[13:41] <zequence> len-1304: I'm looking at orphanded Debian packages, to see if there's something worth maintaining, as a step towards learning packaging http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned
[13:42] <len-1304> I wish I had one off the top of my head to tell you :)
[13:42] <len-1304> gcdmaster :)
[13:42] <zequence> Doesn't seem to be on that list
[13:43] <zequence> It has a maintainer Christian Hübschi
[13:43] <zequence> huebschi.christian@gmail.com
[13:43] <len-1304> sounds ominous. 
[13:44] <len-1304> does that mean someone is actually updating it or that it is just being used for cdrdao?
[13:44] <zequence> Here's a list of packages up for adoption http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage
[13:44] <zequence> It jsut means it's considered to be maintained
[13:44] <zequence> If it's not being maintained, it should probably be orphaned
[13:44] <len-1304> Well cdrdao is being maintained and there is a package
[13:45] <len-1304> it is just being build without the GUI
[13:45] <len-1304> (which it does automatically if it can't find the right libs)
[13:47] <zequence> cdrdao is actually orphaned
[13:48] <zequence> Same maintainer
[13:48] <len-1304> gcdmaster is a part of  that
[13:49] <len-1304> cdrdao once is used by a number of other projects... including ardour
[13:49] <len-1304> though not directly
[13:49] <zequence> To me it seems it's the other way around
[13:50] <zequence> gcdmaster depends on cdrdao
[13:50] <len-1304> how so?
[13:50] <len-1304> yes
[13:50] <len-1304> k3b, ardour and others also depend on cdrdao
[13:51] <len-1304> not as a depend, but the workflow depends on it
[13:51] <len-1304> I don't think there is any other disk at once cd writer, is there?
[13:52] <zequence> I'll think about taking this on. I'll put it on a list
[13:52] <len-1304> I can't get cdrdao once to build even, but I am not using the package from ubuntu or debian.
[13:53] <len-1304> I am using the tarball
[13:53] <len-1304> The needed libs for gcdmaster are still in repo BY the way.
[14:47] <len-1304> zequence, cdrecord does do some DAO recording (the cdrkit page on the other hand just says it is a fork but has almost no documentation at all) using .cue files
[14:48] <len-1304> I do not know if cue files allow all the features that .toc files allow... or for that matter if ardour uses all the features cdrdao provides
[15:01] <zequence> len-1304: I just applied for Debian Multimedia Team membership
[15:02] <len-1304> OK, I thought you had already :) good
[15:03] <zequence> I was waiting. Was going to work on bug fixing and such first, but it seemed like now was a good time as my packaging skills have improved that much
[15:04] <zequence> I'll be taking over maintenance for cdrdao and maybe gcdmaster as well
[15:04] <len-1304> They are both the saem package.
[15:04] <zequence> to begin with
[15:04] <zequence> They are not
[15:05] <zequence> Not in Debian, anyway
[15:05] <zequence> ah, no
[15:05] <zequence> I see
[15:05] <zequence> I never checked the source package
[15:13] <zequence> Made a mistake about cdrdao. Not considered a multimedia package. There's one team that deals with cdr-tools, and is a fairly small team
[15:14] <len-1304> Just reading the cdrtools (the cdrecord page)
[15:14] <len-1304> It appears that cdrkit is also unmaintained
[15:15] <len-1304> My look at the cdrkit page seems to confirm that
[15:15] <len-1304> cdrkit has not been touched since 2007
[15:18] <len-1304> zequence, ubuntu and debian use cdrkit. It also appears unmaintained. Soon there will be no cd writing packages :)
[15:21] <zequence> Last commit to cdrkit on Debian was 2010
[15:21] <zequence> By a former Debian project lead
[15:21] <zequence> That was upstream though
[15:21] <zequence> Last debian changelog entry is 2011
[15:47] <len-1304> I was just gong by their web page
[15:48] <len-1304> The last release was old
[15:49] <len-1304> Ya 2010
[15:49] <len-1304> I'm looking at too many pages.
[15:50] <len-1304> Anyway, there are still some issues with cdrkit in some modes.
[15:51] <len-1304> It seems to work fine if the image is first written to disk, but has problems doing on the fly writing... taking a collection of files and writing them to a dvd without making an image first.
[15:51] <len-1304> k3b tries to do this by default.
[15:52] <len-1304> I am told cdrecord works this way.
[16:49] <ubuntu-studio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5658652/
[17:10] <zequence> When I added the PromptOnLogout, it worked once. then each time I tried clicking the menu i never got the menu. It would jsut logout