| BigRedS | mungbean: in London? | 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| mungbean | BigRedS: yes, the one in hendon | 00:11 |
| BigRedS | ooh, what's changed? I go there relatively frequently | 00:18 |
| BigRedS | A good friend used to work there, but I've now lost track of what happens and just turn up from time to time | 00:18 |
| mungbean | history of flight hall has gloster meteor and a different sopwith in there | 00:18 |
| mungbean | the me109 has moved | 00:19 |
| mungbean | judging by friend on fb photos | 00:19 |
| mungbean | not sure what else changed | 00:19 |
| BigRedS | aha, detective work! | 00:19 |
| penguin42 | Manchester science museum has a fairly nice flight hall | 00:24 |
| mungbean | hmm, on oxford road? | 00:27 |
| mungbean | i studied in the maths tower(now demoloished) which was opposite, but only recall the egyptology stuff and the early gospel fragments , but that was 20 yrs ago now | 00:29 |
| penguin42 | ah, no the Science Museum on Deansgate | 00:30 |
| mungbean | ah ok | 00:30 |
| mungbean | didn't venture that far often | 00:31 |
| penguin42 | mungbean: When were you there? | 00:31 |
| mungbean | 93-96 | 00:31 |
| penguin42 | mungbean: Oh I was doing my postgrad then | 00:31 |
| mungbean | aka the good old days | 00:32 |
| mungbean | what in, penguin42 ? | 00:33 |
| penguin42 | CS | 00:33 |
| mungbean | i was maths/cs undegrad | 00:33 |
| penguin42 | oh, if you did any of the 1st year electronic courses I might have Demo'd to you then | 00:33 |
| mungbean | don't think i did | 00:34 |
| mungbean | lived in fallowfield? | 00:34 |
| penguin42 | nah, I lived on the north side with family | 00:34 |
| penguin42 | mungbean: Maths tower is long gone; it's now https://plus.google.com/photos/118251468822440261663/albums/5323474428500984577/5323477385642443922 | 00:34 |
| mungbean | quite a difference! | 00:41 |
| penguin42 | yep, they even built it the right way around | 00:45 |
| mungbean | but what would i chain my bike to:? | 00:46 |
| mungbean | depressing to think its almost 2am | 00:46 |
| penguin42 | I think they put some down the side between the scan building and the cs | 00:46 |
| knightwise | hey everyone | 06:33 |
| MartijnVdS | Goeiemorgen :) | 06:45 |
| knightwise | hey martijn ! | 06:56 |
| knightwise | hoe gaat ie | 06:56 |
| MooDoo | hello all | 07:57 |
| knightwise | hey everyone | 08:28 |
| MooDoo | hello knightwise | 08:36 |
| MartijnVdS | hmm | 08:40 |
| MartijnVdS | Only "ufraw" in raring is up to date enough to be able to work with 6D raw files | 08:40 |
| MartijnVdS | rawtherapee's internal dcraw copy is too old :( | 08:40 |
| MartijnVdS | *shakes fist* | 08:41 |
| MooDoo | I've had to stick with photoshop for raw, don't like ufraw or rawtherapee or darktables :( | 08:42 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: I don't understand how darktable works.. I can't get it to save out a .jpg | 08:42 |
| MooDoo | MartijnVdS: thats another reason i'm using photoshop lo | 08:43 |
| MartijnVdS | MooDoo: rawtherapee and ufraw are fine.. all I do is crop, rotate a little, and fix colours :) | 08:43 |
| MartijnVdS | my brother is the photoshop wizard :) | 08:45 |
| MooDoo | lI'm using it now :) | 08:45 |
| jacobw | Spring forward | 09:02 |
| MooDoo | indeed | 09:10 |
| kvarley | How can I output just the package name and dependencies with aptitude. I can't see a depends flag on this help page: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s04s01.html#secDisplayFormat | 09:13 |
| MooDoo | kvarley: apt-rdepends? | 09:19 |
| MooDoo | or what about apt-cache depends <package_name> | 09:20 |
| kvarley | Thanks MooDoo | 09:22 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 09:25 |
| SuperEngineer | boo! | 09:26 |
| brobostigon | morning SuperEngineer | 09:26 |
| SuperEngineer | morninks | 09:28 |
| * SuperEngineer spent last night watching Dr. Who - then playing Amnesia [The Dark Descent]... | 09:28 | |
| MartijnVdS | SuperEngineer: now watch the "Blink" episode ;) | 09:29 |
| SuperEngineer | ..& finding out that headphones no longer work on anything being out to by PC | 09:29 |
| SuperEngineer | MartijnVdS: the "Blink" episode? | 09:30 |
| * SuperEngineer also found out that Anmesia, which was £3.95 on Friday is already back up to full price | 09:31 | |
| SuperEngineer | made I laugh! | 09:31 |
| SuperEngineer | ;) | 09:32 |
| MartijnVdS | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink_(Doctor_Who) | 09:36 |
| SuperEngineer | MartijnVdS: ah... the Weeeping Angels... I remember that one. | 09:41 |
| SuperEngineer | that was an episode extraordinaire ! | 09:43 |
| SuperEngineer | Whatever you do, don't even blink! | 09:44 |
| GentileBen | MartijnVdS: did you watch the game against Romania? Van Persie finally surpassed Cruyff. | 09:45 |
| SuperEngineer | In fact, the phtrase "whatever you do, don't close your eyes... don't even blink" applied to the whole UK last night | 09:54 |
| SuperEngineer | .... they stole an hour from ius whilst we blinked or slept | 09:54 |
| GentileBen | Actually, I was awake at 00:59. | 09:55 |
| SuperEngineer | but they hadn't stolen the hour then! | 09:55 |
| GentileBen | I was like, "wtf, my tablet's time is fucked. Oh wait...the evil NWO/Reptilian/ZOG DST conspiracy." | 09:56 |
| SuperEngineer | apparently that happen at 2am | 09:56 |
| MooDoo | is it 2? thought it was 1am | 09:56 |
| SuperEngineer | [which means ya tablets got a naff time mngr btw | 09:56 |
| GentileBen | No it doesn't... | 09:56 |
| GentileBen | It means it follows the goddamn time specification for DST. | 09:56 |
| SuperEngineer | MooDoo: yes 1 becoame 2 ;) | 09:57 |
| GentileBen | The time is supposed to change from 00:59 to 02:00. | 09:57 |
| GentileBen | And it -did-. | 09:57 |
| SuperEngineer | we all blinked! look what happened! | 09:58 |
| GentileBen | Don't blame the blinking - blame the NWO and their army of Time Nazis. | 09:58 |
| SuperEngineer | [can be very disconcerting after playing Amnesia all night] | 09:58 |
| SuperEngineer | GentileBen: you - are - no - fun | 09:59 |
| * SuperEngineer sides with Timelord optoin - not the other | 10:00 | |
| SuperEngineer | *option | 10:00 |
| KrimZon | Time Nazis... that's the perfect name for the badguys in my game, Don't Forget Your Duty To Vietnam While Honouring Your Medals In 1942 | 10:02 |
| * SuperEngineer puts gun to head | 10:02 | |
| GentileBen | KrimZon, sounds like a potential AAA game. | 10:03 |
| GentileBen | Make sure you add lean support. | 10:03 |
| GentileBen | It's important I can lean from behind fat Viet people in that game. | 10:03 |
| KrimZon | it will feature realistic rendering features such as Filled Polygon Graphics | 10:06 |
| KrimZon | and support Duck And Cover mechanics | 10:06 |
| KrimZon | press X and your soldier crouches down and hides under a blanket | 10:07 |
| GentileBen | Will it feature real-time...weapon change? | 10:11 |
| * SuperEngineer is proud that Ubuntu copes with all my connections [nVidia card goes to a KVM switch used in reverse, to the 5.1 sound system, HDMI to the TV] | 10:19 | |
| SuperEngineer | ....but annoyed that he can't find reason for headphone death [phones checked and working] | 10:20 |
| SuperEngineer | ...the answer eludes me for now... but I have faith ;) | 10:21 |
| * SuperEngineer keeps hunting through various optons | 10:21 | |
| SuperEngineer | *options | 10:22 |
| daubers | Morning | 10:42 |
| MooDoo | morning | 10:44 |
| === dummy-bot is now known as dummy-sen | ||
| * SuperEngineer wites note to self... "next time, get a theatre sound system with a damn headphone socket!" | 10:50 | |
| * daubers sets up squid to break his reddit habit | 11:05 | |
| MooDoo | :) set me one up as well for facebook, google+ twiiter and any work url :) | 11:15 |
| AlanBell | afternoon all | 11:15 |
| AlanBell | dad has been getting GPU lockups on 12.04 recently | 11:15 |
| AlanBell | wonder if an upgrade to 12.10 would make a difference | 11:16 |
| MooDoo | hello AlanBell | 11:19 |
| AlanBell | hi | 11:19 |
| MooDoo | only one way to try it AlanBell :) | 11:19 |
| AlanBell | yeah, upgrading it now | 11:23 |
| AlanBell | should take a few hours | 11:23 |
| MooDoo | 12.04 is lts isn't it? | 11:25 |
| MooDoo | ignore that | 11:25 |
| AlanBell | it is | 11:39 |
| AlanBell | so I kind of suspect the hardware is failing | 11:39 |
| MooDoo | boo :( | 11:41 |
| * SuperEngineer smiles smugly at remembering to do weekly [off disk] backup despite it being Easter | 11:43 | |
| MooDoo | that reminds me, i must take my offsite backup disk OFFSITE lol | 11:44 |
| SuperEngineer | MooDoo: agreed :D | 11:44 |
| penguin42 | huh, yeuch remembered what I have to do today - set up a camera to watch my boilers status display; anyone know of a good flexible video recorder prog that can record off webcam - I think I'll probably make it record over sshfs | 11:46 |
| MooDoo | penguin42: GUVCViewer ? | 11:47 |
| MooDoo | penguin42: sorry make that guvcview lol | 11:50 |
| penguin42 | hmm thanks, I'll look it up | 11:50 |
| MooDoo | it's one of the two and should be availble in the repos | 11:50 |
| penguin42 | I could do with getting some temperature sensors to wire up and record at the same time | 11:51 |
| dogmatic69_ | anyone know how I can have cacti reporting (server is at home) for a cloud server? | 11:54 |
| dogmatic69_ | I think I need something like ssh tunnel but not sure how to do it securely | 11:54 |
| dogmatic69_ | They have this how to http://docs.cacti.net/howto:ssh_tunnels_unix | 11:55 |
| dogmatic69_ | I dont have 3 server/pc's though | 11:56 |
| penguin42 | hasn't looked at cacti for years | 12:12 |
| dogmatic69_ | I think I got a new tutorial to follow | 12:13 |
| dogmatic69_ | seems to make more sense so far | 12:13 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69_: Right, have you done ssh port forwarding before? | 12:13 |
| dogmatic69_ | nope | 12:13 |
| dogmatic69_ | I am following this one now http://www.playingwithwire.com/2007/06/monitoring-remote-hosts-with-cacti/ | 12:13 |
| penguin42 | ok, try ssh forwarding with something simpler first - it's actually really useful | 12:14 |
| dogmatic69_ | I have read many times how awesome it is :D | 12:14 |
| dogmatic69_ | With this command: ssh -N -L 16000:127.0.0.1:161 snmp@server1.xyz.net | 12:17 |
| dogmatic69_ | Does that mean localhost:16000 is really server1.xyz.net? | 12:17 |
| MartijnVdS | that means that when you connect to localhost:16000, it'll put you through to whatever server1.xyz.net thinks "port 161 of 127.0.0.1" means ;) | 12:19 |
| dogmatic69_ | k | 12:19 |
| dogmatic69_ | how do you 'stop' a tunnel? | 12:19 |
| MartijnVdS | kill the ssh connection, or using <enter>~C | 12:20 |
| MartijnVdS | (see ssh manpage) | 12:20 |
| dogmatic69_ | its started with & so I guess in htop will work | 12:20 |
| MartijnVdS | <enter>~# lists forwarded connections | 12:20 |
| MartijnVdS | kill the "Ssh" process, that should do it | 12:20 |
| bigcalm[mob] | Afternoon peeps :) | 12:21 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm[mob]: you're the mob now? | 12:21 |
| bigcalm[mob] | Hehe | 12:21 |
| bigcalm[mob] | I'm on my mob. Visiting Hayley's parents for Easter lunch. There are 14 of us here | 12:22 |
| dogmatic69_ | MartijnVdS: would that not kill all ssh connections to? | 12:22 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69_: only if you have multiplexing turned on :) | 12:22 |
| dogmatic69_ | :O | 12:23 |
| dogmatic69_ | idk what that is even | 12:23 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69_: you should kill the ssh that you used to set up the tunnel | 12:23 |
| bigcalm[mob] | killall -9 ssh ? | 12:23 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm[mob]: nah, that kills ALL ssh clients | 12:23 |
| MartijnVdS | it's the nuclear option :) | 12:23 |
| MartijnVdS | if you started it with "&" "jobs" should show it | 12:23 |
| bigcalm[mob] | Sorry, I've walked in to a conversation part way through | 12:24 |
| dogmatic69_ | as in 'jobs' is a terminal command? | 12:24 |
| MartijnVdS | and kill %X should kill it (X = number of job.. so kill %3 if it's listed as the third job" | 12:24 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69_: sí | 12:24 |
| dogmatic69_ | ah. so its not running then... | 12:24 |
| dogmatic69_ | :/ | 12:24 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69_: don't ssh & | 12:24 |
| MartijnVdS | you'll want ssh -f if you really want backgrounding (because of the password prompts etc.) | 12:25 |
| MartijnVdS | man ssh \o/ | 12:25 |
| dogmatic69_ | MartijnVdS: well i will use a pwdless key for login | 12:26 |
| MartijnVdS | sure but still :) | 12:26 |
| dogmatic69_ | its just for cacti | 12:26 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69_: read the docs for "-f", it's really cool | 12:26 |
| dogmatic69_ | ah, seems smart. | 12:27 |
| dogmatic69_ | so that will wait for anything and once logged in disappear | 12:28 |
| MartijnVdS | yes | 12:28 |
| dogmatic69_ | hmm, think its working now | 12:29 |
| dogmatic69_ | jobs still empty though. | 12:29 |
| dogmatic69_ | snmpwalk -v 1 -c public tcp:localhost:16000 shows data so I assume the tunnel is working | 12:30 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 12:30 |
| dogmatic69_ | unless I looped the ssh back to localhost somehow :D | 12:31 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69_: look for the hostname in SNMP output :) | 12:32 |
| dogmatic69_ | MartijnVdS: its correct \o/ | 12:33 |
| dogmatic69_ | thanks. Trying to add it on cacti now | 12:34 |
| dogmatic69_ | ohhh | 12:34 |
| penguin42 | dogmatic69_: As for security, ssh tunnelling is pretty good - just make sure you know what lets you go where | 12:44 |
| SuperEngineer | Urgent request: running out of things to do to avoid firing up works laptop & reading emails & installing tech stuff.... help! | 12:53 |
| penguin42 | youtube! | 12:53 |
| SuperEngineer | phew! | 12:53 |
| dogmatic69_ | reddit.com | 12:53 |
| SuperEngineer | thanks penguin42 | 12:53 |
| penguin42 | SuperEngineer: You do have a Raring install to test don't you? | 12:54 |
| SuperEngineer | ooo... life is looking better already ;) | 12:54 |
| shauno | you should try accidentally leaving the work laptop at work sometimes. it's fantastic :) | 13:09 |
| shauno | and completely OT, this gem from irishrail .. Don't forget the clocks have gone back so check your time before you travel | 13:12 |
| shauno | explains a lot | 13:12 |
| SuperEngineer | shauno: my office is unfortunately my home & I travel to customer locations around UK - so the trouble is - I did as you suugested ;) | 13:25 |
| StevenR_ | penguin42: re: our conversation last weekend on my parents crashing box with 3.2.0-39, here's the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1160582 | 13:27 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 1160582 in linux (Ubuntu) "Crash using 3.2.0-39-generic" [High,Confirmed] | 13:27 |
| SuperEngineer | but don't worry - I'm currently very busy doing as others have suggested [plus, just realised, Madagacar is on TV] :D | 13:27 |
| penguin42 | StevenR_: Huh erm only vaguely remember | 13:28 |
| SuperEngineer | *Madagascar | 13:28 |
| penguin42 | StevenR_: I don't see the backtrace in any of the logs attached | 13:30 |
| StevenR_ | penguin42: WifiSyslog.txt ? | 13:31 |
| penguin42 | oh - hadn't thought it was a wifi specific | 13:31 |
| StevenR_ | penguin42: it isn't. The box doesn't even have wifi | 13:31 |
| StevenR_ | penguin42: I don't know why ubuntu-bug named /var/log/syslog to wifisyslog.txt | 13:32 |
| penguin42 | StevenR_: So there are a few separate oops in there - I think the irqbalance one is the first in that boot | 13:34 |
| penguin42 | StevenR_: How often do these happen? | 13:36 |
| StevenR_ | several times per day | 13:36 |
| StevenR_ | penguin42: 3-4 times, looking at my mail history | 13:38 |
| penguin42 | StevenR_: OK, time to gather a few of the oops messages, in particular try and see if they are similar each time or different; I've just added a comment showing the two I extracted from your logs - if the 1st one on each boot is always the irqbalance then that narrows it down a bit | 13:38 |
| StevenR_ | upto 10 times | 13:38 |
| StevenR_ | (the box sends me a mail on boot) | 13:39 |
| penguin42 | if they're different every time....well life gets hard | 13:39 |
| StevenR_ | ok, I'll go and pull the logs and see | 13:40 |
| ^aDaM | Anyone know if 8.10 will still work? I have it on disc here Desk Edition 32Bit. | 13:42 |
| ^aDaM | But when I installed inside windows via Windows Desktop | 13:43 |
| ^aDaM | and rebooted it.. it came to the loading bar of Ubuntu start up.. | 13:43 |
| ^aDaM | and got stuck half way :/ | 13:43 |
| penguin42 | well it won't self destruct - but it's not maintained, and may not work on recent hardware/VM | 13:43 |
| ^aDaM | Whys that? I have disc space. | 13:43 |
| penguin42 | well new hardware may do new tricks (as might new windows) and it might be that there has to be added support for it - use a recent Ubuntu | 13:43 |
| ^aDaM | Yes true say, I have 8.10 :( no copie of latest.. | 13:44 |
| ^aDaM | I need blank discs. | 13:44 |
| penguin42 | got a USB thumb drive? | 13:44 |
| ^aDaM | Is there any other ways?? | 13:44 |
| ^aDaM | Yes I have USB HDD Maxtor 250GB LaCiE Brick. | 13:44 |
| ^aDaM | Current has a few photo's | 13:45 |
| penguin42 | do you have a completely spare one - that you can wipe? | 13:45 |
| ^aDaM | Yes. | 13:45 |
| ^aDaM | USB HDD :) | 13:45 |
| penguin42 | hmm ok, never done it with a big brick; with a little USB flash drive you can put the Ubuntu image onto there and boot from it (see the install instructions for how) | 13:45 |
| ^aDaM | I have tried that loads :( UNetBootin, LinuxLiveUSB etc.. | 13:46 |
| ^aDaM | I can't seem to get it to boot via USB has errors | 13:46 |
| ^aDaM | Can I boot and do a fresh install on my HDD? so when I boot it asks when HDD to boot ? | 13:46 |
| ^aDaM | Only when the USB HDD is turned on an active before turning the PC on. | 13:47 |
| StevenR_ | penguin42: annoyingly, the logs have rotated out now. No more evidence to prove/disprove your theory | 14:04 |
| penguin42 | StevenR_: Just add a comment next time you manage to tie a couple down; ideally you want ones that have nothing in the taint markers - i.e. are the first crash for that boot | 14:06 |
| StevenR_ | penguin42: as far as I can tell though, each crash is fatal for the box and requires a reboot | 14:06 |
| StevenR_ | (based on what Dad has told me) | 14:07 |
| penguin42 | StevenR_: Well he wouldn't necessarily see anything else going into the logs after it goes bad | 14:07 |
| StevenR_ | I don't understand what you mean there | 14:08 |
| penguin42 | StevenR_: You might get a few oops recorded in the log every time it apparently crashes - the 2nd ones may just be fall out from the 1st | 14:09 |
| StevenR_ | I see. I can discount those because there won't be a reboot between them and the previous | 14:10 |
| StevenR_ | ? | 14:10 |
| penguin42 | yeh and also perhaps if it says 'Tainted' in the oops then it's generally something bad happened | 14:10 |
| penguin42 | (* unless it's tainting for another reason) | 14:10 |
| brobostigon | beer fest at local visit, :) | 14:23 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Hey all got a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.10 running via my External USB Hard Drive, can I now update via the internet to the latest version or would I have to upgrade one-by-one to the latest? | 14:26 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Just gone on to Update Manager and says I can upgrade to 9.04!! shell i update and keep doing so untill I get to the latest? | 14:27 |
| Myrtti | why did you install 8.10? | 14:27 |
| Myrtti | couldn't get others to install? | 14:28 |
| Myrtti | (reading backlog now) | 14:28 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Says now when I upgrade, "Could not download all repository indexes" | 14:28 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 14:28 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Well I have no blank discs or any way of booting the new latest distro due to problems bootin via usb etc... | 14:29 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: you have to go the slow way around until 10.04, then you can go to 12.04 in one go | 14:29 |
| MartijnVdS | if only you had started out with 8.04 ;) | 14:29 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | awww :( this sucks lol I need latest version help... | 14:30 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Can I not boot via my USB HDD and install on it to | 14:30 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: so upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 to 12.04 | 14:30 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: the EOLUpgrades page tells you how to adjust sources.list for upgrades to work | 14:31 |
| StevenR_ | penguin42: thanks for looking at that bug, I'll speak to Dad and see if he can run with the faulty kernel for a couple of days and get some more info | 14:31 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | so I can do this now from 8.10? | 14:31 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Can anyone help us do it please | 14:32 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: yes, that page lists how to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 | 14:33 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: and all the others I listed | 14:33 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: it's just going to take a while | 14:33 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 14:33 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Thanks ever so much martin will give this a go :) ah well coffee it is then an its the ony way for me im cheap and wont buy 1 single blank cdr lol | 14:34 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: at least you won't be bored tonight ;) | 14:34 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | How lon ruffly will it take? | 14:35 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: how fast is your internet connection? | 14:35 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | haha yeah I sure wont | 14:36 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Its 6mbits adsl with talktalk not the best | 14:36 |
| MartijnVdS | I'd say 30 minutes to an hour per version | 14:36 |
| MartijnVdS | make that 1-1.5 hours at that speed :) | 14:36 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | cool :) | 14:36 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | lol great : | 14:36 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | I have found a better way ;) takes less time and its a quick 2, 3 stage processe :) | 14:46 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Since I am having issues booting via my USB Device Stick I am going to use USBNetBootin | 14:48 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Boot from my USB HDD and install fresh latest ;) | 14:48 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Wish me luck! x | 14:48 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Ok so my USB HDD now has Unbuntu 12.04 on there ready for booting :) using Linux Live USB Creator. | 15:07 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 15:08 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | I can do a 100% install on this USB HDD right using LL USB Creator? My primary master internal hdd is on Windows XP that I am on now doing the copying. | 15:08 |
| kvarley | How can I insert a space with tr? \s and ' ' don't work | 15:09 |
| brobostigon | some good beers there, very enjoyable, :) | 15:10 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | So I just got a error when booting: http://i47.tinypic.com/2a62n9j.jpg | 15:13 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | :( | 15:13 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: is that booting the USB disk, or the destination system? | 15:14 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | What have I done wront I dont get it the USB HDD is formatted then did linux live | 15:14 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | its booting my USB HDD | 15:14 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | External Hard Drie | 15:14 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Drive | 15:14 |
| MartijnVdS | then unetbootin/usb-creator-gtk didn't write a proper boot sector | 15:15 |
| MartijnVdS | because afaik that uses syslinux, not grub? | 15:15 |
| MartijnVdS | so.. are you sure you're booting from USB? | 15:15 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Not a USB sticm or pen drive a USB powered Har Drive external lacie maxtor 250gb brick that was frmatted | 15:15 |
| MartijnVdS | that shouldn't be a problem | 15:16 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | ah i see ok so what do i use for tbat grub?? | 15:16 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | unetbootin wont work | 15:16 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: it won't? why? what does it say? | 15:16 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Will find out now.. | 15:19 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: you pointed me at iptraf the other day, is there something similer for ipv6? | 15:20 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: iptraf can show v6 as well | 15:20 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: hmm, i havent seen it in its man pages. | 15:20 |
| MartijnVdS | iftop maybe? | 15:20 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: if you go to the "stream" views, it shows both v4 and v6 connections | 15:21 |
| MartijnVdS | as long as you have those, of course ;) | 15:21 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: i do yes, ok, let me try that out. | 15:21 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Oomggg boots dkkkd man | 15:22 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: keep calm and carry on :P | 15:22 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | cant acess anything says grub error 21 | 15:22 |
| MartijnVdS | "Selected disk does not exist" | 15:22 |
| MartijnVdS | = error 21 | 15:22 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | even with the exeternal usb disconnect im fkd no back up of anyhimg | 15:22 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | cant get on windows how do i get rid of grub | 15:23 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | wifes gonna kill me lol | 15:23 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: boot into an Ubuntu installer | 15:24 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: we can fix it from there | 15:24 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | aww i hope so :( how do i boot into ubuntu installer im no good at this | 15:25 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: you said you'd installed 8.10 earlier | 15:25 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | yes via genuine disc | 15:26 |
| MartijnVdS | Start from that, but don't start installing | 15:26 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | ok so booting | 15:26 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | ok | 15:26 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows | 15:27 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: you didn't install windows after Ubuntu, but the basic principle is the same | 15:27 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: also.. irony. It's World Backup Day | 15:28 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | hope this works | 15:29 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Just booted typed in rescue will windows be there still? | 15:30 |
| MartijnVdS | yes, rescue won't remove Windows | 15:30 |
| MartijnVdS | unless you removed it earlier.. | 15:30 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Noni and ok cool :) thanks man | 15:31 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Im stuck here now MartijnVdS :( | 15:35 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | http://i46.tinypic.com/35bxaoh.jpg | 15:35 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Thts my windows drive i disconnect my usb hdd | 15:35 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | shell i have this connect | 15:35 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | as thats what u utiband linux libe is on | 15:36 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: your screen is sideways | 15:36 |
| MartijnVdS | I don't know.. that's not the rescue screen | 15:37 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | lmaoo as u sai that MartijnVdS i noticed i have my iphone upside down lmao | 15:37 |
| MartijnVdS | that's the re-partitioning screen | 15:37 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | oh right | 15:37 |
| MartijnVdS | and that one IS scary and can delete stuff | 15:37 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | ah see | 15:37 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | yh ano lol | 15:37 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | oh no | 15:37 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | reboot fimd | 15:37 |
| MartijnVdS | fimd? | 15:38 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | time | 15:38 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | So ok boot my 8.10 unbuntu disc now... | 15:38 |
| MartijnVdS | this wasn't your 8.10 disc? | 15:38 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | I have on screen Install ubuntu etc | 15:39 |
| * brobostigon does seperate ipv4/ipv6 network diagrams to work it out. | 15:39 | |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | This is 8.10 i have no later | 15:39 |
| kvarley | Easiest way to remove the last character of a string? | 15:40 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: the prototypical XY problem :) | 15:40 |
| kvarley | Got it lol | 15:40 |
| kvarley | MartijnVdS: I'm always asking XY problems ;) | 15:40 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: I noticed ;) | 15:41 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | Im screwed | 15:41 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-iPhone: you could buy some empty CDs and burn a recent Ubuntu | 15:42 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | No i need my windows back i hve lots of info on there i need | 15:43 |
| ^aDaM-iPhone | this grubs in my way stoppin windows to load | 15:43 |
| dogmatic69_ | MartijnVdS: all working now, thanks http://awesomescreenshot.com/08e141q56d | 15:46 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69_: woo :) | 15:46 |
| * MartijnVdS uses collectd now | 15:46 | |
| dogmatic69_ | managed to get a custom fpm monitor also | 15:46 |
| dogmatic69_ | MartijnVdS: link? google is not helping for 'collected' | 15:47 |
| MartijnVdS | dogmatic69_: http://collectd.org/ | 15:47 |
| dogmatic69_ | tx | 15:48 |
| MartijnVdS | I run it on my Pi | 15:51 |
| brobostigon | :) | 15:51 |
| brobostigon | iftop is definatly closer, :) | 15:51 |
| kvarley | Is there a way I can view line endings in terminal? | 15:55 |
| kvarley | I want to see whether my string is ending with a space or a \n | 15:55 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: what do you want to do, really? | 15:55 |
| kvarley | I've got a string that is a comma separated list and I want to remove the last comma. The string finishes with ", " | 15:56 |
| kvarley | This is in bash btw | 15:57 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: sed -e 's/, +//' | 15:57 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: sed -e 's/, *//' actually.. zero or more spaces | 15:57 |
| kvarley | MartijnVdS: Not working, I'm not sure why | 15:59 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: maybe you need -r in there as well (sed -r -e) | 15:59 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: maybe the trailing char is a tab? | 15:59 |
| MartijnVdS | sed -r -e 's/,\s*$//' | 16:00 |
| MartijnVdS | try that | 16:00 |
| brobostigon | this is one sad day, when galaxy quest is the best thing on tv. | 16:00 |
| kvarley | MartijnVdS: \0/ | 16:01 |
| kvarley | MartijnVdS: Thanks for that. Why did that work and not the other? | 16:01 |
| kvarley | MartijnVdS: Can I use that snippet in a project? It will be MIT licensed. | 16:02 |
| === dogmatic69_ is now known as do | ||
| === do is now known as dogmatic69 | ||
| brobostigon | it is definatly weird looking at ipv6 addr's, with port numbers hooked on, :) | 16:12 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: [they:should:look:like]:this | 16:12 |
| MartijnVdS | the [] part make it easier to distinguish :) | 16:12 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: quite, yes, i had to look twice, to make sure. | 16:13 |
| MartijnVdS | what.. Galaxy Quest on BBC Two and nobody told me? :) | 16:14 |
| brobostigon | it is funny, but as i said earlier, it is sad, when that is the only thing on. | 16:15 |
| kvarley | Anybody know if the Nexus 10 will be getting the full Ubuntu Touch OS experience? (As in running fully Unity when you plug into a monitor with keyboard + mouse?) | 16:21 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: if anyone knows, it's popey | 16:21 |
| kvarley | MartijnVdS: I think the specs were 2GB RAM minimum so it might scrape in there | 16:22 |
| kvarley | Does flashing Ubuntu void your warranty? AFAIK the Nexus 10 doesn't have a locked bootloader | 16:23 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: I think European rules say no.. but I'd assume yes | 16:24 |
| kvarley | MartijnVdS: Any ideas where the changelogs are for the daily ubuntu touch preview images? | 16:26 |
| kvarley | Sorry, didn't mean to add your name to that message | 16:27 |
| kvarley | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/ has a changelog with nothing useful in it | 16:27 |
| MartijnVdS | kvarley: isn't there a mailing list where every package upload is sent? | 16:35 |
| dutchie | oxford \o/ | 16:48 |
| darrell09thomas | can anyone help how i can make ubuntu 12.10 run faster my laptop is a acer aspire 5536 4Gb ram 1TB hdd | 17:18 |
| darrell09thomas | anyone online | 17:20 |
| moreati | darrell09thomas: be specific, in what way is it slow? | 17:22 |
| moreati | oh | 17:22 |
| ^aDaM-desktop | lo all :) | 17:27 |
| ^aDaM-desktop | back again! | 17:27 |
| MartijnVdS | ^aDaM-desktop: fixed it then? | 17:27 |
| popey | evening | 18:51 |
| brobostigon | eveing popey-ness. | 18:51 |
| mungbean | http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/nurvo-android-4-ice-cream-sandwich-hdmi-tv-stick-1080p-full-hd-wi-fi-usb-22-98-ebay-1515727 | 18:52 |
| mungbean | in case anyone interestd | 18:52 |
| popey | HD decode _and_ encode.. interesting | 18:53 |
| popey | mungbean: tempted to get one for the bedroom telly | 19:06 |
| popey | would need a remote tho | 19:06 |
| ali1234 | how legit is play.com? | 19:11 |
| popey | i have bought from them before | 19:12 |
| popey | their marketplace is somewhat full of suspect stuff tho | 19:12 |
| popey | i think they shutdown their own store and are only marketplace now? | 19:12 |
| ali1234 | yes | 19:12 |
| kvarley | I've only ever bought from play when they sold stuff | 19:13 |
| mungbean | play changed | 19:14 |
| mungbean | they stopped being a real retailer and now just junky marketplace stuff | 19:15 |
| mungbean | oh, that just got said. | 19:15 |
| mungbean | woops | 19:15 |
| mungbean | popey: NO HDMI on my telly :( | 19:15 |
| mungbean | would be an expensive gadget if i got a telly with it | 19:15 |
| mungbean | i wonder why shotwell doesn't always hide already imported photos | 19:16 |
| popey | i filed a bug about that | 19:17 |
| mungbean | i still have to use picasa to do stuff, because of lack of effects, its a shame | 19:18 |
| popey | bug 708375 | 19:18 |
| mungbean | shotwell could be awesome | 19:18 |
| lubotu3 | bug 708375 in shotwell (Ubuntu) "Shotwell doesn't remember "Hide photos already imported" tickbox" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708375 | 19:18 |
| popey | gosh, 2 years ago | 19:18 |
| popey | time flies | 19:18 |
| SuperMatt | yorba have mroe important things to be doing now | 19:19 |
| SuperMatt | cripes, I don't think they're going to make their target | 19:20 |
| popey | the fact that it is on indiegogo and not kickstarter doesnt help | 19:22 |
| penguin42 | so, anyone know anything better than gucview for capturing video - ideally that can time stamp | 19:23 |
| kvarley | penguin42: ffmpeg? | 19:24 |
| penguin42 | preferably with a gui that I can tweek the setting sto get the contract ? | 19:25 |
| kvarley | penguin42: is this for cctv? | 19:28 |
| penguin42 | this is for boiler watching! | 19:28 |
| kvarley | so...yes? | 19:29 |
| kvarley | ZoneMinder can do what you want but it's probably overkill | 19:29 |
| penguin42 | ooh, never tried that | 19:29 |
| penguin42 | my problem is really trying to monitor it while I'm in the shower to see why it's going cold! | 19:30 |
| penguin42 | http://imagebin.org/252343 | 19:30 |
| mungbean | i hope that not a pic of u in the shoqwer | 19:35 |
| penguin42 | no; the boiler :-) | 19:35 |
| mungbean | thats a mean thing to call the missis | 19:36 |
| SuperMatt | penguin42: just a suggestion, but rather than timestamp the video, could you not just set a watch down next to it? then you can use anything to record it. | 19:36 |
| penguin42 | kvarley: Given what zoneminder has just installed, yes - it is overkill for my poor little netbook | 19:36 |
| penguin42 | SuperMatt: Ooh, I like it - technology! | 19:37 |
| mungbean | i use motion | 19:37 |
| mungbean | very simple config and install | 19:37 |
| penguin42 | mungbean: How do you tweak the camera settings | 19:40 |
| mungbean | nappy explosion, back in a bit | 19:42 |
| * penguin42 hands mungbean the firehose | 19:43 | |
| mungbean | sounded like a pooback | 19:44 |
| penguin42 | zoneminder doesn't seem to want to display an image | 19:59 |
| * penguin42 is seeing what appears to be bug 1159361 | 20:05 | |
| lubotu3 | bug 1159361 in zoneminder (Ubuntu) "zoneminder not creating local unix sockets for streaming" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1159361 | 20:05 |
| mungbean | penguin42: sent u my config file for motion | 20:11 |
| mungbean | just apt get motion, use a similar config, and run it | 20:12 |
| penguin42 | mungbean: Thanks; I like the fact it can do the text | 20:12 |
| mungbean | you can stream on 8081 or record motion | 20:18 |
| penguin42 | ah, now that is working | 20:25 |
| penguin42 | well streaming with text overlay, but not recording yet | 20:28 |
| penguin42 | right, as long as it isn't going to have file size problems that should work | 20:46 |
| penguin42 | mungbean: Thanks! | 20:47 |
| mungbean | np | 20:48 |
| penguin42 | mungbean: Now a bit of OCR and graphing I could monitor this boiler - I need some proper lighting though - it's a non-backlit LCD and a cheap asda webcam - so some limits | 20:49 |
| === JethroTroll is now known as RaycisCharles | ||
| mungbean | penguin42: you could always turn on the shower and not get in, but watch theboiler instead | 21:01 |
| penguin42 | mungbean: The problem is it doesn't always do it | 21:01 |
| penguin42 | and sods law says now I have this setup it won't - but we'll see | 21:02 |
| mungbean | cheap fix | 21:02 |
| mungbean | having another torrid night with the newborn :) | 21:03 |
| mungbean | :( | 21:03 |
| mungbean | wind pains i guess | 21:03 |
| directhex | a | 21:06 |
| directhex | a | 21:06 |
| directhex | a | 21:06 |
| directhex | a | 21:06 |
| directhex | a | 21:06 |
| directhex | a | 21:06 |
| directhex | sorry, had to get that goddamn coloured global notice off my screen | 21:06 |
| mungbean | ? | 21:07 |
| mungbean | didny see it | 21:08 |
| mungbean | ah, its on my alt-1 page | 21:09 |
| mungbean | hideous | 21:10 |
| popey | wat | 21:14 |
| popey | has richih been hacked? | 21:14 |
| mungbean | who are these people who sells books retailing at £10-15 at £86.98 on amazon/ebay? | 21:15 |
| Myrtti | popey: no? | 21:15 |
| popey | just the very odd social engagement | 21:15 |
| popey | mungbean: bots probably | 21:15 |
| Myrtti | amazon did hike up their fees... | 21:16 |
| mungbean | i see it a lot, but why? in case someone is desperate, or they list a huge amount of books and make mistakes? | 21:16 |
| mungbean | when a book is in print and they try to sell at 8*RRP | 21:17 |
| mungbean | never get good deals on everyday items via ebay anymore, more likely via local page on facebook | 21:19 |
| penguin42 | it's really annoying that when you set monitoring up like that it all works perfectly | 22:14 |
| penguin42 | so I'm about to start learning Python; is there anything I should be careful of | 22:25 |
| mungbean | which versuin | 22:29 |
| penguin42 | yeh that's what I wondered, is it best to start with the current version and then learn what not to do in the older one? | 22:30 |
| mungbean | is this enigma prog on bbc now any good or will it annoy me | 22:30 |
| mungbean | th4eres lots of free books | 22:31 |
| * penguin42 was going to follow the tutorial on python.org | 22:31 | |
| mungbean | learn python hard way, dive inyo python | 22:31 |
| mungbean | are both ok toi | 22:31 |
| penguin42 | yeh, I've got a project to do | 22:31 |
| graingert | penguin42: what's the project? | 22:36 |
| penguin42 | graingert: I'm playing with opencv, and have extracted some face data from all the images in my webcache; now I want to create a waiting between images to feed into a graph viewer like Gephi | 22:37 |
| graingert | you should probably ask in #python | 22:38 |
| penguin42 | oh they must get annoyed at the 'hey I want to learn python' type q - I'll see how I go | 22:38 |
| shauno | completely OT, but doesn't look like I'm gonna be interupting anyone .. google maps is interesting today :) | 23:42 |
| penguin42 | shauno: oh nice, I'd only noticed google nose | 23:45 |
| mungbean | wondering whay the minimum i need to do to setup my eee pc as a kindle | 23:49 |
| mungbean | ;ightweight wm + debian + wine? | 23:50 |
| penguin42 | oh you mean actually a kindle kindle as opposed to a reader of other types of stuff | 23:50 |
| mungbean | yeah | 23:51 |
| mungbean | although other suggestuibs welcomr | 23:51 |
| mungbean | argh typing] | 23:51 |
| mungbean | most book im currently readinmg are in kidle land until i free them | 23:52 |
| mungbean | but sync is helpful atm | 23:52 |
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