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hyprvxHello, how can I force an update through the 12.10 update manager to 13.04?00:29
k1lupdate-manager -d00:29
k1ld for developer version00:29
hyprvxThank you k1l00:30
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ryaxnbi like ubuntu 13.04!02:51
ryaxnbwhy are my window icons on the right side?03:19
ryaxnbi just installed gdm, gnome 3 and icewm is on display:103:19
ryaxnbany of those cause it?03:19
ryaxnbi expect them to be on the left in unity03:19
ryaxnbHALP LOL!03:23
ryaxnb15any ideas?03:50
ryaxnb15what really bothers me about linux these days03:50
ryaxnb15is how incompatible GNOME 3 and Unity are03:50
ryaxnb15the tender harmony of freedesktop has been disturbed03:51
IdleOnenot sure how they are incompatible when Unity runs on top of gnome 303:52
ryaxnb15i mean, running both at once is very difficult precisely because of A)03:53
ryaxnb15er, precisely because of that.03:53
ryaxnb15i just installed GNOME 3, set my theme back to Ambiance03:53
ryaxnb15and i still can't get unity to function right.03:53
IdleOneyou mean snome shell03:53
ryaxnb15yeah.03:53
IdleOnegnome*03:53
ryaxnb15used to be you could change DE easily through freedesktop03:53
ryaxnb15and there were standard DE-agnostic DMs03:54
ryaxnb15now each DE requires its DM03:54
ryaxnb15and each DE seems stupidly tied to it's own themes and stuff03:54
ryaxnb15i've gotten used to changing themes everytime i run Gnome DE03:54
ryaxnb15now it seems i have install the overlay scrollbars when i want Unity DE and uninstall them for GNOME DE03:54
ryaxnb15we need some standardization here.03:55
ryaxnb15so that all the processes necessary to change DEs happen when you choose a session in a DM that should ideally be agnostic. Failing that, make choosing DMs not require a reboot and make lightdm stop sucking.03:55
ryaxnb15right now i have to coax Ubuntu into becoming GNOME 3/Shellified in several steps, and then coax it back into being a Unity box every time i switch03:56
ryaxnb15 the problem with lightdm is that it doesn't support more than ~8 session types and you can't choose which ones appear03:57
ryaxnb15so it's too buggy for me to use once i've installed MATE, GNOME 3, Unity, Xubuntu, Cinnamon, Icewm, and Lubuntu03:57
elkyhrm, anyone else having the unity dash not revealing sometimes? as in not even the shadow appears?04:11
elkynot sure if the silly elantech mouse or unity04:12
elkys/mouse/trackpad/04:12
bjsniderryaxnb15, the split between gnome and ubuntu is only likely to increase04:27
bjsnideras it has been increasing so far, i don't see why it shouldn't continue to increase04:27
Valtamis there a mini cd for 13.04?07:46
doodahDEBUG:duplicity:Giving up on request after 5 attempts, last status 400 Bad Request07:48
wilee-nileeValtam, I am not seeing one I believe the mini's are on releases. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD07:51
Valtamthanks07:52
Valtamso what is 'raring core' ?07:52
wilee-nileeValtam, Not sure, how is it referenced?07:53
Valtamwilee-nilee, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/current/07:56
wilee-nileeValtam, Not sure to be honest. ;)07:58
Valtamhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core07:58
wilee-nileeValtam, Thanks that gives somewhat of an explanation, it is a tiny download in a tar, so as a guess it seems to be similiar to a mini as in a net install, I would wonder if it is exactly live the mini in choice of installs of servers or desktops...etc08:03
wilee-nilees/live/like08:03
Valtamthere is a procedure to install it but tbh I can't be bothered :)08:04
wilee-nileeValtam, Seems for specific use not sure what though as a regular user, the net installs though I believe are how you get the non pae kernels or at least has been.08:05
wilee-nileeor server installs08:06
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supertoughanyone running ubuntu 13.04?10:47
supertoughi'm having problem with amd hd 7850 card10:47
bekksIn this channel, pretty much everyone runs it.10:47
supertoughafter installed the proprietary driver i get a message saying failed to loaded session gnome10:47
bekksHow do you install which driver exactly?10:48
supertoughsudo sh *.sh --force10:48
supertoughsudo ./*.sh to remove watermark10:48
steveireCan anyone help me come up with some workaround/more info for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1161655 ?10:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1161655 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wired and wireless networking don't work after upgrade" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:48
bekkssupertough: Whatever that might broke.10:49
supertoughit seems like the amd driver i download is not compatible with 13.04 yet10:49
supertoughright now i'm back to 12.1010:50
bekksDid you check the logs?10:50
supertoughon my HP desktop i also got a amd 5450 card10:51
supertoughno problem with that one10:51
bekksDid you check the logs?10:51
supertoughi did10:51
supertoughbut have no idea how to fix the error10:51
bekksSo whats the probloem in the logs? module not found, etc.?10:51
supertoughi can't recalled it i just reinstalled with 12.10 on my desktop10:52
bekksSo you dont even have a support issue then, now?10:53
supertoughsh: 1: inxi: not found10:53
bekksI bet that not an error fro the X logs.10:53
supertoughtrying to show my video card10:55
supertoughsh: 1: inxi: not found10:56
supertoughsh: 1: inxi: not found10:56
bekksHow do you try to show your video card?10:57
bekkslspci | grep VGA10:57
supertoughCPU:       Quad core Intel Core i7-3770 CPU (-HT-MCP-) cache 8192 KB flags (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips 27138.211:05
supertough           Clock Speeds: 1: 1600.00 MHz 2: 1600.00 MHz 3: 1600.00 MHz 4: 1600.00 MHz 5: 1600.00 MHz 6: 1600.00 MHz 7: 3401.00 MHz 8: 1600.00 MHz11:05
supertoughGraphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI PITCAIRN PRO [Radeon HD 7800 Series] bus-ID 01:00.011:05
supertough           X.Org 1.13.0 driver fglrx Resolution 1680x1050@59.9hz11:05
supertough           GLX Renderer AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series GLX Version 4.2.12172 - CPC 12.10.17 Direct Rendering Yes11:05
bekksSTOP11:05
bekksThis is not a pastebin!11:05
bekksAnd that wasnt the output of lspci | VGA either.11:06
supertoughi just want to know if someone manage to get ubuntu 13.04 working on amd hd 7850 card11:08
supertoughif you did can you tell how?11:08
steveireIs there some way to find out what configs I've changed from the default configuration?12:17
steveirepowertop seems to have changed a few things for me, and I wonder what else is non-default by now12:18
steveireRelating to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/116165512:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1161655 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wired and wireless networking don't work after upgrade" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:18
BluesKajHappy Easter all12:49
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steveireyofel: fyi my networking issues are now solved. I have wired and wireless again, but there's certainly still bugs somewhere: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1161655 Thanks for the help13:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1161655 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wired and wireless networking don't work after upgrade" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:42
yofelinteresting. Good that you at least got it to work though13:44
steveireYep. Interesting journey of discovery.13:49
penguin42hmm I didn't no powertop would do persistent13:52
* penguin42 would probably check /etc/sysctl.d to see if it put anything in there13:54
yofelhe didn't say whether "before" was in the same session or before a reboot13:54
yofeland this looks like it would fail the moment you enable runtime PM13:54
yofelguess I can test it later13:54
ritzhi, wallpaper aint loading up on raring as of today13:57
ritzwith unity13:57
penguin42yofel: That stuff is very hardware specific13:57
yofelprobably. I do at least e1000e, so might as well give it a try13:58
yofel*at least use13:58
chunkyheaddid ubuntu 13.04 final beta freeze release yesterday?13:58
yofelchunkyhead: freeze yes, release no13:58
yofelbeta release is april 4th13:59
chunkyheadwait what is freeze?13:59
yofelchunkyhead: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BetaFreeze14:00
chunkyheadcan anyone help me out with the 13.04's torrent download link?14:00
yofelwhich image are you looking for?14:01
chunkyheadi386 yofel14:02
yofelchunkyhead: if you're looking for a current install image you'll find it here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/14:02
yofeltorrents aren't available until beta release14:02
chunkyheadoh i didnt know that, you mean beta final release? yofel14:03
yofelyes14:03
yofelthere will be torrents for the beta images14:03
chunkyheadalright thanks a ton mate :D14:05
chunkyheadbtw whats the difference between beta 1 release and beta final? just less bug prone right?14:06
yofelyes, they're just at different points in time14:06
yofelubuntu had on beta1 btw.14:06
yofel*no14:07
chunkyheadand one more thing, the link you sent me, i386 one is giving me a 404 -____- http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/www/full/daily-live/20130328/raring-desktop-i386.iso14:07
yofelweird, click on the image below, that has the correct link14:08
chunkyhead404 again14:09
chunkyheadfor amd14:09
chunkyheadserver crashed?14:09
bekksdont you have a 64bit computer?14:12
yofelchunkyhead:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/raring-desktop-i386.iso gives you a 404?14:12
chunkyheadI LOVE YOU. thanks a tone14:13
chunkyheadtonne*14:13
harrisrlink to be emailed when final version comes out15:08
hyprvxHello, I upgraded to Raring and now the computer no longer boots16:13
hyprvxIt's just a plain black screen16:13
hyprvxThe screen goes off, and moving the mouse brings it back on, but it's still a plain black screen16:14
hyprvxAttempting to go into commandline mode does not work16:14
hyprvxOkay, some of you would be good at #IdleRPG, but I seriously need help16:16
IdleOnehyprvx: answer may be slow to come, long holiday weekend for many people16:18
k1lhmm, dont know. but your videocard and the used driver could help16:19
hyprvxI just upgraded from Quantal last night, and it was doing this after the upgrade16:21
hyprvxafter rebooting16:21
hyprvxif it's of any help, the computer is a CR-48 modified to run the InsydeH2O BIOS16:22
IdleOnewhat GPU?16:25
hyprvxIntel Atom16:29
hyprvxwait, that's a G16:30
hyprvxit's some integrated Intel GPU16:30
hyprvxsorry, my monitor makes C's and G's look almost the same16:31
IdleOnelspci | grep VGA16:32
IdleOnethat is a G not a C16:32
hyprvxagain, this monitor and font makes me confuse Cs and Gs16:33
bazhanginfo linux19:45
bazhang!info linux19:45
ubottulinux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.0.15.30 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB19:45
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rymate1234yo20:39
rymate1234just installed gnome 3.820:39
rymate1234man is it siiiiiick20:39
rymate1234apart from this one annoying error with gnome tweak tool http://pastebin.com/fWuaMkVd20:40
wilee-nileerymate1234, Got it instaled cool. ;)20:40
rymate1234lol20:40
rymate1234error only occurs in classic mode20:45
bjsnidergnome 3.8 isn't available in ubuntu yet20:49
bjsnidernot until the next cycle20:49
rymate1234ok20:57
supertoughhow do you check version of gnome?21:14
bazhang!info gnome-common21:15
ubottugnome-common (source: gnome-common): common scripts and macros to develop with GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.0-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 16 kB, installed size 194 kB21:15
bazhangsupertough, ^21:15
wilee-nileegnome-shell --version21:16
supertough_thats mine GNOME-Shell 3.6.221:17
supertough_check out my distro21:17
supertough_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kq_I52oteQ21:17
bazhangsupertough_, thats not on topic here21:18
supertough_okay is there a way to make my system run ubuntu 13.0421:19
supertough_after i installed amd hd 7850 driver it said failed to loaded session gnome21:20
supertough_i'm stuck at the login screen21:20
supertough_and when I sudo apt-get purge lens* alt+f2 become useless21:21
bjsnidera lot of people have been talking about login issues the past couple of days21:21
supertough_i also love to get rid of that overlay-scrollbar21:22
bjsnidergiven the holidays i don't know if a fix will be forthcoming very soon21:22
supertough_and is there a way to keep the global menu from disappearing?21:22
supertough_will there be settings to make unity on the left move to the bottom?21:23
supertough_i really dislike left left left21:23
wilee-nileesupertough_, There was but it is a hck so no.21:23
supertough_wilee thats what i dont want a hack to get everything working the way i like.21:24
supertough_i mean a simple settings would be nice21:24
supertough_will there be more reliable support for google android on ubuntu 13.04?21:41
supertough_kinda of tricky to get my stuff off this lame android phone with mtp connection21:42
supertough_on windows 7 it just work21:43
supertough_no need for me to turn on the usb developer debugging21:43
supertough_any updates to get flawless MTP support?21:44
wilee-nileesupertough_, My droid shows right up, what is the rom on the android?21:44
supertough_i think mine is ics when i updated this thing it starts to use the MTP instead of usb connection21:45
supertough_4.1.121:45
wilee-nileesupertough_, What release are you running this is the 13.04 channel?21:48
supertough_ubuntu 12.1021:48
supertough_gnome-shell --version21:48
wilee-nileesupertough_, You need #ubuntu for that release.21:48
supertough_its ubuntu21:49
wilee-nileesupertough_, Correct but this is the development channel for 13.04 specifically. ;)21:49
supertough_suggestion MTP support more settings for Unity21:50
wilee-nileesupertough, I'm surprised the android device does not just mount with a plugin, it may be theOEM version21:50
supertough_more options to disable useless Lens21:50
supertough_i had no problem hooking this up to windows 721:50
wilee-nileesupertough_, Do you have in androids developer option usb debuging ticked?21:52
supertough_did that trick21:52
supertough_nothing still.21:52
wilee-nileesupertough_, Well anyway this is the wrong channel so I can't resond anymore, nor do I know the answer, lol. ;)21:53
supertough_i know just want to let the devs know my problem that's all21:53
supertough_hopefully this get some work around on the next release21:53
wilee-nileeCool21:53
supertough_ubuntu 13.04 refused to work with my amd hd 7850 so I can't test any farther21:55
ironhalikHello22:04
ironhalikI've got a small problem with eclipse22:04
ironhalikin the package explorer, item that is selected has white font on grey background, when the explorer is not the active window22:05
ironhalikAFAIK, the settings regarding fonts and colors there are controlled by gnome, not by eclipse22:05
ironhalikon light grey background*22:06
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AndChat237204hello22:21
AndChat23720413.04 is here!22:21
r0OOti discover a new exploit in ubuntu   http://rooot.dyndns-server.com/23:42
bekksr0OOt: Stop it.23:42
bekksYou've been banned seconds ago for posting that nonsense already.23:42
ironhalik!danger23:59
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!23:59

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