[00:00] need to fix my wellie boot [00:00] im mending stuff everywhere atm [00:00] i use milliput for repairing connectors mostly [00:01] or casings [00:02] now listening to uss enterise warp drives noise [00:02] http://bruxy.regnet.cz/web/linux/EN/bash-nyan-cat cute [00:02] wifey will be pleased [00:03] yeah, i commented the nyan music first [00:03] i should make teletext version [00:03] i use clementine with nyan on the EQ moodbar thing [00:03] just to get karma [00:05] in fact this may work unmodified [00:10] the guy who made nyan cat looks like joey from omg twin bro [00:10] http://popgoestheweek.com/2011/04/pop-profile-the-brains-behind-the-viral-phenomenon-nyan-cat/ [00:13] youtubing on chrome was making my fan spin, so... [00:13] /usr/bin/play -n -c1 synth whitenoise lowpass -1 120 lowpass -1 120 lowpass -1 120 gain +14 [00:14] no need for the engine hum video now! [00:19] http://hujackus.altervista.org/uploads/ConwayMatrix.swf [00:21] whatever happened to novacut? [00:22] still under development [00:22] havent heard in ages [00:23] they post videos and screenshots on G+ now and then [00:23] https://launchpad.net/~novacut/+archive/stable?field.series_filter=raring [00:23] stable release yesterday [00:24] openshot already got 18k$ [00:26] play synth has type "brownnoise" [00:26] i'm pretty sure that's not a real type of noise [00:26] dont want to click [00:26] is it a fart? [00:29] apparently it's brownian noise [00:34] after watching skyfall i want one of these http://www.airfix.com/airfix-products/aircraft/helicopters/a14101-agustawestland-merlin-hc3-148-a14101/ [00:36] you'll never fit in there :/ [00:36] its quite a big kit.. [00:37] http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=409&t=37430 [00:37] so much detail. [00:37] Does anyone know of a reliable IRC chanel in use re South Korea? Sounds like it's all kicking off.. === slvr_ is now known as slvr [00:38] alexcockell: _south_ korea? [00:40] twitter? [00:40] North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un has ordered missile units to prepare to strike US mainland as a British tour operator was warned that the "outbreak of war probably only hours away" [00:41] Popey - yep [00:42] fun times [00:44] "fun" [00:44] NK have declared war on SK and USA. [00:44] Went to "state of war" a few minutes ago... on BBC and Reuters.. [00:46] http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/30/us-korea-north-war-idUSBRE92T00020130330 [00:47] only 1 more hour of sitting perfectly still to placate baby. need a drink...cant move [00:47] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVie_sWCGig meanwhile is fun [00:47] i cant see NK doing anything substantial [00:47] sounds like political posturing [00:48] BBC4 airing Disco at the BBC... [00:52] why are you all still awake? [00:53] think i might make home made pizza with the kids tomorrow [00:53] made playdough yesterday \o/ [00:56] heh, wifey used to do that [00:58] i'm making annoying noises with play [00:59] lol sorry bout that [00:59] Mungbean - Always up late on BBC4 - their music programming and all that... [00:59] i spent ages 8-16 making annoying noises on my home vomputers [00:59] argh typing with 1 finger [01:02] hmm theres 4 pages missing from the middle of this book. this is why i stoppfd going to library. snd the fact that they never have books u need, and they are sticky.. [01:12] lol === diddleda_ is now known as diddledan [07:52] morning [07:52] popey: \0 [07:53] popey: oh btw, re: my questions the other day - my nexus 10 dispatched \0/ [07:54] huzzah [08:06] anyone's software updater getting stuck here? Preparing to replace linux-image-3.8.0-15-generic 3.8.0-15.25 (using .../linux-image-3.8.0-15-generic_3.8.0-15.25_amd64.deb) ... [08:09] yes [08:10] known bug [08:10] kill it then do "sudo dpkg --configure -a" then "sudo apt-get -f install" [08:10] khaaaan! [08:11] thanks :) [08:17] it worked \o/ [08:20] of course ☺ [08:20] ... yes [08:48] hello all === MooDoo_ is now known as MooDoo [08:51] how is everyone today? [09:13] http://imgur.com/gallery/UFx8IzG like that [09:14] hehe [09:15] lol :) shame I'm at work lol [09:56] Is it possible for me to send a link to somebody via email so when they click it, it will open a folder on their computer? [09:57] not seen that done before [09:57] I think file:///home/user/ may work [09:58] Only issue is that it's likely to open in their browser, not file manager [09:58] it'd open it in the web browser, but sure [09:58] yeah, i assumed you wanted it in file manager [09:58] ideally I would [09:58] No idea how that would work tho [09:58] There are apt urls tho [10:54] good morning everyone, [10:54] hello brobostigon [10:55] hello MooDoo [10:58] 18:15, bbc1, new Dr Who. [11:00] brobostigon: i'm ready for it, hopefully I'll get home from work in time :D [11:01] :) [11:01] or it will be, iplayer to the rescue, [11:02] lol sky+ :) [11:02] that works. :) [11:10] Is there a way to get apt-get dump to only dump package names, not descriptions and dependencies, etc ? [11:13] apt-get dump? I've never come across that [11:14] kvarley: what do you want to accomplish [11:15] won't something like this work? Although never tried it dpkg --get-selections > installed-software [11:15] BigRedS: Dumps the package lists [11:15] MooDoo: I want to get packages I haven't installed :) [11:16] MartijnVdS: I want to output a list of all the packages in the repositories [11:16] MartijnVdS: Just the package names, no other info [11:16] At the moment I'm using apt-get dump and regex [11:16] kvarley: why do you want to do that? [11:17] !xyproblem [11:17] wwo that'll be a big list [11:17] !xy [11:17] The XY problem is when you need to do X, and you think you can use Y to do X, so you ask about how to do Y, when what you really should do is state what your X problem is. There may be a Z solution that is even better than Y, but nobody can suggest it if X is never mentioned. [11:18] MartijnVdS: To replicate the package databases for use in another project [11:19] kvarley: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/23045/how-to-list-currently-not-installed-packages [11:19] MooDoo: Thanks :) [11:21] What's the deal with using commands listed on AskUbuntu in projects? Are they licensed? [11:22] you can't license a command if it's available in the is [11:22] os [11:22] MooDoo: I mean, if I take the command listed on that askubuntu page and use it in a project. What do I have to do? Attribution? [11:23] Ah [11:23] Attribution require [11:23] I would of said nothing, if the command they are using is available any way, then you don't need to do anything [11:23] kvarley: you could of figured out the command yourself any way [11:23] I'll include attribution all the same, can't hurt [11:24] ok [11:24] Thanks MooDoo [11:24] yw! === ross is now known as Guest47041 === Guest47041 is now known as SavageWolf [14:01] It's oh so quiet shhhhhh shhhhhh [14:05] What do you think about the OpenShot kickstarter? [14:07] not seen it [14:09] Uh, anyone know what the channel for getting help about Ubuntu 13.04 is, or where there is a list of Ubuntu based channels? [14:10] isn't #ubuntu one? [14:11] I'd assume there'd be a separate one for alpha/beta releases. [14:11] http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/chat [14:11] Have they actually decided what to do with 13.04 yet, anyway? [14:11] SavageWolf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [14:13] Ah, #ubuntu+1, it seems. [14:16] :) [14:31] wow did I really create my launchpad account in 2006? blimey [14:32] * SuperEngineer plans evening... Dr. Who - followed by [turn off lights & plug in headphones] Amnesia, The Dark Descent [14:33] [aka "The Dark Descent" .... into madness!] [14:35] not played that yet [14:35] might give it a go [14:36] it's cheap on steam at the moment.... tried it last night - verdict: it's good [14:36] I just downloaded a game on steam, seems strange running it on ubuntu :) [14:37] I keep buying games that work only on Windows, but can never be bothered restarting to run them. [14:37] Or firing up POL, or anything like that. [14:41] SavageWolf: does the new bioshock work in ubuntu? [14:41] I don't play Bioshock, so I'm not sure. [14:42] MooDoo: if you have Steam - it will tell you in the games description [14:42] in the system reuirements section [14:43] *requirements [14:44] SuperEngineer: ok thanks :D [14:57] \o/ [14:57] * popey is making pizza dough, flapjack and home made butter with the kids [14:58] popey: and then tonight.. The Doctor! [14:59] Oh, is Doctor Who on tonight? [14:59] new series starts tonight [14:59] SavageWolf: I think you can safely assume.... YEES [15:00] [& hi MartijnVdS] [15:00] \o SuperEngineer [15:00] Ooh, I did not know the dates and such. I should set the recorder thing for it. [15:00] * MartijnVdS has a proper (tiny tiny) photo studio now [15:00] with light boxes and everything [15:02] * SuperEngineer hunts for a "tiny tiny" to send MartijnVdS to photograph ;) [15:03] SavageWolf: BBC1, 18.15 [15:06] MartijnVdS: photo studio? [15:07] MartijnVdS: I just purchased a lastolite backdrop :) === ross_ is now known as SavageWolf [15:19] MooDoo: I just purchased 2 "box" flashes :) [15:20] going to spend tonight taking pics of my brothers' new beer bottles :) [15:21] MartijnVdS: It's my birthday in april i'm hoping to get a westcott softbox for my speedlight :D [15:35] Dear Unity [15:35] Why don't you auto-raise when I configure you to auto-raise? [15:35] also, why do you reset that setting every time I log in? [15:43] Dear Nautilus 3.6: I hate you. [16:25] any suggestions for a html gui for monitoring hostapd ? [16:25] will nagios do it? [16:26] good question, but i was initally thinking of something simpler. === daubers_ is now known as daubers [17:03] Afternoon [17:07] howdy daubers [18:01] * daubers waits for things to upload to github [18:10] Yay, David Tennant & Billie Piper to return to Dr Who for the 50th anniversary special [18:11] :) [18:14] DW-60 [18:14] It's Dr. Who time right now folks [18:15] * popey goes offline till he's watched it [18:16] :) [18:18] * AlanBell needs to change wifi SSID [18:19] lol [18:47] anyway i can make ubuntu 12.10 look like ubuntu 10.04 anyone help [18:49] darrell09thomas: in what way? [18:49] layout and theme [18:50] oh, you probably want gnome panel then [18:51] !notunity [18:51] Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. [18:51] gnome shell is pretty cool [18:51] installed gnome panel still the same unless im doing some thing wrong [18:51] you have to choose it in the lightdm login screen [18:51] ok thanks [18:52] unity works OK too if you get used to it [18:53] how do i get lightdm login screen up [18:53] log out ;) [19:00] still cant change layout and theme after installing gnome [19:01] ive got ubuntu 12.01 installed and want to change the layout and theme to the way ubuntu 10.04 lokks and runs [19:01] did you choose gnome fallback on the login screen? [19:01] gnome classic I think [19:01] there aint no option to change gnome fallback [19:02] what do you have in the session chooser thing? [19:02] nothing just my login name and password or remote login or guess login [19:03] Doctor Who++ [19:03] theres no session chooser [19:03] MartijnVdS: nice chamber redesign, :) [19:04] darrell09thomas: ubuntu logo next to your name on the lightdm screen [19:04] it is a clickable button [19:05] Ugh, I like chocolate and chilli, but not together http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-21981063 [19:05] no ubuntu logo on login session [19:06] might be a cog thing on 12.10, if you are in the password box and hit tab it should move focus to it [19:06] ill try again be back in 2 mins cant i do the login screen change from 12.10 like you could in ubuntu 10.04 in settings administator then login screen this ubuntu 12.10 nothing like ubuntu 10.04 [19:07] http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm [19:08] yeah, unity is quite different from 2 panel gnome [19:08] once you choose your desktop environment it should remember it [19:09] right changed the login screen to gnome classic logged in and all i got on the top panel isapplications places thats it no setting and that ]# [19:10] yeah, it isn't as configurable as the old gnome panel was [19:11] it is getting better though, but all the effort is going into unity and gnome-shell [19:12] thanks AlanBell for your help cheers m8 [19:20] if you lock the screen in a guest session how do you unlock it? [19:21] !bug 1063711 [19:21] bug 1022858 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1063711 Guest session asks for password when switch back to it" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1022858 [19:22] huh [19:22] so suspend/resume from a guest session is broken [19:22] which is what I actually did [19:22] Looks like a 9 month old big though [19:22] s/big/bug/ [19:24] Bug 951000 [19:24] bug 951000 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "disable guest session screen lock using gsettings" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/951000 [19:26] well that is completely broken then isn't it [19:28] evening all [19:28] \o [19:28] popey: not watching The Voice then? :) [19:34] MartijnVdS: i have a child-unit leaning up against me watching it [19:43] will normalish shops be open tmrw afternoon. ? [19:44] no [19:44] ok. thank you popey [19:44] how about monday? [19:44] yes [19:44] good. [19:45] pubs will be open tmrw though? [19:48] no idea [19:50] ok. [20:28] Good evening peeps :) [20:28] evening bigcalm :) [20:30] AlanBell: ping [20:30] Hi brobostigon [20:33] yo [20:33] Howdy popey [20:34] evening bigcalm [20:34] How does one organise an ubuntu-uk event around here? [20:34] Aha :) [20:34] * AlanBell has been putting up bookshelves [20:35] * AlanBell wonders if they will stay up when books get put on them [20:35] AlanBell: how stereotypically mannish [20:35] yeah, got my man badge [20:35] and bought a new drill for the occasion too [20:35] * bigcalm feels an impromptu #ubuntu-uk-meeting might be in order [20:35] power tools \o/ [20:36] Haha, more power! [20:36] so, events, what did you have in mind? [20:36] we do need to talk about the 13.04 launch, such as it is [20:37] AlanBell: did you see my tweet from earlier today? [20:38] RAT \o/ [20:38] in me kitchen [20:39] AlanBell: it happens that I'm getting married later this year. You might have heard. And people tend to have a wee party for such things before the event. I thought a good place to have one would be on the RAT. Then I thought, why not make it into an ubuntu-uk outing? [20:40] This sounds like an excellent plan. [20:40] Looking at the 2 dates in September [20:40] popey: glad you agree :) [20:40] #action bigcalm do everything [20:40] #endmeeting [20:40] Ha! [20:41] Is it normal to organise ones own stag do? [20:41] i had 3 [20:41] o.O [20:42] excellent idea [20:42] Link for lazies: http://www.watercressline.co.uk/product.php/10/real-ale-train-r-a-t/cf8160dadf2141514c9ecaf9824d3aca [20:43] 14th or 21st [20:43] Would be good to pick a date that more people can attend [20:43] Yep [20:44] 21st would probably be best for me and theopensourcerer [20:44] October 5th at a pinch, but I need to then save pennies for the honeymoon in October (we're off to Belgium for a week) [20:45] he has two offspring birthdays in september [20:45] must be something about new year [20:45] :D [20:46] popey: when is good for you? [20:46] hmm [20:46] Dave2: RAT? [20:46] * popey shrugs, 14 & 21st are both empty [20:50] dunno [20:50] not sure if I'm doing anything in Ocrober [20:51] er [20:51] October [20:51] or is this the September one [20:51] I don't currently have anything in my calendar for then [20:52] however I'm just leaving to go to the pub [20:52] Dave2: looks to be 21st September. Think about it [20:54] czajkowski: you should come join us on the RAT this year (and not be ill). Bring Jon! [20:55] Whom else? A couple of Bryns maybe [20:55] I think christel will be busy around that time :S [20:57] see if aq is around? [20:57] And Adam Sweet [21:03] * bigcalm likes these spur of the moment beer arrangements. Only 6 months in advance [21:20] all the books are on the shelves and none have fallen down \o/ [21:20] Well done that man [21:21] 2 small shelves to put up in the kitchen still [21:22] Neat: http://imgur.com/gallery/apQd5 [21:23] Funky: [21:24] very nice [21:24] Ale all gone :( [21:25] :( [21:25] Only wine left in the house now [21:25] Le sigh [21:25] same as here. [21:27] Oop. I'm being told to get off the puta and go watch On Her Maj's Secret Service with my better half [21:28] lol, woops. [21:29] Toodles :) [21:30] AlanBell: would be grateful if you could create an event for 21st September :) [21:30] sure [21:30] Cheers :) [21:37] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2320-real-ale-train/ [21:38] remember the clocks tonight boys [21:38] tmrw night. [21:38] what day is today> [21:38] satday [21:39] tonight [21:39] hence put them forward now [21:39] BST starts tmrw, ah, ok, brain burp. good point. [21:40] my shift ends 1.30, which is really 2.30, then the boy will wake at 7.30-8am :( [21:42] that girl on itv looks like an alien [21:42] head on a stick [21:42] * brobostigon is watching QI. :) [21:48] anyone else have these problems on unity? http://ubuntuone.com/3froHmRtrGfH7dgWq1Wb1p [21:49] two nautilus icons - only one has the windows [21:49] and 2) launch picasa, get the wine icon and you can't interact with the picasa icon [21:52] what release of ubuntu is that? [21:53] you probably have some duplication in desktop files in /usr/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications [21:53] or its a bug in bamf [21:53] 1204 [21:54] the nautilus icons actually are different [21:55] gonna just remove it from launcher and see what happebs [21:56] yeah, remove both, start nautilus and then lock it to the launcher again [22:00] i had problems like that constantly when i used unity [22:02] i thought we'd fixed most of those [22:02] like i keep telling you [22:02] you can never fix it [22:02] i know we SRU'd some updates to bamf in 12.04 some time back to fix this stuff [22:02] hence "most" [22:02] there will always be another app new that you don't special case yet [22:03] nauilus and wine are hardly new apps [22:03] and are well known [22:03] wine isn't an app [22:03] YKWIM [22:03] it's a runtime for multiple different apps, all of which need to be special cased [22:03] the same with java [22:06] docky never had this problem [22:06] i've seen this happen in OS X [22:11] trying some one handed gimping , its quite hard [22:15] wat [22:15] baby in hand I imagine [22:16] I used to do one handed ircing with sam in hand years ago [22:16] * popey goes round changing clocks [22:16] is it that time already? [22:18] hmm when is the RAT ? [22:23] bigcalm: popey ^^ [22:41] czajkowski: 21st september [22:46] cool [22:46] will poke when I'm back later in the week to Jon and see if he's up for it [22:59] ali1234: fruits of my gimping: http://ubuntuone.com/6fCKDiQDywLRAnOEttzO2v [23:11] oh noes engine failure [23:13] pilot failure too as there's no pilot on that model [23:13] pilot got out to restart the engine? [23:14] the kit contained no pilot :( [23:14] its a tiny little thing irl [23:14] if you have engine failure in one of those can you restart it by autorotation or are you basically screwed? [23:15] hmm i was watching a programme about it last year [23:15] most issues were normally fire. and they didn't wear parachutes because it encouraged them to bale [23:16] maybe i should add some smoke coming out [23:19] http://www.flickr.com/photos/34076827@N00/4587719364 [23:21] wowza [23:28] they've shuffled some planes around at the raf museum, hence i must pay a visit again [23:28] one of my favourite places