[03:54] 123 floor [04:49] heh [04:49] so, the egyptian military busted 3 guys attempting to cut more cables === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [05:53] cremora minora [05:56] it's not inside, it's on top? [05:56] morning all [05:56] heh kilos [05:56] the egyptian navy [05:57] arrested 3 guys attempting to cut more cables [05:57] great news that Symmetria [05:57] and add to the fact that the largest ddos attempt in history is currently going on in a war between spamhaus and someone else thats screwing crap up [05:57] the internet is basically a mess right now [05:57] you got more info on where they are from [05:57] apparently egyptians [05:57] details are a little sketchy [05:58] my question is, how the hell were they attempting to cut it in scuba gear, because they musta had a death wish unless they were using underwater welding gear [05:58] thats basically worldwide sabotage [05:58] you cant saw through a cable like that, you'd electrocute yourself [05:58] those cables are carrying a *LOT* of power [05:58] underwater cutting torches? [05:58] kilos thats what Im thinking [05:59] would be nice to know the reason they do it [06:00] to stop the evil internet from them or everywhere else [06:00] dont the cables just bypass them? [06:25] *hrm* I dont know [07:11] hi henkj jrgns superfly [07:11] hi Kilos [07:12] morning Kilos. A bit distracted, are we? :P [07:12] ya [07:13] hi Kilos [07:19] hi Vince-0 [07:21] Hi! [07:27] Kilos: what was that telkom mobile URL? [07:27] Maaz: 8ta [07:27] superfly: 8ta is http://telkommobile.mobi/about-us/ [07:27] there we go [07:29] hrm [07:29] for anyone who has to buy IP transit services, ever [07:29] I strongly suggest not buying anything from seacom [07:29] lotsa info there superfly [07:30] for reasons I cant go into on here, but take it from me, no one wants to do that [07:30] i looked at the wireless stuff and could be good if you can get it [07:30] too much work and cost to setup external aerial and radio transmitter here [07:32] Symmetria, for reasons like recurring cable breaks [07:32] Kilos, its not too bad once you have the bracket in the wall [07:32] vince no, cable breaks are the least of it [07:33] mainly here would be the cost Vince-0 [07:35] i chatted to the ptawug guys quite a while back. even have my co-ords [07:35] they are actually a nice bunch [07:36] Kilos, so it's still cheaper to connect via 8ta 3G over a long period of time? [07:36] well its 1g a month which i can manage [07:36] with the odd extra [07:37] wireless would be cheaper in the long run [07:38] there are quite a few ubuntu users in ptawug that offered to get repos and share over wireless [07:39] yes! although I don't think you can get Internet break out on a WUG - it's against the rules [07:39] PTAWUG is like one of the biggest WUGS in the world [07:40] i think some of the ctwug guys run apt mirrors, i'm sure ptawug do the same [07:41] oh, and good morning :) [07:42] yip largest in the southern hemisphere [07:42] hi ThatGraemeGuy [07:43] they dont supply internet Vince-0 but once you have their equipment in im sure you can then connect wwith one of the telkom hotspots [07:44] morning ThatGraemeGuy [07:45] ah, then you're radio needs to be able to do more than 1 concurrent connection [07:46] "It's 'before', not 'b4'. You speak English, not Bingo." [07:46] :D [07:46] yip they show how to do that in the getting started section [07:46] but using xp\sigh [07:46] all about ip addies [07:47] lol @ Squirm [07:48] and you gotta download the os for the router which i think is ms because its winsomething [07:49] oh? I thought Mikrotik uses an open OS [07:50] its linux-based, but i'm not sure if it's "open" [07:50] you need different levels of licensing depending on what functionality you want [07:51] although the WUG kits come with all the right stuff [07:51] and Kilos i think you might be referring to the management tool, winbox.exe [07:51] although the web interface is pretty capable nowadays [07:52] at least on the ones i've worked with, haven't worked with the RBs they use on the WUGs [07:52] ya i skrik with anything that says win [07:52] actually, we just bought an RB for work, and I'm trying to set it up [07:54] if you get stuck, Lance can help you out when he gets here [07:54] he's heavily involved in ctwug, done all our RB configs [07:54] he even got Mikrotik certified last year sometime [07:55] i think the whole setup thing is in here superfly [07:55] http://ptawug.co.za/site/gettingstarted/ [07:55] Kilos: probably not what I'm looking for, but worth a gander anyways ;-) [07:55] .:Vince-0:. oh? I thought Mikrotik uses an open OS <<--- Definitely not open [07:55] i read myself sick yesterday [07:56] ThatGraemeGuy: winbox should control all RouterOS's [07:57] if you want easy to setup though. you may be able to connect using some Ubiquiti equipment [07:57] but you'd have to confirm that with them [07:57] it does point to point and point to multipoint really easily [07:58] Squirm, yup, what i meant was i'm not sure how the web interface compares on the RB433 which the WUG guys mostly use [07:59] ThatGraemeGuy: I think the OS is all the same across devices [07:59] ah ok [07:59] I think we use RB411 [07:59] (not for wug, but at work) [08:00] we have RB750, RB1100, RB1200. but i'm not the networks guy so that's pretty much the limit of what i know :D [08:42] Squirm, gotcha === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [08:45] hi Trix[a]r_za [10:11] well [10:11] cheers guys [10:11] see you all Monday sometime [10:11] * Squirm wanders off to Splashyfen === Squirm is now known as Squirm[A] [10:26] maaz where are you [10:27] cooweee [10:27] inetpro: you broke him?? [10:29] oh my crashkid gone too [10:36] wbb need to steal graphics card for a while === superfly_ is now known as superfly [11:53] hi Kilos [11:54] hi theblazehen [12:02] wow we are min here today [12:02] yea [12:03] you missed the news here. the egyptians caught guys trying to cut more undersea cables [12:03] I know [12:03] saw on hackernews [12:03] ah [12:04] did they give any particulars [12:04] didn't really read much [12:04] ok [12:04] http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/27/net-us-egypt-internet-idUSBRE92Q1AQ20130327 [12:04] ty [12:05] np [12:19] heh [12:19] there is more to do it than that [12:19] this whole thing is a complete mess [12:22] cable cuts + largest DDoS ever = quite a mess on the internet right now [12:23] largest ddos ever is proving to be a bit of an internet myth [12:23] rather than factual reality [12:23] Symmetria: in what way? [12:23] more like cloudflare and spamhaus overhyping and generating publicity for themselves [12:23] superfly meaning that a lot of the tier-1s are saying its b.s [12:23] ah, OK [12:23] that they aint seeing anywhere near the traffic they would be seeing if it was reality [13:02] Kilos: I broke no nothing [13:02] hehe sorry inetpro no coffee today [13:03] hi Kilos [13:03] hi inetpro [13:03] hi Symmetria [13:03] hi psyatw [13:04] I had an interview yesterday, which went well and tomorrow I'll have another one [13:04] and if I pass that one too, I'll probably be moving to Poland soon [13:04] good morning everyone :-) [13:07] good afternoon :) [13:09] oh shucks you're right, where did the time go? [13:10] we lost it somehwere on our way [14:17] thats good psyatw with internet we hope [14:23] thanks Kilos [14:23] yes, with internet once I move into my home there [14:23] yay. no internet sucks hey [14:24] it does [14:24] but in a way it doesn't [14:24] it gave me a bit of a taste of my pre-internet lifestyle [14:24] so I've been reading a lot lately and not just about computer stuff [14:31] lol and tv [14:32] I don't watch much tv in the first place :D [14:32] hi QA [14:32] hi Mezenir [14:33] QA: coffee on [14:33] * QA starts grinding coffee [14:33] hi tonberry352_ [14:33] oh [14:33] it's one of those :D [14:33] hehe [14:33] yip my one [14:33] cool [14:33] later version than maaz [14:34] and the weeds pet project [14:34] ah, I see [14:34] so this is the new maaz [14:34] if she doesn't prove to be a defective clone [14:34] maaz seems to be one of those cut off with the undersea cable probs [14:35] no she is better [14:35] but not as learned yet [14:35] education takes time [14:35] QA: wb [14:35] Ya ya man I'm not the one disconnecting or crashing the pc [14:36] aha [14:36] QA: whatcha doin'? [14:36] psyatw: *blink* [14:36] :D [14:36] QA: don't keep blinking all the time or we'll all get dizzy! [14:36] psyatw: *blink* [14:37] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [14:37] QA: ty [14:37] You're welcome Kilos [14:54] wheeeeeeeeeeee [14:54] east africa now accessible via jinx [15:05] afternoon all [15:07] hello magespawn [15:07] afternoon [15:08] how things? i see you might be going to poland soon [15:11] Kilos: ping [15:15] heh [15:15] who wants to see something awesome [15:15] --- graphs.kdn.co.ke ping statistics --- [15:15] 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss [15:15] round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 63.114/63.181/63.220/0.047 ms [15:15] look at the latency to kenya ;p [15:15] ftw [15:17] hi magespawn [15:17] pong sorry [15:18] magespawn, yeah, I'm doing fine, thanks. and if everything goes well, I may be leaving very soon indeed. how are you? [15:24] good just a bit tired been on the road today [15:25] Hye Kilos where is Maaz? I see QA has taken over duty [15:25] something happened to maaz and the crashkid magespawn [15:25] maybe something to do with sea cables [15:26] maybe we cut off from that part of the states [15:38] kzn release party? [15:38] * Cantide is keen! [15:39] sounds like an idea, but where? [15:39] idk [15:39] someone on the mailing list suggested it [15:40] okay will have a look [15:40] ah [15:40] the release is on the 25th of May [15:41] i mean 25th of April [15:41] =_= [15:41] so we have some time to organise things then [15:45] yeah :) [15:45] you a long way from ballito or umhlanga magespawn [15:46] will have to travel [15:46] indeed Kilos, but i might be able to make it [15:46] i am quite far from Ballito [15:46] that will be good [15:46] Umhlanga, too, but it's not too bad [15:46] i think Umhlanga would be more centralised for us [15:47] i forget which one is more north [15:47] Ballito [15:48] brb [16:02] back [16:03] would be nice to attend a release party [16:04] see you all later, home time [16:13] hi aquarat [16:13] lol [16:13] hi Kilos [16:13] howzit going ? [16:13] ok ty and you? [16:13] i am oraait [16:13] :P [16:15] good [16:20] wb cocooncrash [16:28] the jippos got you [16:30] hehe aquarat_ you the yoyo tonight [16:48] hi zeref [16:48] hey Kilos [16:48] hey magespawn [16:49] * magespawn is home alone watching the matrix and eating steers [16:49] where is the family? [16:50] visiting her parents [16:50] the matrix was really good [16:50] ah [16:50] indeed [16:50] the net sick, but not for everyone [17:00] time to ignore joins/parts i see [17:12] but weird that its only some [17:12] mobile maybe with timeout if you quiet [17:13] aquarat_: ping [17:13] what you using [17:15] he be away looks like [17:15] wow [17:15] somewhat unstable === aquarat__ is now known as aquarat [17:15] what are you using aquarat [17:15] ECMP with two dsl line and 8ta 3g via a wifi router [17:16] ecmp? [17:16] I think this particular link is going through the 8ta link [17:16] equal cost multi path [17:16] it's a way of distributing data over various links without bonding them [17:16] try setting it so you dont go away [17:16] it's an experiment [17:16] lol [17:16] you miss what i mean [17:16] um [17:17] oh [17:17] I see it's now on axxess [17:17] so via dsl [17:17] like in pidgin you can set away as available all the time [17:17] hopefully it'll be stabler [17:17] oh right [17:17] I've been marked as away [17:17] im just guessing [17:18] ohhhh [17:18] try setting the away time to hours if you cant make it available all the time [17:18] what client I'm using [17:18] xchat [17:18] ya that too [17:18] i think in xchat you can also lengthen the time [17:19] im on konversation now [17:19] no more unity [17:19] lol kde [17:19] ergh [17:19] unity [17:19] :P [17:19] i actually like kubuntu [17:19] it looks like a copy of mac osx [17:19] never seen mac [17:19] well [17:19] it's very similar [17:20] okay not that similar [17:20] there are common attributes [17:20] i tried xubuntu ans lubuntu but kde is better [17:20] I always found kde to look great [17:20] but to be very bloated [17:20] maybe it's changed ? [17:20] got lots more that you can do if you get help to work it out [17:21] hehe [17:21] it is a bit slower than unity but installs apps faster [17:21] more efficient once going [17:21] I just use apt-get for app installs [17:22] i have over 5g of the packages so its 1 click on them and it opens the installer [17:22] mmm [17:22] but even muon is faster than synaptic [17:22] k [17:22] so [17:23] you have all the packages already downloaded ? [17:23] and when you want one you manually navigate to it and execute it ? [17:23] yeah i dont delete anything [17:23] lol [17:23] so you don't use repos ? [17:23] i rsync them to archives [17:23] ah ok [17:23] thank goodness [17:23] :P [17:23] lol [17:24] I rsynced all the raspberry pi raspbian repos [17:24] sudo clean install and update upgrade is under 30mB [17:24] but I download everything else on demand [17:25] ive installed so many times i woulda needed mega data [17:25] rsync to storage from the beginning [17:26] i even have mate packages [17:26] hehe [17:26] cos of unity probably... [17:26] lol im a miser [17:26] yeah and also on lubuntu. works better there [17:27] see while you chatting you dont part/join [17:28] on some clients you can set away to never [17:29] I part and rejoin regularly ? [17:29] I think you mean timeout and reconnect? [17:29] it's not dying now because it's randomly selected a dsl link rather than a 3g link [17:29] ... it was my hope that 3g would be fast for browsing [17:30] ah [17:30] when you part join it shows here but when you chat no more part join [17:31] some kinda timeout thing [17:31] k [17:31] that's weird [17:31] auto-away isn't set [17:31] I never have it set [17:31] i will need to get xchat to see what i did [17:32] well [17:32] also dont set idle after "time" either [17:32] looking at my server logs [17:33] it clearly states that I disconnected and then reconnected a couple of times [17:33] and that's why my nick changed [17:33] couple?? [17:34] 8 times looks like [17:34] someone a coupla weeks ago filled pages of part/joins [17:34] well [17:34] oops :/ [17:35] np its just interesting to me to find the cause [17:35] cool [17:35] problem solver :) [17:36] it's due to the funky 8ta 3g link :P [17:36] we try [17:36] aw i got a good one [17:36] and it's not doing it now because when the client reconnected it was handed a different route [17:36] ah [17:36] :) [17:36] the alternative is bonding [17:36] which [17:37] has turned out to be... okay [17:37] pros and cons [17:38] well at least itnis sorted [17:39] aquarat: have tried quassel [17:39] nope [17:39] I only know xchat and mirc :P) [17:39] I gotta go though [17:40] I'll disconnect to keep the peace ;) [17:40] chat soon [17:40] cool np [17:40] ai [17:41] ai? [17:42] he just left. im trying to pinpoint a cause [17:42] he said it was his 8ta 3g [17:42] how do you see that [17:43] that is what he said [17:44] * Cantide is on 8ta 3G [17:44] ya but how do you see it [17:44] i don't [17:44] my nm says disconnected [17:44] i mean him [17:44] depends on his setup [17:45] how does he see it [17:47] loks like he was distributing his system over multiple connections, his system will tell him which connection each program is using [17:47] s/loks/looks [17:47] you peeps too clever [17:47] you are clever too [17:47] slim vang sy baas [17:48] but you have a way not to show it to people, that's the cleverest thing someone can do [17:48] nope psyatw i come here for clever things [17:48] ai [17:49] indeed it is a very rare talent that one [17:49] im so angry magespawn [17:49] why Kilos? [17:49] built up the courage to flash ians bios and the flooppies wont boot [17:50] and his pc has not power plug for floppy [17:50] any indication why? [17:50]