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mbender71 | is it possible to push applications from Qt Creator to the Ubuntu Touch Device for testing? I'm trying to find information on how to do that, if it's possible that is. Thanks! | 03:13 |
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mbender71 | nevermind.. found the information in Qt Creator under Devices :-) | 03:20 |
mbender71 | the problem now is that i don't see it on the phone... that is until i close an application and then i see it for a brief moment only for the main navigation app loads up | 03:25 |
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hopkinskong_ | ogra | 05:04 |
hopkinskong_ | grga_ | 05:04 |
hopkinskong_ | ogra_ | 05:05 |
hopkinskong_ | Got logcat | 05:05 |
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hopkinskong_ | ogra_: Pastebinn: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5657145/ | 05:09 |
hopkinskong_ | ogra_: Trying to run it manually, it says: /usr/bin/ubuntu-session: 53: /usr/bin/ubuntu-session: cannot create /proc/272/oom_adj: Directory nonexistent | 05:16 |
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hopkinskong | ogra_ what about now? | 05:28 |
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hopkinskong | ogra_ are u still here | 06:31 |
xiambax | Did a port ever get written for the ATT Galaxy S3? | 06:41 |
Casmo | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39156949 That one? :) | 06:48 |
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hopkinskong | ogra_? | 07:58 |
pa | ok but so if i cant run the available software for linux, why would i use ubuntu touch on the nexus instead of android? | 08:14 |
xiambax | Yeah that was the right release | 08:31 |
xiambax | Im tempted to sell my S3 and get a nexus | 08:32 |
xiambax | Ive been using my Z10 as my main phone lately now that i got instagram working on it | 08:32 |
xiambax | Could ubuntu get a runtime environment like Blackberry 10 for running native Android apps? | 08:32 |
xiambax | That would be a holy grail for the success of Ubuntu Phone | 08:33 |
hopkinskong | ogra_? | 09:35 |
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sidhu | from where i shoud download ubuntu touch | 09:59 |
k1l_ | sidhu: doesnt https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install list a proper way for you? | 10:00 |
sidhu | no...their is not a single link regarding this...or it is hidden somewhere else | 10:00 |
sidhu | is there anyone....having info about the download link of ubuntu touch | 10:02 |
k1l_ | there is the stuff in the regular cdimage folders, iirc: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ | 10:03 |
vair | hi all! | 10:35 |
Sgarj87 | hi | 10:48 |
pa | ah i see | 11:00 |
pa | well i'm sorry, but then this is by far not documented enough | 11:00 |
pa | one might think that ubuntu touch is a fully fledged ubuntu for the nexus 10 | 11:00 |
pa | and it turns out it cant run any linux software?? at least write it somewhere that is easy to see | 11:01 |
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ogra_ | pa, it can run any linux software but does not use Xorg, so any apps using X libraries will not work until you port it | 11:04 |
ogra_ | (there are people running apache on ubuntu touch i heard) | 11:05 |
pa | ouch | 11:05 |
pa | will it get X? | 11:05 |
ogra_ | no | 11:05 |
ogra_ | it will get Mir | 11:05 |
pa | hm.. dont know it, but is it X compatible? | 11:06 |
ogra_ | eventually it will get XMir that will allow you ro run X apps ... | 11:06 |
ogra_ | but thats rather for when Mir enters the desktop | 11:06 |
pa | i see.. but what's wrong with X? | 11:06 |
ogra_ | bloat | 11:06 |
pa | i mean, maemo runs X without any problem | 11:06 |
pa | and is fast as hell | 11:06 |
pa | in fact faster than android | 11:07 |
ogra_ | right, but you cant run it on 50 devices, can you ? | 11:07 |
ogra_ | ubuntu touch has been ported to that many in just a few weeks | 11:08 |
pa | right, but i said it meaning that X can go fast | 11:08 |
ogra_ | the prob with X is that there are not many arm drivers | 11:08 |
pa | ah right | 11:08 |
ogra_ | and it has massive protocol overheard | 11:08 |
ogra_ | Mir works directly on the GL libs | 11:08 |
ogra_ | no layers inbetween | 11:08 |
pa | well, lets hope this XMir lands on the touch soon then :) | 11:09 |
ogra_ | (for more detail there is the #ubuntu-mir channel) | 11:09 |
pa | ah thanks | 11:09 |
ogra_ | XMir will land on the desktop first, so that will still take a while | 11:09 |
pa | then it would have been nice to have the option of having X, for now | 11:10 |
pa | i mean | 11:10 |
pa | if one wants, one can get it, slow, but working | 11:10 |
ogra_ | that doesnt make much sense ... | 11:10 |
ogra_ | since the target of ubuntu touch is to develop a mobile system | 11:10 |
ogra_ | (and later a converged device ) | 11:11 |
ogra_ | desktop apps dont really make any sense in that context | 11:11 |
pa | hm.. but the only edge such system would have is to provide the same software on desktop and mobile | 11:11 |
pa | otherwise there are tons of other mobile systems that dont | 11:11 |
ogra_ | thoough if you own a nexus7 tablet, we actually offer a desktop system for it | 11:11 |
pa | you know, iOS, android, bb10, jolla, etc | 11:11 |
pa | oh.. | 11:12 |
pa | not for the n10?? | 11:12 |
ogra_ | nope | 11:12 |
pa | i mean nexus 10 | 11:12 |
pa | shit.. | 11:12 |
ogra_ | no xorg drivers | 11:12 |
pa | will it get one? | 11:12 |
pa | ouch | 11:12 |
ogra_ | not unless someone offers licensed mali drivers | 11:12 |
k1l_ | pa: i think you should take alook out if there is a ubuntu-arm port for your device. if you want regular X apps on your tablet, like on xda-developers | 11:12 |
pa | i can check | 11:12 |
pa | thanks for the tip | 11:13 |
ogra_ | the only official arm ports we have are for pandaboard, n7 and (semi officially) the ac100 netbook | 11:13 |
ogra_ | at least for the desktop side ... there are some additionally for servers | 11:14 |
pa | but provided that mali drivers will be available, would canonical release also for N10? | 11:14 |
ogra_ | probably ... but it is unlikely you will see properly licensed xorg drivers for mali | 11:14 |
pa | i see.. i need to check.. i might have a connection with the mali team :) | 11:14 |
pa | so at least i'll ask | 11:15 |
ogra_ | there is the armsoc driver (i'm using it currently on this chromebook with ubuntu) .... but it requires the GL libs for which there is no license at all | 11:15 |
k1l_ | pa: but i have tested a regular linux desktop on an arm tablet. dont overestimate the handling with touch. its really not that easy | 11:15 |
ogra_ | so they cant be legally distributed | 11:15 |
k1l_ | pa: so a touch-oriented version from ubuntu for phones and tablets makes alot of sense | 11:16 |
ogra_ | thanks | 11:16 |
pa | yes i can imagine that it's not easy | 11:18 |
pa | i tried some desktop apps on maemo, it's difficult | 11:19 |
pa | but sometimes it's the only way, if you need that app | 11:19 |
k1l_ | pa: dont mix up: you need the app vs you need the task, imho | 11:20 |
pa | yes, well, for example you need to open a .djvu document, and there's nothing that does not need X | 11:21 |
ogra_ | write an app ;) | 11:21 |
ogra_ | you can use all available backends from the archive ... just needs an UI | 11:22 |
k1l_ | i think there is a demand for an ebook and djvu reader app | 11:23 |
pa | besides, one might not want to rewrite the thousands apps already available for linux, right? | 11:23 |
pa | i'm not saying it wouldnt be good to have a touch-friendly version of these apps, but it is a huge work, and so having a X server might be a temporary solution | 11:24 |
ogra_ | no. it wont ... it wont blend in with the usability and UI concept | 11:25 |
ogra_ | once we have the convergens stuff in place you will be able to connect your phone to a monitor/mouse/kbd and just run these apps though | 11:25 |
pa | i see | 11:26 |
ogra_ | running them on the touchscreen will just give you a bad experience | 11:26 |
pa | well, not that unity gives such a great experience, no offense :) | 11:26 |
ogra_ | did you try ir on a phone yet ? | 11:27 |
ogra_ | (or tablet) | 11:27 |
pa | have you considered something more touch friendly? like the swipe ui in bb10 or maemo or sailfish | 11:27 |
pa | not yet, only on desktop | 11:27 |
ogra_ | well ... try out ubuntu touch and then come back :) | 11:28 |
pa | i will as soon as i get the nexus :) | 11:28 |
ogra_ | unity on ubuntu touch is quite different to unity on the desktop | 11:28 |
pa | i hope so :) | 11:28 |
k1l_ | pa: at least you should try it yourself if you judge about it and compare it to other systems | 11:28 |
pa | k1l_, well i thought it was the same as the desktop one, as canonical always sold it as "the same ui everywhere" | 11:29 |
pa | but if you say it's not, i will check it out, first | 11:29 |
k1l_ | pa: no. | 11:29 |
k1l_ | the same look doesnt mean the same control. again, dont underestimate to have a touch only device | 11:30 |
ogra_ | it is (or eventually will be) the same UI .... but adjusted for the use case | 11:30 |
vila | hi all ! | 11:30 |
vila | ogra_: on that topic, | 11:31 |
ogra_ | the current touch unity (also called unity next) will enter the desktop during the 13.10 development cycle (which starts in may) | 11:31 |
vila | ogra_: In a hurry the other day wanting to show an up-to-date version of utouch on the nexus7... I found the nexus7-installer and used it. Err, that's not uthouch ;) But nice to look at nevertheless. After an upgrade I lost the ability to use the on-screen keyboard during the install. Which means no way to type a username and as such to finish the install. | 11:33 |
vila | ogra_: Now, it doesn't matter that much. But I can't wind the way to install utouch again as 'adb devices' is always empty no matter what way I reboot the nexus7. | 11:34 |
ogra_ | vila, that should be fixed with the most recent image, the installer was using compiz which was constantly crashing and killing the focus of input fields | 11:34 |
ogra_ | we switched back to metacity a few days ago | 11:34 |
vila | ogra_: I'm using the most recent image according to nexus7-installer. | 11:34 |
ogra_ | let me check when the actual change happened | 11:35 |
ogra_ | ubiquity 2.13.18has the change ... | 11:37 |
ogra_ | hmm, but the latest image doesnt have that ubiquity version | 11:38 |
ogra_ | vila, i guess you found a bug :) | 11:38 |
* ogra_ checks why there is no newer build than from the 15th | 11:39 | |
vila | ogra_: great, I'll report it. | 11:39 |
ogra_ | dont bother, i'm looking already ... | 11:39 |
vila | ogra_: Ha, great, let me know the bug # so I can subscribe. | 11:39 |
ogra_ | seems there were no image builds since the 15th ... though i should have gotten mails about that, not sure what went wrong | 11:39 |
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vila | ogra_: any work around in the mean time to get a tablet usage back welcome ;) | 11:40 |
ogra_ | well, the installer works even with compiz if you repeat the install over and over ... it doesnt always crash ... | 11:40 |
vila | ogra_: but that's less important than a proper fix, don't lose time on it and thanks for the hard work ! | 11:41 |
vila | ogra_: It's not a crash, I'm still able to navigate back. | 11:41 |
vila | ogra_: there is still no exit though ;) | 11:41 |
ogra_ | HA ! | 11:42 |
ogra_ | vila, its just the /current link thats wrong ... apparently there were newer builds ... | 11:42 |
ogra_ | hmm, but they werent published | 11:43 |
vila | ogra_: so re-trying nexus7-installer right now is enough ? | 11:43 |
ogra_ | nope | 11:43 |
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vila | ogra_: in a few hours ? | 11:43 |
ogra_ | something is wrong with the image publisher ... | 11:43 |
hopkinskong | ogra_, Is there any special in the logcat? | 11:44 |
ogra_ | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/ has the right dirs ... but no images were published | 11:44 |
vila | ogra_: ha, tomorrow ? next week ? | 11:44 |
ogra_ | hopkinskong, your android build is completely screwed, no idea why but the modules dont match the kernel and the like | 11:44 |
hopkinskong | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5657145/ | 11:45 |
hopkinskong | just leave the modules | 11:45 |
hopkinskong | i know why./ | 11:45 |
ogra_ | vila, not sure, everyone is on easter holiday atm | 11:45 |
vila | ogra_: yup, me included ;) | 11:45 |
hopkinskong | Because the name is different, my kernel is dirty now, but my modules don't. | 11:45 |
* ogra_ should be too | 11:45 | |
hopkinskong | just leave it, it should run without those modules. | 11:45 |
ogra_ | hopkinskong, well, that doesnt look like you did a proper image build | 11:45 |
vila | ogra_: so no pressure really ;) I can just cancel the demo and wait for the fix. | 11:46 |
ogra_ | it wont run that way | 11:46 |
hopkinskong | do u mean i should download another daily image? | 11:46 |
ogra_ | vila, well, thanks for the pointer ... given i got no failure mails i didnt keven think abotu checking | 11:46 |
ogra_ | hopkinskong, there is no issue with the daily image, your android is completely broken | 11:47 |
ogra_ | find out why, make a new image and try again | 11:47 |
hopkinskong | There is no clue in the logcat. | 11:47 |
hopkinskong | Idk which part is broken | 11:48 |
ogra_ | everything. it cant execute the libs and it misses the needed modules | 11:48 |
ogra_ | i have no idea about your device, you need to find out yourself | 11:49 |
hopkinskong | it can execute the libs? Where do u noticed that? In the logcat? | 11:50 |
hopkinskong | can't* | 11:50 |
ogra_ | it definitely is not able to execute stuff from /system | 11:50 |
hopkinskong | How do u know that? | 11:50 |
ogra_ | looks like things are differently compiled | 11:50 |
ogra_ | and it didnt mount /proc properly either | 11:51 |
hopkinskong | it mounted | 11:51 |
hopkinskong | i have output on "ls -l /proc" | 11:51 |
ogra_ | the startup scripts didnt ... your busybox cant be executed ... sorry i really cant help ... do a proper and complete image build, make sure all bits in place come from the same build | 11:53 |
hopkinskong | btw | 11:53 |
ogra_ | it looks like you have only rebuilt some bits but not others | 11:53 |
ogra_ | and replaced only pieces | 11:53 |
hopkinskong | Is EGL included in the cm10.1? | 11:53 |
hopkinskong | i mean the .zip file | 11:53 |
hopkinskong | Should be "libegl" included? | 11:54 |
ogra_ | i fyou properly added it by using the android scripts | 11:54 |
ogra_ | like described on the porting page ... | 11:54 |
ogra_ | without libEGL/libGLES you will nevefr get the gui to work | 11:55 |
hopkinskong | Because i can't find "libegl" in /system/lib, i need compile it standalone. | 11:55 |
hopkinskong | What i mean is "libhybris" | 11:55 |
hopkinskong | it seems that it won't compile into the .zip | 11:55 |
ogra_ | libhybris is the translation layer that makes the ubuntu userspace talk to the underlying android layer | 11:55 |
hopkinskong | How do i know if libhybris is compiled properly? | 11:56 |
ogra_ | one part needs to come from the android side, the other half is shipped in the phablet zip file | 11:56 |
ogra_ | chekc your build log from the brunch run | 11:56 |
hopkinskong | do you mean: "brunch leo | tee > ~/Desktop/build_log.log" | 11:57 |
hopkinskong | and check build_log? | 11:57 |
ogra_ | right | 11:57 |
ogra_ | or just use the scrollback in your terminal if you ran brunch | 11:57 |
hopkinskong | i found some entry of "hybris" | 11:58 |
hopkinskong | Export includes file: ubuntu/platform-api/android/hybris/Android.mk -- /media/ubuntudev/android/out/target/product/leo/obj/EXECUTABLES/ubuntuappmanager_intermediates/export_includes | 11:58 |
hopkinskong | is it compiling properly? | 11:58 |
ogra_ | i have no idea | 11:58 |
hopkinskong | target thumb C++: libsf_compat_layer <= ubuntu/hybris/compat/surface_flinger/surface_flinger_compatibility_layer.cpp | 11:59 |
* ogra_ goes to check the issue with the nexus7 desktop images | 11:59 | |
hopkinskong | ah, a quick way, what ".so" would be generated if "libhybris" is compiled properly? | 11:59 |
om26er | chewie-client build failing on raring: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5657856/ help ? | 12:07 |
jhodapp | popey: do you think me email to the YouTube devs was clear enough? | 12:17 |
ogra_ | vila, code fixed ... there should be a new build soon | 12:56 |
vila | ogra_: you rock ! I let you know asap (but casus belly with gf to try it now :-}) | 12:56 |
ogra_ | and there is is :) | 12:59 |
pmcgowan | ogra_: whadya fix? | 12:59 |
ogra_ | pmcgowan, nexus7 desktop image publication was broken | 12:59 |
pmcgowan | ah | 13:00 |
ogra_ | nothing touch related | 13:00 |
ogra_ | dont worry :) | 13:00 |
pmcgowan | I think there may have been a regression yesterday but I did not load it yet | 13:00 |
pmcgowan | someone complaned of the camera not working and graphics performance | 13:00 |
ogra_ | yeah, its weird that so many ports users seem to have issues recently | 13:00 |
ogra_ | yup saw it in the backlog | 13:01 |
pmcgowan | there was a new qtmultimedia | 13:01 |
pmcgowan | I am loading now | 13:01 |
pmcgowan | we may need to revise our sync strategy | 13:01 |
pmcgowan | someone needs to test prior to sync | 13:01 |
ogra_ | i thought jenkins did .... or is that just buildability ? | 13:02 |
pmcgowan | I need to check on what tests are run but clearly not enough | 13:02 |
pmcgowan | not at system level | 13:02 |
ogra_ | for cdimage there is a concept in place but not finished | 13:03 |
pmcgowan | but until thats improved maybe we make a manual step | 13:03 |
ogra_ | right, thats the current plan | 13:03 |
pmcgowan | so we wont sync until someone blesses it? | 13:03 |
ogra_ | QA works on automation but they havet it ready yet | 13:03 |
ogra_ | we have new subdirs in place on cdimage | 13:04 |
ogra_ | there is a /pending dir now ... once QA pulled the trigger the content of it gets moved to /current | 13:04 |
pmcgowan | just got another wrong number ;) | 13:04 |
pmcgowan | sounds good | 13:04 |
ogra_ | the infrastructure is largely in place ... but the testing side isnt yet afaik | 13:05 |
ogra_ | it should be read once we build raring touch on cdimage though | 13:05 |
ogra_ | *ready | 13:05 |
pmcgowan | ok | 13:05 |
* ogra_ goes back into easter vacation ... | 13:07 | |
ogra_ | (fri and mon are holidays in germany) | 13:07 |
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blindman82 | hi all | 13:50 |
blindman82 | if i use ubuntu touch instead of android on my nexus 4 what am going to lose? | 13:52 |
hopkinskong | datas, apps, etc | 13:52 |
blindman82 | so i can non longer use apps like facebook whatsapp and viber? | 13:53 |
bfiller | pmcgowan, jhodapp : verified camera app is busted in latest image, appears to be a dependency issue. looking into it | 13:56 |
pmcgowan | bfiller: thanks, am still downloading | 13:56 |
bfiller | pmcgowan: media player works fine though | 13:56 |
pmcgowan | blindman82: its just for development right now, we are working on those apps | 13:58 |
blindman82 | just one last question there is no way to dual boot android and ubuntu on nexus 4 right now? | 13:59 |
pmcgowan | I think thats possible but not sure | 14:00 |
pmcgowan | our images do not support that | 14:00 |
blindman82 | thx :) | 14:00 |
namo_ | привет, Русские есть ? | 14:02 |
namo_ | Hi, would ubuntu touch for samsung p7500 | 14:05 |
namo_ | ? | 14:06 |
mbender71 | Hi, are there any secrets to running a QT Quick 2.0 application on an Ubuntu Touch device through QT Creator (Ctrl+F12)? I see the code being copied to the target device and run but I don't see it on the device :-( | 14:07 |
pmcgowan | namo_: check wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 14:08 |
pmcgowan | mbender71: it should appear if it uses the approach in the docs | 14:08 |
pmcgowan | mbender71: is it in the apps lens? | 14:09 |
mbender71 | i'm afraid I'm just starting out with Qt & Ubuntu Touch.. very green.. I've been searching and reading as much as I can but I haven't found a reference/resource/example on application details to run on Ubuntu Touch (i.e. settings, methods, etc) | 14:10 |
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namo_ | Thanks | 14:11 |
mbender71 | I'm coming from the iOS world where pushing ANY template over (no matter how simple) to an iOS device via Xcode just runs.. period. | 14:11 |
mbender71 | I was expecting specific templates in QT Creator and "Run On Device" to just work. I don't see specific templates.. | 14:12 |
pmcgowan | you should see ubuntu templates | 14:12 |
gusch | bfiller: https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-release-0-0-64/+merge/156164 | 14:15 |
bfiller | gusch: approved | 14:15 |
mbender71 | pmcgowan: you are correct. I was using templates under "Application" since the tutorial on Ubuntu's Mobile web site actually doesn't use templates under "Ubuntu" in QT Creator | 14:18 |
mbender71 | in all honesty, information on Ubuntu's web site (for mobile/touch) is buggy.. it's either outdated or just not enough. perhaps it's due to rapid development pace.. i dunno. | 14:19 |
jhodapp | bfiller, thanks | 14:20 |
pmcgowan | mbender71: feedback noted | 14:21 |
pmcgowan | mbender71: some better examples here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps | 14:27 |
pmcgowan | like clock and claculator | 14:27 |
mbender71 | pmcgowan: fantastic! thank you for the link. I will grab an example and just to push it to my Ubuntu Touch device :-) | 14:28 |
bzoltan | mbender71: how were you trying to "Run on device"? | 14:34 |
mbender71 | bzoltan: in QT Creator you can CTRL+F12... or Build -> Ubuntu -> Run in Ubuntu Device | 14:35 |
mbender71 | bzoltan: this is displayed on the top of the "Devices" page within QT Creator when it detects a device | 14:36 |
bzoltan | mbender71: That is the correct way. All Ubuntu templates from the application wizzard runs on the device if the development mode is enabled on the device. | 14:36 |
mbender71 | bzoltan: i used templates under Application, and not under Ubuntu as per the Currency Calculator example on the ubuntu touch web site | 14:37 |
mbender71 | bzoltan: perhaps that is my problem | 14:37 |
bzoltan | mbender71: The CtrlF12 support only qml projects with pure QML/JS applications. | 14:38 |
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bzoltan | mbender71: at this moment on the Ubuntu Phone you can remote deploy only Ubuntu apps | 14:39 |
mbender71 | bzoltan: again, i'm a newbie to Qt and very green. So Qt Quick UI will *not* run through CtrlF12, only Qt Quick Applications right? | 14:39 |
bzoltan | mbender71: No worries :) both the Ubuntu Phone and the Qt5 Quick2 technology are so new that nobody is expected to be guru yet :) | 14:41 |
mbender71 | bzoltan: I'm starting fresh here and not trying to force anything to the Ubuntu Phone. Just trying to learn the proper steps and configuration to make an app for ubuntu touch | 14:41 |
rickspencer3 | mbender71, I'm blogging my experiences as I go | 14:42 |
bzoltan | mbender71: At this moment Ubuntu Phone supports only Ubuntu applications. Both the vanilla Qt Quick Applications and Qt Quick UI project templates will miss essential files and configuration. | 14:42 |
rickspencer3 | http://theravingrick.blogspot.com | 14:43 |
mbender71 | pmcgowan: just grabbed the ubuntu-calculator-app. i'm able to run it on my ubuntu desktop, but no luck at all with CtrlF12. Should i do something special on the Ubuntu Phone first before trying to run it? Perhaps be at a special screen/menu? | 14:44 |
pmcgowan | mbender71: if I remember that key shortcut needs to be set in qt creator | 14:44 |
pmcgowan | mbender71: try from the menu Build > Ubuntu > run on device | 14:45 |
bzoltan | mbender71: Did you enable the development mode on the device? | 14:46 |
rickspencer3 | here's what I do ... | 14:47 |
rickspencer3 | click the devices button at the bottom of the left channel | 14:47 |
rickspencer3 | click "Detect Devices" in the top right | 14:47 |
rickspencer3 | click "Enable Developer Mode" if necessary | 14:47 |
rickspencer3 | then I can interact with it through QtCreator :) | 14:47 |
mbender71 | rickspencer3: good stuff there, but I managed to figure that out yesterday and have no problems with QT Creator connecting to the device (and set to Developer mode). | 14:51 |
rickspencer3 | :) | 14:51 |
mbender71 | *bingo* goodness.. i just decided to pull the battery, reboot, reconnect to network, and reconnect to phone to my desktop and then did Build -> ubuntu -> run on device and the calculator came up! | 14:52 |
pmcgowan | woot | 14:52 |
bzoltan | mbender71: did you try to open an Ubuntu app template and deploy on the device? | 14:52 |
mbender71 | THANK YOU ALL (for putting up with me). | 14:52 |
bzoltan | mbender71: Good job! :) | 14:53 |
mbender71 | Now i know I have an environment/setup that I can begin learning with! Again, thank you! | 14:53 |
rickspencer3 | have fun mbender71 | 14:54 |
mbender71 | for clarification : I must use/start with the Ubuntu templates in Qt Creator? I noticed they are all UI and not Application | 14:55 |
pmcgowan | mbender71: we are encouraging folks to stay within QML as much as possible | 14:56 |
harrisr | is the ubuntu tablet out yet or can i put it on my smaung galaxy tab 2 10.1 | 14:59 |
bzoltan | mbender71: the support for Qt C++/QML hybrid apps will come later, but as pmcgowan said, right now the focus is on pure QML/JS apps. | 14:59 |
ogra_ | it wont be "out" before october .... its mainly for preview and development currently | 14:59 |
ogra_ | harrisr, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 15:00 |
mbender71 | bzoltan: hence the absence of Qt Quick Application templates, on the UI templates right now :-) | 15:00 |
bzoltan | mbender71: Exactly | 15:01 |
harrisr | Work in progress | 15:02 |
harrisr | Please try to keep the tables sorted. | 15:02 |
harrisr | Device | 15:02 |
harrisr | Code name | 15:02 |
harrisr | Unlocking instructions | 15:02 |
harrisr | Install instructions | 15:02 |
harrisr | Code/Image | 15:02 |
harrisr | Contact person | 15:02 |
harrisr | Adevent Vega | 15:02 |
harrisr | p10an01 | 15:02 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:02 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:02 |
harrisr | TabletRoms Forum | 15:02 |
harrisr | HyperTurtle | 15:02 |
harrisr | Alcatel OT-995 | 15:02 |
harrisr | cocktail | 15:02 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:02 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:02 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:02 |
ogra_ | harrisr, ! | 15:02 |
harrisr | ~fonix232 | 15:02 |
harrisr | HP Touchpad | 15:02 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:02 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:02 |
harrisr | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175277 | 15:02 |
harrisr | HTC One X+ | 15:02 |
harrisr | enrc2b | 15:02 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:02 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:02 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:02 |
mbender71 | kick perhaps? | 15:02 |
harrisr | ~Lloir | 15:02 |
harrisr | HTC One X+ | 15:02 |
harrisr | evitareul | 15:03 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:03 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:03 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:03 |
harrisr | ~Lloir | 15:03 |
harrisr | HTC One XL | 15:03 |
harrisr | evita | 15:03 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:03 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:03 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:03 |
harrisr | ~rohan32 | 15:03 |
harrisr | HTC Sensation 4G | 15:03 |
harrisr | pyramid | 15:03 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:03 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:03 |
harrisr | http://www.droidevs.com/showthread.php?t=1107 | 15:03 |
ogra_ | oh my | 15:03 |
harrisr | DragünKorr | 15:03 |
harrisr | HTC Sensation XL | 15:03 |
harrisr | runnymede | 15:03 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:03 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:03 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:03 |
harrisr | ~lexmazter | 15:03 |
harrisr | Kindle Fire HD 7" | 15:03 |
harrisr | tate | 15:03 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:03 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:03 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:03 |
harrisr | ~hashcode0f | 15:04 |
harrisr | LG Optimus 4x HD | 15:04 |
harrisr | eternity | 15:04 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:04 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:04 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:04 |
harrisr | ashley.johnson [at] madmedialabs [dot] com | 15:04 |
harrisr | LG Optimus 2x | 15:04 |
harrisr | p990 | 15:04 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:04 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:04 |
harrisr | XDA Forums | 15:04 |
harrisr | ~rugglez | 15:04 |
harrisr | Motorola Atrix | 15:04 |
harrisr | olympus | 15:04 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:04 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:04 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:04 |
harrisr | Scott Weldon | 15:04 |
harrisr | Nexus S | 15:04 |
harrisr | crespo | 15:04 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:04 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:04 |
ogra_ | k1l_, would you mind ? | 15:04 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:04 |
harrisr | ~michaelevans | 15:04 |
pmcgowan | this could take a while | 15:04 |
harrisr | Notion Ink Adam PQi 3G | 15:04 |
harrisr | adam_3g | 15:04 |
harrisr | WIP | 15:04 |
ogra_ | pmcgowan, heh, yeah, its a long lost | 15:05 |
rickspencer3 | pastebin.ubuntu.com ... just sayin' | 15:05 |
* ogra_ hugs k1l_ | 15:05 | |
oSoMoN | :) | 15:05 |
k1l_ | np | 15:05 |
ogra_ | rickspencer3, well, there isnt really a need to pastebin the whole Ports wikipage | 15:05 |
ogra_ | :) | 15:05 |
rickspencer3 | bzoltan, do you know what's up with that weird bar across the top of my app when I use MainView | 15:05 |
tassadar_ | which irc client is soooo smart it lets people send messages that long Oo | 15:05 |
rickspencer3 | ogra_, ;) | 15:05 |
bzoltan | What the hack was that? | 15:06 |
ogra_ | someone (likely accidentially) pasted the whole of the Ports wikipage | 15:06 |
bzoltan | rickspencer3: You just found a bug! Thanks for that. | 15:08 |
rickspencer3 | hi bzoltan, oh, it's been happening for day | 15:08 |
rickspencer3 | bzoltan, I'll log a bug, can you remind me of the link? | 15:08 |
bzoltan | rickspencer3: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins I do not always check all templates every day... it is an issue with the single page apps | 15:09 |
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jhodapp | awe, where'd you post that link? | 15:12 |
awe | in the mumble chat window! ;) | 15:12 |
awe | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-telephony-stack | 15:12 |
jhodapp | awe, oh I never saw it | 15:12 |
jhodapp | awe, usually I hear a sound too, didn't hear one for a posted link | 15:13 |
jhodapp | thanks | 15:13 |
bfiller | ChickenCutlass: can you approve this MR: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/camera-app/camera-app-2.8/+merge/156178 fixes the broken camera in the build | 15:14 |
mterry | mzanetti, so my lightdm branch... if I can fix the autopilot issues, did you approve the branch besides? | 15:15 |
rickspencer3 | bzoltan, sounds like a good place for an automated test | 15:19 |
davmor2 | Hey guys I managed to pick up a galaxy nexus and I'm trying to flash it. I've unlocked it, enabled debug, but the phablet-flash -b -l just reports back Device detected as crespo | 15:20 |
davmor2 | Unsupported device, autodetect fails device | 15:20 |
davmor2 | is there anyway round this? | 15:20 |
ogra_ | davmor2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices .... seems there is no workign port yet | 15:21 |
rickspencer3 | bzoltan, bug #1161910 | 15:21 |
ubot5 | bug 1161910 in Ubuntu QtCreator Plugins "creating a single page app adds a weird bar to the top of the screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1161910 | 15:21 |
rickspencer3 | bzoltan, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me how to fix it | 15:21 |
ogra_ | davmor2, you could try to port it yourself though https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | 15:21 |
davmor2 | ogra_: this is a samsung galaxy nexus I bought it because it was one of the defaults | 15:22 |
ogra_ | crespo isnt the nexus we support | 15:22 |
davmor2 | son of a..... | 15:23 |
pmcgowan | someone is working on a port acc to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 15:23 |
ogra_ | davmor2, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38383768&postcount=1 | 15:28 |
ogra_ | there seems to be an early port | 15:28 |
davmor2 | ogra_: yeap just found it seems I got the s and not the normal version | 15:29 |
ogra_ | yup | 15:29 |
netanalyzer | hi | 15:30 |
davmor2 | ogra_: and I thought I was doing so well finally finding one :) | 15:30 |
ogra_ | heh | 15:30 |
* ogra_ just ported to an old galaxy S2 he had lying around | 15:31 | |
rickspencer3 | bzoltan, I also have another question if you have a moment, how do I add the ability for my app to quit/exit? | 15:31 |
ogra_ | was easier than trying to find a nexus | 15:31 |
netanalyzer | noob question, can i port ubuntu touch to single core device? | 15:32 |
pmcgowan | rickspencer3: I thought you got the hud for free | 15:32 |
rickspencer3 | pmcgowan, I do get the hud, but when I tell it to quit the app, it doesn't quit | 15:33 |
rickspencer3 | in other words, the exit button doesn't work | 15:33 |
pmcgowan | I see | 15:33 |
ogra_ | netanalyzer, if its cortex-a9 ... but it wont be fun to run it | 15:33 |
pmcgowan | rickspencer3: wonder if thats an issue getting all the names lined up, match the appname to the desktop etc | 15:33 |
rickspencer3 | pmcgowan, could be | 15:34 |
rickspencer3 | especially since the app is not installed | 15:34 |
netanalyzer | 1.5 GHz ARM Cortex-A9 | 15:34 |
ChickenCutlass | bfiller: approved | 15:34 |
netanalyzer | yep ogra_ htc sensation xl | 15:34 |
bfiller | ChickenCutlass: as I said, thanks | 15:34 |
pmcgowan | rickspencer3: it should work on uninstalled apps, does that is | 15:34 |
ogra_ | netanalyzer, should work, but dont expect miracles ... it wont perform great | 15:35 |
netanalyzer | ok tnx ogra_ | 15:35 |
rickspencer3 | pmcgowan, it might be a bug in the the app base class or app template or something | 15:36 |
rickspencer3 | I'll log a bug | 15:36 |
rickspencer3 | pmcgowan, I logged bug #1161918 | 15:37 |
ubot5 | bug 1161918 in Ubuntu QtCreator Plugins "New Single Page Ubuntu Application Does Not Quit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1161918 | 15:37 |
rickspencer3 | I'll make a minimal reproducer later this weekend | 15:37 |
rickspencer3 | probably don't want to spend my *whole* day off dinking with apps ;) | 15:37 |
vair | job done! OKAY [ 0.353s] finished. total time: 0.973s Once completed the device should reboot into Ubuntu | 16:05 |
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Tera_Giga_MegS | When will Qt be better intergrated into 12.04 ? | 17:30 |
[Mechanic] | Tera_Giga_MegS, heheeh | 17:35 |
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robertjw | having trouble entering wifi password to bring up the network (Nexus 7). Putting focus in the password field does not bring up a keyboard. | 18:11 |
robertjw | is there some workaround to bring up a soft keyboard so that the wifi password can be entered? | 18:12 |
pmcgowan | robertjw: there was a regression in the osk yesterday | 18:12 |
pmcgowan | can you connect it to your pc with usb | 18:13 |
robertjw | that explains it, i just flashed the most recent build | 18:13 |
pmcgowan | then use phablet-network-setup to copy your pc connection over | 18:13 |
pmcgowan | if its wifi | 18:13 |
robertjw | sounds like a good workaround | 18:14 |
pmcgowan | btw use -i and it will set up the ssh server as well | 18:14 |
robertjw | phablet-network-setup -i | 18:14 |
robertjw | that works well, thanks for the jumpstart | 18:22 |
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harris | will ubuntu for tablet come to samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 | 19:32 |
harris | is ubuntu touch this http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet | 19:37 |
harris | is ubuntu touch this http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet | 19:38 |
holstein | !patience | harris | 19:39 |
ubot5 | harris: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/ | 19:39 |
holstein | harris: ubuntu for tablet is not "coming" to any device like that anytime soon that im aware or | 19:39 |
holstein | are you asking if it'll run on your device? | 19:39 |
harris | yes | 19:39 |
holstein | harris: that page is what it says it is | 19:39 |
holstein | harris: whats the issue? | 19:40 |
harris | what ?\ | 19:40 |
harris | what does that page is what it says it is mean | 19:40 |
holstein | harris: what is your question | 19:40 |
harris | can i get ubuntu on my tablet | 19:40 |
holstein | harris: you cannont buy that tablet with ubuntu on it | 19:41 |
harris | no i have the tablet | 19:41 |
holstein | harris: you are wanting to know if that device is supported? | 19:41 |
harris | can i put http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet on it | 19:41 |
harris | yes | 19:41 |
harris | seems really cool | 19:41 |
holstein | harris: i searche "ubuntu supported tablet list" and came up with this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TabletList | 19:42 |
harris | only the galaxy tab 10.1 is on list | 19:43 |
harris | not 2 10.1 | 19:44 |
holstein | harris: thats what i see | 19:44 |
harris | so i cant get ubuntu | 19:44 |
holstein | also, it says no support for the 10.1 | 19:44 |
holstein | harris: well, its all open, so its likely not that ubuntu cant run on it.. its more likely not being allowed to run there.. or too much hassle | 19:45 |
harris | man | 19:45 |
harris | the video really looked cool :( | 19:45 |
holstein | harris: the video coolness is likely at the same level as before | 19:46 |
harris | what do you mean as before | 19:46 |
holstein | harris: the video is still cool | 19:47 |
harris | yeah but i cant get it because cononical is too lazy to make it work | 19:47 |
holstein | !volnteers | harris | 19:47 |
holstein | !volunteers | harris [C[C[C[C[C[C[C | 19:47 |
ubot5 | harris [C[C[C[C[C[C[C: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 19:47 |
holstein | harris: as i stated, its likely either too locked down, or too much hassle to get it running | 19:48 |
holstein | harris: the source is, and AFAIK, will always be available.. you can work on it as much as you like | 19:48 |
harris | what do you mean locked down | 19:48 |
harris | im going to try this | 19:49 |
holstein | harris: i mean, the device came with an operating system.. and the device manufacturer did say to you, in any way "feel free to run what you like on it" | 19:49 |
holstein | harris: running what you like on it might void the warranty | 19:49 |
harris | the warrenty is up | 19:50 |
holstein | harris: i assure you laziness is not a factor | 19:50 |
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harris | holstein, will pressing the POWER and VOLUME UP button or about 30 seconds until it shuts off and restarts. "Wipe data/Factory Reset" by pressing VOLUME UP/DOWN and press POWER button to select. still work | 20:17 |
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shrty4luvsgs3 | hello have anyone heard of drivedroid | 21:42 |
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mutantkeyboard | shrty4luvsgs3: that's some sort of thing that allows phone that boots ISO/IMG AFAIK... ?!?! | 21:55 |
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thisguy | quick question are there any alternative ways to make a flashable zip? im on the step on making a flashable zip but when i do brunch msm8660-common it doesn't do it and does a bunch of other stuff. is there any other way to make a installable image? | 23:35 |
ment0s | Hello | 23:36 |
ment0s | I have installed ubuntu touch preview on my nexus 7 a while ago but obviously it wasn't very usefull at that stage. I would like to ask you if there are any updates on image or its still at that stage?, cannot find any info online. Please help | 23:38 |
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