[03:13] <mbender71> is it possible to push applications from Qt Creator to the Ubuntu Touch Device for testing? I'm trying to find information on how to do that, if it's possible that is. Thanks!
[03:20] <mbender71> nevermind.. found the information in Qt Creator under Devices :-)
[03:25] <mbender71> the problem now is that i don't see it on the phone... that is until i close an application and then i see it for a brief moment only for the main navigation app loads up
[05:04] <hopkinskong_> ogra
[05:04] <hopkinskong_> grga_
[05:05] <hopkinskong_> ogra_
[05:05] <hopkinskong_> Got logcat
[05:09] <hopkinskong_> ogra_: Pastebinn: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5657145/
[05:16] <hopkinskong_> ogra_: Trying to run it manually, it says: /usr/bin/ubuntu-session: 53: /usr/bin/ubuntu-session: cannot create /proc/272/oom_adj: Directory nonexistent
[05:28] <hopkinskong> ogra_ what about now?
[06:31] <hopkinskong> ogra_ are u still here
[06:41] <xiambax> Did a port ever get written for the ATT Galaxy S3?
[06:48] <Casmo> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39156949 That one? :)
[07:58] <hopkinskong> ogra_?
[08:14] <pa> ok but so if i cant run the available software for linux, why would i use ubuntu touch on the nexus instead of android?
[08:31] <xiambax> Yeah that was the right release
[08:32] <xiambax> Im tempted to sell my S3 and get a nexus
[08:32] <xiambax> Ive been using my Z10 as my main phone lately now that i got instagram working on it
[08:32] <xiambax> Could ubuntu get a runtime environment like Blackberry 10 for running native Android apps?
[08:33] <xiambax> That would be a holy grail for the success of Ubuntu Phone
[09:35] <hopkinskong> ogra_?
[09:59] <sidhu> from where i shoud download ubuntu touch
[10:00] <k1l_> sidhu: doesnt https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install list a proper way for you?
[10:00] <sidhu> no...their is not a single link regarding  this...or it is hidden somewhere else
[10:02] <sidhu> is there anyone....having info about the download link of ubuntu touch
[10:03] <k1l_> there is the stuff in the regular cdimage folders, iirc: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[10:35] <vair> hi all!
[10:48] <Sgarj87> hi
[11:00] <pa> ah i see
[11:00] <pa> well i'm sorry, but then this is by far not documented enough
[11:00] <pa> one might think that ubuntu touch is a fully fledged ubuntu for the nexus 10
[11:01] <pa> and it turns out it cant run any linux software?? at least write it somewhere that is easy to see
[11:04] <ogra_> pa, it can run any linux software but does not use Xorg, so any apps using X libraries will not work until you port it
[11:05] <ogra_> (there are people running apache on ubuntu touch i heard)
[11:05] <pa> ouch
[11:05] <pa> will it get X?
[11:05] <ogra_> no
[11:05] <ogra_> it will get Mir
[11:06] <pa> hm.. dont know it, but is it X compatible?
[11:06] <ogra_> eventually it will get XMir that will allow you ro run X apps ...
[11:06] <ogra_> but thats rather for when Mir enters the desktop
[11:06] <pa> i see.. but what's wrong with X?
[11:06] <ogra_> bloat
[11:06] <pa> i mean, maemo runs X without any problem
[11:06] <pa> and is fast as hell
[11:07] <pa> in fact faster than android
[11:07] <ogra_> right, but you cant run it on 50 devices, can you ?
[11:08] <ogra_> ubuntu touch has been ported to that many in just a few weeks
[11:08] <pa> right, but i said it meaning that X can go fast
[11:08] <ogra_> the prob with X is that there are not many arm drivers
[11:08] <pa> ah right
[11:08] <ogra_> and it has massive protocol overheard
[11:08] <ogra_> Mir works directly on the GL libs
[11:08] <ogra_> no layers inbetween
[11:09] <pa> well, lets hope this XMir lands on the touch soon then :)
[11:09] <ogra_> (for more detail there is the #ubuntu-mir channel)
[11:09] <pa> ah thanks
[11:09] <ogra_> XMir will land on the desktop first, so that will still take a while
[11:10] <pa> then it would have been nice to have the option of having X, for now
[11:10] <pa> i mean
[11:10] <pa> if one wants, one can get it, slow, but working
[11:10] <ogra_> that doesnt make much sense ...
[11:10] <ogra_> since the target of ubuntu touch is to develop a mobile system
[11:11] <ogra_> (and later a converged device )
[11:11] <ogra_> desktop apps dont really make any sense in that context
[11:11] <pa> hm.. but the only edge such system would have is to provide the same software on desktop and mobile
[11:11] <pa> otherwise there are tons of other mobile systems that dont
[11:11] <ogra_> thoough if you own a nexus7 tablet, we actually offer a desktop system for it
[11:11] <pa> you know, iOS, android, bb10, jolla, etc
[11:12] <pa> oh..
[11:12] <pa> not for the n10??
[11:12] <ogra_> nope
[11:12] <pa> i mean nexus 10
[11:12] <pa> shit..
[11:12] <ogra_> no xorg drivers
[11:12] <pa> will it get one?
[11:12] <pa> ouch
[11:12] <ogra_> not unless someone offers licensed mali drivers
[11:12] <k1l_> pa: i think you should take alook out if there  is a ubuntu-arm port for your device. if you want regular X apps on  your tablet, like on xda-developers
[11:12] <pa> i can check
[11:13] <pa> thanks for the tip
[11:13] <ogra_> the only official arm ports we have are for pandaboard, n7 and (semi officially) the ac100 netbook
[11:14] <ogra_> at least for the desktop side ... there are some additionally for servers
[11:14] <pa> but provided that mali drivers will be available, would canonical release also for N10?
[11:14] <ogra_> probably ... but it is unlikely you will see properly licensed xorg drivers for mali
[11:14] <pa> i see.. i need to check.. i might have a connection with the mali team :)
[11:15] <pa> so at least i'll ask
[11:15] <ogra_> there is the armsoc driver (i'm using it currently on this chromebook with ubuntu)  .... but it requires the GL libs for which there is no license at all
[11:15] <k1l_> pa: but i have tested a regular linux desktop on an arm tablet. dont overestimate the handling with touch. its really not that easy
[11:15] <ogra_> so they cant be legally distributed
[11:16] <k1l_> pa: so a touch-oriented version from ubuntu for phones and tablets makes alot of sense
[11:16] <ogra_> thanks
[11:18] <pa> yes i can imagine that it's not easy
[11:19] <pa> i tried some desktop apps on maemo, it's difficult
[11:19] <pa> but sometimes it's the only way, if you need that app
[11:20] <k1l_> pa: dont mix up: you need the app vs you need the task, imho
[11:21] <pa> yes, well, for example you need to open a .djvu document, and there's nothing that does not need X
[11:21] <ogra_> write an app ;)
[11:22] <ogra_> you can use all available backends from the archive ... just needs an UI
[11:23] <k1l_> i think there is a demand for an ebook and djvu reader app
[11:23] <pa> besides, one might not want to rewrite the thousands apps already available for linux, right?
[11:24] <pa> i'm not saying it wouldnt be good to have a touch-friendly version of these apps, but it is a huge work, and so having a X server might be a temporary solution
[11:25] <ogra_> no. it wont ... it wont blend in with the usability and UI concept
[11:25] <ogra_> once we have the convergens stuff in place you will be able to connect your phone to a monitor/mouse/kbd and just run these apps though
[11:26] <pa> i see
[11:26] <ogra_> running them on the touchscreen will just give you a bad experience
[11:26] <pa> well, not that unity gives such a great experience, no offense :)
[11:27] <ogra_> did you try ir on a phone yet ?
[11:27] <ogra_> (or tablet)
[11:27] <pa> have you considered something more touch friendly? like the swipe ui in bb10 or maemo or sailfish
[11:27] <pa> not yet, only on desktop
[11:28] <ogra_> well ... try out ubuntu touch and then come back :)
[11:28] <pa> i will as soon as i get the nexus :)
[11:28] <ogra_> unity on ubuntu touch is quite different to unity on the desktop
[11:28] <pa> i hope so :)
[11:28] <k1l_> pa: at least you should try it yourself if you judge about it and compare it to other systems
[11:29] <pa> k1l_, well i thought it was the same as the desktop one, as canonical always sold it as "the same ui everywhere"
[11:29] <pa> but if you say it's not, i will check it out, first
[11:29] <k1l_> pa: no.
[11:30] <k1l_> the same look doesnt mean the same control. again, dont underestimate to have a touch only device
[11:30] <ogra_> it is (or eventually will be) the same UI .... but adjusted for the use case
[11:30] <vila> hi all !
[11:31] <vila> ogra_: on that topic,
[11:31] <ogra_> the current touch unity (also called unity next) will enter the desktop during the 13.10  development cycle (which starts in may)
[11:33] <vila> ogra_: In a hurry the other day wanting to show an up-to-date version of utouch on the nexus7... I found the nexus7-installer and used it. Err, that's not uthouch ;) But nice to look at nevertheless. After an upgrade I lost the ability to use the on-screen keyboard during the install. Which means no way to type a username and as such to finish the install.
[11:34] <vila> ogra_: Now, it doesn't matter that much. But I can't wind the way to install utouch again as 'adb devices' is always empty no matter what way I reboot the nexus7.
[11:34] <ogra_> vila, that should be fixed with the most recent image, the installer was using compiz which was constantly crashing and killing the focus of input fields
[11:34] <ogra_> we switched back to metacity a few days ago
[11:34] <vila> ogra_: I'm using the most recent image according to nexus7-installer.
[11:35] <ogra_> let me check when the actual change happened
[11:37] <ogra_> ubiquity 2.13.18has the change ...
[11:38] <ogra_> hmm, but the latest image doesnt have that ubiquity version
[11:38] <ogra_> vila, i guess you found a bug :)
[11:39]  * ogra_ checks why there is no newer build than from the 15th 
[11:39] <vila> ogra_: great, I'll report it.
[11:39] <ogra_> dont bother, i'm looking already ...
[11:39] <vila> ogra_: Ha, great, let me know the bug # so I can subscribe.
[11:39] <ogra_> seems there were no image builds since the 15th ... though i should have gotten mails about that, not sure what went wrong
[11:40] <vila> ogra_: any work around in the mean time to get a tablet usage back welcome ;)
[11:40] <ogra_> well, the installer works even with compiz if you repeat the install over and over ... it doesnt always crash ...
[11:41] <vila> ogra_: but that's less important than a proper fix, don't lose time on it and thanks for the hard work !
[11:41] <vila> ogra_: It's not a crash, I'm still able to navigate back.
[11:41] <vila> ogra_: there is still no exit though ;)
[11:42] <ogra_> HA !
[11:42] <ogra_> vila, its just the /current link thats wrong  ... apparently there were newer builds ...
[11:43] <ogra_> hmm, but they werent published
[11:43] <vila> ogra_: so re-trying nexus7-installer right now is enough ?
[11:43] <ogra_> nope
[11:43] <vila> ogra_: in a few hours ?
[11:43] <ogra_> something is wrong with the image publisher ...
[11:44] <hopkinskong> ogra_, Is there any special in the logcat?
[11:44] <ogra_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/ has the right dirs ... but no images were published
[11:44] <vila> ogra_: ha, tomorrow ? next week ?
[11:44] <ogra_> hopkinskong, your android build is completely screwed, no idea why but the modules dont match the kernel and the like
[11:45] <hopkinskong> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5657145/
[11:45] <hopkinskong> just leave the modules
[11:45] <hopkinskong> i know why./
[11:45] <ogra_> vila, not sure, everyone is on easter holiday atm
[11:45] <vila> ogra_: yup, me included ;)
[11:45] <hopkinskong> Because the name is different, my kernel is dirty now, but my modules don't.
[11:45]  * ogra_ should be too
[11:45] <hopkinskong> just leave it, it should run without those modules.
[11:45] <ogra_> hopkinskong, well, that doesnt look like you did a proper image build
[11:46] <vila> ogra_: so no pressure really ;)  I can just cancel the demo and wait for the fix.
[11:46] <ogra_> it wont run that way
[11:46] <hopkinskong> do u mean i should download another daily image?
[11:46] <ogra_> vila, well, thanks for the pointer ... given i got no failure mails i didnt keven think abotu checking
[11:47] <ogra_> hopkinskong, there is no issue with the daily image, your android is completely broken
[11:47] <ogra_> find out why, make a new image and try again
[11:47] <hopkinskong> There is no clue in the logcat.
[11:48] <hopkinskong> Idk which part is broken
[11:48] <ogra_> everything. it cant execute the libs and it misses the needed modules
[11:49] <ogra_> i have no idea about your device, you need to find out yourself
[11:50] <hopkinskong> it can execute the libs? Where do u noticed that? In the logcat?
[11:50] <hopkinskong> can't*
[11:50] <ogra_> it definitely is not able to execute stuff from /system
[11:50] <hopkinskong> How do u know that?
[11:50] <ogra_> looks like things are differently compiled
[11:51] <ogra_> and it didnt mount /proc properly either
[11:51] <hopkinskong> it mounted
[11:51] <hopkinskong> i have output on "ls -l /proc"
[11:53] <ogra_> the startup scripts didnt ... your busybox cant be executed ... sorry i really cant help ... do a proper and complete image build, make sure all bits in place come from the same build
[11:53] <hopkinskong> btw
[11:53] <ogra_> it looks like you have only rebuilt some bits but not others
[11:53] <ogra_> and replaced only pieces
[11:53] <hopkinskong> Is EGL included in the cm10.1?
[11:53] <hopkinskong> i mean the .zip file
[11:54] <hopkinskong> Should be "libegl" included?
[11:54] <ogra_> i fyou properly added it by using the android scripts
[11:54] <ogra_> like described on the porting page ...
[11:55] <ogra_> without libEGL/libGLES you will nevefr get the gui to work
[11:55] <hopkinskong> Because i can't find "libegl" in /system/lib, i need compile it standalone.
[11:55] <hopkinskong> What i mean is "libhybris"
[11:55] <hopkinskong> it seems that it won't compile into the .zip
[11:55] <ogra_> libhybris is the translation layer that makes the ubuntu userspace talk to the underlying android layer
[11:56] <hopkinskong> How do i know if libhybris is compiled properly?
[11:56] <ogra_> one part needs to come from the android side, the other half is shipped in the phablet zip file
[11:56] <ogra_> chekc your build log from the brunch run
[11:57] <hopkinskong> do you mean: "brunch leo | tee > ~/Desktop/build_log.log"
[11:57] <hopkinskong> and check build_log?
[11:57] <ogra_> right
[11:57] <ogra_> or just use the scrollback in your terminal if you ran brunch
[11:58] <hopkinskong> i found some entry of "hybris"
[11:58] <hopkinskong> Export includes file:  ubuntu/platform-api/android/hybris/Android.mk -- /media/ubuntudev/android/out/target/product/leo/obj/EXECUTABLES/ubuntuappmanager_intermediates/export_includes
[11:58] <hopkinskong> is it compiling properly?
[11:58] <ogra_> i have no idea
[11:59] <hopkinskong> target thumb C++: libsf_compat_layer <= ubuntu/hybris/compat/surface_flinger/surface_flinger_compatibility_layer.cpp
[11:59]  * ogra_ goes to check the issue with the nexus7 desktop images
[11:59] <hopkinskong> ah, a quick way, what ".so" would be generated if "libhybris" is compiled properly?
[12:07] <om26er> chewie-client build failing on raring: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5657856/ help ?
[12:17] <jhodapp> popey: do you think me email to the YouTube devs was clear enough?
[12:56] <ogra_> vila, code fixed ... there should be a new build soon
[12:56] <vila> ogra_: you rock ! I let you know asap (but casus belly with gf to try it now :-})
[12:59] <ogra_> and there is is :)
[12:59] <pmcgowan> ogra_: whadya fix?
[12:59] <ogra_> pmcgowan, nexus7 desktop image publication was broken
[13:00] <pmcgowan> ah
[13:00] <ogra_> nothing touch related
[13:00] <ogra_> dont worry :)
[13:00] <pmcgowan> I think there may have been a regression yesterday but I did not load it yet
[13:00] <pmcgowan> someone complaned of the camera not working and graphics performance
[13:00] <ogra_> yeah, its weird that so many ports users seem to have issues recently
[13:01] <ogra_> yup saw it in the backlog
[13:01] <pmcgowan> there was a new qtmultimedia
[13:01] <pmcgowan> I am loading now
[13:01] <pmcgowan> we may need to revise our sync strategy
[13:01] <pmcgowan> someone needs to test prior to sync
[13:02] <ogra_> i thought jenkins did .... or is that just buildability ?
[13:02] <pmcgowan> I need to check on what tests are run but clearly not enough
[13:02] <pmcgowan> not at system level
[13:03] <ogra_> for cdimage there is a concept in place but not finished
[13:03] <pmcgowan> but until thats improved maybe we make a manual step
[13:03] <ogra_> right, thats the current plan
[13:03] <pmcgowan> so we wont sync until someone blesses it?
[13:03] <ogra_> QA works on automation but they havet it ready yet
[13:04] <ogra_> we have new subdirs in place on cdimage
[13:04] <ogra_> there is a /pending dir now ... once QA pulled the trigger the content of it gets moved to /current
[13:04] <pmcgowan> just got another wrong number ;)
[13:04] <pmcgowan> sounds good
[13:05] <ogra_> the infrastructure is largely in place ... but the testing side isnt yet afaik
[13:05] <ogra_> it should be read once we build raring touch on cdimage though
[13:05] <ogra_> *ready
[13:05] <pmcgowan> ok
[13:07]  * ogra_ goes back into easter vacation ...
[13:07] <ogra_> (fri and mon are holidays in germany)
[13:50] <blindman82> hi all
[13:52] <blindman82> if i use ubuntu touch instead of android on my nexus 4 what am going to lose?
[13:52] <hopkinskong> datas, apps, etc
[13:53] <blindman82> so i can non longer use apps like facebook whatsapp and viber?
[13:56] <bfiller> pmcgowan, jhodapp : verified camera app is busted in latest image, appears to be a dependency issue. looking into it
[13:56] <pmcgowan> bfiller: thanks, am still downloading
[13:56] <bfiller> pmcgowan: media player works fine though
[13:58] <pmcgowan> blindman82: its just for development right now, we are working on those apps
[13:59] <blindman82> just one last question there is no way to dual boot android and ubuntu on nexus 4 right now?
[14:00] <pmcgowan> I think thats possible but not sure
[14:00] <pmcgowan> our images do not support that
[14:00] <blindman82> thx :)
[14:02] <namo_> привет, Русские есть ?
[14:05] <namo_> Hi, would ubuntu touch for samsung p7500
[14:06] <namo_> ?
[14:07] <mbender71> Hi, are there any secrets to running a QT Quick 2.0 application on an Ubuntu Touch device through QT Creator (Ctrl+F12)? I see the code being copied to the target device and run but I don't see it on the device :-(
[14:08] <pmcgowan> namo_:  check wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[14:08] <pmcgowan> mbender71: it should appear if it uses the approach in the docs
[14:09] <pmcgowan> mbender71: is it in the apps lens?
[14:10] <mbender71> i'm afraid I'm just starting out with Qt & Ubuntu Touch.. very green.. I've been searching and reading as much as I can but I haven't found a reference/resource/example on application details to run on Ubuntu Touch (i.e. settings, methods, etc)
[14:11] <namo_> Thanks
[14:11] <mbender71> I'm coming from the iOS world where pushing ANY template over (no matter how simple) to an iOS device via Xcode just runs.. period.
[14:12] <mbender71> I was expecting specific templates in QT Creator and "Run On Device" to just work. I don't see specific templates..
[14:12] <pmcgowan> you should see ubuntu templates
[14:15] <gusch> bfiller: https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-release-0-0-64/+merge/156164
[14:15] <bfiller> gusch: approved
[14:18] <mbender71> pmcgowan: you are correct. I was using templates under "Application" since the tutorial on Ubuntu's Mobile web site actually doesn't use templates under "Ubuntu" in QT Creator
[14:19] <mbender71> in all honesty, information on Ubuntu's web site (for mobile/touch) is buggy.. it's either outdated or just not enough. perhaps it's due to rapid development pace.. i dunno.
[14:20] <jhodapp> bfiller, thanks
[14:21] <pmcgowan> mbender71: feedback noted
[14:27] <pmcgowan> mbender71: some better examples here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps
[14:27] <pmcgowan> like clock and claculator
[14:28] <mbender71> pmcgowan: fantastic! thank you for the link. I will grab an example and just to push it to my Ubuntu Touch device :-)
[14:34] <bzoltan> mbender71:  how were you trying to "Run on device"?
[14:35] <mbender71> bzoltan: in QT Creator you can CTRL+F12... or Build -> Ubuntu -> Run in Ubuntu Device
[14:36] <mbender71> bzoltan: this is displayed on the top of the "Devices" page within QT Creator when it detects a device
[14:36] <bzoltan> mbender71:  That is the correct way. All Ubuntu templates from the application wizzard runs on the device if the development mode is enabled on the device.
[14:37] <mbender71> bzoltan: i used templates under Application, and not under Ubuntu as per the Currency Calculator example on the ubuntu touch web site
[14:37] <mbender71> bzoltan: perhaps that is my problem
[14:38] <bzoltan> mbender71:  The CtrlF12 support only qml projects with pure QML/JS applications.
[14:39] <bzoltan> mbender71:  at this moment on the Ubuntu Phone you can remote deploy only Ubuntu apps
[14:39] <mbender71> bzoltan: again, i'm a newbie to Qt and very green. So Qt Quick UI will *not* run through CtrlF12, only Qt Quick Applications right?
[14:41] <bzoltan> mbender71:  No worries :) both the Ubuntu Phone and the Qt5 Quick2 technology are so new that nobody is expected to be  guru yet :)
[14:41] <mbender71> bzoltan: I'm starting fresh here and not trying to force anything to the Ubuntu Phone. Just trying to learn the proper steps and configuration to make an app for ubuntu touch
[14:42] <rickspencer3> mbender71, I'm blogging my experiences as I go
[14:42] <bzoltan> mbender71:  At this moment Ubuntu Phone supports only Ubuntu applications. Both the vanilla Qt Quick Applications  and Qt Quick UI project templates will miss essential files and configuration.
[14:43] <rickspencer3> http://theravingrick.blogspot.com
[14:44] <mbender71> pmcgowan: just grabbed the ubuntu-calculator-app. i'm able to run it on my ubuntu desktop, but no luck at all with CtrlF12. Should i do something special on the Ubuntu Phone first before trying to run it? Perhaps be at a special screen/menu?
[14:44] <pmcgowan> mbender71: if I remember that key shortcut needs to be set in qt creator
[14:45] <pmcgowan> mbender71: try from the menu Build > Ubuntu > run on device
[14:46] <bzoltan> mbender71:  Did you enable the development mode on the device?
[14:47] <rickspencer3> here's what I do ...
[14:47] <rickspencer3> click the devices button at the bottom of the left channel
[14:47] <rickspencer3> click "Detect Devices" in the top right
[14:47] <rickspencer3> click "Enable Developer Mode" if necessary
[14:47] <rickspencer3> then I can interact with it through QtCreator :)
[14:51] <mbender71> rickspencer3: good stuff there, but I managed to figure that out yesterday and have no problems with QT Creator connecting to the device (and set to Developer mode).
[14:51] <rickspencer3> :)
[14:52] <mbender71> *bingo* goodness.. i just decided to pull the battery, reboot, reconnect to network, and reconnect to phone to my desktop and then did Build -> ubuntu -> run on device and the calculator came up!
[14:52] <pmcgowan> woot
[14:52] <bzoltan> mbender71: did you try to open an Ubuntu app template and deploy on the device?
[14:52] <mbender71> THANK YOU ALL (for putting up with me).
[14:53] <bzoltan> mbender71:  Good job! :)
[14:53] <mbender71> Now i know I have an environment/setup that I can begin learning with! Again, thank you!
[14:54] <rickspencer3> have fun mbender71
[14:55] <mbender71> for clarification : I must use/start with the Ubuntu templates in Qt Creator? I noticed they are all UI and not Application
[14:56] <pmcgowan> mbender71: we are encouraging folks to stay within QML as much as possible
[14:59] <harrisr> is the ubuntu tablet out yet or can i put it on my smaung galaxy tab 2 10.1
[14:59] <bzoltan> mbender71:  the support for Qt C++/QML hybrid apps will come later, but as pmcgowan said, right now the focus is on pure QML/JS apps.
[14:59] <ogra_> it wont be "out" before october .... its mainly for preview and development currently
[15:00] <ogra_> harrisr, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[15:00] <mbender71> bzoltan: hence the absence of Qt Quick Application templates, on the UI templates right now :-)
[15:01] <bzoltan> mbender71: Exactly
[15:02] <harrisr> Work in progress
[15:02] <harrisr> Please try to keep the tables sorted.
[15:02] <harrisr> Device
[15:02] <harrisr> Code name
[15:02] <harrisr> Unlocking instructions
[15:02] <harrisr> Install instructions
[15:02] <harrisr> Code/Image
[15:02] <harrisr> Contact person
[15:02] <harrisr> Adevent Vega
[15:02] <harrisr> p10an01
[15:02] <harrisr> WIP
[15:02] <harrisr> WIP
[15:02] <harrisr> TabletRoms Forum
[15:02] <harrisr> HyperTurtle
[15:02] <harrisr> Alcatel OT-995
[15:02] <harrisr> cocktail
[15:02] <harrisr> WIP
[15:02] <harrisr> WIP
[15:02] <harrisr> WIP
[15:02] <ogra_> harrisr, !
[15:02] <harrisr> ~fonix232
[15:02] <harrisr> HP Touchpad
[15:02] <harrisr> WIP
[15:02] <harrisr> WIP
[15:02] <harrisr> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175277
[15:02] <harrisr> HTC One X+
[15:02] <harrisr> enrc2b
[15:02] <harrisr> WIP
[15:02] <harrisr> WIP
[15:02] <harrisr> WIP
[15:02] <mbender71> kick perhaps?
[15:02] <harrisr> ~Lloir
[15:02] <harrisr> HTC One X+
[15:03] <harrisr> evitareul
[15:03] <harrisr> WIP
[15:03] <harrisr> WIP
[15:03] <harrisr> WIP
[15:03] <harrisr> ~Lloir
[15:03] <harrisr> HTC One XL
[15:03] <harrisr> evita
[15:03] <harrisr> WIP
[15:03] <harrisr> WIP
[15:03] <harrisr> WIP
[15:03] <harrisr> ~rohan32
[15:03] <harrisr> HTC Sensation 4G
[15:03] <harrisr> pyramid
[15:03] <harrisr> WIP
[15:03] <harrisr> WIP
[15:03] <harrisr> http://www.droidevs.com/showthread.php?t=1107
[15:03] <ogra_> oh my
[15:03] <harrisr> DragünKorr
[15:03] <harrisr> HTC Sensation XL
[15:03] <harrisr> runnymede
[15:03] <harrisr> WIP
[15:03] <harrisr> WIP
[15:03] <harrisr> WIP
[15:03] <harrisr> ~lexmazter
[15:03] <harrisr> Kindle Fire HD 7"
[15:03] <harrisr> tate
[15:03] <harrisr> WIP
[15:03] <harrisr> WIP
[15:03] <harrisr> WIP
[15:04] <harrisr> ~hashcode0f
[15:04] <harrisr> LG Optimus 4x HD
[15:04] <harrisr> eternity
[15:04] <harrisr> WIP
[15:04] <harrisr> WIP
[15:04] <harrisr> WIP
[15:04] <harrisr> ashley.johnson [at] madmedialabs [dot] com
[15:04] <harrisr> LG Optimus 2x
[15:04] <harrisr> p990
[15:04] <harrisr> WIP
[15:04] <harrisr> WIP
[15:04] <harrisr> XDA Forums
[15:04] <harrisr> ~rugglez
[15:04] <harrisr> Motorola Atrix
[15:04] <harrisr> olympus
[15:04] <harrisr> WIP
[15:04] <harrisr> WIP
[15:04] <harrisr> WIP
[15:04] <harrisr> Scott Weldon
[15:04] <harrisr> Nexus S
[15:04] <harrisr> crespo
[15:04] <harrisr> WIP
[15:04] <harrisr> WIP
[15:04] <ogra_> k1l_, would you mind ?
[15:04] <harrisr> WIP
[15:04] <harrisr> ~michaelevans
[15:04] <pmcgowan> this could take a while
[15:04] <harrisr> Notion Ink Adam PQi 3G
[15:04] <harrisr> adam_3g
[15:04] <harrisr> WIP
[15:05] <ogra_> pmcgowan, heh, yeah, its a long lost
[15:05] <rickspencer3> pastebin.ubuntu.com ... just sayin'
[15:05]  * ogra_ hugs k1l_ 
[15:05] <oSoMoN> :)
[15:05] <k1l_> np
[15:05] <ogra_> rickspencer3, well, there isnt really a need to pastebin the whole Ports wikipage
[15:05] <ogra_> :)
[15:05] <rickspencer3> bzoltan, do you know what's up with that weird bar across the top of my app when I use MainView
[15:05] <tassadar_> which irc client is soooo smart it lets people send messages that long Oo
[15:05] <rickspencer3> ogra_, ;)
[15:06] <bzoltan> What the hack was that?
[15:06] <ogra_> someone (likely accidentially) pasted the whole of the Ports wikipage
[15:08] <bzoltan> rickspencer3: You just found a bug! Thanks for that.
[15:08] <rickspencer3> hi bzoltan, oh, it's been happening for day
[15:08] <rickspencer3> bzoltan, I'll log a bug, can you remind me of the link?
[15:09] <bzoltan> rickspencer3: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins I do not always check all templates every day... it is an issue with the single page apps
[15:12] <jhodapp> awe, where'd you post that link?
[15:12] <awe> in the mumble chat window!  ;)
[15:12] <awe> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-telephony-stack
[15:12] <jhodapp> awe, oh I never saw it
[15:13] <jhodapp> awe, usually I hear a sound too, didn't hear one for a posted link
[15:13] <jhodapp> thanks
[15:14] <bfiller> ChickenCutlass: can you approve this MR: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/camera-app/camera-app-2.8/+merge/156178 fixes the broken camera in the build
[15:15] <mterry> mzanetti, so my lightdm branch...  if I can fix the autopilot issues, did you approve the branch besides?
[15:19] <rickspencer3> bzoltan, sounds like a good place for an automated test
[15:20] <davmor2> Hey guys I managed to pick up a galaxy nexus and I'm trying to flash it.  I've unlocked it, enabled debug, but the phablet-flash -b -l just reports back Device detected as crespo
[15:20] <davmor2> Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[15:20] <davmor2> is there anyway round this?
[15:21] <ogra_> davmor2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices .... seems there is no workign port yet
[15:21] <rickspencer3> bzoltan, bug #1161910
[15:21] <rickspencer3> bzoltan, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me how to fix it
[15:21] <ogra_> davmor2, you could try to port it yourself though https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[15:22] <davmor2> ogra_: this is a samsung galaxy nexus I bought it because it was one of the defaults
[15:22] <ogra_> crespo isnt the nexus we support
[15:23] <davmor2> son of a.....
[15:23] <pmcgowan> someone is working on a port acc to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[15:28] <ogra_> davmor2, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38383768&postcount=1
[15:28] <ogra_> there seems to be an early port
[15:29] <davmor2> ogra_: yeap just found it seems I got the s and not the normal version
[15:29] <ogra_> yup
[15:30] <netanalyzer> hi
[15:30] <davmor2> ogra_: and I thought I was doing so well finally finding one :)
[15:30] <ogra_> heh
[15:31]  * ogra_ just ported to an old galaxy S2 he had lying around 
[15:31] <rickspencer3> bzoltan, I also have another question if you have a moment, how do I add the ability for my app to quit/exit?
[15:31] <ogra_> was easier than trying to find a nexus
[15:32] <netanalyzer> noob question, can i port ubuntu touch to single core device?
[15:32] <pmcgowan> rickspencer3: I thought you got the hud for free
[15:33] <rickspencer3> pmcgowan, I do get the hud, but when I tell it to quit the app, it doesn't quit
[15:33] <rickspencer3> in other words, the exit button doesn't work
[15:33] <pmcgowan> I see
[15:33] <ogra_> netanalyzer, if its cortex-a9 ... but it wont be fun to run it
[15:33] <pmcgowan> rickspencer3: wonder if thats an issue getting all the names lined up, match the appname to the desktop etc
[15:34] <rickspencer3> pmcgowan, could be
[15:34] <rickspencer3> especially since the app is not installed
[15:34] <netanalyzer> 1.5 GHz ARM Cortex-A9
[15:34] <ChickenCutlass> bfiller: approved
[15:34] <netanalyzer> yep ogra_ htc sensation xl
[15:34] <bfiller> ChickenCutlass: as I said, thanks
[15:34] <pmcgowan> rickspencer3: it should work on uninstalled apps, does that is
[15:35] <ogra_> netanalyzer, should work, but dont expect miracles ... it wont perform great
[15:35] <netanalyzer> ok tnx ogra_
[15:36] <rickspencer3> pmcgowan, it might be a bug in the the app base class or app template or something
[15:36] <rickspencer3> I'll log a bug
[15:37] <rickspencer3> pmcgowan, I logged bug #1161918
[15:37] <rickspencer3> I'll make a minimal reproducer later this weekend
[15:37] <rickspencer3> probably don't want to spend my *whole* day off dinking with apps ;)
[16:05] <vair> job done! OKAY [  0.353s] finished. total time: 0.973s Once completed the device should reboot into Ubuntu
[17:30] <Tera_Giga_MegS> When will Qt be better intergrated into 12.04 ?
[17:35] <[Mechanic]> Tera_Giga_MegS, heheeh
[18:11] <robertjw> having trouble entering wifi password to bring up the network (Nexus 7).  Putting focus in the password field does not bring up a keyboard.
[18:12] <robertjw> is there some workaround to bring up a soft keyboard so that the wifi password can be entered?
[18:12] <pmcgowan> robertjw: there was a regression in the osk yesterday
[18:13] <pmcgowan> can you connect it to your pc with usb
[18:13] <robertjw> that explains it, i just flashed the most recent build
[18:13] <pmcgowan> then use phablet-network-setup to copy your pc connection over
[18:13] <pmcgowan> if its wifi
[18:14] <robertjw> sounds like a good workaround
[18:14] <pmcgowan> btw use -i and it will set up the ssh server as well
[18:14] <robertjw> phablet-network-setup -i
[18:22] <robertjw> that works well, thanks for the jumpstart
[19:32] <harris> will ubuntu for tablet come to samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1
[19:37] <harris> is ubuntu touch this http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet
[19:38] <harris> is ubuntu touch this http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet
[19:39] <holstein> !patience | harris
[19:39] <holstein> harris: ubuntu for tablet is not "coming" to any device like that anytime soon that im aware or
[19:39] <holstein> are you asking if it'll run on your device?
[19:39] <harris> yes
[19:39] <holstein> harris: that page is what it says it is
[19:40] <holstein> harris: whats the issue?
[19:40] <harris> what ?\
[19:40] <harris> what does that page is what it says it is mean
[19:40] <holstein> harris: what is your question
[19:40] <harris> can i get ubuntu on my tablet
[19:41] <holstein> harris: you cannont buy that tablet with ubuntu on it
[19:41] <harris> no i have the tablet
[19:41] <holstein> harris: you are wanting to know if that device is supported?
[19:41] <harris> can i put http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet on it
[19:41] <harris> yes
[19:41] <harris> seems really cool
[19:42] <holstein> harris: i searche "ubuntu supported tablet list" and came up with this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TabletList
[19:43] <harris> only the galaxy tab 10.1 is on list
[19:44] <harris> not 2 10.1
[19:44] <holstein> harris: thats what i see
[19:44] <harris> so i cant get ubuntu
[19:44] <holstein> also, it says no support for the 10.1
[19:45] <holstein> harris: well, its all open, so its likely not that ubuntu cant run on it.. its more likely not being allowed to run there.. or too much hassle
[19:45] <harris> man
[19:45] <harris> the video really looked cool :(
[19:46] <holstein> harris: the video coolness is likely at the same level as before
[19:46] <harris> what do you mean as before
[19:47] <holstein> harris: the video is still cool
[19:47] <harris> yeah but i cant get it because cononical is too lazy to make it work
[19:47] <holstein> !volnteers | harris
[19:47] <holstein> !volunteers | harris [C[C[C[C[C[C[C
[19:48] <holstein> harris: as i stated, its likely either too locked down, or too much hassle to get it running
[19:48] <holstein> harris: the source is, and AFAIK, will always be available.. you can work on it as much as you like
[19:48] <harris> what do you mean locked down
[19:49] <harris> im going to try this
[19:49] <holstein> harris: i mean, the device came with an operating system.. and the device manufacturer did say to you, in any way "feel free to run what you like on it"
[19:49] <holstein> harris: running what you like on it might void the warranty
[19:50] <harris> the warrenty is up
[19:50] <holstein> harris: i assure you laziness is not a factor
[20:17] <harris> holstein,  will pressing the POWER and VOLUME UP button or about 30 seconds until it shuts off and restarts.  "Wipe data/Factory Reset" by pressing VOLUME UP/DOWN and press POWER button to select. still work
[21:42] <shrty4luvsgs3> hello have anyone heard of drivedroid
[21:55] <mutantkeyboard> shrty4luvsgs3: that's some sort of thing that allows phone that boots ISO/IMG AFAIK... ?!?!
[23:35] <thisguy> quick question are there any alternative ways to make a flashable zip? im on the step on making a flashable zip but when i do brunch msm8660-common it doesn't do it and does a bunch of other stuff. is there any other way to make a installable image?
[23:36] <ment0s> Hello
[23:38] <ment0s> I have installed ubuntu touch preview on my nexus 7 a while ago but obviously it wasn't very usefull at that stage. I would like to ask you if there are any updates on image or its still at that stage?, cannot find any info online. Please help