[06:07] <Kilos> morning all
[07:14] <Kilos> hi superfly  Cantide  
[07:14] <Cantide> hey Kilos :)
[07:14]  * Cantide sips his coffee
[07:14] <Cantide> nice and cool and cloudy here in Durbs
[07:14] <Cantide> perfect for coffee :)
[07:15] <Kilos> hehe
[07:18] <Kilos> ive lost my unaffiliated status somehow
[07:19] <Kilos> musta disappeared with maaz
[07:20] <superfly> Kilos: hi, and bye, ons gaan kerk toe
[07:20] <Kilos> bid vir my ook asb
[07:20]  * superfly waves at Cantide
[07:21]  * Cantide waves back~
[07:27] <Cantide> Kilos, and now you are unaffiliated :p
[07:28] <Kilos> yeah i asked the peeps at #freenode wassup
[07:28] <Kilos> they said i have to identify everytime
[07:28] <Kilos> used to just keep it
[07:29] <Kilos> maybe because im alsways using different drives
[07:29] <Kilos> always too
[07:38] <Kilos> yo not_found  
[07:47] <not_found> alo uncle Kilos 
[07:47] <Kilos> when are you neil and when lost?
[07:47] <Kilos> or both nicks from same place not_found  ?
[07:47] <not_found> depend which client is logged in and if one of them has timed out etc.
[07:48] <not_found> one is primary, one secondary etc
[07:48] <Kilos> oh
[07:48] <Symmetria> kilos Im seeing fanie on tuesday
[07:49] <Symmetria> the other good news, ke.archive.ubuntu.com which was always in south africa but always had really shitty routing from kenya
[07:49] <Kilos> ah lekker ty Symmetria  
[07:49] <Symmetria> because it went za -> lnd -> za
[07:49] <Symmetria> ooops ke -> lnd -> za
[07:49] <Symmetria> now goes ke -> za
[07:49] <Kilos> did you do that?
[07:49] <Symmetria> so latencies are way down and speeds are way up for the kenyans
[07:49] <Symmetria> heh kilos I pulled up a gig circuit between kenya and south africa last night
[07:49] <Symmetria> and announced all the kenyan routes at jinx
[07:49] <Symmetria> ;p
[07:49] <Kilos> well done
[07:50] <Kilos> anything to make then net better here
[07:50] <Kilos> been a bac coupla weeks
[07:50] <Kilos> bad too
[07:51] <Kilos> buy yourself a box of easter eggs and share with the dog
[07:51] <Kilos> easter eggs got the best chocolate
[07:51] <Symmetria> lol
[07:51] <Symmetria> I bought myself something better yesterday
[07:52] <Kilos> what 
[07:52] <Symmetria> to celebrate my business success since the beginning of the year 
[07:52] <Symmetria> a bottle of chivas regal royal salute 21 year old
[07:52] <Symmetria> ;p
[07:52] <Kilos> eish
[07:54] <Kilos> actually i think chocolate is bad for dogs but booze is worse
[07:54] <Kilos> hi psyatw  
[07:54] <Symmetria> lol 
[07:54] <psyatw> hi Kilos 
[07:54] <psyatw> hi Symmetria 
[07:58] <Kilos> bmg505: you here
[07:58] <Kilos> ?
[08:00] <Symmetria> kilos: http://www.alstonnetworks.net/whisky.jpg
[08:00] <Symmetria> lol kinda a crappy quality picture
[08:00] <Symmetria> but yeah
[08:01] <not_found> night shift so I go sleep some... bye
[08:02] <Kilos> night not_found  
[08:02] <Kilos> sleep tight
[08:02] <Kilos> you crazy Symmetria  
[08:03] <Kilos> i understand something lekker like amarula
[08:03] <Kilos> not just yuck taste and headache
[08:04] <Symmetria> heh whisky doesnt give headaches if its decent stuff
[08:04] <Symmetria> and it tastes good
[08:04] <Symmetria> ;p
[08:04] <Kilos> ai!
[08:04] <Kilos> i cant even stand the smell of whisky
[08:05] <Kilos> its and aquired taste thing peeps say
[08:05] <Kilos> eeeek
[08:09] <Kilos> but thats a nice bottle
[08:09] <Symmetria> hehe its an awesome bottle
[08:09] <Symmetria> and comes in a little velvet bag
[08:09] <Symmetria> and they gave me a display stand for it as well ;p
[08:12] <Kilos> lol
[09:16] <Kilos> hi Vince-0  
[09:16] <Vince-0> Hi!
[10:02] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday  
[12:19] <zeref> hello
[12:19] <zeref> hello
[12:21] <Cantide> hi :)
[12:36] <Trixar_za> You know, those Colgate dentists must be crap at their jobs if family members have bloody or swollen gums. Just saying.
[13:18] <theblazehen> hi all]
[13:24] <magespawn> afternoon all
[13:24] <theblazehen> Hi magespawn
[13:25] <magespawn> hey hey 
[13:25] <theblazehen> whats up?
[13:25] <magespawn> not much and you, working on the holiday
[13:26] <theblazehen> also not much
[14:12] <zeref> whoah
[14:13] <magespawn> any body got some suggestions for web editing in kde?
[14:13] <magespawn> hey zeref
[14:13] <zeref> hey magespawn 
[14:13] <zeref> magespawn: what do u mean by web editing?
[14:14] <magespawn> html, css, javascript
[14:14] <magespawn> a good ide preferable
[14:20] <magespawn> web development
[14:25] <Kilos> afternoon peeps
[14:25] <Kilos> you still here psyatw  ?
[14:25] <Kilos> whew
[14:25] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[14:25] <Kilos> hi magespawn  i see you can buy bios chips
[14:26] <magespawn> zeref both quanta+ and kompozer are no longer in the software centre
[14:26] <Kilos> the 8 pin ones should be easy to replace
[14:26] <magespawn> you yes, but most are soldered onto the board directly
[14:27] <Kilos> no man the 8 pins are fine. you cut old one out then remove pins then suck holes clean
[14:28] <Kilos> is the very many pin ones that will be tough
[14:29] <magespawn> i think i would make a hash of it first time
[14:29] <Kilos> i had a hang here and when rebooting went to initramfs
[14:29] <Kilos> sigh
[14:29] <Kilos> hate seeing that
[14:30] <Kilos> what you guys doing
[14:30] <Kilos> its the fly's fault. he forgot to pray for me this morning
[14:31] <magespawn> right
[14:32] <psyatw> yes, I am still here Kilos 
[14:32] <psyatw> good afternoon
[14:32] <psyatw> hello magespawn
[14:32] <psyatw> hi zeref 
[14:32] <psyatw> and theblazehen
[14:33] <magespawn> hey psyatw
[14:33] <psyatw> and Cantide Trixar_za and whoever else I may have forgotten :)
[14:33] <theblazehen> Hi psyatw
[14:33] <Cantide> '-'/
[15:25] <Trixar_za> Sometimes the access to information the internet gives us is a bad thing.
[15:25] <Trixar_za> Re: Albert Fish
[16:04] <magespawn> later all, home time
[16:04] <magespawn> .away
[16:58] <Cantide> guys... google search for this -> 1.2+(sqrt(1-(sqrt(x^2+y^2))^2) + 1 - x^2-y^2) * (sin (10000 * (x*3+y/5+7))+1/4) from -1.6 to 1.6
[16:58] <Cantide> and then enjoy easter :p
[17:06] <theblazehen> Whats it do?
[17:14] <Cantide> displays a graph
[17:21] <Kilos> yo yusuf_  
[17:22] <yusuf_> hello Kilos 
[17:22] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn  
[17:23] <nlsthzn> Good evening uncle Kilos
[17:26] <theblazehen> Hi kilos
[17:26] <Kilos> hi smile4ever  
[17:26] <Kilos> hi theblazehen  
[17:31] <inetpro> good morning
[17:31]  * inetpro testing installation of raring ringtail
[17:32] <inetpro> somehow lost connectivity during the installation process and now it's hanging https://plus.google.com/114254397525521567468/posts/bXRRM5qcguv
[17:32] <inetpro> tumbleweed: is there a way to force it to resume after a hang like that ^^ ?
[17:33] <inetpro> so close to the end
[17:37] <inetpro> Kilos: good evening
[17:37] <Kilos> ohi inetpro  
[17:38] <inetpro> Kilos: you've done so many installations, have you had it hang on you during installation like that ^^ ?
[17:38] <Kilos> yeah i just start from scratch again
[17:39]  * inetpro trying Ubuntu Unity 13.04 beta
[17:39] <inetpro> ai!
[17:39] <Kilos> lol
[17:39] <inetpro> guess I shall have to do it... but I don't like that as a solution
[17:39] <inetpro> should not happen like that
[17:40] <Kilos> its better to get a good install first
[17:40] <Kilos> then  sort other probs the right way
[17:40]  * superfly doesn't get this "install multiple times for a good install"
[17:40] <inetpro> yep I guess I should rather install without connection to the interwebs
[17:40] <superfly> it's software, it either works or it doesn't, there's no "sometimes"
[17:40] <superfly> if it's "sometimes" it means your hardware is bad
[17:41] <inetpro> superfly: I definitely lost connectivity during the installation process
[17:41] <smile4ever> hi Kilos :D
[17:42] <inetpro> am with family in Mpumalanga and since this morning we're struggling with MTN
[17:42] <superfly> ah
[17:42] <inetpro> yesterday had excellent connectivity
[17:42] <Kilos> most likely a half installed package or something
[17:43] <inetpro> so much that I could download isos without a problem
[17:43] <Kilos> cant you ctrl +alt+f2 even
[17:43] <inetpro> but have tested now with different sims and it looks like a general MTN problem here now
[17:44] <superfly> inetpro: it would help if your photo was a little bigger than my pinkie nail
[17:44] <Kilos> lol
[17:45] <inetpro> superfly: true :-)
[17:45] <inetpro> not sure why some of my photos come out so small these days
[17:45] <inetpro> on me Nexus S
[17:46] <superfly> inetpro: use a bigger tablet - they'll come out bigger :-P
[17:46] <Kilos> hmm i see it 4 fingers wide and three high
[17:46] <inetpro> haha
[17:48] <Kilos> inetpro: what pc?
[17:48] <Kilos> and graphics card
[17:51] <inetpro> Kilos: Asus laptop, but that should not be a factor at this stage, I think
[17:52] <Kilos> ah was just thinking if its upgrading while installing maybe graphics not good enough like mine
[17:52] <Kilos> so install already lets hear before bedtime
[17:58] <inetpro> superfly: if you look at my stream there's a better screenshot now
[17:59] <superfly> inetpro: but is it stalling at that particular point?
[17:59] <inetpro> not sure how to get a link from a posting to a limited circle
[17:59] <inetpro> superfly: yes, but I'll start over now
[18:00] <tumbleweed> inetpro: yeah, not much hope
[18:00] <tumbleweed> (well, I mean, re-installing will be quicker than trynig to rescue it)
[18:00] <inetpro> tumbleweed: I guess
[18:01] <tumbleweed> if you kill the process that's blocking the network connection
[18:01] <tumbleweed> I expect the installer will abort
[18:05] <inetpro> tumbleweed: eish
[18:06]  * inetpro installing now without choosing third party installations
[18:06] <inetpro> should be quick
[18:06] <inetpro> wow!
[18:06] <Kilos> what
[18:07] <tumbleweed> yeah, I don't like how vulnerable the installer is to the network
[18:07] <inetpro> got another option now to "Upgrade Ubuntu Raring Ringtail to Ubuntu 13.04"
[18:07] <inetpro> trying that
[18:08] <tumbleweed> err wat
[18:08] <Kilos> ya inetpro  install with no internet
[18:08] <tumbleweed> raring ringtail *is* 13.04
[18:08] <Kilos> then update/upgrade later
[18:09] <Cantide> 13.04 is looking nice :)
[18:09] <Cantide> i might wait for the next LTS though..
[18:25] <magespawn> evening all
[18:26] <superfly> hi magespawn
[18:26] <magespawn> hey superfly
[18:30] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[18:31] <magespawn> hey hey
[18:31] <inetpro> mtn is an absolute nightmare today
[18:31] <Kilos> that sucks inetpro  
[18:32] <Kilos> mtn was the worst ive ud=sed here
[18:32] <magespawn> state of affairs almost anywhere out of a city
[18:32] <Kilos> used too
[18:32] <magespawn> not just with mtn either
[18:33] <inetpro> yesterday we actually got download speeds of 10MBps not mbps here in Mpumalanga
[18:33] <Kilos> wow
[18:33] <inetpro> was such a pleasure
[18:33] <Kilos> yeah would be
[18:34] <Kilos> on 3g??
[18:34] <inetpro> Kilos: yes
[18:34] <Kilos> sjoe steal the modem
[18:34] <inetpro> haha
[18:35] <Kilos> hehe
[18:35] <Kilos> ive never got close to 1/2 a MB/s
[18:36] <inetpro> a very nice Huawei B683 from MTN on an uncapped account
[18:43] <Kilos> methinks speeds are controlled by the providers and their different areas
[18:43] <Kilos> any modem will do same speed here
[18:47] <Kilos> so inetpro  did this install go cleanly?
[18:48] <magespawn> has anyone tried the E3551 wifi router?
[18:49] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm still waiting
[18:50] <Kilos> wow, should be less than 25 mins man
[18:50] <Kilos> ai! you updating same time again
[18:50] <Kilos> ai!
[18:51] <inetpro> downloads are taking forever
[18:52] <inetpro> I can see data running in the background, but the network is absolutely dog slow
[18:53]  * inetpro just called MTN
[18:53] <inetpro> all they can tell is that technicians will be able to assist only from Tuesday at 8:00
[18:54] <Kilos> lol
[18:54] <inetpro> surely they should have technicians on standby
[18:55] <Kilos> not the qualified data guys
[18:55] <inetpro> I actually think something went wrong last night when we had a very big thunderstorm in the area
[18:55] <Kilos> they almost work office hours
[18:55] <magespawn> that is a nice piece of kit inetpro
[18:56] <inetpro> from hop 5 onwards we get packet losses of > 80%
[18:56] <Kilos> ouch
[18:57] <inetpro> maybe I should just restart the installation from fresh again without any connectivity
[18:57] <magespawn> wow thats high
[18:58] <inetpro> but first, I just pulled the network
[18:58] <inetpro> just waiting to see what happens now
[18:59] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:00] <Kilos> ai! lets hope
[19:00] <inetpro> looks like nothing happening... yet
[19:00] <inetpro> ahh hang on
[19:00] <Kilos> still installing?
[19:00] <inetpro> error occurred while restoring previously installed app....
[19:00] <smile4ever> anyone installed wfs office yet? :p
[19:02] <Kilos> inetpro: install without internet man
[19:02] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel darem
[19:04]  * inetpro likes to do proper testing
[19:04] <inetpro> and if it doesn't work, find out why
[19:05] <Kilos> you know the prob is with mtn tonight so get the install done first
[19:05] <inetpro> Kilos: but it's a good test, when you know something else like networking, is problematic
[19:06] <Kilos> then when upgrading you can do that sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:07] <Kilos> with all those packet losses arent erros kreeping in too?
[19:07] <Kilos> creeping
[19:07] <Kilos> like bad downloads
[19:15] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. good luck with mtn inetpro  
[19:21] <superfly> inetpro: my internet connection is terribly tonight
[19:33] <smile4ever> goodbye
[19:33] <smile4ever> :)
[19:56] <inetpro> on top of my connection it seems this Asus laptop with only 512 MB RAM is not very happy this evening
[19:56] <inetpro> everything seems very very slow
[20:13] <inetpro> definitely not a nice intro to the Ubuntu world
[21:01] <magespawn> good night all
[21:47] <inetpro> the Amazon Ads and Data Leaks issue is a real problem
[21:48] <inetpro> slowing down a slow laptop with slow Internet to a frustrating grind
[21:50] <inetpro> disabling search the internet in the Privacy app helps a huge lot