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micahgchrisccoulson: 50k wasn't the problem (I agreed in that case), it seemed to be ballooning though which is why I was rethinking doing something about it, but then when it hit the archive, it dropped back to 50k01:04
micahgalso, there's a difference between the globalmenu package which already has another DE that can consume it (KDE plasma) and the unity integration for webapps which no other DE seems to want01:07
mlankhorstmorninggg07:43
jibelgood morning07:46
didrockshey mlankhorst, jibel!07:46
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ollididrocks, ping13:35
didrockshey olli13:36
ollididrocks, did the experimental PPA have everything needed for in dash payments?13:36
didrocksolli: you mean in dash payments only?13:38
didrocksolli: I didn't receive any branch from OLS13:38
ollino13:38
didrocksolli: ah, yeah, all 100 scopes + in dash payments is in the experimental PPA13:38
ollimy understanding from your comment in the in dash payment ffe, was.... ok, what you just said13:38
attentewhen uploading to a ppa, is there a way to depend on another package within the same ppa?13:55
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didrocksattente: do you mean build-dep?14:12
didrocksattente: or just a traditional dep?14:12
didrocksattente: normally if you upload A14:12
didrocksthen B is build-dep on A14:12
didrocksif A is built in the same ppa, B will use A from the ppa14:12
didrocksxnox: hey14:22
didrocksxnox: I guess you got my spreadsheet's email14:23
xnoxdidrocks: hola =)14:23
xnoxHmm...14:23
* xnox checks email14:23
didrocksit was this morning :)14:23
xnoxdidrocks: don't see anything.14:23
didrocksinteresting, mterry you did get an email with my explanations in it?14:24
xnoxdidrocks: yesterday I got emails delayed by ~30minutes and missed booking flights =(14:24
didrocksxnox: well, that would be a delay by 7h14:25
didrocksxnox: you can almost go to SFO :)14:25
didrocksxnox: let me try resharing it with you14:25
didrocksxnox: done14:26
xnoxdidrocks: found it now.14:27
didrocksxnox: so, sorry, I don't have the message I sent again with it14:27
didrocksxnox: basically, the idea is to have this reminder of all the requirements for our AC14:27
didrocksso once all the columns for the components are set to "yes", we can consider the component ready to upload to ubuntu14:28
didrocksxnox: would be cool if (no hurry for this week, I guess you should be on holidays, right?) you can fill it in14:28
xnoxdidrocks: right. are we landing hybris and platform-api in the archive as well then?!14:29
didrocksxnox: I think not this cycle, apart if you can have everything set to "yes" quickly I think14:30
didrocksxnox: which TBH, I doubt in terms of integration tests, and so on :)14:30
xnoxdidrocks: I now got the new email from you =)14:30
didrocksbut yeah, if the AC are met, we can have daily releases even (for things we are upstream for)14:30
didrocksxnox: weird, I deleted/added you back…14:30
xnoxdidrocks: I will ponder about it. But I'm using holidays excuse card to do that next week =)14:31
didrocksxnox: well, you shouldn't even be connected IMHO :-)14:31
didrocksthanks xnox and enjoy your long week-end!14:31
mterrydidrocks, yeah, I got a notification from google about the spreadsheet14:31
didrocksok mterry, thanks for confirming :)14:32
xnoxdidrocks: meh. I'm not sure how slangasek was involved initially, but "foundations" involvement seems to be delegated to me on these packages ;-)14:32
didrocksxnox: yeah, there is still the vuds session where I put back our Acceptance Criteria we have for everything we are upstream for (not new, 1 year and half old!). If I knew you got the delegation, I would have invited your to the hangout.14:33
xnoxdidrocks: i'm not pretty enough for hangouts anyway =) ;-)14:34
ogra_just use a fishtank wallpaper ... that will distract people enough14:35
didrocksxnox: roh! :-)14:35
ogra_(animated fishtank indeed)14:36
didrocksogra_: there are also hangouts ui tweaks for that14:36
didrockswith the head tracking :)14:36
xnoxthe camera man for foundations team is cjwatson's ginger beard =))))14:36
ogra_:)14:36
didrocks:)14:36
didrockshey robru14:55
robrudidrocks, hey14:56
didrocksrobru: did you have a look at the spreadsheet? I think we can declare a WI DONE as I told there once all the fields are in green :)14:56
robruyeah, I had a look14:56
didrocksrobru: meaning, we need integration tests14:56
didrocksrobru: of if not, we need to tell why14:56
didrocksrobru: which I guess it's fine for qtubuntu-cameraplugin-fake14:57
didrocksrobru: as it's a mock, right?14:57
robrudidrocks, well, the -fake is literally just a stub, I don't think it needs much in the way of testing. think of it as part of the testing apparatus14:57
robruyeah14:57
didrocksrobru: yeah, can you please precise it in the cell?14:57
robrudidrocks, what do you mean?14:58
didrocksrobru: replace your "No" for integration tests with "No (but not really need as it's a stub)"14:58
didrocksrobru: perfect! thanks :)14:58
didrocksrobru: does this spreadsheet help to track what we need to check for each component?14:59
didrocks(and if you can think of anything else missing, feel free to edit :-))14:59
robrudidrocks, yeah, it's pretty good. Some of the column headers could be more specific but even as-is I would have loved to have this a week ago14:59
didrocksrobru: yeah, it was only told and pretty natural to me, as I'm in the Acceptance Criterias for a year and half15:00
didrocksrobru: I didn't realize that telling it in the hangout was so new for you guys :)15:00
didrockssorry, at least, we have a good base on building on!15:00
robrudidrocks, yeah, it's great15:03
robrumhall119, ping15:03
mhall119robru: pong15:12
robrumhall119, hey, can we delete this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-twitter-app/+spec/initial-twitter-development ? it's cancelled as far as I know15:12
robruit's showing up as a TODO ;-)15:12
mhall119robru: we're not actively persuing it anymore, no15:13
mhall119a TODO for who?15:13
mhall119oh, you have a WI I see15:13
robrumhall119, yeah15:13
mhall119robru: just remove your name15:13
robrumhall119, ok15:14
mhall119I'll mark the BP as obsolete, but leave it in LP in case anybody wants to reference back to it15:14
robruok15:14
robrubrb, breakfast15:16
didrocksrobru: enjoy!15:18
* ogra_ always though ubuntu touch people are obligated to use brunch ... 15:19
mhall119breakfast and brunch are not mutually exclusive15:23
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robrudidrocks, ping16:15
didrocksrobru: pong16:15
robrudidrocks, jenkins can make your debian/changelog for you if you have bugs filed, right?16:15
didrocksrobru: it's not jenkins, it's the daily release, yeah16:16
didrocksrobru: so if the component is daily releasing, either you attached the bug to the MP before it's merged16:16
didrocksor you can have it on your commit message16:16
didrockslike bzr commit -m "fixing foo (LP: #12345)"16:16
didrocksor even16:16
ubot2`Launchpad bug 12345 in isdnutils (Ubuntu) "isdn does not work, fritz avm (pnp?)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234516:16
didrocksbzr commit -m "fixing foo" --fixes lp:1234516:16
didrocksas you wish ;)16:16
didrocksthen, at next daily release it will be collected16:17
didrocksand complete in the changelog16:17
didrocksrobru: more info on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/FAQ#My_name_deserves_to_be_in_the_changelog.2116:17
robrukenvandine, ^16:17
robrudidrocks, thanks. ken and I forgot how it works ;-)16:17
didrocksno worry!16:18
kenvandinebut if there is no linked bug, then we need to make sure there is an entry right?16:18
kenvandinei just remembered didrocks yelling at webapps for not doing that in libunity-webapps :)16:18
didrocksyeah, because imagine you have a release16:18
didrockswithout any bug attached16:18
didrocksyou just end up with16:18
kenvandineyeah16:18
didrocks"New release snapshot for…"16:19
didrocksno useful info :)16:19
kenvandineso if there is a linked bug, then we don't care about debian/changelog16:19
kenvandinei'm happy with that :)16:19
kenvandinerobru, so your quote-urls does need one :)16:19
robrukenvandine, ok, adding it16:19
didrocksyep! :)16:20
didrockskenvandine: if it's not merged, you can still link the branch to the bug before getting the merge done ;)16:20
didrocksrobru: kenvandine: also, you can still complete debian/changelog manually if you think that the bug title doesn't reflect what you want to put in debian/changelog16:21
didrocksit will deduplicate by author16:21
didrocks(even if the branch is linked to the MP)16:21
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* didrocks waves good evening and good week-end!17:31
BigWhaleAny Germans and French here? We figured that 'ear wax' in Slovenian is actually 'ear butter' and in Bulgarian it is 'ear mud'. Now we're extending our research ...17:46
sarnoldBigWhale: http://www.dict.cc/?s=earwax17:47
mdeslaurBigWhale: it's wax in french. Definitely not as exciting as butter or mud :)17:48
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