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bjsnidersurprised they're wealthy enough to afford rhel licenses00:27
penguin42big company00:39
maxbIs it just me, or is there no way to access Totem's preferences UI in raring?00:45
SonikkuAmericaBig problem: [Kubuntu 31.04] When I plug a VGA monitor into my laptop both screens go berserk. (My config, 1024x768 laptop, 1920x1080 VGA) has worked before! Intel GMA965!00:49
maxbGosh, it's 2031 already? :-p00:51
SonikkuAmericaThis is essentially a problem that needs fixing via terminal, I think00:51
SonikkuAmericaYeah, I come from the future. :P00:52
SonikkuAmericaOf course I mean 13.0400:52
SonikkuAmericaIt also blows my cursor outta proportion too00:52
SonikkuAmericaI just typed this last sentence blind because I can't see the window after pluggin  the VGA monitor in00:54
SonikkuAmerica(btw my guess is that we'll see Kunity by 2031)00:54
SonikkuAmericaAnd now I'm back (except my cursor is now 48 px instead of 24)00:56
yofelSonikkuAmerica: what does xrandr say about the screen config?00:57
SonikkuAmericaOne sec...00:59
SonikkuAmericaOMG it said that LVDS1 was 1024x768 (laptop; highest possible; this it can handle) and Screen 0 (presumably the VGA) was 4358x768! O.o I swear I set it to 1920x1080!01:02
SonikkuAmericaSo I figure I have to use xrandr to set it back to 1920x1080... but how can I select the screen to change its res?01:03
yofelthe screen configuration application for Kubuntu changed (kscreen instead of krandr) so I guess X read the EDID information wrong?01:03
yofelSonikkuAmerica: can you select the correct resolution from system settings?01:05
yofel(or run 'kcmshell4 kscreen' in krunner)01:05
SonikkuAmericaNope... but I ran [ xrandr --screen 0 -s 1920x1080 ] in a terminal, plugged in the VGA, hit ENTER... and it worked... now I need the laptop screen back01:06
SonikkuAmericaOK, now that's back from System Settings, but windows are showing up under the top panel I set up there (I config'ed my KDE to look like GNOME 2)01:07
yofelshouldn't happen unless the 2nd screen is above the one with the panel01:07
yofelSonikkuAmerica: also, could you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please? Maybe that has some pointers on why it thought that 4358x768 is a sane resolution01:08
SonikkuAmericaGuess I need to watch where I put my screens in the Display Config tab in Display and Monitor... thx 4 pointing that out01:08
SonikkuAmericaand 4 the help in general01:09
cakebuntuHey, just wondering - is the 13.04 download down or is it just me?05:51
wilee-nileecakebuntu, these daily's are working I ran rsync earlier today05:54
wilee-nileehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/05:54
cakebuntuI get a 404 error05:55
cakebuntuThe requested URL /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/www/full/daily-live/20130328/raring-desktop-amd64.iso was not found on this server.05:55
valoriecakebuntu: I get the same05:55
valorieyou might try wget in case it's just the http05:56
cakebuntuI'm on Windows right now05:56
valorieso sorry05:56
cakebuntuCould I try the FTP?05:57
valorieif you already have images you could zsync05:58
valoriethat just gives you the changes05:58
valoriepretty slick05:58
valoriehttp://lifehacker.com/5393555/use-zsync-to-upgrade-an-ubuntu-installation-image05:59
valorieamong others05:59
valoriehttp://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2009/10/29/use-zsync-to-update-existing-iso-images/ would be better06:00
valoriewhen I was testing dailies, I did that every day06:01
valoriethe re-naming is the only fiddly bit06:01
cakebuntui don't have the image06:02
cakebuntu:(06:02
valoriecan you torrent it?06:06
valorieI rarely actually download from the servers06:06
valorietorrent is so much more friendly06:07
valorieharder on the dailies though06:07
cakebuntuwhere is there a torrent of the dailies? :P06:07
valorieyou might be able to torrent the beta image though06:07
valorieand zsync from that06:07
valoriepiffle, they have betas for everything but the regular ubuntu image06:10
valorieI use kubuntu, so it would be easy for me06:10
valorieunless you use the cloud server06:11
valorieor netboot?06:11
valoriehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview06:11
cakebuntujust upgrade from 12.10?06:14
valorieyou can do that, sure06:15
valoriebut you won't have an ISO06:15
valoriedepends on your goal06:15
cakebuntumy netbook only works properly with 13.0406:15
cakebuntu12.10 has problems with the gpu but it's usable06:16
valorieI've tested the upgrade on two of my machines (kubuntu) - regular laptop, and netbook06:16
valorieboth are great06:16
cakebuntui'm concerned about breaking packages though06:16
valoriethe alpha had a few problems, but the beta seems great06:17
valoriethat said, I haven't updated them all week06:17
cakebuntui mean packages breaking in the upgrade from 12.10 to 13.0406:17
valoriewell, I had no problems in kubuntu06:18
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BluesKajHowdy all13:39
piotrekHi guys! I feel like refreshing my Ubuntu setup and I'm thinking about throwin 13.04 on it right now. Do you think it's a good idea? I'm mean it should be pretty polished now and I will be receiving updates as thing progress until it's final release at the end of the month, right?13:44
piotrekOr not and I will have to reinstall the whole thing from scratch once the final version comes out?13:46
BluesKajpiotrek: , I repeat just FYI , I update/upgrade everyday on 13.04 , running nicely atm13:46
penguin42should be - but things can always break - so if you know how to get out of a mess it's ok, but I'm not aware of any current messes13:46
piotrekGreat :) I'm prepared to hit a few rough corners here and there and I do make backups. I'll give it a go :)13:47
sepisoadI have a problem with my login screen15:27
sepisoadi'm usinh 13.04 daily build15:27
sepisoadafter i enter my password screen returns to login screen again15:28
sepisoadi enter correct password but still cannot login15:28
sepisoadnow i'm using guest user to use the OS15:28
wilee-nileesepisoad, Fresh install? what desktop ubuntu, kubuntu...etc15:28
sepisoadubuntu yes15:28
wilee-nileesepisoad, Fresh install?15:29
sepisoadI've been using this for 3 months now15:29
sepisoadno issue so far15:29
sepisoadbut this one is really annoying15:29
wilee-nileesepisoad, Ah, well you will need better help than me, be sure to use peoples nicks when you respond here though. ;15:30
sepisoadwilee-nilee, oops15:30
wilee-nileesepisoad, heh, it is easy to forget. ;)15:31
sepisoadwilee-nilee, do you have any suggestion15:31
BluesKajsepisoad:  which graphics card ?15:32
sepisoadnvidia, nouveu driver15:32
sepisoadBluesKaj, nvidia nouveau driver15:33
sepisoadBluesKaj, I guess it is not driver issue, cuz I can login as guest user15:33
wilee-nileesepisoad, not really other than the ubuntu forums can be helpful, but people will help here.15:33
BluesKajIasked which card , have to know if the nvida current will work15:34
BluesKajsepisoad:  drop to a tty and update and upgrade , then install the nvvidia current driver , then reboot15:34
BluesKajsame thing happened to me ,the above is the method I used to solve it15:35
sepisoadBluesKaj, I did apt-get update and upgrade15:35
BluesKajinstall the nvidia-current driver , it works 90% of the time , then reboot15:36
sepisoadBluesKaj, ok let me try15:37
BluesKajyeah , the guest user access had me scratching my head too , strange15:41
wilee-nileecould be a kernel update, associated with the driver15:47
sepisoadI tried to reinstall nvidia driver15:47
sepisoadIt didn't help15:47
BluesKajwilee-nilee:  yeah , I didn't think it was a user permissions thing15:47
sepisoadIt didn't help15:48
sepisoadessentially this solutions seems to be irrelevant15:48
BluesKajyeah we saw15:48
wilee-nileesepisoad, Have you tried an earlier kernel?15:48
wilee-nileeshowing in the grub meanu15:48
sepisoadwilee-nilee, ok let me explain my problem again15:48
BluesKajdid the driver install , sepisoad15:48
sepisoadwilee-nilee, I can see login screen and enter my password15:49
sepisoadwilee-nilee, then after 1,2 second I get back to login screen again15:49
sepisoadwilee-nilee, but I can login to ubuntu desktop as guest user normally15:50
wilee-nileesepisoad, sure, however there a number of possibilities here, most help has to narrow down these.15:50
sepisoadwilee-nilee, where can I get an immediate help for my problem,15:51
wilee-nileethe guest account access is probably helpful though for someone who can help.15:51
wilee-nileesepisoad, call a tech, this is free help. I would start a thread at the ubuntu forums or the ubuntu help website I forget the HTTP though.15:52
BluesKajwonder if the guest acct is already active on an older kernel , like mine was on 12.10 before upgrading to 13.0415:52
BluesKajsepisoad:  posting ubuntu won't help if you told them you're on 13.04 , they'll just redirect you back here15:55
BluesKajon #ubuntu that is15:55
wilee-nileeBluesKaj, I have hardly ever had a problem like this, however when I have I just pop a clone back it, no biggie.15:58
BluesKajme niether , the upgrade at the tty seemed to solve my problem . guess the nvidia-current install was irrelevant , wilee-nilee16:01
BluesKajaltho it's the correct driver16:02
wilee-nileeBluesKaj, I suspect there was a history left out that would give the answer, it is unlikely this is going to just happen randomly.16:02
wilee-nileeeven on a beta16:02
BluesKajit would be interesting to find out what the glitch/bug is in his case , so we can help those who encounter it  ..it's a weird one16:05
wilee-nileeBluesKaj, Do you use any android phones or pads I found a mounter that works perfectly, my droid phone mounts automatically but the nexus 7 does not.16:05
wilee-nileeyeah on the answer16:06
BluesKajwilee-nilee:  no I don't , altho i'm thinking about a nexus 7. Is there a problem with the Nexus ?16:06
BluesKajor the samsung galaxy 10.2 or Note , not sure yet16:08
wilee-nileeBluesKaj, Not so much a problem you can get the sdk kit and have access, but for the people who want to click and access this mounter is great. The nexus is cool but not enough ram really, my droid with a quad core and 2 gigs rams smokes it.16:08
wilee-nileeget a quad and the ram and it would be usable.16:09
BluesKajwilee-nilee:  which android / device is that ?16:09
wilee-nileehttp://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html    the mounter?16:09
BluesKajdefinitely has integrate with Linux , or it's off my list16:09
wilee-nileeBluesKaj, Yeah, I run W8 got it cheap student discount to use word I am writing papers for school it just s easier.16:10
wilee-nileethe only problem is the mtp system16:11
BluesKajok which phone ?16:12
wilee-nileeMine is the HTC droid16:13
wilee-nileehttp://www.gsmarena.com/htc_droid_dna-5113.php16:13
BluesKajok16:13
wilee-nileeI started on open source the MS use is a anomaly for sure here, lol16:14
wilee-nileegotta help the real noobs, lol16:15
BluesKajhmm ,guess my znc connection broke17:39
sarySalutations!17:42
sary!Bug #116239417:43
ubottubug 1161058 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1162394 panel crashed with SIGSEGV in indicator_object_get_entries()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116105817:43
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saryafter zsynicing ubuntu-gnome 13.04 live daily duild , md5sum check was ok.19:19
saryburned the iso to a different usb media .. still "ubiquity" is acting badly.19:22
wilee-nileesary, just info here. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/108070119:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1080701 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "After 'Preparing to install Ubuntu' screen, raring installation hangs" [High,Confirmed]19:25
saryhi wilee-nilee , thanks for pointing that out :)19:26
sary!bug #116239419:27
wilee-nileesary, no problem.19:27
ubottubug 1161058 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1162394 panel crashed with SIGSEGV in indicator_object_get_entries()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116105819:27
saryah, my report become a Duplicate of bug #116105819:28
ubottubug 1161058 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "panel crashed with SIGSEGV in indicator_object_get_entries()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116105819:28
saryI can't till this is fixed, i mean how can you test a pre-release if you you're stuck on the first place!19:30
trismsary: can you boot to the live session instead? my guess is running ubiquity from there won't crash (at least, not from failing to load indicator-session)19:32
wilee-nileesary, It is a beta, I have had no problems myself, it is a bummer to see and others having problems though. ;)19:32
trismsary: if you can you might also check if indicator-session is installed...though ubiquity should really be checking for nulls...and if that is the problem I wonder why the ubuntu-gnome iso didn't crash in 12.10 like this19:34
saryhi trism , am actually running the live session right now, and at this point it give a failed error " to creat a swap space" .19:34
sarytrism: , you mean check "indicator-session" with in the live-cd ?!19:36
wilee-nileesary, How many partitions and what types?19:36
trismsary: yes, apt-cache policy indicator-session; on the livecd19:36
sarysure thing ..19:37
sarywilee-nilee: ext4 for / , and swap .19:37
wilee-nileesary, That all the partitions on the drive?19:39
wilee-nileejust curious19:40
sarywilee-nilee: correct .19:41
sarytrism: "indicator-session" status : not installed.19:41
sarywilee-nilee: 2 hours ago , i have successfully upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 on that exact machine.19:48
wilee-nileesary, So this is a fresh install attempt with 13.04 dualbooting, or another upgrade?19:50
wilee-nileeor just testing the ISO19:50
saryfresh install of 13.04 , not a dual booting system.19:51
saryso basically , i wiped 12.10 for 13.04 :)19:52
saryhoping for a long testing ..19:53
wilee-nileeAh, well if you just want a install I would just build the partitions in gparted, and use the something else like you are to point the install, or build the swap after the install. If this is possible anyway.19:54
wilee-nileesary, ^^^19:54
sarygood idea on gparted , as i just got another error " failed to resize .. "19:56
saryi'll even creat a new partition table this time , lets see ..19:56
wilee-nileeI never use the installer for making partitions myself I just use gparted19:56
wilee-nileealthough I believe the installer rebuilds the partitions to install, not sure really, I don't use a swap either.19:57
sarygood thinkin , i just wish there is a text-mode is an alternative option on the installer to avoide such issue if any exisit.20:01
sary*as an .20:02
wilee-nileesary, On the full release there are the mini cd net installs.20:02
saryright , but don't you think it's even better to have the mini net cd for a pre-release! :)20:04
wilee-nileesary, heh, don't know really I have tried it just for fun.  My suspicion is the developers just have a system as free from outliers as possible.20:06
saryBack.22:25
sarystill no go.22:25
sarythe installer just hangs, could it be something releated to the GPU loaded on the kernel!22:25
sarytried to set the optional boot parameter " nomodeset " , didn't help.22:27
sarybut here is the catch .. i've tried the same live cd iso on two different machines with different GPU's.22:29
oinguhow stable is raring? i dont mind rebooting daily, but hourly wouldn't make me happy ... ?22:47
penguin42oingu: Kubuntu raring is fairly good for me23:01
penguin42oingu: Odd bugs here and there but nothign that kills it23:01
halabundThe ubuntu Software Updater hung at a step and won't progress: "Unpacking linux-image-3.8.0-15-generic".  What is the safest thing to do now?  Just kill it?  It won't be a huge problem if the system breaks (it's 13.04 beta), but I'd prefer to keep it working if possible ...23:08
designbybeck_ah dang, they took out "F3" side by side view in 13.04! Did anyone else use that as much as me! I loved having that option!23:41
designbybeck_but 13.04 is coming along nicely23:42

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