[00:29] Hello, how can I force an update through the 12.10 update manager to 13.04? [00:29] update-manager -d [00:29] d for developer version [00:30] Thank you k1l === Fyodorovna is now known as wilee-nilee [02:51] i like ubuntu 13.04! [03:19] why are my window icons on the right side? [03:19] i just installed gdm, gnome 3 and icewm is on display:1 [03:19] any of those cause it? [03:19] i expect them to be on the left in unity [03:23] HALP LOL! [03:50] any ideas? [03:50] what really bothers me about linux these days [03:50] is how incompatible GNOME 3 and Unity are [03:51] the tender harmony of freedesktop has been disturbed [03:52] not sure how they are incompatible when Unity runs on top of gnome 3 [03:53] i mean, running both at once is very difficult precisely because of A) [03:53] er, precisely because of that. [03:53] i just installed GNOME 3, set my theme back to Ambiance [03:53] and i still can't get unity to function right. [03:53] you mean snome shell [03:53] yeah. [03:53] gnome* [03:53] used to be you could change DE easily through freedesktop [03:54] and there were standard DE-agnostic DMs [03:54] now each DE requires its DM [03:54] and each DE seems stupidly tied to it's own themes and stuff [03:54] i've gotten used to changing themes everytime i run Gnome DE [03:54] now it seems i have install the overlay scrollbars when i want Unity DE and uninstall them for GNOME DE [03:55] we need some standardization here. [03:55] so that all the processes necessary to change DEs happen when you choose a session in a DM that should ideally be agnostic. Failing that, make choosing DMs not require a reboot and make lightdm stop sucking. [03:56] right now i have to coax Ubuntu into becoming GNOME 3/Shellified in several steps, and then coax it back into being a Unity box every time i switch [03:57] the problem with lightdm is that it doesn't support more than ~8 session types and you can't choose which ones appear [03:57] so it's too buggy for me to use once i've installed MATE, GNOME 3, Unity, Xubuntu, Cinnamon, Icewm, and Lubuntu [04:11] hrm, anyone else having the unity dash not revealing sometimes? as in not even the shadow appears? [04:12] not sure if the silly elantech mouse or unity [04:12] s/mouse/trackpad/ [04:27] ryaxnb15, the split between gnome and ubuntu is only likely to increase [04:27] as it has been increasing so far, i don't see why it shouldn't continue to increase [07:46] is there a mini cd for 13.04? [07:48] DEBUG:duplicity:Giving up on request after 5 attempts, last status 400 Bad Request [07:51] Valtam, I am not seeing one I believe the mini's are on releases. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [07:52] thanks [07:52] so what is 'raring core' ? [07:53] Valtam, Not sure, how is it referenced? [07:56] wilee-nilee, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/current/ [07:58] Valtam, Not sure to be honest. ;) [07:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core [08:03] Valtam, Thanks that gives somewhat of an explanation, it is a tiny download in a tar, so as a guess it seems to be similiar to a mini as in a net install, I would wonder if it is exactly live the mini in choice of installs of servers or desktops...etc [08:03] s/live/like [08:04] there is a procedure to install it but tbh I can't be bothered :) [08:05] Valtam, Seems for specific use not sure what though as a regular user, the net installs though I believe are how you get the non pae kernels or at least has been. [08:06] or server installs === ToBeFree is now known as SoulOfTheInterne === SoulOfTheInterne is now known as ToBeFree [10:47] anyone running ubuntu 13.04? [10:47] i'm having problem with amd hd 7850 card [10:47] In this channel, pretty much everyone runs it. [10:47] after installed the proprietary driver i get a message saying failed to loaded session gnome [10:48] How do you install which driver exactly? [10:48] sudo sh *.sh --force [10:48] sudo ./*.sh to remove watermark [10:48] Can anyone help me come up with some workaround/more info for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1161655 ? [10:48] Launchpad bug 1161655 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wired and wireless networking don't work after upgrade" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:49] supertough: Whatever that might broke. [10:49] it seems like the amd driver i download is not compatible with 13.04 yet [10:50] right now i'm back to 12.10 [10:50] Did you check the logs? [10:51] on my HP desktop i also got a amd 5450 card [10:51] no problem with that one [10:51] Did you check the logs? [10:51] i did [10:51] but have no idea how to fix the error [10:51] So whats the probloem in the logs? module not found, etc.? [10:52] i can't recalled it i just reinstalled with 12.10 on my desktop [10:53] So you dont even have a support issue then, now? [10:53] sh: 1: inxi: not found [10:53] I bet that not an error fro the X logs. [10:55] trying to show my video card [10:56] sh: 1: inxi: not found [10:56] sh: 1: inxi: not found [10:57] How do you try to show your video card? [10:57] lspci | grep VGA [11:05] CPU: Quad core Intel Core i7-3770 CPU (-HT-MCP-) cache 8192 KB flags (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips 27138.2 [11:05] Clock Speeds: 1: 1600.00 MHz 2: 1600.00 MHz 3: 1600.00 MHz 4: 1600.00 MHz 5: 1600.00 MHz 6: 1600.00 MHz 7: 3401.00 MHz 8: 1600.00 MHz [11:05] Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI PITCAIRN PRO [Radeon HD 7800 Series] bus-ID 01:00.0 [11:05] X.Org 1.13.0 driver fglrx Resolution 1680x1050@59.9hz [11:05] GLX Renderer AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series GLX Version 4.2.12172 - CPC 12.10.17 Direct Rendering Yes [11:05] STOP [11:05] This is not a pastebin! [11:06] And that wasnt the output of lspci | VGA either. [11:08] i just want to know if someone manage to get ubuntu 13.04 working on amd hd 7850 card [11:08] if you did can you tell how? [12:17] Is there some way to find out what configs I've changed from the default configuration? [12:18] powertop seems to have changed a few things for me, and I wonder what else is non-default by now [12:18] Relating to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1161655 [12:18] Launchpad bug 1161655 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wired and wireless networking don't work after upgrade" [Undecided,Confirmed] [12:49] Happy Easter all === brot_ is now known as brot === murthy_ is now known as murthy === murthy is now known as murthy_ [13:42] yofel: fyi my networking issues are now solved. I have wired and wireless again, but there's certainly still bugs somewhere: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1161655 Thanks for the help [13:42] Launchpad bug 1161655 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wired and wireless networking don't work after upgrade" [Undecided,Confirmed] [13:44] interesting. Good that you at least got it to work though [13:49] Yep. Interesting journey of discovery. [13:52] hmm I didn't no powertop would do persistent [13:54] * penguin42 would probably check /etc/sysctl.d to see if it put anything in there [13:54] he didn't say whether "before" was in the same session or before a reboot [13:54] and this looks like it would fail the moment you enable runtime PM [13:54] guess I can test it later [13:57] hi, wallpaper aint loading up on raring as of today [13:57] with unity [13:57] yofel: That stuff is very hardware specific [13:58] probably. I do at least e1000e, so might as well give it a try [13:58] *at least use [13:58] did ubuntu 13.04 final beta freeze release yesterday? [13:58] chunkyhead: freeze yes, release no [13:59] beta release is april 4th [13:59] wait what is freeze? [14:00] chunkyhead: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BetaFreeze [14:00] can anyone help me out with the 13.04's torrent download link? [14:01] which image are you looking for? [14:02] i386 yofel [14:02] chunkyhead: if you're looking for a current install image you'll find it here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [14:02] torrents aren't available until beta release [14:03] oh i didnt know that, you mean beta final release? yofel [14:03] yes [14:03] there will be torrents for the beta images [14:05] alright thanks a ton mate :D [14:06] btw whats the difference between beta 1 release and beta final? just less bug prone right? [14:06] yes, they're just at different points in time [14:06] ubuntu had on beta1 btw. [14:07] *no [14:07] and one more thing, the link you sent me, i386 one is giving me a 404 -____- http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/www/full/daily-live/20130328/raring-desktop-i386.iso [14:08] weird, click on the image below, that has the correct link [14:09] 404 again [14:09] for amd [14:09] server crashed? [14:12] dont you have a 64bit computer? [14:12] chunkyhead: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/raring-desktop-i386.iso gives you a 404? [14:13] I LOVE YOU. thanks a tone [14:13] tonne* [15:08] link to be emailed when final version comes out [16:13] Hello, I upgraded to Raring and now the computer no longer boots [16:13] It's just a plain black screen [16:14] The screen goes off, and moving the mouse brings it back on, but it's still a plain black screen [16:14] Attempting to go into commandline mode does not work [16:16] Okay, some of you would be good at #IdleRPG, but I seriously need help [16:18] hyprvx: answer may be slow to come, long holiday weekend for many people [16:19] hmm, dont know. but your videocard and the used driver could help [16:21] I just upgraded from Quantal last night, and it was doing this after the upgrade [16:21] after rebooting [16:22] if it's of any help, the computer is a CR-48 modified to run the InsydeH2O BIOS [16:25] what GPU? [16:29] Intel Atom [16:30] wait, that's a G [16:30] it's some integrated Intel GPU [16:31] sorry, my monitor makes C's and G's look almost the same [16:32] lspci | grep VGA [16:32] that is a G not a C [16:33] again, this monitor and font makes me confuse Cs and Gs [19:45] info linux [19:45] !info linux [19:45] linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.0.15.30 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB === hays_ is now known as hays === Rallias is now known as Rallias-Plugged [20:39] yo [20:39] just installed gnome 3.8 [20:39] man is it siiiiiick [20:40] apart from this one annoying error with gnome tweak tool http://pastebin.com/fWuaMkVd [20:40] rymate1234, Got it instaled cool. ;) [20:40] lol [20:45] error only occurs in classic mode [20:49] gnome 3.8 isn't available in ubuntu yet [20:49] not until the next cycle [20:57] ok [21:14] how do you check version of gnome? [21:15] !info gnome-common [21:15] gnome-common (source: gnome-common): common scripts and macros to develop with GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.0-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 16 kB, installed size 194 kB [21:15] supertough, ^ [21:16] gnome-shell --version [21:17] thats mine GNOME-Shell 3.6.2 [21:17] check out my distro [21:17] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kq_I52oteQ [21:18] supertough_, thats not on topic here [21:19] okay is there a way to make my system run ubuntu 13.04 [21:20] after i installed amd hd 7850 driver it said failed to loaded session gnome [21:20] i'm stuck at the login screen [21:21] and when I sudo apt-get purge lens* alt+f2 become useless [21:21] a lot of people have been talking about login issues the past couple of days [21:22] i also love to get rid of that overlay-scrollbar [21:22] given the holidays i don't know if a fix will be forthcoming very soon [21:22] and is there a way to keep the global menu from disappearing? [21:23] will there be settings to make unity on the left move to the bottom? [21:23] i really dislike left left left [21:23] supertough_, There was but it is a hck so no. [21:24] wilee thats what i dont want a hack to get everything working the way i like. [21:24] i mean a simple settings would be nice [21:41] will there be more reliable support for google android on ubuntu 13.04? [21:42] kinda of tricky to get my stuff off this lame android phone with mtp connection [21:43] on windows 7 it just work [21:43] no need for me to turn on the usb developer debugging [21:44] any updates to get flawless MTP support? [21:44] supertough_, My droid shows right up, what is the rom on the android? [21:45] i think mine is ics when i updated this thing it starts to use the MTP instead of usb connection [21:45] 4.1.1 [21:48] supertough_, What release are you running this is the 13.04 channel? [21:48] ubuntu 12.10 [21:48] gnome-shell --version [21:48] supertough_, You need #ubuntu for that release. [21:49] its ubuntu [21:49] supertough_, Correct but this is the development channel for 13.04 specifically. ;) [21:50] suggestion MTP support more settings for Unity [21:50] supertough, I'm surprised the android device does not just mount with a plugin, it may be theOEM version [21:50] more options to disable useless Lens [21:50] i had no problem hooking this up to windows 7 [21:52] supertough_, Do you have in androids developer option usb debuging ticked? [21:52] did that trick [21:52] nothing still. [21:53] supertough_, Well anyway this is the wrong channel so I can't resond anymore, nor do I know the answer, lol. ;) [21:53] i know just want to let the devs know my problem that's all [21:53] hopefully this get some work around on the next release [21:53] Cool [21:55] ubuntu 13.04 refused to work with my amd hd 7850 so I can't test any farther [22:04] Hello [22:04] I've got a small problem with eclipse [22:05] in the package explorer, item that is selected has white font on grey background, when the explorer is not the active window [22:05] AFAIK, the settings regarding fonts and colors there are controlled by gnome, not by eclipse [22:06] on light grey background* === Rallias-Plugged is now known as Rallias [22:21] hello [22:21] 13.04 is here! [23:42] i discover a new exploit in ubuntu http://rooot.dyndns-server.com/ [23:42] r0OOt: Stop it. [23:42] You've been banned seconds ago for posting that nonsense already. [23:59] !danger [23:59] DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!