[00:27] <bjsnider> surprised they're wealthy enough to afford rhel licenses
[00:39] <penguin42> big company
[00:45] <maxb> Is it just me, or is there no way to access Totem's preferences UI in raring?
[00:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Big problem: [Kubuntu 31.04] When I plug a VGA monitor into my laptop both screens go berserk. (My config, 1024x768 laptop, 1920x1080 VGA) has worked before! Intel GMA965!
[00:51] <maxb> Gosh, it's 2031 already? :-p
[00:51] <SonikkuAmerica> This is essentially a problem that needs fixing via terminal, I think
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah, I come from the future. :P
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Of course I mean 13.04
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> It also blows my cursor outta proportion too
[00:54] <SonikkuAmerica> I just typed this last sentence blind because I can't see the window after pluggin  the VGA monitor in
[00:54] <SonikkuAmerica> (btw my guess is that we'll see Kunity by 2031)
[00:56] <SonikkuAmerica> And now I'm back (except my cursor is now 48 px instead of 24)
[00:57] <yofel> SonikkuAmerica: what does xrandr say about the screen config?
[00:59] <SonikkuAmerica> One sec...
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> OMG it said that LVDS1 was 1024x768 (laptop; highest possible; this it can handle) and Screen 0 (presumably the VGA) was 4358x768! O.o I swear I set it to 1920x1080!
[01:03] <SonikkuAmerica> So I figure I have to use xrandr to set it back to 1920x1080... but how can I select the screen to change its res?
[01:03] <yofel> the screen configuration application for Kubuntu changed (kscreen instead of krandr) so I guess X read the EDID information wrong?
[01:05] <yofel> SonikkuAmerica: can you select the correct resolution from system settings?
[01:05] <yofel> (or run 'kcmshell4 kscreen' in krunner)
[01:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Nope... but I ran [ xrandr --screen 0 -s 1920x1080 ] in a terminal, plugged in the VGA, hit ENTER... and it worked... now I need the laptop screen back
[01:07] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, now that's back from System Settings, but windows are showing up under the top panel I set up there (I config'ed my KDE to look like GNOME 2)
[01:07] <yofel> shouldn't happen unless the 2nd screen is above the one with the panel
[01:08] <yofel> SonikkuAmerica: also, could you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please? Maybe that has some pointers on why it thought that 4358x768 is a sane resolution
[01:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Guess I need to watch where I put my screens in the Display Config tab in Display and Monitor... thx 4 pointing that out
[01:09] <SonikkuAmerica> and 4 the help in general
[05:51] <cakebuntu> Hey, just wondering - is the 13.04 download down or is it just me?
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> cakebuntu, these daily's are working I ran rsync earlier today
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[05:55] <cakebuntu> I get a 404 error
[05:55] <cakebuntu> The requested URL /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/www/full/daily-live/20130328/raring-desktop-amd64.iso was not found on this server.
[05:55] <valorie> cakebuntu: I get the same
[05:56] <valorie> you might try wget in case it's just the http
[05:56] <cakebuntu> I'm on Windows right now
[05:56] <valorie> so sorry
[05:57] <cakebuntu> Could I try the FTP?
[05:58] <valorie> if you already have images you could zsync
[05:58] <valorie> that just gives you the changes
[05:58] <valorie> pretty slick
[05:59] <valorie> http://lifehacker.com/5393555/use-zsync-to-upgrade-an-ubuntu-installation-image
[05:59] <valorie> among others
[06:00] <valorie> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2009/10/29/use-zsync-to-update-existing-iso-images/ would be better
[06:01] <valorie> when I was testing dailies, I did that every day
[06:01] <valorie> the re-naming is the only fiddly bit
[06:02] <cakebuntu> i don't have the image
[06:02] <cakebuntu> :(
[06:06] <valorie> can you torrent it?
[06:06] <valorie> I rarely actually download from the servers
[06:07] <valorie> torrent is so much more friendly
[06:07] <valorie> harder on the dailies though
[06:07] <cakebuntu> where is there a torrent of the dailies? :P
[06:07] <valorie> you might be able to torrent the beta image though
[06:07] <valorie> and zsync from that
[06:10] <valorie> piffle, they have betas for everything but the regular ubuntu image
[06:10] <valorie> I use kubuntu, so it would be easy for me
[06:11] <valorie> unless you use the cloud server
[06:11] <valorie> or netboot?
[06:11] <valorie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview
[06:14] <cakebuntu> just upgrade from 12.10?
[06:15] <valorie> you can do that, sure
[06:15] <valorie> but you won't have an ISO
[06:15] <valorie> depends on your goal
[06:15] <cakebuntu> my netbook only works properly with 13.04
[06:16] <cakebuntu> 12.10 has problems with the gpu but it's usable
[06:16] <valorie> I've tested the upgrade on two of my machines (kubuntu) - regular laptop, and netbook
[06:16] <valorie> both are great
[06:16] <cakebuntu> i'm concerned about breaking packages though
[06:17] <valorie> the alpha had a few problems, but the beta seems great
[06:17] <valorie> that said, I haven't updated them all week
[06:17] <cakebuntu> i mean packages breaking in the upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04
[06:18] <valorie> well, I had no problems in kubuntu
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:44] <piotrek> Hi guys! I feel like refreshing my Ubuntu setup and I'm thinking about throwin 13.04 on it right now. Do you think it's a good idea? I'm mean it should be pretty polished now and I will be receiving updates as thing progress until it's final release at the end of the month, right?
[13:46] <piotrek> Or not and I will have to reinstall the whole thing from scratch once the final version comes out?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> piotrek: , I repeat just FYI , I update/upgrade everyday on 13.04 , running nicely atm
[13:46] <penguin42> should be - but things can always break - so if you know how to get out of a mess it's ok, but I'm not aware of any current messes
[13:47] <piotrek> Great :) I'm prepared to hit a few rough corners here and there and I do make backups. I'll give it a go :)
[15:27] <sepisoad> I have a problem with my login screen
[15:27] <sepisoad> i'm usinh 13.04 daily build
[15:28] <sepisoad> after i enter my password screen returns to login screen again
[15:28] <sepisoad> i enter correct password but still cannot login
[15:28] <sepisoad> now i'm using guest user to use the OS
[15:28] <wilee-nilee> sepisoad, Fresh install? what desktop ubuntu, kubuntu...etc
[15:28] <sepisoad> ubuntu yes
[15:29] <wilee-nilee> sepisoad, Fresh install?
[15:29] <sepisoad> I've been using this for 3 months now
[15:29] <sepisoad> no issue so far
[15:29] <sepisoad> but this one is really annoying
[15:30] <wilee-nilee> sepisoad, Ah, well you will need better help than me, be sure to use peoples nicks when you respond here though. ;
[15:30] <sepisoad> wilee-nilee, oops
[15:31] <wilee-nilee> sepisoad, heh, it is easy to forget. ;)
[15:31] <sepisoad> wilee-nilee, do you have any suggestion
[15:32] <BluesKaj> sepisoad:  which graphics card ?
[15:32] <sepisoad> nvidia, nouveu driver
[15:33] <sepisoad> BluesKaj, nvidia nouveau driver
[15:33] <sepisoad> BluesKaj, I guess it is not driver issue, cuz I can login as guest user
[15:33] <wilee-nilee> sepisoad, not really other than the ubuntu forums can be helpful, but people will help here.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Iasked which card , have to know if the nvida current will work
[15:34] <BluesKaj> sepisoad:  drop to a tty and update and upgrade , then install the nvvidia current driver , then reboot
[15:35] <BluesKaj> same thing happened to me ,the above is the method I used to solve it
[15:35] <sepisoad> BluesKaj, I did apt-get update and upgrade
[15:36] <BluesKaj> install the nvidia-current driver , it works 90% of the time , then reboot
[15:37] <sepisoad> BluesKaj, ok let me try
[15:41] <BluesKaj> yeah , the guest user access had me scratching my head too , strange
[15:47] <wilee-nilee> could be a kernel update, associated with the driver
[15:47] <sepisoad> I tried to reinstall nvidia driver
[15:47] <sepisoad> It didn't help
[15:47] <BluesKaj> wilee-nilee:  yeah , I didn't think it was a user permissions thing
[15:48] <sepisoad> It didn't help
[15:48] <sepisoad> essentially this solutions seems to be irrelevant
[15:48] <BluesKaj> yeah we saw
[15:48] <wilee-nilee> sepisoad, Have you tried an earlier kernel?
[15:48] <wilee-nilee> showing in the grub meanu
[15:48] <sepisoad> wilee-nilee, ok let me explain my problem again
[15:48] <BluesKaj> did the driver install , sepisoad
[15:49] <sepisoad> wilee-nilee, I can see login screen and enter my password
[15:49] <sepisoad> wilee-nilee, then after 1,2 second I get back to login screen again
[15:50] <sepisoad> wilee-nilee, but I can login to ubuntu desktop as guest user normally
[15:50] <wilee-nilee> sepisoad, sure, however there a number of possibilities here, most help has to narrow down these.
[15:51] <sepisoad> wilee-nilee, where can I get an immediate help for my problem,
[15:51] <wilee-nilee> the guest account access is probably helpful though for someone who can help.
[15:52] <wilee-nilee> sepisoad, call a tech, this is free help. I would start a thread at the ubuntu forums or the ubuntu help website I forget the HTTP though.
[15:52] <BluesKaj> wonder if the guest acct is already active on an older kernel , like mine was on 12.10 before upgrading to 13.04
[15:55] <BluesKaj> sepisoad:  posting ubuntu won't help if you told them you're on 13.04 , they'll just redirect you back here
[15:55] <BluesKaj> on #ubuntu that is
[15:58] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, I have hardly ever had a problem like this, however when I have I just pop a clone back it, no biggie.
[16:01] <BluesKaj> me niether , the upgrade at the tty seemed to solve my problem . guess the nvidia-current install was irrelevant , wilee-nilee
[16:02] <BluesKaj> altho it's the correct driver
[16:02] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, I suspect there was a history left out that would give the answer, it is unlikely this is going to just happen randomly.
[16:02] <wilee-nilee> even on a beta
[16:05] <BluesKaj> it would be interesting to find out what the glitch/bug is in his case , so we can help those who encounter it  ..it's a weird one
[16:05] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, Do you use any android phones or pads I found a mounter that works perfectly, my droid phone mounts automatically but the nexus 7 does not.
[16:06] <wilee-nilee> yeah on the answer
[16:06] <BluesKaj> wilee-nilee:  no I don't , altho i'm thinking about a nexus 7. Is there a problem with the Nexus ?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> or the samsung galaxy 10.2 or Note , not sure yet
[16:08] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, Not so much a problem you can get the sdk kit and have access, but for the people who want to click and access this mounter is great. The nexus is cool but not enough ram really, my droid with a quad core and 2 gigs rams smokes it.
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> get a quad and the ram and it would be usable.
[16:09] <BluesKaj> wilee-nilee:  which android / device is that ?
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html    the mounter?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> definitely has integrate with Linux , or it's off my list
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, Yeah, I run W8 got it cheap student discount to use word I am writing papers for school it just s easier.
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> the only problem is the mtp system
[16:12] <BluesKaj> ok which phone ?
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> Mine is the HTC droid
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_droid_dna-5113.php
[16:13] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:14] <wilee-nilee> I started on open source the MS use is a anomaly for sure here, lol
[16:15] <wilee-nilee> gotta help the real noobs, lol
[17:39] <BluesKaj> hmm ,guess my znc connection broke
[17:42] <sary> Salutations!
[17:43] <sary> !Bug #1162394
[19:19] <sary> after zsynicing ubuntu-gnome 13.04 live daily duild , md5sum check was ok.
[19:22] <sary> burned the iso to a different usb media .. still "ubiquity" is acting badly.
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> sary, just info here. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1080701
[19:26] <sary> hi wilee-nilee , thanks for pointing that out :)
[19:27] <sary> !bug #1162394
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> sary, no problem.
[19:28] <sary> ah, my report become a Duplicate of bug #1161058
[19:30] <sary> I can't till this is fixed, i mean how can you test a pre-release if you you're stuck on the first place!
[19:32] <trism> sary: can you boot to the live session instead? my guess is running ubiquity from there won't crash (at least, not from failing to load indicator-session)
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> sary, It is a beta, I have had no problems myself, it is a bummer to see and others having problems though. ;)
[19:34] <trism> sary: if you can you might also check if indicator-session is installed...though ubiquity should really be checking for nulls...and if that is the problem I wonder why the ubuntu-gnome iso didn't crash in 12.10 like this
[19:34] <sary> hi trism , am actually running the live session right now, and at this point it give a failed error " to creat a swap space" .
[19:36] <sary> trism: , you mean check "indicator-session" with in the live-cd ?!
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> sary, How many partitions and what types?
[19:36] <trism> sary: yes, apt-cache policy indicator-session; on the livecd
[19:37] <sary> sure thing ..
[19:37] <sary> wilee-nilee: ext4 for / , and swap .
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> sary, That all the partitions on the drive?
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> just curious
[19:41] <sary> wilee-nilee: correct .
[19:41] <sary> trism: "indicator-session" status : not installed.
[19:48] <sary> wilee-nilee: 2 hours ago , i have successfully upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 on that exact machine.
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> sary, So this is a fresh install attempt with 13.04 dualbooting, or another upgrade?
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> or just testing the ISO
[19:51] <sary> fresh install of 13.04 , not a dual booting system.
[19:52] <sary> so basically , i wiped 12.10 for 13.04 :)
[19:53] <sary> hoping for a long testing ..
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> Ah, well if you just want a install I would just build the partitions in gparted, and use the something else like you are to point the install, or build the swap after the install. If this is possible anyway.
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> sary, ^^^
[19:56] <sary> good idea on gparted , as i just got another error " failed to resize .. "
[19:56] <sary> i'll even creat a new partition table this time , lets see ..
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> I never use the installer for making partitions myself I just use gparted
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> although I believe the installer rebuilds the partitions to install, not sure really, I don't use a swap either.
[20:01] <sary> good thinkin , i just wish there is a text-mode is an alternative option on the installer to avoide such issue if any exisit.
[20:02] <sary> *as an .
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> sary, On the full release there are the mini cd net installs.
[20:04] <sary> right , but don't you think it's even better to have the mini net cd for a pre-release! :)
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> sary, heh, don't know really I have tried it just for fun.  My suspicion is the developers just have a system as free from outliers as possible.
[22:25] <sary> Back.
[22:25] <sary> still no go.
[22:25] <sary> the installer just hangs, could it be something releated to the GPU loaded on the kernel!
[22:27] <sary> tried to set the optional boot parameter " nomodeset " , didn't help.
[22:29] <sary> but here is the catch .. i've tried the same live cd iso on two different machines with different GPU's.
[22:47] <oingu> how stable is raring? i dont mind rebooting daily, but hourly wouldn't make me happy ... ?
[23:01] <penguin42> oingu: Kubuntu raring is fairly good for me
[23:01] <penguin42> oingu: Odd bugs here and there but nothign that kills it
[23:08] <halabund> The ubuntu Software Updater hung at a step and won't progress: "Unpacking linux-image-3.8.0-15-generic".  What is the safest thing to do now?  Just kill it?  It won't be a huge problem if the system breaks (it's 13.04 beta), but I'd prefer to keep it working if possible ...
[23:41] <designbybeck_> ah dang, they took out "F3" side by side view in 13.04! Did anyone else use that as much as me! I loved having that option!
[23:42] <designbybeck_> but 13.04 is coming along nicely