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ironhalikregarding r0OOt :>00:00
k1lits actually just an advertising link, but you should not click on every link someone drops into the irc :)00:04
bekksIt's a download link for some crap.00:05
bekksTakes about 6s after the ad appears, and a download window will open.00:05
k1lwell, i didnt wait that long ;p00:07
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snadgenormal for the time/date applet to disappear? and is that app called indicator-datetime?02:54
snadgewhich depends on something called systemd-shim02:55
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phunyguySomething happen with the 3.8.0_15 kernel image? lol... update manager failed to install it, then I ran an apt-get update, and apt-get install -f, it put _014 back where it was, and then didnt try to install _015 again, almost like it was pulled.05:27
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BluesKajHiyas all12:13
c[_]bug 116159912:40
ubottubug 1161599 in deja-dup (Ubuntu) "Backup to Ubuntu one failed, after 5 attempts status 400 bad request" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116159912:40
c[_]getting this error when trying to backup to ubuntu one with deja dup: Giving up on request after 5 attempts, last status 401 UNAUTHORIZED12:46
SavageWolfUh, none of the 3.8.* kernels seem to work on my computer.14:14
SavageWolfThey give a VFS not syncing panic thing...14:16
lubuntu-questionhello14:21
lubuntu-questionwhere could i get 13.04 netboot install?14:21
SavageWolfCan anyone give me any help on fixing kernel panics?14:36
sarySavageWolf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelDebuggingTricks http://askubuntu.com/questions/41930/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block0-014:50
SavageWolfI tried update-initramfs, I think, and it gave no output...14:51
SavageWolfMy /boot dir has only one initframfs thing in it, from an ancient kernel.14:51
SavageWolf(Or initrd file, rather)14:53
SavageWolfFrom what I gather, it cannot access the hard disk, and panics when it tries to get a listing of partitions to suggest because "sda6" is undefined, or some such.14:55
sarySavageWolf: do you recall the exact VFS panic error message! is it something like " VFS: Cannot open root device "sda3" or unknown-block(X,X) ?15:10
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SavageWolfUh, it was unkown-block(0, 0) or some such.15:20
SavageWolfSary, are you there?15:43
sarySavageWolf15:54
SavageWolfUh, the error is about unknown-block(0, 0) or some such.15:56
SavageWolf"Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0, 0)".15:58
SavageWolfRunning it in recovery mode shows that before that was it failing to mount the root fs, and the line above was "Here are the available options for mounting:" or some such.16:00
SavageWolfI'll reboot now.16:04
peawormsworthis there a way to allow applications to appear in the top "docker" area in unity?16:06
peawormsworthi have a package called "cryptkeeper" that I think only appears in the docker, but it doesnt appear in raring. How can i enable it?16:06
bazhang!find cryptkeeper16:07
ubottuFound: cryptkeeper16:07
bazhang!info cryptkeeper | peawormsworth16:07
ubottupeawormsworth: cryptkeeper (source: cryptkeeper): EncFS system tray applet for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.5-5.1 (raring), package size 47 kB, installed size 268 kB (Only available for linux-any; kfreebsd-any)16:07
peawormsworthbazhang: is this telling me that it is only available to appear in gnome and will not appear under unity wm?16:08
SavageWolfAh, setting the mode from ACHI to ACI or whatever in the bios fixed it. Yay!16:10
bazhangpeawormsworth, in unity shell and not gnome-shell? or the reverse16:10
bazhang!find remix16:18
ubottuFile remix found in bubbros, openclipart2-png, openclipart2-svg, projectm-data16:18
peawormsworthbazhang: if u are asking me a question. I dont know how to answer it. I am running unity. cryptkeeper does not appear in the system tray. For 12.10, I was able to edit a stray-whitelist to allow the cryptkeeper icon to appear in the tray, but I dont see this option. I was wondering if there is a similar "trick" for getting unity to allow it to display on raring.16:19
peawormsworth!info nautilus-seahorse16:20
ubottuPackage nautilus-seahorse does not exist in raring16:20
peawormsworth!info seahorse-nautilus16:21
ubottuseahorse-nautilus (source: seahorse-nautilus): seahorse plugins and utilities for encryption in GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.7.5-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 129 kB, installed size 1478 kB16:21
Halite!info dropbox16:26
ubottuPackage dropbox does not exist in raring16:26
SavageWolfIt's nautilus-dropbox.16:29
Halite!info nautilus-dropbox16:30
ubottunautilus-dropbox (source: nautilus-dropbox): Dropbox integration for Nautilus. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.4.0-3 (raring), package size 93 kB, installed size 366 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)16:30
peawormsworthHalite: you can try dropbox from the package, but the actual version on dropbox site is 1.6.0. And that version is old 1.4.0. When you try to run it, dropbox will complain and make u download from dropbox anyways. And dropbox provides there own ubuntu .deb file anyways. You will have less trouble getting it directly from dropbox.com IMO.16:34
Halitepeawormsworth, I downloaded it already from the site16:34
peawormsworthHalite: Im not sure if this is still true. But last time i used ubuntu package for dropbox... I had errors pop up and had to uninstall and just download and install directly from dropbox. I dont know why this ppa is not properly updated. It seems rather old.16:35
peawormsworthhalite: maybe a good dropbox installation conflicts with ubuntu-one goals.16:36
johnjohn1011updating wifes machine from 12.10 to 13.04 wish me luck17:54
alankilacouch.prepare()17:56
johnjohn1011are the new libreoffice 4.0 part of the newest release?18:07
wilee-nileejohnjohn1011, Check the live media and see if it is there already.18:17
wilee-nileedownload the daily release, and make sure you want to do this it is in beta.18:18
johnjohn1011i'm upgrading now. I was going to look for instructions but will wait18:19
penguin42hmm, wth has KDEs monitor layout GUI gone?!18:23
penguin42it's still on my Arch KDE install - so it looks like an Ubuntuism18:24
yofelpenguin42: krandr was replaced with kscreen19:35
yofelinstall kde-workspace-randr if you want the old UI19:35
penguin42yofel: Well, I'll take any UI at the moment19:36
yofelwait, there none at all o.O?19:36
yofelis kscreen installed?19:36
penguin42ah, it wasn't, now it is19:36
yofeluhm19:37
penguin42right, now I've got that I do have a GUI for it19:37
yofelis *should* have been installed at some point19:37
penguin42nope19:37
yofelkubuntu-desktop recommends it19:37
Halitepeawormsworth, I downloaded it already from the site 99295cd9:f161d0f119:38
Haliteoops19:38
penguin42yofel: the display config page only had 'screen locker' earlier19:38
yofelright, that'll happen if none of the 2 is installed19:38
penguin42yofel: Which was a bit unfortunate enough to happen since I just bought a 2nd monitor :-)19:39
yofelit shouldn't have happened :S19:39
yofelI'll try to look at this tomorrow19:39
penguin42yofel: It'll be interesting when I upgrade my work machine to this after Raring goes stable; I often move it between monitors and run without external monitor, at the moment all by the magic of a script which I use19:40
penguin42yofel: It's not obvious from kscreen what the semantics are - e.g. will it remember that when I have this monitor plugged in I always want this monitor on the left?19:41
penguin42and this monitor always goes on the right?19:41
yofelit'll restore whatever was set last time the display was connected19:42
penguin42 'the display' can you clarify that?19:42
yofelnot too much. I *think* it does remember what monitor was connected, but I use the same settings for all my external displays so I don't remember what it really does19:43
penguin42yofel: Nod, but for example when I use my work laptop at home it sits on the left of my monitor, but at my desk at work the external monitor is on the right19:44
yofelassumed as much, but I always configure it to be at the bottom to work around some kwin/X issues that annoy me19:46
penguin42ah right19:46
SuperLagSo do the beta versions of Ubuntu run kernels with some kind of debugging going on? the reason I'm asking is because /var/log/kern.log is huge.20:15
SuperLag-rw-r----- 1 syslog adm 9.1G Mar 30 11:06 /var/log/kern.log20:15
SuperLagIs simply enabling log rotation the answer? or is there some underlying issue I should be concerned with?20:16
k1l_SuperLag: take a look at that log20:18
k1l_its 1,2MB for me. so there is a problem in your case20:18
penguin42380KB here - and I can see I have log rotation - check that you have it20:22
SuperLagI don't see anything out of the ordinary... looks like dmesg output, pretty much. No errors or exceptions, so far.20:22
SuperLagLinux sandbox 3.8.0-15-generic #25-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 27 19:19:30 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux20:22
k1l_well, logrotation should be running by default20:23
SuperLagthat's what I'm running20:23
penguin42SuperLag: Do you have a /var/log/kern.log.1.gz from the last week or so?20:23
SuperLagnope20:24
SuperLagother logs are rotating, just not that one20:24
penguin42ok, so your log rotation is broken20:24
penguin42SuperLag: If you do head /var/log/kern.log what's the date on the 1st entry?20:24
SuperLagMarch 2520:25
penguin42huh well that's ok, my rotation happened on the 24th - so the question is wth have you got 9GB of in that file20:25
penguin42somewhere in there you must have had something go nuts20:25
SuperLagOn another note, I'm *amazed* at how well an SSD makes this older laptop perform. I knew it would, academically... but now that I have it installed, I can say it works from experience.20:29
SuperLagwho20:31
SuperLagwhoa20:32
SuperLagit was something on March 2720:32
SuperLag6.6M entries in the log that day20:32
penguin42oh yeh SSDs make a BIG difference20:33
SuperLagwow... it's getting worse20:33
SuperLagpenguin42: I figured the slower bus would make the difference neglible. This is a Latitude D630. I'm upgrading some things piece by piece. I got an 8GB kit of RAM, but one of the sticks is bad. So I'm working with 6GB until Amazon ships the replacement. I'm going to order a 802.11n adapter and replace the stock .11g adapter.20:35
yofelSuperLag: the bus only affects the max sequential data transfer speed. What SSD's excel in is random write/read IOPs, and that's what you notice most20:36
itali-kunhello I have a problem20:36
itali-kunwith ubuntu 13.04, I can't boot with this kernel 3.820:37
itali-kunand my intel hd400020:37
itali-kunI only receive a black screen!20:37
itali-kun:(20:37
wilee-nileeitali-kun, This a daily, and can't boot means what?20:37
itali-kunmeans, that I can't join to unity, I don't have any tipe of colours on my display20:37
itali-kunehehehe20:37
SuperLagk1l_: penguin42: http://pastie.org/718720220:37
wilee-nileeitali-kun, You how to run nomodeset from the first gui asking for your options?20:38
penguin42SuperLag: grep for Mar 28 and pipe it through head and see what you get20:38
wilee-nileeknow*20:38
itali-kunI don't know how to do that :(20:38
itali-kunand I don't have any gui, I only see the purple colors and later20:39
itali-kunblack screen20:39
itali-kunI try to update my ubuntu 12.10 to kernel 3.8.5 too, and black screen too, I think is a bug of kernel 3.8 with intel hd400020:39
wilee-nileeitali-kun, Are you using a dvd or a usb, and if a usb how was it loaded, and have you run a md5sum on the ISO/20:39
itali-kunI try usb and dvd!, the problem persist, I downloaded the iso every day, since the last sunday!20:41
itali-kunand I try every day, but nothing, :(20:41
wilee-nileeitali-kun, and if a usb how was it loaded, and have you run a md5sum on the ISO/20:41
itali-kunI try too, others distros with kernel 3.8, and no graphics20:41
itali-kunbut if I use 3.7, all is ok20:41
wilee-nilee have you run a md5sum on the ISO20:41
itali-kunyes!20:42
itali-kunI'm not a newbie20:42
itali-kunehhehe20:42
SuperLagiwl3945 0000:0c:00.0: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch20:42
SuperLaga bunch of those20:42
penguin42zillions of them?20:42
wilee-nileeitali-kun, The honestly running 13.04 may be a strech, as well as loading kernels like this not in updates, they are not supported in these channels.20:43
SuperLagpenguin42: yep20:43
SuperLagpenguin42: which I did, in fact, do20:43
penguin42SuperLag: Fun, but if there are zillions of them then there is a bug somewhere20:43
SuperLagI turned off wifi at the hw switch, when I plugged it in20:43
itali-kunok, BUT how can I  report bugs of kernel20:43
itali-kunxD? where?20:43
penguin42itali-kun: run ubuntu-bug linux20:43
itali-kunok20:43
wilee-nileeitali-kun, Learning is great though, but you have to contemplate the limitations it makes in getting any help. ;)20:44
penguin42SuperLag: OK but that should give a handful of messages, not a few GB20:44
itali-kunyes20:44
SuperLagpenguin42: can I > that log and have it start from 0? or will that hose stuff?20:44
SuperLagI know the file itself has to exist. Just wondering if I can make it start over, to recover some space.20:45
penguin42SuperLag: I *think* if you restart syslogd it might do something, if not then 0 it and then restart syslogd should do it20:45
SuperLagIt seems odd that other logs would rotate, as expected, but not this one.20:46
penguin42SuperLag: It is doing, it's on once per week rotate20:46
SuperLagah, okay20:47
penguin42see /etc/logrotate.conf20:48
SuperLagHAHA! *AWESOME*20:54
SuperLaghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0ilMx7k7mso20:54
SuperLagsorry... definitely OT, but I hope you guys appreciate the humor20:55
IdleOneSuperLag: also it breaks the !language rule.20:55
IdleOneplz2be careful and stay on topic :)20:56
DJonesmtp has certainly improved with 13.04, just had a shock seeing my Galaxy S3 connect & offer me folders for both the phone & the sd card21:11
k1l_with 13.04 mtp works as intended now21:13
DJonesThats certainly an understatement, I won't need Airdroid anymore now21:14
k1l_yeah, i used the samba share on my homeserver for my n4 all the time21:15
johnjohn1011woo hoo libreoffice 4.0 is part of 13.04!!21:16
SuperLagmtp?21:17
k1l_SuperLag: mtp is used for new android phones instead of that usbmode before21:17
bazhang!info gmtp21:18
ubottugmtp (source: gmtp): simple MP3 player client for MTP based devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1 (raring), package size 121 kB, installed size 402 kB21:18
bazhanglets you sync files of all kinds between ubuntu and android21:18
SuperLagah... in spite of my being a Linux fan, I'm still a hard-core Apple guy, too :)21:18
SuperLagMy MBP and iDevices are upstairs. :)21:19
bazhangsure21:19
SuperLagMy employer started enforcing the "no personal laptops" policy... so I switched to Linux full time, on my work desktop.21:20
bazhangthey are all just tools21:20
SuperLagAgreed. I just think the Windows tools are more obnoxious to use on a regular basis. So.... I'm a rebel. :)21:21
SuperLagthankfully, I work for a company that lets us do what we want with the hardware as long as the job gets done21:21
bjsniderSuperLag, this company is one-of-a-kind21:32
penguin42company I work for does let you use your own hardware, and has a few internal Linux distros we can use21:34
penguin42(including an Ubuntu mix)21:35
SuperLagany of you guys use Eclipse on Ubuntu?21:57
k1l_SuperLag: most times questions like that dont get answered. just ask a specific question22:03
SuperLagWhen I create a launcher for Eclipse, the icon is massive. I'm just curious to know if you've seen that, and found a fix.22:03
SuperLagthe suggested fixes I've found so far, none have worked22:04
wilee-nileeSuperLag, and the icon is where? you want to resize it right?22:05
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SuperLagwilee-nilee: it shows up in the Applications Menu, under Development22:38
wilee-nileeI am not sure but you would have to hack that to size if that is your goal if it is a aesthetic issue22:40
SuperLagwilee-nilee: when I first open up Development, the icon is the proper size. If I highlight Eclipse, even before I click on it, it gets really large22:40
SuperLagand it ends up drawing over the other icons on the Development menu22:40
wilee-nileeSuperLag, Whtas it look like in the unity panel22:41
wilee-nileewhat's22:41
SuperLagNo Unity here. I'm on Xubuntu.22:41
wilee-nileeah22:41
SuperLagI ditched Ubuntu because of Unity causing issues with other things.22:41
wilee-nileethis xubuntu 13.04?22:42
SuperLagyup22:42
SuperLagsame thing happens in 12.04 though22:42
wilee-nileeah, well no idea here of a fix.22:42
SuperLagah... I think it's because it's an XPM file22:58
SuperLagI found a PNG version, and the issue goes away22:59
bjsniderpenguin42, what happens if you need support?23:33
penguin42bjsnider: The support is shit either way23:37
penguin42bjsnider: and then you lie as long as you can and pretend it's got a Windows install23:38
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bjsniderpenguin42, if you want support you must use winblows23:54
penguin42bjsnider: Theoretically we get support on RHEL as well23:55
bjsniderwhy theoretically -- does no one use it?23:55
penguin42bjsnider: It's normally easier to find a colleague who has hit the problem; if it's a hardware problem with the work laptop then I'd probably have to end up putting a RHEL image on23:56

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