer: I don't think you can do that.
[13:40] <jpds> Bauer: But bug reports are for the development version by default
[13:47] <yofel> Bauer: what you can do, is tag the bug with 'raring'
[13:47] <Bauer> ahh ok, thanks.. I was sure I had to specify somewhere which version the report refers to..
[13:48] <yofel> Bauer: specifying the release you're using, and the explicit package version in the description would help a lot actually
[13:49] <yofel> Bauer: targeting a bug to a specific release is up to the developers
[13:49] <yofel> Bauer: the version information is automatically added to a bug if you file it using apport btw ;) (ubuntu-bug)
[13:59] <thebishop> i installed a raring nightly from the 25th, and certain apps didn't integrate properly with the launcher.  Pidgin and Xchat in particular didn't show the ">" marker that means they're running.  they also didn't show up in alt-tab.  after doing a dist-upgrade today, pidgin works but xchat doesn't.  what's different about these apps?
[14:10] <EDinNY> Has anyone used MTP to connect to media players or phones? Does it work as expected?
[14:10] <EDinNY> I have read that backports only work on unlocked phones...is that the same with 13.04?
[14:14] <philinux> EDinNY: my galaxy s3 shows up in 13.04 fine as a mass storage device. I can copy mp3 files to it.
[16:09] <sary> Salutations!
[16:10] <sary> Are the (Raring Ringtail) Daily Build download links broken , or is it from my end! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[16:14] <bazhang> works here sary
[16:18] <sary> alright, thanks bazhang!
[17:00] <fg> experienced a problem when updating software center not too long ago  : WARNING:softwarecenter.db.update:The file: '/usr/share/app-install/desktop/sonic-visualiser:x-sonicvisualiser-layer.desktop' could not be read correctly.
[17:00] <fg> anyone experienced anything similar
[17:06] <philinux> fg: i seem to remember such a warning. I ignored it as all worky fine
[17:06] <fg> philinux: ok
[17:09] <philinux> fg: someone bugged it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/app-install-data-ubuntu/+bug/1159023
[17:10] <philinux> fg: this is the active bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/app-install-data-ubuntu/+bug/1158949
[21:09] <RPG_Master_> Updated kernel, now I'm getting some error about boot/vmlinuz and loading kernel first. I can still log in through an older kernel, so what can I do to fix it?
[21:15] <penguin42> well you need to get the actual error message
[21:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Actually, we have it on the #ubuntu channel...
[21:18] <SonikkuAmerica> "error: file 'boot/linuz-3.8.0.15-generic not found \ load kernel first" ( \ represents line br)
[21:20] <RPG_Master_> Oh, sorry. Should have copied that bit
[21:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Honestly I've never seen the word "linuz" alone without it being "vmlinuz"
[21:22] <RPG_Master_> crap
[21:23] <RPG_Master_> Yes it said vmlinuz... I'm off today.
[21:23] <SonikkuAmerica> You may need to check your GRUB entry for the image then
[21:25] <RPG_Master_> SonikkuAmerica: OK, so what do I do now?
[21:29] <SonikkuAmerica> You'll need to look at GRUB and see if it's pointing to the location of the linux-image
[21:37] <LoRez> terminal seems unbearably slow on an NVIDIA Corporation G86 [Quadro NVS 290] (rev a1) on raring.
[21:38] <LoRez> swapping between terminal tabs takes several seconds.
[21:39] <LoRez> is there something tweakable?
[21:41] <RPG_Master_> SonikkuAmerica: OK, so I've got the grub thing open for the latest kernel, and nothing is standing out to me. What am I looking for?
[21:43] <RPG_Master_> SonikkuAmerica: If it'd help you, I can type it up on pastebin for you
[21:49] <yofel> RPG_Master_: there should be a line with "linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-15-generic root=..." somewhere
[21:51] <SonikkuAmerica> Or "linux /vmlinuz"
[22:08] <BlueProtoman> What's the general consensus of the Ubuntu 13.04 beta?  Is it looking like I'm gonna have to wait 3 months for the bugs to be fixed like last time?
[22:10] <SonikkuAmerica> BlueProtoman: depends. Studio was all finished in time for the beta, all that has to be done for them is fix bugs that haven't been solved or randomly show up; the rest don't even have finished roadmaps
[22:10] <BlueProtoman> SonikkuAmerica: Studio?
[22:11] <BlueProtoman> Where's the feature list?
[22:12] <SonikkuAmerica> I use Kubuntu with the studio pointers
[22:13] <BlueProtoman> SonikkuAmerica: No, I mean, what's Studio?  I've never heard of it.
[22:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !studio < here
[22:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !studio
[22:13] <SonikkuAmerica> It's a variant of Xubuntu
[22:13] <RPG_Master_> SonikkuAmerica, yofel , I see the line, but everything past root=uuid= is gibberish
[22:13] <SonikkuAmerica> but has a GNOME base
[22:14] <RPG_Master_> I'm sorry if I'm getting on y'alls nerves, but I've never messed with grub like this
[22:14] <yofel> RPG_Master_: the line says vmlinuz? Then the boot error is weird o.O
[22:14] <yofel> the uuid gibberish is correct. UUID's look like that
[22:14] <RPG_Master_> Yep it says vmlinuz
[22:15] <RPG_Master_> so whats my deal?
[22:15] <RPG_Master_> is it possible ot log into an older kernel and just reinstall the update?
[22:16] <steveire> Hi.
[22:16] <BlueProtoman> Do you guys think the Ubuntu 13.04 beta is stable enough to upgrade to?  (For context, I don't use Unity.)
[22:16] <yofel> sure, just reinstall linux-image-3.8.0-15-generic
[22:16] <yofel> not sure why it would fail though...
[22:16] <steveire> I just upgraded, and now I can't connect with wired or wireless network to the internet on that computer
[22:16] <steveire> When I try to connect to the wireless it hangs and then fails.
[22:17] <steveire> I expected wired network connection to be trouble free, but as that doesn't work either, I think something bad is going on
[22:19] <yofel> define "doesn't work". Is the interface down? connection fails? connection there but no data transmitted?
[22:19] <yofel> also, look at /var/log/syslog. That's where network-manager puts the debug output
[22:20] <steveire> yofel: I can see the essid. When I select it in the network manager applet it gets stuck at configuring nework interface or something like that
[22:20] <yofel> can you pastebin your syslog?
[22:22] <steveire> It's large. I'll tail -f it and grep for NetworkManager. It seems to take 45 seconds to timeout
[22:26] <steveire> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5656527/
[22:26] <steveire> Had to find a usbkey :)
[22:26] <steveire> Looks like it's trying to show me an auth dialog, but I'm not seeing one?
[22:27] <steveire> Can I try to connect on the command line somehow so that it asks me to auth there?
[22:30] <yofel> hm... not sure how to do that with NM. There's nmcli, but that doesn't seem to be able to create new connections...?
[22:30] <yofel> steveire: any device errors in dmesg or is that clean?
[22:33] <steveire> yofel: I don't see any errors in there, nope
[22:35] <yofel> maybe verify that the password is correct in the connection settings. Otherwise I think NM has some setting to make it even more verbose, but I can't remember that now
[22:40] <steveire> I have some progress to report
[22:40] <steveire> If I boot with an old kernel, I can connect with the wired network cable
[22:40] <steveire> Wireless still does not work
[22:41] <steveire> I'm surprised the old kernels are there actually
[22:41] <steveire> It's a 3.5 and a 3.8 that are there under 'alternative ubuntu' or whatever in grub
[22:41] <steveire> The 3.5 one allows me to connect wired
[22:44] <Bauer1> is there anyway to make Ubuntu notifications not loose focus and blur when I get close to them with the mouse?
[22:44] <Bauer1> its annoying I cant click it to bring the relevant application to the front
[22:45] <RPG_Master_> Thanks yofel ! Reinstalling the kernel did it. :D
[22:45] <steveire> yofel: Would that indicate something fault with drivers in the newer kernels?
[22:48] <yofel> steveire: possibly, but then it's weird that dmesg shows nothing
[22:50] <yofel> steveire: try to file a bug like this: when running the broken kernel, run 'apport-cli linux --save=report.apport', then boot to the old kernel and report the bug with 'apport-cli report.apport'
[22:50] <steveire> If dmesg shows something would it be near the start or near the end? What would I look for?
[22:50] <steveire> Ok, I'll try that.
[22:50] <yofel> near the end, anything that would be related to the network card
[23:02] <steveire> yofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1161655
[23:02] <steveire> Thanks for the detective work help
[23:03] <Belial> 3.8.0-15 fixed high load issue.
[23:06] <steveire> Hmm, I wonder if it's akonadi related
[23:13] <maxb> I have a problem with the totem media player, which I've filed in OMT1158594. If anyone has some spare time and feels like checking if it reproduces, that would be nice.
[23:13] <maxb> erm,
[23:13] <maxb> I mean bug 1158594
[23:13] <maxb> Wrong issue tracker prefix :-)
[23:14] <maxb> If it occurs generally, I should probably make more noise about the bug - if it's somehow just me, less so.