[00:05] <yofel> weird
[04:00] <valorie> Riddell: I just checked all the links from kubuntu.org
[04:00] <valorie> and they are all correct
[04:01] <valorie> not sure where this fellow found a download link
[04:06] <ahoneybun> Hello people?
[04:26] <valorie> hi ahoneybun
[04:31] <ahoneybun> valorie: hello! I saw your name on the mail
[04:31] <ahoneybun> digest
[04:31] <valorie> ah
[04:32] <valorie> don't worry, I won't buttonhole you for your vote
[04:32] <valorie> lol
[04:32] <ahoneybun> I wish you luck 
[04:32] <ahoneybun> yea I know lol
[04:32] <valorie> it's nice to have a title, but I'm here anyway
[04:33] <valorie> like a burr; they can't get rid of me
[04:33] <ahoneybun> yea lol
[04:33] <ahoneybun> I'm honored by all the work you have done!
[04:34] <valorie> oh gosh
[04:34] <valorie> just doing my part
[04:34] <valorie> and this is a great team
[04:34] <valorie> very friendly
[04:35] <ahoneybun> Yes it is but this room always seems dead when I get in here
[04:36] <ahoneybun> like I scared them lol
[04:36] <ahoneybun> I wish I could go to a Linux Fest
[04:36] <valorie> where do you live?
[04:36] <ahoneybun> Florida
[04:36] <ahoneybun> lol
[04:36] <valorie> this is a slack time in the channel indeed
[04:37] <valorie> the europeans and indians aren't here
[04:37] <valorie> also: Easter
[04:37] <ahoneybun> yea I think because of the time zone
[04:37] <valorie> there is the SE Linux fest
[04:37] <valorie> I hear it's great
[04:38] <ahoneybun> where is it at?
[04:39] <valorie> http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/
[04:39] <ahoneybun> NC
[04:39] <valorie> June 7-9, 2013 in Charlotte, NC at the Blake Hotel
[04:39] <valorie> so a drive
[04:39] <valorie> but worth it, I hear
[04:40] <valorie> some time when I start giving talks I'm gonna go
[04:40] <ahoneybun> Yea I would not drive lol
[04:40] <ahoneybun> I can't not that far anyway
[04:40] <ahoneybun> never even been to Orlando
[04:41] <ahoneybun> I want to find a spot in the Kubuntu team or small community
[04:41] <ahoneybun> something that I can give back
[04:44] <valorie> I've only been to orlando, for UDS
[04:44] <valorie> and visited with my friend at the river
[04:44] <valorie> which was paradise
[04:45] <valorie> look around in your town
[04:45] <ahoneybun> Yea I wanted to go to that one but I was with family in Plant City which was close
[04:45] <valorie> look at meetup.com and see if there is something interesting locally
[04:45] <ahoneybun> I know Linux Cafe has stuff going
[04:45] <valorie> like a hackathon, or anything
[04:45] <valorie> I get the not driving forever
[04:46] <valorie> but LFNW is a 3 hour drive for me
[04:46] <valorie> and it's totally worth it
[04:47] <ahoneybun> Planet Linux Cafe I mean
[04:47] <ahoneybun> Yea it would be more then 16 hours 
[04:47] <ahoneybun> for SELF
[04:49] <ahoneybun> I have the Documents for the 12.04 release I believe 
[04:49] <ahoneybun> I got the kubuntu-docs
[04:50] <ahoneybun> oh no for the 13.04 release
[04:51] <ahoneybun> I just need to find something that I can do or something I can learn
[04:51] <ahoneybun> right now I'm just seeding the 12.04.2 release and the first beta for 13.04
[04:53] <valorie> oh, my god
[04:53] <valorie> there is not end of things to learn
[04:53] <valorie> lol
[04:53] <ahoneybun> I know, just I need a starting point
[04:54] <valorie> you'll find it
[04:54] <valorie> milling around for awhile is fine
[04:54] <valorie> I did
[04:54] <valorie> most do
[04:56] <ahoneybun> Maybe just post something on meetup about Kubuntu, Linux and point out somethings to do
[04:56] <ahoneybun> I have done some bug reporting for Nuvola Player
[04:58] <valorie> well, reporting bugs and testing is a good place to start
[04:59] <valorie> fixing bugs if you can do it
[04:59] <valorie> checking out the docs and fixing those
[04:59] <valorie> checking out the wikis and websites and fixing what is out of date or wrong
[04:59] <valorie> submitting artwork
[04:59] <valorie> etc.
[04:59] <valorie> there is literally no end of ways to contribute
[05:02] <ahoneybun> I know just finding a starting point someone to guide
[05:04] <valorie> try a few things
[05:04] <valorie> you'll find your path
[05:04] <valorie> and guides will appear
[05:06] <valorie> making a beginning is magic
[05:07] <ahoneybun> yea 
[05:08] <ahoneybun> I have tried the Docs team, maybe that
[05:10] <ahoneybun> that has been no meetings for the Florida LoCo team
[05:12] <ahoneybun> Sorry I'm just going on and on
[05:13] <valorie> that's ok
[05:16] <ahoneybun> just trying to get somewhere
[05:17] <ahoneybun> just so you know I did vote for you
[05:18] <valorie> \o/
[05:18] <valorie> I didn't know voting had opened?
[05:18] <valorie> I should pay better attention
[05:20] <ahoneybun> oh
[05:21] <ahoneybun> well I emailed the digest oops
[05:26] <ahoneybun> well I'm going to get off for the morning lol
[09:49] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:36] <shadeslayer> hm
[11:36] <shadeslayer> no one uploaded 4.10.2?
[11:36] <shadeslayer> I'll do it then
[11:54] <shadeslayer> huh
[11:55] <shadeslayer> QtCreator depends on Qt5 stuff even though I don't want Qt5 stuff :(
[11:59] <shadeslayer> Mirv: would it make sense to make a qtcreator-qt4 package of sorts with Qt4 deps only?
[11:59] <shadeslayer> because preferably I'd like to not have Qt5 on my system
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:03] <yofel> shadeslayer: why would you not want to have qt5 on your system o.O?
[13:05] <yofel> shadeslayer: that's btw. pretty much impossible unless you double-build it
[13:08] <shadeslayer> well, I just want to make sure everything is build against Qt4 and using QtCreator doesn't introduce Qt5 things in my code 
[13:09] <yofel> ah. If setting the default to qt4 doesn't do that though that's a bug IMO
[13:10] <shadeslayer> I see
[13:11] <yofel> I mean, that's what qtchooser was invented for
[13:11] <shadeslayer> I don't think my code has built against Qt5, but I just want to be sure
[13:11] <yofel> check with ldd to be sure?
[13:11] <shadeslayer> yeah I probably will, but not right now
[13:12] <shadeslayer> [13:12] <shadeslayer> :(
[13:13] <yofel> someone probably uploaded to raring without committing
[13:14] <shadeslayer> 4:4.10.1-0ubuntu1b1
[13:14] <shadeslayer> yep
[13:14] <shadeslayer> pitti is to blame :p
[13:17] <shadeslayer> wtf
[13:17] <shadeslayer> IOError: ('http protocol error', 0, 'got a bad status line', None)
[13:17] <yofel> @_@
[13:18] <yofel> how does that happen - unless launchpad is broken again
[13:18] <yofel> add some exception handling and add the failing package to the manual list when that happens
[13:18] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/712310/
[13:21]  * yofel gone for a while
[13:21] <yofel> I'll help later with the updates, in the meanwhile I wish you good luck with launchpad :P
[13:22] <shadeslayer> heh
[13:22] <shadeslayer> I'm going for a haircut myself, will have a look what happened once I get back
[13:56] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1162216] touchscreen does not tap - sometimes @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1162216 (by foggydude)
[14:57] <phoenix_firebrd> Riddell: are you there?
[14:59] <shadeslayer> I have a sudden urge to buy a fedora
[14:59] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: evening
[14:59] <shadeslayer> hi phoenix_firebrd
[14:59] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: haircut done?
[14:59] <shadeslayer> yep
[15:00] <shadeslayer> hm, interesting, flipkart actually has a fedora
[15:00] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: why buy?
[15:00] <shadeslayer> huh?
[15:00] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: download, burn and donate?
[15:00] <shadeslayer> lol
[15:00] <shadeslayer> phoenix_firebrd: was talking about this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora
[15:00] <phoenix_firebrd> ha ha ha
[15:01] <phoenix_firebrd> now it has become so common i actually forgot that
[15:01] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: shaved ah?
[15:02] <shadeslayer> huh?
[15:02] <shadeslayer> yofel: I think Launchpad was having a moment of insanity
[15:02] <shadeslayer> yofel: script is working now
[15:02] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: bug something that will be cool for this summer
[15:03] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: I have a doubt,
[15:03] <shadeslayer> sure
[15:04] <shadeslayer> phoenix_firebrd: shoot
[15:04] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: you must be aware of the arm... real!=double thing, should i use an architecture ifdef or it doesn't matter for other architectures?
[15:05] <shadeslayer> you need to use qreal
[15:05] <shadeslayer> and then it ifdef's accordingly
[15:05] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: i know
[15:05] <shadeslayer> though you need to use it carefully
[15:05] <shadeslayer> for eg. you might be storing values in a db and that db might get copied between various architechtures
[15:05] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: so if i use qreal for double for amd64 for example is that ok?
[15:05] <shadeslayer> sigh, I can't spell architectures :/
[15:06] <shadeslayer> phoenix_firebrd: just use qreal
[15:06] <shadeslayer> did you read up on what qreal is
[15:06] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: so no need of ifdefs>
[15:06] <shadeslayer> like I said, have you read what QReal is
[15:06] <shadeslayer> qreal : Typedef for double on all platforms except for those using CPUs with ARM architectures. On ARM-based platforms, qreal is a typedef for float for performance reasons.
[15:07] <shadeslayer> so it'll equate to double on !arm
[15:07] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: haven't read the qt datatypes in detail 
[15:07] <shadeslayer> and on arm it'll be float
[15:07] <shadeslayer> you don't have to do anything
[15:07] <phoenix_firebrd> oh
[15:07] <shadeslayer> no ifdef's needed in your code
[15:07] <shadeslayer> just use qreal wherever you use double
[15:07] <phoenix_firebrd> ok
[15:08] <phoenix_firebrd> should i need to file an upstream bug report? or not readed?
[15:08] <phoenix_firebrd> *needed
[15:09] <shadeslayer> can you tell me exactly what you're trying to fix
[15:09] <phoenix_firebrd> i am sleepy
[15:09] <phoenix_firebrd> I am packaging nootka and there is an upstream bug
[15:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/712454/
[15:31]  * shadeslayer adds more error handling
[16:03] <ScottK> valorie: Voting isn't for a while.
[16:05] <ScottK> shadeslayer: We're in freeze for Beta 2, so now probably isn't the best time for landing it in the archive.
[16:05] <shadeslayer> ScottK: wasn't going to land it there anyway
[16:06] <shadeslayer> it's still embargoed
[16:06] <ScottK> OK
[16:06] <shadeslayer> so would be going into Ninjas like always
[16:06] <ScottK> You won't be able to when it's released next week either though.  I'll have to be after the beta on Thursday.
[16:06] <shadeslayer> fine with me
[16:07] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Did you get my ping about rekonq?
[16:07] <shadeslayer> yes
[16:07] <shadeslayer> I do not have an answer for you yet
[16:07] <ScottK> OK.
[16:09] <shadeslayer> it
[16:09] <shadeslayer> *it seems to be pretty outdated :S
[16:20] <murthy_> Riddell: I have updated my nootka branch with a patch fix arm ftbfs https://code.launchpad.net/~murthy/+junk/nootka
[16:20] <murthy_> Riddell: Haven't tested it yet
[16:21] <murthy_> good night everyone
[16:42] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Do you use your iMX for anything?
[17:15] <yofel> shadeslayer: that last error is interesting. But I don't quite get how it would even get there, as it clearly *did* branch bovo
[17:26] <yofel> shadeslayer: did you mess with the basedir value in any way? As with my code here, that error cannot happen at that point
[17:26] <yofel> only way would be for os.mkdir() to silently fail
[17:27] <yofel> bbl
[19:32] <yofel> hm
[19:32] <yofel> shadeslayer: were be me packages? ^^
[20:26] <ScottK> yofel: Careful.  You'll interrupt is beauty sleep.
[20:26] <ScottK> s/is/his/
[20:26] <kubotu> ScottK meant: "yofel: Careful.  You'll interrupt his beauty sleep."
[20:28] <yofel> ^^
[20:48] <yofel> anyone an idea how to debug those skype issues in raring? It breaks when you use a proprietary graphics driver (at least libGl from it) and qtwebkit 2.3. Stop using one of those and it works
[21:15] <valorie> I figured so, but thanks, ScottK