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mbender71i hear crickets chirping...00:11
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frankencodelessent: afaik there are no python bindings, and btw. qt5 feels very stable00:21
frankencodehey, anyone started already building easter eggs?00:21
frankencodeor april jokes00:21
lessentthanx..00:22
krabadorhey ubuntu-touch devs, what do you think abount the possibility of zsync daily images?00:26
ogra_sadly you cant zsync zipped files00:29
ogra_i mean, you can ... but it wont gain you anything over a fill download00:29
ogra_*full00:29
krabadoroh, yes... i don't know how zsync works...00:30
ogra_has nothing to do with zsync, rsync has the same issue (or any sunying mechanism) ... its due to the nature of file compression00:30
ogra_*syncing00:31
krabadorogra_, some zsync tool like would be great to gain time00:32
ogra_the only compression tool that produces syncable files  is gzip to my knowledge ... and only due to a hack00:32
ogra_sadly we cant use gzip since android expects zips00:32
ogra_(someone could port the rsync hack from gzip to zip indeed ... )00:33
krabadorthen only source sync ... :)00:38
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onboradhello?02:15
onboradHow can I install tablet with X86 platform02:15
holstein!tablet | onborad pretty sure its ARM, as-is02:21
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ubot5onborad pretty sure its ARM, as-is: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch02:21
onboradubot5: oh I see, I want to know release 13.04 version support multitouch ?02:23
ubot5onborad: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:23
holstein!13.04 | onborad02:24
ubot5onborad: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) will be the 18th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+102:24
holsteinmaybe you just want to install normal ubuntu or ligher on your tablet02:24
onboradyes holstein02:25
onboradholstein: I want  to about tec  multitouch ,is unity feature?02:26
onborad12.10 is well?02:28
holsteinonborad: i would just load it up live02:29
lilstevieunity supports multitouch02:50
lilsteviebut there are a lot of programs that don't02:50
onboradlilstevie, I don't know you means ,a lot of programs don't support multitouch ?03:13
DragunKorranybody on?03:59
dank101me04:18
dank101watching doctor who04:19
matgehey04:19
dank101wassup?04:19
matge:-)04:19
dank101can't wait for the 30th04:20
matgewhats then?04:22
TRiAGEis there a build of touch that runs as a virtual machine? i.e. on vmware/kvm etc?04:25
TRiAGEwould like to install on my ESXi box then access using an iPad over vnc or teamviewer04:25
matgeTRiAGE: none that I know of04:26
dank101TRiAGE, i can probably make a Android 86x port04:26
dank101except it may not work04:27
TRiAGEdank101: interesting - so ubuntu touch running on top of an android kernel?04:27
dank101if the rootfs is based on Ubuntu ARM04:28
dank101then were F**ked04:28
TRiAGEahh04:28
dank101not just04:29
dank101it needs sys components04:29
TRiAGEyeah - thinking more about it, i see that it would be driver hell04:29
dank101Still04:29
dank101i got this04:29
dank101maybe04:30
dank101ajor issue04:30
dank101*Major issue04:30
dank101it would only work as a life USB04:30
dank101*live04:31
dank101and you would need to DD it04:31
kobioshiHey folks. I'm flashing my Nexus 7 with the dev preview, and it seems to be hanging at the Pushing /home/tony/Downloads/phablet-flash/48/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip to /sdcard/autodeploy.zip04:59
kobioshihow long should this process take?05:00
dank10110 secs to 30 mins05:01
kobioshithanks! Android OS is still operational on my tablet so I was concerned that nothing was happening. Any way to know whether there is a problem or if things are working normally?05:02
dank101nope05:03
dank101infact thats good05:03
dank101join the doc05:03
dank101https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Eb_7CJaYJe4UMDCrOz_BQQyRg2Loe9d9NzE-S94Cc7E/edit?usp=sharing05:03
dank101hai05:06
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dank101worlds biggest botnet06:30
dank101attacking06:31
dank101#WhyIUseLinux06:31
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dholbachgood morning08:03
SpartanXlHi all08:14
SpartanXlHas anyone flashed the UoS on N4 ?08:14
SpartanXli was wondering if its possible to install the Ubuntu OS on N4 , using CWM or TWRP ?08:15
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popeykaleo_: bzoltan seems something has changed in the ui toolkit recently which has broken the facebook app we're developing.. https://code.launchpad.net/~hmiguellima/ubuntu-facebook-app/hlima-initial this branch...11:53
popeykaleo_: bzoltan it used a hidden tab so the view either shows the tab where you can see the list of accounts pulled from online-accounts, or your facebook stream.. but something has changed which broke hidden tabs..11:54
popeykaleo_: bzoltan should we file a bug in the ui toolkit?11:56
bzoltanpopey: yes, please11:56
bzoltanpopey: please assign it to tpeeters11:57
popeyok11:58
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guschrenato: ping12:33
renatogusch, hi12:33
guschrenato: are you open for a MP (or 2?)12:34
renatogusch, sure I can take a look12:34
renatoI just need to finish one bug fix here  :D12:34
guschrenato: https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-move-unittests/+merge/155948 and https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/autopilot-tests-refactoring/+merge/15592612:34
guschrenato: both "only" refactorings12:35
renatogusch, ok12:40
nik90popey: the upcoming clock app design meeting..is it in the ubuntu-touch-meeting room or in g+ hangout?12:45
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popeynik90: hangout12:54
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Robin_Wattspopey: Is the doc viewer meeting this evening in ubuntu-touch-meeting ?13:01
jhodapppopey, ping13:06
guschrenato: thx - I updated and commented13:06
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popeyRobin_Watts: yes13:20
popeyjhodapp: pong13:20
jhodapppopey, did give any more thought on whether you want the YouTube app to call the media player, or for there to be a component that you can embed?13:21
pmcgowanogra_: any idea why the links on cdimage are busted? http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/13:21
pmcgowanexcept for current13:21
popeyjhodapp: ideally both ☺13:21
jhodapppopey, ha! :)13:21
popeyjhodapp: in vertical orientation you'd want the video embedded with ratings / comments below13:21
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popeyin horizontal, it makes more sense to go full screen13:22
ogra_pmcgowan, they arent here13:22
popeyif both can be done via a component, then fine13:22
popeybut it seemed like the landscape view would be more appropriate to be launched in the external player13:22
jhodapppopey, I think we can do both, and actually the component should be close to working today13:22
popeyoh awesome13:22
pmcgowanogra_: works for you?13:23
ogra_yes, as supposed13:23
popeyif you have anything the youtube guys can play with, do let them know via the mailing list13:23
pmcgowanhmm13:23
jhodapppopey, if you have a moment, we can hangout or mumble about it if you want13:23
popeysure13:23
ogra_26 gets me to the image from 26th ... and for the others its alike13:23
popeynow?13:23
pmcgowanogra_: sorry my bad, works for me too13:23
jhodapppopey, yes13:23
pmcgowanstale page13:23
popeyjhodapp: http://popey.com/hangout13:23
jhodappcool13:23
ogra_phew13:23
h01gerdo i really need an launchpad account to join the mailinglist? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install (at the very bottom) sounds like i do :(13:27
guschhikiko: what's the status here? https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-max-texture-size/+merge/15567513:29
jcastro_oSoMoN: would your fix for the checkboxes in the browser be in the current build yet?13:33
jcastro_oSoMoN: I don't know what the delay between fix released and in an image is13:33
hikikogusch, sorry I didn't see the highlight13:36
Mirvh01ger: I believe so, since that mailing lists is handled by LP infrastructure13:41
MirvLP also gets one eg. the PPA:s to build apps in, so it has probably been thought LP account is useful anyhow13:41
Mirvbut obviously it's one more account among the interweb's accounts13:42
hikikogusch, works fine on the desktop, I just approved it13:46
oSoMoNjcastro_: it should be, let me check13:47
guschhikiko: \o/13:48
guschhikiko: please top approve it as well13:48
ogra_jcastro_, check the .manifest file13:48
hikikogusch, done :)13:49
ogra_http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.manifest13:49
ogra_webbrowser-app0.1713:49
oSoMoNjcastro_: confirmed, the fix is in the latest build13:49
guschhikiko: thx13:49
hikikowelcome :)13:49
jcastro_oSoMoN: thanks!13:51
oSoMoNjcastro_: note that because of https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112933, the survey is not usable in the browser yet, but there’s some progress, and yesterday someone on the webkit team picked up the bug, so there’s hope we’ll have a fix soon13:53
ubot5bugs.webkit.org bug 112933 in WebKit Qt "[Qt] The web process crashes when selecting an option off a dropdown at http://juju.ubuntu.com/survey" [Normal,Assigned]13:53
jcastro_oSoMoN: ack, I'll follow along with the bug upstream13:55
guschrenato: pushed another update13:55
* asr33 summation: ubuntu-touch will be amazon's netflix! I just bought this n7 hardware and I'm not going to run android on it... and I'm not going to run ubuntu-netflix either... so another useless bit of hardware for the basement! 13:56
ogra_asr33, how do you mean ?13:58
asr33it is just going to be an amazon shop front.13:59
asr33I understand that financing must be found somewhere14:00
ogra_asr33, i dont get you14:00
ogra_there is no amazon stuff in ubuntu touch at all14:00
asr33this is so fare from Linux it is pointless proceeding any further14:01
ogra_??14:01
ogra_asr33, are you here for just pointless and unfundes trolling or do you have anything constructive to say14:01
ogra_*unfunded14:01
asr33anyway I'm chucking my n7 in the rubbish bin14:01
asr33with the trash14:02
Tassadar...silly rich people wasting n7s!14:02
ogra_heh, yeah14:02
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guschrenato: can you approve it? https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-move-unittests/+merge/15594814:18
renatogusch, approved14:19
guschrenato: thanks14:19
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rickspencer3hey, for the ubuntu components, how do I make one of those menu bar things that pop up from the bottom?15:57
rickspencer3kaleo_, ?15:57
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QtRoSHi guys16:01
QtRoSSomeone can help me with installing ubuntu-sdk?16:01
QtRoSI already used it, but after migrating on Qt 5.0.1 it is disappeared...16:03
matgeQtRoS: did you do apt-get install ubuntu-sdk?16:05
QtRoSmatge: says that "ubuntu-sdk is already the newest version."16:06
QtRoSBut where is it?16:06
matgeQtRoS: then what do you mean by "disappeared" ?16:06
QtRoSQt creator haven't Ubuntu welcome page16:06
QtRoSNow haven't16:06
matgebtw. dpkg -L ubuntu-sdk shows you where it is16:06
matgebut ubuntu-sdk is mostly a meta package pulling in many dependencies16:07
matgedid you do apt-get dist-upgrade?16:07
QtRoSyep!16:08
QtRoSAfter dpkg -L ubuntu-sdk I see16:08
QtRoS"/.16:08
QtRoS/usr16:08
QtRoS/usr/share16:08
QtRoS/usr/share/doc16:08
QtRoS/usr/share/doc/ubuntu-sdk16:08
QtRoS/usr/share/doc/ubuntu-sdk/copyright16:09
QtRoS/usr/share/doc/ubuntu-sdk/changelog.gz"16:09
matgeI see that, too16:09
QtRoSMay be problem in Qt creator? Mb I use incorrect version?16:09
matgethe ubuntu-sdk-qt-creator integration is a different package. I don't know which, but it's an depedency of ubuntu-sdk16:10
matgemy qt-creator is 2.6.8416:10
QtRoS2.6.2 ....16:11
QtRoSOld ...16:11
QtRoSHmm... Where I should get your version?16:11
agcalamitaITA QtRoS: try running sudo apt-get update && apt-get install ubuntu-sdk16:12
QtRoSyep, I think ubuntu plugins for 2.716:12
QtRoS"ubuntu-sdk is already the newest version." :(16:13
agcalamitaITAremove and re-install?16:13
QtRoSOk, trying ...16:15
QtRoSsudo apt-get remove ubuntu-sdk?16:16
QtRoShow I can remove all dependent packages too?16:16
QtRoSSorry for this questions, I am not strong ubuntu user :(16:18
moocow1452Anyone home?16:24
QtRoSGuys?16:25
moocow1452Hi QtRoS16:25
agcalamitaITAQtRoS: Just use sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-sdk -- then re-install16:25
moocow1452Hi agcalmitaITA.16:25
agcalamitaITAmoocow1452: Hello!16:26
moocow1452Just you guys?16:26
QtRoSseems like ubuntu-sdk is tiny 26 kb package ...16:26
agcalamitaITAUs and the other 274...16:26
agcalamitaITAQtRoS: Hmmmm...16:26
moocow1452QtRoS, could you ppa-purge?16:27
MirvQtRoS: hi! it sounds like you're not having sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa as instructed there: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/16:28
Mirvthat's why you don't have the new qtcreator nor the ubuntu plugin (nor the newest ubuntu-sdk metapackage version)16:29
QtRoSMirv: I entered full command from "Go mobile" sheet16:29
QtRoSI have ...16:30
QtRoSHow I can remove them and then append again?16:31
QtRoSMb it will help?16:31
moocow1452QtRoS, do that again, but break up the commands by the &&, so they don't trample on each other.16:31
moocow1452That's weird, did you get my entire message or did it just send the last half or so.16:31
MirvQtRoS: if you first run: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/16:32
MirvQtRoS: I mean: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/16:32
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MirvQtRoS: :) 3rd time sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa16:33
MirvQtRoS: then sudo apt-get update16:33
MirvQtRoS: you should be able to run: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade16:33
MirvQtRoS: and: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk16:33
QtRoSwait minute - where I can find QtCreator from Ubuntu SDK?16:34
MirvQtRoS: if do the four commands above ^, Qt Creator and the Ubuntu plugin get installed for you16:34
QtRoSAnd how I can launch?16:35
QtRoSIt?16:35
MirvQtRoS: if you're using normal Ubuntu (Unity desktop), search for "Qt Creator" in Dash16:36
Mirvit should probably appear already after writing Qt16:36
QtRoSBoth "Qt Creators" in dash results are not correct :(16:36
QtRoSOne from QtSDK, v2.4.116:37
MirvQtRoS: after the commands mentioned you should have qtcreator 2.7rc16:37
QtRoSAnother from ... from my own Qt5.0.1, v 2.616:37
Mirvah, right, QtSDK is something that gets installed in your home directory16:37
QtRoSNo, they both installed in /home/Qt/16:38
Mirvbut if you install the system Qt Creator from the SDK PPA:s, it will be at /usr/bin/qtcreator (and 2.7rc)16:38
QtRoSLol, I found it16:38
QtRoSWhy I can't see him in dash before?16:39
Mirv:) good. maybe you just have so many of them..16:39
QtRoSBecause of my another Qt creator from Qt5.0.116:39
Mirvnot sure why Dash wouldn't show three of them16:39
QtRoS?16:39
moocow1452Anyway, I'm trying to port Ubuntu Touch to my Nook Color, because I promised someone on XDA I'd try, but I'm stuck modifying to Repo, as neither the Cyanogen nor the NookieDevs fork of device and kernel want to play nice. Any ideas, or could I do it locally?16:40
ogra_sergiusens, looking at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-1303-cdimage-android-builds i assume your open WI is for next month (i'm just moving the open ones to the right spots here)16:40
MirvQtRoS: anyway, as mentioned on the mailing list I'm off now, but glad that you at least found it some way now :)16:41
QtRoSBut it's version again 2.6.8 :D16:41
QtRoSMirv: big thanks) I can continue development on this version too :)16:41
Mirvor not the mailing list but e-mail16:41
Mirvyou're welcome16:42
QtRoSOne issue - I can run ubuntu sdk QtCreator only from /usr/bin/, can't lock to launcher :(16:45
QtRoSBut it is not big deal to correct :)16:45
moocow1452Not the right place for porting advice I guess?16:49
mterryrobru, did I hear you had some question on modernizing packaging for touch apps?  I recently did a couple, may be able to help17:20
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robrumterry, ehhh? just the ones that didrocks assigned to me in that blueprint. I was pestering jhodapp about some build failures...17:35
jhodapppestering for sure! ;p17:36
mterryrobru, oh, OK.  well, ask away if you do have problems, as always  :)17:37
mterryrobru, did the build failures get squared away?17:37
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robrumterry, unfortunately no... jhodapp says that particular package is arm-only, so I don't think there's much we can do with that.17:37
robrumterry, at least, he said it woudl require "a lot of work" to make it build on amd64. lots of arch-specific code in it17:38
jhodapprobru, were you able to file a bug against it though?17:38
mterryrobru, for an app?  I didn't think we had any arm-only apps, just the lower level stuff like qtubuntu17:38
robrumterry, yeah, it was a lower level thing. qtubuntu-camera17:38
robrujhodapp, no, I didn't file a bug... didn't realize you were expecting me to17:39
jhodapprobru, if you wouldn't mind, that should be fixed and I'd greatly appreciate a bug filed against it17:39
robrujhodapp, oh, ok.17:39
jhodapprobru, thanks much!17:40
jhodapprobru, you can assign it to me17:40
robrujhodapp, oh, we didn't enable the bug tracker on the individual projects... where should I file this bug to?17:40
robrumterry, ^^17:41
jhodapprobru, bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images should work17:41
robrugusch, ping18:00
guschrobru: pong18:00
robrugusch, struggling with https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/qtubuntu-cameraplugin-fake/packaging/+merge/153652 still... do you have any idea how qmake creates this /usr/tests thing? I can't see how to get it to stop creating that file18:01
guschrobru: well the last error seem to be pure jenkins error18:02
guschrobru: what happens if we just rebuild it?18:03
robrugusch, oh yeah, no, not talking about jenkins error. What I mean is, the solution that I put in was to delete the file from the packaging data, but I'm told that's not acceptable, it needs to be fixed directly in the source.18:03
robruso if I delete the 'rm -rf' line that I added to the packaging, it gets all kinds of warnings about nonstandard files ;-)18:04
robrugusch, just pretend that https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/qtubuntu-cameraplugin-fake/packaging/+merge/153652/comments/335422 is the current error message ;-)18:05
robrujhodapp, maybe you know a thing or two about qmake? ^^18:06
guschrobru: I can take a look at how to install the tests on a proper place18:07
guschrobru: but I need to go in a minute18:07
guschrobru: are you around tomorrow?18:07
robrugusch, probably not, good friday over here18:07
jhodapprobru, I know only a little bit from my trials with it doing the media stuff :)18:07
guschrobru: or if you like, you can convert to cmake ;)18:08
robrujhodapp, ok, no worries18:08
jhodapprobru, convert it to cmake! :)18:08
robrugusch, hah, never used either18:08
guschrobru: you could try something like "target.path = /usr/share/gallery-app-unittests"18:10
guschrobru: and then "INSTALLS += target"18:10
mhall119anybody around for the calculator app meeting?18:11
robrugusch where would I put that?18:11
guschrobru: in the .pro file of every test (or better include from a common .pri file)18:12
guschrobru: but for a first test just adding that in every test .pro is ok18:12
robrugusch, ok I'll give it a shot18:12
robrugusch, I'll probably be around tomorrow "unofficially" ;-)18:13
robrugusch, thanks18:13
guschrobru: guarante that this works ...18:14
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jhodapppopey: see my email to the YouTube devs?19:48
ogra_awesome !19:51
* ogra_ just read it19:51
jhodappogra_, oh thanks19:51
mhall119anybody around for the rss reader app meeting?20:06
dank101https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Eb_7CJaYJe4UMDCrOz_BQQyRg2Loe9d9NzE-S94Cc7E/edit20:30
mhall119anybody from the doc viewer team available for today's meeting?20:32
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dank101is it po20:43
dank101is it possible to use AOSP code to make Ubuntu Touch instead of CM code?20:45
ChickenCutlassdank101: yes it is.20:47
ChickenCutlassdank101: we used CM since it had more device support than AOSP20:47
dank101wait20:47
dank101YOUR on the dev team?20:47
dank101(assuming)20:47
ChickenCutlassdank101: yes I am20:47
dank101:D thanks20:47
dank101that make eerything better20:48
dank101and also20:48
dank101must the processer be ARM20:48
ChickenCutlassyes20:48
dank101darn20:48
dank101bye bye 86x idea20:48
ChickenCutlassdank101: well you could run in on x86 assuming you had all the binary drivers20:49
dank101android 86x?20:49
ChickenCutlassright20:49
dank101well20:50
dank101There we GO20:50
dank101now i can get this on VMWare and VirtualBox20:50
dank101maybe even20:50
shaneo1Oh my what has happened to todays daily20:50
shaneo1its broken a lot of the main apps20:51
dank101x86  ubuntu touch tablets :DD20:51
shaneo1thought id reinstall it to see how far along it had come and how stable it should be now and the GNEX camera app just gives me a white screen20:52
shaneo1there is a lot more lag than before as well20:52
shaneo1I know its a dev preview still but this is taking a step in the wrong direction20:53
pmcgowanshaneo1: hey no one had mentioned problems today, but I have yesterdays image installed20:54
shaneo1i guess this is what happens when everyone and there android phones steps in and starts tinkering :(20:54
shaneo1should have concentrated on a select phew phones20:54
shaneo1few20:54
pmcgowanI didnt see anything in today that would do that20:55
pmcgowanwe do20:55
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pmcgowantere are only 4 official references20:55
shaneo1well I just installed it twice and its junk20:55
pmcgowanon what device?20:55
shaneo1G Nexus20:55
pmcgowanhmm20:55
shaneo1I know20:55
pmcgowanlet me try it, an updated qt5multimedia went in20:56
shaneo1if I try to send an sms the sms window is hidden behind the keyboard20:56
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shaneo1the camera app is dead20:57
shaneo1there is lag on the screen shots in the video play back20:57
shaneo1the gallery app images take a very long time to load in20:57
shaneo1the phone-app conversation list of contacts is very laggy20:58
shaneo1whats going on20:58
shaneo1the mwc preview was the best20:58
shaneo1lol20:58
pmcgowanshaneo1: try the tues build, it was lovely20:59
shaneo1it must be the easter bunny :-)20:59
shaneo1ok I will check it out20:59
shaneo1thanks20:59
Robin_Watts[Continuing from #ubuntu-touch-meeting] Good ways to get pdf test files include 1) downloading the 100 most popular PDF files from google. 2) Downloading the Ghent PDF test suite. 3) Taking our free ones.21:02
Robin_Wattsor, if you have money, you can buy in test files from e.g. Quality Logic21:03
Robin_WattsWe run the QL test suites internally.21:03
kaleo_rickspencer3: sorry about not seeing your ping earlier: use the http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/qml-ubuntu-components0-mainview.html#tools-prop21:07
kaleo_rickspencer3: doc is horrendous in this one so use the same syntax as in the example in http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/qml-ubuntu-components0-page.html21:07
shaneo1thanks pmcgowan tues build is ok21:16
pmcgowanoh good, sorry about the regression will get folks on it21:17
shaneo1when are we likely to see a more active experience I heard there was talk of it just after the mwc21:17
pmcgowanlooking for something specific? lots is in process21:18
shaneo1no worries, I know there was an issue with the daily build server over the last couple of days may have caused and issue21:18
shaneo1im keen to see the music app and have a mess around with it21:18
shaneo1but I know this is not a core app, but an inhouse canonical r=one21:19
shaneo1one *21:19
pmcgowanthat one probably not anything for another month unfortunately21:19
shaneo1no worries, I know its gonna be great with all the hooking up to the U-one store  :-)21:20
shaneo1one thing I will say is that Ubuntu on the G Nex has improved the speaker output compaired to android much louder21:21
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novilinguise21:36
novilinubuntu touch is really great21:36
novilinplease keep up the good work21:36
bugheadhi21:37
novilinhi bughead21:37
bugheadi'd like to view the code of ubuntu phone, to learn and contribute21:37
shaneo1hello21:37
bugheadbut i'm a newbie and i cant find it :(21:38
novilineven I am curious21:38
novilinand would like to examine the source if I can21:38
bugheadhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps i thought it must be there21:38
shaneo1its on the phone in the Ubuntu folder21:38
bugheadso i first have to install the preview before i can see the code itself?21:40
shaneo1have a read though the wiki21:40
shaneo1https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch21:40
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novilinmaking some changes to the wiki guys21:43
novilinbasically so that newbies have an easier time installing this21:43
bugheadjust wondering21:49
bugheadi cant find anything like "phone or sms"-app in core-apps21:50
bugheadwill android apps be used for this or will i not be able to call someone?21:50
shaneo1telephone-app21:55
shaneo1telephony-app21:55
shaneo1but i think its changing to phone-app21:56
shaneo1its not a core app, its something that is already in production21:56
shaneo1no android apps are used, android apps are written using java, ubuntu apps are written using QML21:58
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rickspencer3kaleo_, so when I use MainView, I get this weird bar across the top of my app22:02
rickspencer3and it's hard to position the conent neatly22:03
rickspencer3am I doing something wrong?22:03
bughead@shaneo1 kk, thx22:04
bugheadexit22:05
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pedrohmssome application interested in beta phase released22:18
pedrohms?22:18
rickspencer3 I'd like to take a look at the QML for the web browser app (to see how they do their toolbar)22:33
rickspencer3anyone know where the branch lives?22:33
rickspencer3nm22:34
rickspencer3http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/webbrowser-app/trunk/files22:34
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dank101!totallynotexit22:49
dank101!exit22:49
dank101!help22:49
ubot5Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:49
dank101!help commands22:49
k1ldank101: can we help you?23:03
pahello23:04
pai heared of ubuntu for nexus 1023:04
pabut there's one thing i dont understand: does it allow to use all the open source software available for ubuntu desktop?23:04
pait shouldnt be such a big secret, is it?23:27
rickspencer3hi pa23:28
rickspencer3does it, or will it?23:28
rickspencer3currently, it's not the case that just any app can run23:28
k1lthe problem i see (besides that will it run): is it usable with touchscreen. becaus emost desktop apps arent23:29
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