[00:00] <ironhalik> regarding r0OOt :>
[00:04] <k1l> its actually just an advertising link, but you should not click on every link someone drops into the irc :)
[00:05] <bekks> It's a download link for some crap.
[00:05] <bekks> Takes about 6s after the ad appears, and a download window will open.
[00:07] <k1l> well, i didnt wait that long ;p
[02:54] <snadge> normal for the time/date applet to disappear? and is that app called indicator-datetime?
[02:55] <snadge> which depends on something called systemd-shim
[05:27] <phunyguy> Something happen with the 3.8.0_15 kernel image? lol... update manager failed to install it, then I ran an apt-get update, and apt-get install -f, it put _014 back where it was, and then didnt try to install _015 again, almost like it was pulled.
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:40] <c[_]> bug 1161599
[12:46] <c[_]> getting this error when trying to backup to ubuntu one with deja dup: Giving up on request after 5 attempts, last status 401 UNAUTHORIZED
[14:14] <SavageWolf> Uh, none of the 3.8.* kernels seem to work on my computer.
[14:16] <SavageWolf> They give a VFS not syncing panic thing...
[14:21] <lubuntu-question> hello
[14:21] <lubuntu-question> where could i get 13.04 netboot install?
[14:36] <SavageWolf> Can anyone give me any help on fixing kernel panics?
[14:50] <sary> SavageWolf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelDebuggingTricks http://askubuntu.com/questions/41930/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block0-0
[14:51] <SavageWolf> I tried update-initramfs, I think, and it gave no output...
[14:51] <SavageWolf> My /boot dir has only one initframfs thing in it, from an ancient kernel.
[14:53] <SavageWolf> (Or initrd file, rather)
[14:55] <SavageWolf> From what I gather, it cannot access the hard disk, and panics when it tries to get a listing of partitions to suggest because "sda6" is undefined, or some such.
[15:10] <sary> SavageWolf: do you recall the exact VFS panic error message! is it something like " VFS: Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block(X,X) ?
[15:20] <SavageWolf> Uh, it was unkown-block(0, 0) or some such.
[15:43] <SavageWolf> Sary, are you there?
[15:54] <sary> SavageWolf
[15:56] <SavageWolf> Uh, the error is about unknown-block(0, 0) or some such.
[15:58] <SavageWolf> "Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0, 0)".
[16:00] <SavageWolf> Running it in recovery mode shows that before that was it failing to mount the root fs, and the line above was "Here are the available options for mounting:" or some such.
[16:04] <SavageWolf> I'll reboot now.
[16:06] <peawormsworth> is there a way to allow applications to appear in the top "docker" area in unity?
[16:06] <peawormsworth> i have a package called "cryptkeeper" that I think only appears in the docker, but it doesnt appear in raring. How can i enable it?
[16:07] <bazhang> !find cryptkeeper
[16:07] <bazhang> !info cryptkeeper | peawormsworth
[16:08] <peawormsworth> bazhang: is this telling me that it is only available to appear in gnome and will not appear under unity wm?
[16:10] <SavageWolf> Ah, setting the mode from ACHI to ACI or whatever in the bios fixed it. Yay!
[16:10] <bazhang> peawormsworth, in unity shell and not gnome-shell? or the reverse
[16:18] <bazhang> !find remix
[16:19] <peawormsworth> bazhang: if u are asking me a question. I dont know how to answer it. I am running unity. cryptkeeper does not appear in the system tray. For 12.10, I was able to edit a stray-whitelist to allow the cryptkeeper icon to appear in the tray, but I dont see this option. I was wondering if there is a similar "trick" for getting unity to allow it to display on raring.
[16:20] <peawormsworth> !info nautilus-seahorse
[16:21] <peawormsworth> !info seahorse-nautilus
[16:26] <Halite> !info dropbox
[16:29] <SavageWolf> It's nautilus-dropbox.
[16:30] <Halite> !info nautilus-dropbox
[16:34] <peawormsworth> Halite: you can try dropbox from the package, but the actual version on dropbox site is 1.6.0. And that version is old 1.4.0. When you try to run it, dropbox will complain and make u download from dropbox anyways. And dropbox provides there own ubuntu .deb file anyways. You will have less trouble getting it directly from dropbox.com IMO.
[16:34] <Halite> peawormsworth, I downloaded it already from the site
[16:35] <peawormsworth> Halite: Im not sure if this is still true. But last time i used ubuntu package for dropbox... I had errors pop up and had to uninstall and just download and install directly from dropbox. I dont know why this ppa is not properly updated. It seems rather old.
[16:36] <peawormsworth> halite: maybe a good dropbox installation conflicts with ubuntu-one goals.
[17:54] <johnjohn1011> updating wifes machine from 12.10 to 13.04 wish me luck
[17:56] <alankila> couch.prepare()
[18:07] <johnjohn1011> are the new libreoffice 4.0 part of the newest release?
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> johnjohn1011, Check the live media and see if it is there already.
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> download the daily release, and make sure you want to do this it is in beta.
[18:19] <johnjohn1011> i'm upgrading now. I was going to look for instructions but will wait
[18:23] <penguin42> hmm, wth has KDEs monitor layout GUI gone?!
[18:24] <penguin42> it's still on my Arch KDE install - so it looks like an Ubuntuism
[19:35] <yofel> penguin42: krandr was replaced with kscreen
[19:35] <yofel> install kde-workspace-randr if you want the old UI
[19:36] <penguin42> yofel: Well, I'll take any UI at the moment
[19:36] <yofel> wait, there none at all o.O?
[19:36] <yofel> is kscreen installed?
[19:36] <penguin42> ah, it wasn't, now it is
[19:37] <yofel> uhm
[19:37] <penguin42> right, now I've got that I do have a GUI for it
[19:37] <yofel> is *should* have been installed at some point
[19:37] <penguin42> nope
[19:37] <yofel> kubuntu-desktop recommends it
[19:38] <Halite> peawormsworth, I downloaded it already from the site 99295cd9:f161d0f1
[19:38] <Halite> oops
[19:38] <penguin42> yofel: the display config page only had 'screen locker' earlier
[19:38] <yofel> right, that'll happen if none of the 2 is installed
[19:39] <penguin42> yofel: Which was a bit unfortunate enough to happen since I just bought a 2nd monitor :-)
[19:39] <yofel> it shouldn't have happened :S
[19:39] <yofel> I'll try to look at this tomorrow
[19:40] <penguin42> yofel: It'll be interesting when I upgrade my work machine to this after Raring goes stable; I often move it between monitors and run without external monitor, at the moment all by the magic of a script which I use
[19:41] <penguin42> yofel: It's not obvious from kscreen what the semantics are - e.g. will it remember that when I have this monitor plugged in I always want this monitor on the left?
[19:41] <penguin42> and this monitor always goes on the right?
[19:42] <yofel> it'll restore whatever was set last time the display was connected
[19:42] <penguin42>  'the display' can you clarify that?
[19:43] <yofel> not too much. I *think* it does remember what monitor was connected, but I use the same settings for all my external displays so I don't remember what it really does
[19:44] <penguin42> yofel: Nod, but for example when I use my work laptop at home it sits on the left of my monitor, but at my desk at work the external monitor is on the right
[19:46] <yofel> assumed as much, but I always configure it to be at the bottom to work around some kwin/X issues that annoy me
[19:46] <penguin42> ah right
[20:15] <SuperLag> So do the beta versions of Ubuntu run kernels with some kind of debugging going on? the reason I'm asking is because /var/log/kern.log is huge.
[20:15] <SuperLag> -rw-r----- 1 syslog adm 9.1G Mar 30 11:06 /var/log/kern.log
[20:16] <SuperLag> Is simply enabling log rotation the answer? or is there some underlying issue I should be concerned with?
[20:18] <k1l_> SuperLag: take a look at that log
[20:18] <k1l_> its 1,2MB for me. so there is a problem in your case
[20:22] <penguin42> 380KB here - and I can see I have log rotation - check that you have it
[20:22] <SuperLag> I don't see anything out of the ordinary... looks like dmesg output, pretty much. No errors or exceptions, so far.
[20:22] <SuperLag> Linux sandbox 3.8.0-15-generic #25-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 27 19:19:30 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:23] <k1l_> well, logrotation should be running by default
[20:23] <SuperLag> that's what I'm running
[20:23] <penguin42> SuperLag: Do you have a /var/log/kern.log.1.gz from the last week or so?
[20:24] <SuperLag> nope
[20:24] <SuperLag> other logs are rotating, just not that one
[20:24] <penguin42> ok, so your log rotation is broken
[20:24] <penguin42> SuperLag: If you do head /var/log/kern.log what's the date on the 1st entry?
[20:25] <SuperLag> March 25
[20:25] <penguin42> huh well that's ok, my rotation happened on the 24th - so the question is wth have you got 9GB of in that file
[20:25] <penguin42> somewhere in there you must have had something go nuts
[20:29] <SuperLag> On another note, I'm *amazed* at how well an SSD makes this older laptop perform. I knew it would, academically... but now that I have it installed, I can say it works from experience.
[20:31] <SuperLag> who
[20:32] <SuperLag> whoa
[20:32] <SuperLag> it was something on March 27
[20:32] <SuperLag> 6.6M entries in the log that day
[20:33] <penguin42> oh yeh SSDs make a BIG difference
[20:33] <SuperLag> wow... it's getting worse
[20:35] <SuperLag> penguin42: I figured the slower bus would make the difference neglible. This is a Latitude D630. I'm upgrading some things piece by piece. I got an 8GB kit of RAM, but one of the sticks is bad. So I'm working with 6GB until Amazon ships the replacement. I'm going to order a 802.11n adapter and replace the stock .11g adapter.
[20:36] <yofel> SuperLag: the bus only affects the max sequential data transfer speed. What SSD's excel in is random write/read IOPs, and that's what you notice most
[20:36] <itali-kun> hello I have a problem
[20:37] <itali-kun> with ubuntu 13.04, I can't boot with this kernel 3.8
[20:37] <itali-kun> and my intel hd4000
[20:37] <itali-kun> I only receive a black screen!
[20:37] <itali-kun> :(
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> itali-kun, This a daily, and can't boot means what?
[20:37] <itali-kun> means, that I can't join to unity, I don't have any tipe of colours on my display
[20:37] <itali-kun> ehehehe
[20:37] <SuperLag> k1l_: penguin42: http://pastie.org/7187202
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> itali-kun, You how to run nomodeset from the first gui asking for your options?
[20:38] <penguin42> SuperLag: grep for Mar 28 and pipe it through head and see what you get
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> know*
[20:38] <itali-kun> I don't know how to do that :(
[20:39] <itali-kun> and I don't have any gui, I only see the purple colors and later
[20:39] <itali-kun> black screen
[20:39] <itali-kun> I try to update my ubuntu 12.10 to kernel 3.8.5 too, and black screen too, I think is a bug of kernel 3.8 with intel hd4000
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> itali-kun, Are you using a dvd or a usb, and if a usb how was it loaded, and have you run a md5sum on the ISO/
[20:41] <itali-kun> I try usb and dvd!, the problem persist, I downloaded the iso every day, since the last sunday!
[20:41] <itali-kun> and I try every day, but nothing, :(
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> itali-kun, and if a usb how was it loaded, and have you run a md5sum on the ISO/
[20:41] <itali-kun> I try too, others distros with kernel 3.8, and no graphics
[20:41] <itali-kun> but if I use 3.7, all is ok
[20:41] <wilee-nilee>  have you run a md5sum on the ISO
[20:42] <itali-kun> yes!
[20:42] <itali-kun> I'm not a newbie
[20:42] <itali-kun> ehhehe
[20:42] <SuperLag> iwl3945 0000:0c:00.0: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch
[20:42] <SuperLag> a bunch of those
[20:42] <penguin42> zillions of them?
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> itali-kun, The honestly running 13.04 may be a strech, as well as loading kernels like this not in updates, they are not supported in these channels.
[20:43] <SuperLag> penguin42: yep
[20:43] <SuperLag> penguin42: which I did, in fact, do
[20:43] <penguin42> SuperLag: Fun, but if there are zillions of them then there is a bug somewhere
[20:43] <SuperLag> I turned off wifi at the hw switch, when I plugged it in
[20:43] <itali-kun> ok, BUT how can I  report bugs of kernel
[20:43] <itali-kun> xD? where?
[20:43] <penguin42> itali-kun: run ubuntu-bug linux
[20:43] <itali-kun> ok
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> itali-kun, Learning is great though, but you have to contemplate the limitations it makes in getting any help. ;)
[20:44] <penguin42> SuperLag: OK but that should give a handful of messages, not a few GB
[20:44] <itali-kun> yes
[20:44] <SuperLag> penguin42: can I > that log and have it start from 0? or will that hose stuff?
[20:45] <SuperLag> I know the file itself has to exist. Just wondering if I can make it start over, to recover some space.
[20:45] <penguin42> SuperLag: I *think* if you restart syslogd it might do something, if not then 0 it and then restart syslogd should do it
[20:46] <SuperLag> It seems odd that other logs would rotate, as expected, but not this one.
[20:46] <penguin42> SuperLag: It is doing, it's on once per week rotate
[20:47] <SuperLag> ah, okay
[20:48] <penguin42> see /etc/logrotate.conf
[20:54] <SuperLag> HAHA! *AWESOME*
[20:54] <SuperLag> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0ilMx7k7mso
[20:55] <SuperLag> sorry... definitely OT, but I hope you guys appreciate the humor
[20:55] <IdleOne> SuperLag: also it breaks the !language rule.
[20:56] <IdleOne> plz2be careful and stay on topic :)
[21:11] <DJones> mtp has certainly improved with 13.04, just had a shock seeing my Galaxy S3 connect & offer me folders for both the phone & the sd card
[21:13] <k1l_> with 13.04 mtp works as intended now
[21:14] <DJones> Thats certainly an understatement, I won't need Airdroid anymore now
[21:15] <k1l_> yeah, i used the samba share on my homeserver for my n4 all the time
[21:16] <johnjohn1011> woo hoo libreoffice 4.0 is part of 13.04!!
[21:17] <SuperLag> mtp?
[21:17] <k1l_> SuperLag: mtp is used for new android phones instead of that usbmode before
[21:18] <bazhang> !info gmtp
[21:18] <bazhang> lets you sync files of all kinds between ubuntu and android
[21:18] <SuperLag> ah... in spite of my being a Linux fan, I'm still a hard-core Apple guy, too :)
[21:19] <SuperLag> My MBP and iDevices are upstairs. :)
[21:19] <bazhang> sure
[21:20] <SuperLag> My employer started enforcing the "no personal laptops" policy... so I switched to Linux full time, on my work desktop.
[21:20] <bazhang> they are all just tools
[21:21] <SuperLag> Agreed. I just think the Windows tools are more obnoxious to use on a regular basis. So.... I'm a rebel. :)
[21:21] <SuperLag> thankfully, I work for a company that lets us do what we want with the hardware as long as the job gets done
[21:32] <bjsnider> SuperLag, this company is one-of-a-kind
[21:34] <penguin42> company I work for does let you use your own hardware, and has a few internal Linux distros we can use
[21:35] <penguin42> (including an Ubuntu mix)
[21:57] <SuperLag> any of you guys use Eclipse on Ubuntu?
[22:03] <k1l_> SuperLag: most times questions like that dont get answered. just ask a specific question
[22:03] <SuperLag> When I create a launcher for Eclipse, the icon is massive. I'm just curious to know if you've seen that, and found a fix.
[22:04] <SuperLag> the suggested fixes I've found so far, none have worked
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, and the icon is where? you want to resize it right?
[22:38] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: it shows up in the Applications Menu, under Development
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> I am not sure but you would have to hack that to size if that is your goal if it is a aesthetic issue
[22:40] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: when I first open up Development, the icon is the proper size. If I highlight Eclipse, even before I click on it, it gets really large
[22:40] <SuperLag> and it ends up drawing over the other icons on the Development menu
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, Whtas it look like in the unity panel
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> what's
[22:41] <SuperLag> No Unity here. I'm on Xubuntu.
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> ah
[22:41] <SuperLag> I ditched Ubuntu because of Unity causing issues with other things.
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> this xubuntu 13.04?
[22:42] <SuperLag> yup
[22:42] <SuperLag> same thing happens in 12.04 though
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> ah, well no idea here of a fix.
[22:58] <SuperLag> ah... I think it's because it's an XPM file
[22:59] <SuperLag> I found a PNG version, and the issue goes away
[23:33] <bjsnider> penguin42, what happens if you need support?
[23:37] <penguin42> bjsnider: The support is shit either way
[23:38] <penguin42> bjsnider: and then you lie as long as you can and pretend it's got a Windows install
[23:54] <bjsnider> penguin42, if you want support you must use winblows
[23:55] <penguin42> bjsnider: Theoretically we get support on RHEL as well
[23:55] <bjsnider> why theoretically -- does no one use it?
[23:56] <penguin42> bjsnider: It's normally easier to find a colleague who has hit the problem; if it's a hardware problem with the work laptop then I'd probably have to end up putting a RHEL image on