phillw1tweakster: for sudo, it's most likely to get faster response using #ubuntu-beginners00:00
tweaksterthanks, phillw100:01
phillw1tweakster: for what gets installed on the different ways to 'fine tune' lubuntu, the list of everything is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall00:01
phillw1tweakster: lubuntu still has synaptic package manager, which will tell you what it is going to install so as to support what you have just asked to be added, if that is your question.00:04
pvl1im confused. is lightdm just the log in manager00:17
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poeehi. how does lubuntu compare against ubuntu?04:14
poeeI ve been using ubuntu for over six years, and I have an old system 2gbram dualcore and i want it really fast04:14
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.04:16
holsteinpoee: try it live and see04:16
holsteinlubuntu *is* ubuntu (bascially).. same repository sources04:17
poeeand same apps?04:17
poeeI presume04:17
holsteinpoee: no04:17
poeenot out of the box, but installable04:17
holsteinpoee: mabye a few of the core applicaions04:17
holsteinsame kernel for example04:17
poeecan i install all the ubuntu apps on lubuntu?04:17
holsteinsure. kde ones too04:18
holsteinbut, the kde ones will pull in dependencies04:18
holsteinlxde is lighter.. is it faster? might seem faster..04:18
poeeI want something fast04:19
poeewhat about the space requirements04:19
holsteinpoee: well, your machine is as fast as it is04:20
holsteinpoee: will anything modern seem faster on that hardware than LXDE? not likely04:20
holsteintry it live.. i mean, puppy linux is faster, but there are trade offs04:20
holsteinlubuntu is ubuntu.. same backbone of support and repose.. puppy is different.. it is what it is, and is good at what its good at04:21
poeeis puppy linux debian based?04:21
holsteini dont use puppy as an everyday OS.. but, lubuntu is a nice balance.. its still a full os.. installable, and full featured.. but light04:21
holsteinpoee: puppy is puppy. there are different ones based on different things.. but you dont really "install" it04:22
holsteinpoee: try it live to..04:22
poeeokay well i guess its best to just download everything and try live04:22
holsteinyou could run xfce no issues with that hardware04:23
holsteinreally comes down to preference04:23
poeeI also want something that occupies less hdd space04:24
poeeI ve dual boot so my linux partition runs on 15 gb space04:24
poeethat has been one of my concerns04:25
holsteinpoee: if you are going to install all the apps you had, it'll likely take up the same amount of space04:25
holsteinhard drives are cheap these days04:25
poeeyeah I should just buy a new hdd04:25
holstein15gb's is plenty for most things04:25
poeei ve managed to keep it running okay04:26
poeebut overtime things just add up, you know04:26
poeeso yeah04:26
mysteriousdarreneven this old netbook has 60 gb hd and 40 is free.04:27
holsteinyeah, i have peppermintOS, which is a lubuntu spinoff, on a 16bg hard drive with no isues04:28
poeei have only 400mb free on my linux partition for over a year now04:28
holsteinits not cramped04:28
poeepeppermint related to linuxmint?04:28
holsteinright.. a few of the mint devs.. they live nearby04:29
poeeah. right.04:30
poeelinux mint is heavy though04:30
poeeso I dont want to go there04:30
poeeI ll just try and see xubuntu or lubuntu04:30
poeeon a livedisk04:30
holsteinwell, im not suggesting you do, but peppermint is not heavy04:30
poeehmm okay04:31
mysteriousdarren+1 lubuntu04:31
poeei ll hit lubuntu04:32
poeeI am more familiar with the ubuntu platform04:32
poeealthough if i thought of familiarity I d never have moved out of windows and into linux04:33
mysteriousdarrenits the community that got me hooked04:33
poeeah yes. the help on ubuntu irc is never a minute away04:33
poeewhich one is the LTS verion04:34
holsteinpoee: there is no lts for lubuntu04:34
holsteinpoee: though, the 12.04 repos will be maintained..kernel and all that for example04:35
holsteinnot lubuntu specifically.. the documentation is on the site04:35
poeeokay i ll check04:35
poeeI like lts versions04:35
holsteinif youare not happy with that, install ubuntu 12.04 minimal, and install lxde04:35
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD04:35
holsteinpoee: im using the 12.04 lts.. i run openbox and tint204:36
mysteriousdarrenive had great success with minimal to lxde04:36
poeethanks for this idea. I like the minimal more and more04:36
holsteinmysteriousdarren: you just add what you want? not the lubuntu-desktop metapackage?04:36
holsteini would add either lxde or the lubuntu-desktop metapackage04:36
poeewhat gui does the minimal have04:37
mysteriousdarrenholstein: you knw me, depends on the mood04:37
holsteinmysteriousdarren: :)04:38
holsteinpoee: none04:38
holsteinpoee: its minimal. you add what you want04:38
poeeohhh you gotta use sudoaptget?04:38
poeei mean apt04:38
holsteinpoee: you *get* to sudo apt-get what you like..04:38
mysteriousdarrenI love the choices04:38
poeeahhh okay04:39
poeetime to try , me thinks04:39
poeelubuntu-desktop or lxde?04:39
holsteinright.. whatever you want04:39
holsteinis lubuntu LTS? no04:39
holsteinwhat does that mean?04:39
holsteinno one from this team is going to support lubuntu after 18 monhts04:40
poeewhich package should i install,04:40
poeeoh why04:40
poeeits outdated?04:40
holsteinpoee: im giving you the facts, and you can decide04:40
holstein"should" is a matter of opinion04:40
poeeah right04:40
holstein*if* you want the 12.04 lts with lxde.. install that04:40
poeeso lubuntu is going to be outdated?04:40
holsteinif you want the lubuntu-desktop.. install that.. what does it mean that there is no lubuntu lts? no one from this team will be testing the lubuntu specific stuff04:41
holsteinpoee: it will be "no longer offically supported"04:41
poeeok :(04:41
poeehow about xfce04:41
holsteinpoee: "outdated" too, can be a matter of opinion04:41
poeewill it be supported04:41
holsteinpoee: lxde is in the repos04:41
holsteinpoee: to get 12.04 lts and lxde.. install that04:42
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels04:42
poeeI can always rip off lxde and get xfce if lxde runs out of support04:42
holsteinxubuntu follows the regular ubuntu scenario.. also, you can add only xfce there04:42
poeeI ve run multiple desktops before04:43
poeegnome + xfce04:43
holsteinpoee: lxde will not "run out of support".. the lubuntu team will no longer officially support lubuntu04:43
poeeah okay04:43
poeeokay i ll get minimal and work from there04:44
poeeumm holstein04:49
poeehow would i configure wifi on a minimal04:49
poeeI dont want to install minimal and get stuck on it04:50
holsteinpoee: you insatll a DE, and use a wifi manager04:52
holsteinpoee: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop for example04:52
poeebut to install DE you need a connection in the first place right04:53
poeeor is it in built04:53
wxlhail eris!05:04
poeeokay desktop is DE05:04
poeeokay i figured it out05:08
poeethanks all05:08
michkriHey. Does somebody know how to change keyboard layout per window or app and not globally?07:55
SixtyFoldWow, there's only 66 users in here08:45
lubuntu-questionhow big is a lubuntu installation?13:39
lubuntu-questioni would like to install it in 4gb13:41
lubuntu-questionbut the installer tells me, that i need 4.4 gb13:41
lubuntu-questionbut i read on the net, that it were just something above 2gb when installed13:41
SixtyFoldlubuntu-question - if you remind me the CLI for seeing how much diskspace i have used, i could tell you14:01
SixtyFold3.19 gb14:02
lubuntu-questionjea, that would fit nicely14:02
lubuntu-questionon 4gb14:02
SixtyFoldthat's with firefox and chromium installed, not that taking out FF would change that much14:02
SixtyFoldalso i install gcc and make14:02
lubuntu-questionwhy the hell does the installer stops the installation and tell that it need 4.4gb?14:02
lubuntu-questioni dont want swap14:03
SixtyFolddid you manually partition?14:03
lubuntu-questionno. the installer directly block. the device have just 4gb14:03
lubuntu-questionbecause there is nothing in the system with more then 4gb14:04
SixtyFoldyou should dl the mini installation of ubuntu14:04
SixtyFoldand pic the lubuntu option in it14:04
SixtyFoldand see if that will fit it14:04
SixtyFoldworth a try, have no clue if itll do it14:04
SixtyFoldyah, idk, total used, 3,192,776 / 16%14:07
lubuntu-questionSixtyFold: you mean this? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso14:15
lubuntu-questionthis can install lubuntu?14:15
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD14:15
holsteinlubuntu-question: the lubuntu packages are in the main ubuntu repositories.. you can install lubuntu or lxde from *any* *buntu14:15
lubuntu-questionholstein: this is the direct link from the page the bot posted -.-14:15
holsteinlubuntu-question: i would look and see that the image is the one you want14:16
holsteinlubuntu-question: the one you linked lookds like the 64bit minimal iso.. if thats what you want, thats what it is14:16
holsteinyou probably want the 32bit one14:16
lubuntu-questionis there anywhere the 13.04 beta1 64bit minimal iso? cant find it14:18
ubottuUbuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) will be the 18th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+114:18
lubuntu-questioni know what it is -.-14:19
lubuntu-questionthis are the listed: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14:20
holsteinlubuntu-question: then, join #ubuntu+1 to discuss is, as the link asks14:21
kilonuxhello . need help for flashplayer on 12.04 on ppc15:28
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Jonatas_ZVHi, can someone help me? I downloaded the Lubuntu .iso file, mounted this with Universal USB installer. I would like to run Lubuntu in live mode in my old PC (Windows XP), but when i reboot the system, nothing happens. Can someone help me?17:09
IdleOneyou need to set your BIOS to boot from USB probably.17:14
IdleOnethe setting could be named "Boot from USB" or "Boot from External Media" or some other variant.17:15
Jonatas_ZVok, so how can i do that? pressing f2 when the computer starts didn't work.17:18
gnuvinceI have a quick question: if I play a SNES game in an emulator with a gamepad, after 20 minutes, the screen shuts down.18:33
gnuvinceHow can I configure Lubuntu such that gamepad inputs keep the laptop alive?18:34
lxlewould like to edit the run command in the menu, anyone know the location?21:03
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holsteinlxle: ?22:10
Guest60685I've a problem with my wifi connection, can someone help me?22:48
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