[00:07] mungbean: in London? [00:11] BigRedS: yes, the one in hendon [00:18] ooh, what's changed? I go there relatively frequently [00:18] A good friend used to work there, but I've now lost track of what happens and just turn up from time to time [00:18] history of flight hall has gloster meteor and a different sopwith in there [00:19] the me109 has moved [00:19] judging by friend on fb photos [00:19] not sure what else changed [00:19] aha, detective work! [00:24] Manchester science museum has a fairly nice flight hall [00:27] hmm, on oxford road? [00:29] i studied in the maths tower(now demoloished) which was opposite, but only recall the egyptology stuff and the early gospel fragments , but that was 20 yrs ago now [00:30] ah, no the Science Museum on Deansgate [00:30] ah ok [00:31] didn't venture that far often [00:31] mungbean: When were you there? [00:31] 93-96 [00:31] mungbean: Oh I was doing my postgrad then [00:32] aka the good old days [00:33] what in, penguin42 ? [00:33] CS [00:33] i was maths/cs undegrad [00:33] oh, if you did any of the 1st year electronic courses I might have Demo'd to you then [00:34] don't think i did [00:34] lived in fallowfield? [00:34] nah, I lived on the north side with family [00:34] mungbean: Maths tower is long gone; it's now https://plus.google.com/photos/118251468822440261663/albums/5323474428500984577/5323477385642443922 [00:41] quite a difference! [00:45] yep, they even built it the right way around [00:46] but what would i chain my bike to:? [00:46] depressing to think its almost 2am [00:46] I think they put some down the side between the scan building and the cs [06:33] hey everyone [06:45] Goeiemorgen :) [06:56] hey martijn ! [06:56] hoe gaat ie [07:57] hello all [08:28] hey everyone [08:36] hello knightwise [08:40] hmm [08:40] Only "ufraw" in raring is up to date enough to be able to work with 6D raw files [08:40] rawtherapee's internal dcraw copy is too old :( [08:41] *shakes fist* [08:42] I've had to stick with photoshop for raw, don't like ufraw or rawtherapee or darktables :( [08:42] MooDoo: I don't understand how darktable works.. I can't get it to save out a .jpg [08:43] MartijnVdS: thats another reason i'm using photoshop lo [08:43] MooDoo: rawtherapee and ufraw are fine.. all I do is crop, rotate a little, and fix colours :) [08:45] my brother is the photoshop wizard :) [08:45] lI'm using it now :) [09:02] Spring forward [09:10] indeed [09:13] How can I output just the package name and dependencies with aptitude. I can't see a depends flag on this help page: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s04s01.html#secDisplayFormat [09:19] kvarley: apt-rdepends? [09:20] or what about apt-cache depends [09:22] Thanks MooDoo [09:25] good morning everyone, [09:26] boo! [09:26] morning SuperEngineer [09:28] morninks [09:28] * SuperEngineer spent last night watching Dr. Who - then playing Amnesia [The Dark Descent]... [09:29] SuperEngineer: now watch the "Blink" episode ;) [09:29] ..& finding out that headphones no longer work on anything being out to by PC [09:30] MartijnVdS: the "Blink" episode? [09:31] * SuperEngineer also found out that Anmesia, which was £3.95 on Friday is already back up to full price [09:31] made I laugh! [09:32] ;) [09:36] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink_(Doctor_Who) [09:41] MartijnVdS: ah... the Weeeping Angels... I remember that one. [09:43] that was an episode extraordinaire ! [09:44] Whatever you do, don't even blink! [09:45] MartijnVdS: did you watch the game against Romania? Van Persie finally surpassed Cruyff. [09:54] In fact, the phtrase "whatever you do, don't close your eyes... don't even blink" applied to the whole UK last night [09:54] .... they stole an hour from ius whilst we blinked or slept [09:55] Actually, I was awake at 00:59. [09:55] but they hadn't stolen the hour then! [09:56] I was like, "wtf, my tablet's time is fucked. Oh wait...the evil NWO/Reptilian/ZOG DST conspiracy." [09:56] apparently that happen at 2am [09:56] is it 2? thought it was 1am [09:56] [which means ya tablets got a naff time mngr btw [09:56] No it doesn't... [09:56] It means it follows the goddamn time specification for DST. [09:57] MooDoo: yes 1 becoame 2 ;) [09:57] The time is supposed to change from 00:59 to 02:00. [09:57] And it -did-. [09:58] we all blinked! look what happened! [09:58] Don't blame the blinking - blame the NWO and their army of Time Nazis. [09:58] [can be very disconcerting after playing Amnesia all night] [09:59] GentileBen: you - are - no - fun [10:00] * SuperEngineer sides with Timelord optoin - not the other [10:00] *option [10:02] Time Nazis... that's the perfect name for the badguys in my game, Don't Forget Your Duty To Vietnam While Honouring Your Medals In 1942 [10:02] * SuperEngineer puts gun to head [10:03] KrimZon, sounds like a potential AAA game. [10:03] Make sure you add lean support. [10:03] It's important I can lean from behind fat Viet people in that game. [10:06] it will feature realistic rendering features such as Filled Polygon Graphics [10:06] and support Duck And Cover mechanics [10:07] press X and your soldier crouches down and hides under a blanket [10:11] Will it feature real-time...weapon change? [10:19] * SuperEngineer is proud that Ubuntu copes with all my connections [nVidia card goes to a KVM switch used in reverse, to the 5.1 sound system, HDMI to the TV] [10:20] ....but annoyed that he can't find reason for headphone death [phones checked and working] [10:21] ...the answer eludes me for now... but I have faith ;) [10:21] * SuperEngineer keeps hunting through various optons [10:22] *options [10:42] Morning [10:44] morning === dummy-bot is now known as dummy-sen [10:50] * SuperEngineer wites note to self... "next time, get a theatre sound system with a damn headphone socket!" [11:05] * daubers sets up squid to break his reddit habit [11:15] :) set me one up as well for facebook, google+ twiiter and any work url :) [11:15] afternoon all [11:15] dad has been getting GPU lockups on 12.04 recently [11:16] wonder if an upgrade to 12.10 would make a difference [11:19] hello AlanBell [11:19] hi [11:19] only one way to try it AlanBell :) [11:23] yeah, upgrading it now [11:23] should take a few hours [11:25] 12.04 is lts isn't it? [11:25] ignore that [11:39] it is [11:39] so I kind of suspect the hardware is failing [11:41] boo :( [11:43] * SuperEngineer smiles smugly at remembering to do weekly [off disk] backup despite it being Easter [11:44] that reminds me, i must take my offsite backup disk OFFSITE lol [11:44] MooDoo: agreed :D [11:46] huh, yeuch remembered what I have to do today - set up a camera to watch my boilers status display; anyone know of a good flexible video recorder prog that can record off webcam - I think I'll probably make it record over sshfs [11:47] penguin42: GUVCViewer ? [11:50] penguin42: sorry make that guvcview lol [11:50] hmm thanks, I'll look it up [11:50] it's one of the two and should be availble in the repos [11:51] I could do with getting some temperature sensors to wire up and record at the same time [11:54] anyone know how I can have cacti reporting (server is at home) for a cloud server? [11:54] I think I need something like ssh tunnel but not sure how to do it securely [11:55] They have this how to http://docs.cacti.net/howto:ssh_tunnels_unix [11:56] I dont have 3 server/pc's though [12:12] hasn't looked at cacti for years [12:13] I think I got a new tutorial to follow [12:13] seems to make more sense so far [12:13] dogmatic69_: Right, have you done ssh port forwarding before? [12:13] nope [12:13] I am following this one now http://www.playingwithwire.com/2007/06/monitoring-remote-hosts-with-cacti/ [12:14] ok, try ssh forwarding with something simpler first - it's actually really useful [12:14] I have read many times how awesome it is :D [12:17] With this command: ssh -N -L 16000:127.0.0.1:161 snmp@server1.xyz.net [12:17] Does that mean localhost:16000 is really server1.xyz.net? [12:19] that means that when you connect to localhost:16000, it'll put you through to whatever server1.xyz.net thinks "port 161 of 127.0.0.1" means ;) [12:19] k [12:19] how do you 'stop' a tunnel? [12:20] kill the ssh connection, or using ~C [12:20] (see ssh manpage) [12:20] its started with & so I guess in htop will work [12:20] ~# lists forwarded connections [12:20] kill the "Ssh" process, that should do it [12:21] Afternoon peeps :) [12:21] bigcalm[mob]: you're the mob now? [12:21] Hehe [12:22] I'm on my mob. Visiting Hayley's parents for Easter lunch. There are 14 of us here [12:22] MartijnVdS: would that not kill all ssh connections to? [12:22] dogmatic69_: only if you have multiplexing turned on :) [12:23] :O [12:23] idk what that is even [12:23] dogmatic69_: you should kill the ssh that you used to set up the tunnel [12:23] killall -9 ssh ? [12:23] bigcalm[mob]: nah, that kills ALL ssh clients [12:23] it's the nuclear option :) [12:23] if you started it with "&" "jobs" should show it [12:24] Sorry, I've walked in to a conversation part way through [12:24] as in 'jobs' is a terminal command? [12:24] and kill %X should kill it (X = number of job.. so kill %3 if it's listed as the third job" [12:24] dogmatic69_: sí [12:24] ah. so its not running then... [12:24] :/ [12:24] dogmatic69_: don't ssh & [12:25] you'll want ssh -f if you really want backgrounding (because of the password prompts etc.) [12:25] man ssh \o/ [12:26] MartijnVdS: well i will use a pwdless key for login [12:26] sure but still :) [12:26] its just for cacti [12:26] dogmatic69_: read the docs for "-f", it's really cool [12:27] ah, seems smart. [12:28] so that will wait for anything and once logged in disappear [12:28] yes [12:29] hmm, think its working now [12:29] jobs still empty though. [12:30] snmpwalk -v 1 -c public tcp:localhost:16000 shows data so I assume the tunnel is working [12:30] \o/ [12:31] unless I looped the ssh back to localhost somehow :D [12:32] dogmatic69_: look for the hostname in SNMP output :) [12:33] MartijnVdS: its correct \o/ [12:34] thanks. Trying to add it on cacti now [12:34] ohhh [12:44] dogmatic69_: As for security, ssh tunnelling is pretty good - just make sure you know what lets you go where [12:53] Urgent request: running out of things to do to avoid firing up works laptop & reading emails & installing tech stuff.... help! [12:53] youtube! [12:53] phew! [12:53] reddit.com [12:53] thanks penguin42 [12:54] SuperEngineer: You do have a Raring install to test don't you? [12:54] ooo... life is looking better already ;) [13:09] you should try accidentally leaving the work laptop at work sometimes. it's fantastic :) [13:12] and completely OT, this gem from irishrail .. Don't forget the clocks have gone back so check your time before you travel [13:12] explains a lot [13:25] shauno: my office is unfortunately my home & I travel to customer locations around UK - so the trouble is - I did as you suugested ;) [13:27] penguin42: re: our conversation last weekend on my parents crashing box with 3.2.0-39, here's the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1160582 [13:27] Ubuntu bug 1160582 in linux (Ubuntu) "Crash using 3.2.0-39-generic" [High,Confirmed] [13:27] but don't worry - I'm currently very busy doing as others have suggested [plus, just realised, Madagacar is on TV] :D [13:28] StevenR_: Huh erm only vaguely remember [13:28] *Madagascar [13:30] StevenR_: I don't see the backtrace in any of the logs attached [13:31] penguin42: WifiSyslog.txt ? [13:31] oh - hadn't thought it was a wifi specific [13:31] penguin42: it isn't. The box doesn't even have wifi [13:32] penguin42: I don't know why ubuntu-bug named /var/log/syslog to wifisyslog.txt [13:34] StevenR_: So there are a few separate oops in there - I think the irqbalance one is the first in that boot [13:36] StevenR_: How often do these happen? [13:36] several times per day [13:38] penguin42: 3-4 times, looking at my mail history [13:38] StevenR_: OK, time to gather a few of the oops messages, in particular try and see if they are similar each time or different; I've just added a comment showing the two I extracted from your logs - if the 1st one on each boot is always the irqbalance then that narrows it down a bit [13:38] upto 10 times [13:39] (the box sends me a mail on boot) [13:39] if they're different every time....well life gets hard [13:40] ok, I'll go and pull the logs and see [13:42] <^aDaM> Anyone know if 8.10 will still work? I have it on disc here Desk Edition 32Bit. [13:43] <^aDaM> But when I installed inside windows via Windows Desktop [13:43] <^aDaM> and rebooted it.. it came to the loading bar of Ubuntu start up.. [13:43] <^aDaM> and got stuck half way :/ [13:43] well it won't self destruct - but it's not maintained, and may not work on recent hardware/VM [13:43] <^aDaM> Whys that? I have disc space. [13:43] well new hardware may do new tricks (as might new windows) and it might be that there has to be added support for it - use a recent Ubuntu [13:44] <^aDaM> Yes true say, I have 8.10 :( no copie of latest.. [13:44] <^aDaM> I need blank discs. [13:44] got a USB thumb drive? [13:44] <^aDaM> Is there any other ways?? [13:44] <^aDaM> Yes I have USB HDD Maxtor 250GB LaCiE Brick. [13:45] <^aDaM> Current has a few photo's [13:45] do you have a completely spare one - that you can wipe? [13:45] <^aDaM> Yes. [13:45] <^aDaM> USB HDD :) [13:45] hmm ok, never done it with a big brick; with a little USB flash drive you can put the Ubuntu image onto there and boot from it (see the install instructions for how) [13:46] <^aDaM> I have tried that loads :( UNetBootin, LinuxLiveUSB etc.. [13:46] <^aDaM> I can't seem to get it to boot via USB has errors [13:46] <^aDaM> Can I boot and do a fresh install on my HDD? so when I boot it asks when HDD to boot ? [13:47] <^aDaM> Only when the USB HDD is turned on an active before turning the PC on. [14:04] penguin42: annoyingly, the logs have rotated out now. No more evidence to prove/disprove your theory [14:06] StevenR_: Just add a comment next time you manage to tie a couple down; ideally you want ones that have nothing in the taint markers - i.e. are the first crash for that boot [14:06] penguin42: as far as I can tell though, each crash is fatal for the box and requires a reboot [14:07] (based on what Dad has told me) [14:07] StevenR_: Well he wouldn't necessarily see anything else going into the logs after it goes bad [14:08] I don't understand what you mean there [14:09] StevenR_: You might get a few oops recorded in the log every time it apparently crashes - the 2nd ones may just be fall out from the 1st [14:10] I see. I can discount those because there won't be a reboot between them and the previous [14:10] ? [14:10] yeh and also perhaps if it says 'Tainted' in the oops then it's generally something bad happened [14:10] (* unless it's tainting for another reason) [14:23] beer fest at local visit, :) [14:26] <^aDaM-iPhone> Hey all got a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.10 running via my External USB Hard Drive, can I now update via the internet to the latest version or would I have to upgrade one-by-one to the latest? [14:27] <^aDaM-iPhone> Just gone on to Update Manager and says I can upgrade to 9.04!! shell i update and keep doing so untill I get to the latest? [14:27] why did you install 8.10? [14:28] couldn't get others to install? [14:28] (reading backlog now) [14:28] <^aDaM-iPhone> Says now when I upgrade, "Could not download all repository indexes" [14:28] ^aDaM-iPhone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [14:29] <^aDaM-iPhone> Well I have no blank discs or any way of booting the new latest distro due to problems bootin via usb etc... [14:29] ^aDaM-iPhone: you have to go the slow way around until 10.04, then you can go to 12.04 in one go [14:29] if only you had started out with 8.04 ;) [14:30] <^aDaM-iPhone> awww :( this sucks lol I need latest version help... [14:30] <^aDaM-iPhone> Can I not boot via my USB HDD and install on it to [14:30] ^aDaM-iPhone: so upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 to 12.04 [14:31] ^aDaM-iPhone: the EOLUpgrades page tells you how to adjust sources.list for upgrades to work [14:31] penguin42: thanks for looking at that bug, I'll speak to Dad and see if he can run with the faulty kernel for a couple of days and get some more info [14:31] <^aDaM-iPhone> so I can do this now from 8.10? [14:32] <^aDaM-iPhone> Can anyone help us do it please [14:33] ^aDaM-iPhone: yes, that page lists how to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 [14:33] ^aDaM-iPhone: and all the others I listed [14:33] ^aDaM-iPhone: it's just going to take a while [14:33] ^aDaM-iPhone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [14:34] <^aDaM-iPhone> Thanks ever so much martin will give this a go :) ah well coffee it is then an its the ony way for me im cheap and wont buy 1 single blank cdr lol [14:34] ^aDaM-iPhone: at least you won't be bored tonight ;) [14:35] <^aDaM-iPhone> How lon ruffly will it take? [14:35] ^aDaM-iPhone: how fast is your internet connection? [14:36] <^aDaM-iPhone> haha yeah I sure wont [14:36] <^aDaM-iPhone> Its 6mbits adsl with talktalk not the best [14:36] I'd say 30 minutes to an hour per version [14:36] make that 1-1.5 hours at that speed :) [14:36] <^aDaM-iPhone> cool :) [14:36] <^aDaM-iPhone> lol great : [14:46] <^aDaM-iPhone> I have found a better way ;) takes less time and its a quick 2, 3 stage processe :) [14:48] <^aDaM-iPhone> Since I am having issues booting via my USB Device Stick I am going to use USBNetBootin [14:48] <^aDaM-iPhone> Boot from my USB HDD and install fresh latest ;) [14:48] <^aDaM-iPhone> Wish me luck! x [15:07] <^aDaM-iPhone> Ok so my USB HDD now has Unbuntu 12.04 on there ready for booting :) using Linux Live USB Creator. [15:08] \o/ [15:08] <^aDaM-iPhone> I can do a 100% install on this USB HDD right using LL USB Creator? My primary master internal hdd is on Windows XP that I am on now doing the copying. [15:09] How can I insert a space with tr? \s and ' ' don't work [15:10] some good beers there, very enjoyable, :) [15:13] <^aDaM-iPhone> So I just got a error when booting: http://i47.tinypic.com/2a62n9j.jpg [15:13] <^aDaM-iPhone> :( [15:14] ^aDaM-iPhone: is that booting the USB disk, or the destination system? [15:14] <^aDaM-iPhone> What have I done wront I dont get it the USB HDD is formatted then did linux live [15:14] <^aDaM-iPhone> its booting my USB HDD [15:14] <^aDaM-iPhone> External Hard Drie [15:14] <^aDaM-iPhone> Drive [15:15] then unetbootin/usb-creator-gtk didn't write a proper boot sector [15:15] because afaik that uses syslinux, not grub? [15:15] so.. are you sure you're booting from USB? [15:15] <^aDaM-iPhone> Not a USB sticm or pen drive a USB powered Har Drive external lacie maxtor 250gb brick that was frmatted [15:16] that shouldn't be a problem [15:16] <^aDaM-iPhone> ah i see ok so what do i use for tbat grub?? [15:16] <^aDaM-iPhone> unetbootin wont work [15:16] ^aDaM-iPhone: it won't? why? what does it say? [15:19] <^aDaM-iPhone> Will find out now.. [15:20] MartijnVdS: you pointed me at iptraf the other day, is there something similer for ipv6? [15:20] brobostigon: iptraf can show v6 as well [15:20] MartijnVdS: hmm, i havent seen it in its man pages. [15:20] iftop maybe? [15:21] brobostigon: if you go to the "stream" views, it shows both v4 and v6 connections [15:21] as long as you have those, of course ;) [15:21] MartijnVdS: i do yes, ok, let me try that out. [15:22] <^aDaM-iPhone> Oomggg boots dkkkd man [15:22] ^aDaM-iPhone: keep calm and carry on :P [15:22] <^aDaM-iPhone> cant acess anything says grub error 21 [15:22] "Selected disk does not exist" [15:22] = error 21 [15:22] <^aDaM-iPhone> even with the exeternal usb disconnect im fkd no back up of anyhimg [15:23] <^aDaM-iPhone> cant get on windows how do i get rid of grub [15:23] <^aDaM-iPhone> wifes gonna kill me lol [15:24] ^aDaM-iPhone: boot into an Ubuntu installer [15:24] ^aDaM-iPhone: we can fix it from there [15:25] <^aDaM-iPhone> aww i hope so :( how do i boot into ubuntu installer im no good at this [15:25] ^aDaM-iPhone: you said you'd installed 8.10 earlier [15:26] <^aDaM-iPhone> yes via genuine disc [15:26] Start from that, but don't start installing [15:26] <^aDaM-iPhone> ok so booting [15:26] <^aDaM-iPhone> ok [15:27] ^aDaM-iPhone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [15:27] ^aDaM-iPhone: you didn't install windows after Ubuntu, but the basic principle is the same [15:28] ^aDaM-iPhone: also.. irony. It's World Backup Day [15:29] <^aDaM-iPhone> hope this works [15:30] <^aDaM-iPhone> Just booted typed in rescue will windows be there still? [15:30] yes, rescue won't remove Windows [15:30] unless you removed it earlier.. [15:31] <^aDaM-iPhone> Noni and ok cool :) thanks man [15:35] <^aDaM-iPhone> Im stuck here now MartijnVdS :( [15:35] <^aDaM-iPhone> http://i46.tinypic.com/35bxaoh.jpg [15:35] <^aDaM-iPhone> Thts my windows drive i disconnect my usb hdd [15:35] <^aDaM-iPhone> shell i have this connect [15:36] <^aDaM-iPhone> as thats what u utiband linux libe is on [15:36] ^aDaM-iPhone: your screen is sideways [15:37] I don't know.. that's not the rescue screen [15:37] <^aDaM-iPhone> lmaoo as u sai that MartijnVdS i noticed i have my iphone upside down lmao [15:37] that's the re-partitioning screen [15:37] <^aDaM-iPhone> oh right [15:37] and that one IS scary and can delete stuff [15:37] <^aDaM-iPhone> ah see [15:37] <^aDaM-iPhone> yh ano lol [15:37] <^aDaM-iPhone> oh no [15:37] <^aDaM-iPhone> reboot fimd [15:38] fimd? [15:38] <^aDaM-iPhone> time [15:38] <^aDaM-iPhone> So ok boot my 8.10 unbuntu disc now... [15:38] this wasn't your 8.10 disc? [15:39] <^aDaM-iPhone> I have on screen Install ubuntu etc [15:39] * brobostigon does seperate ipv4/ipv6 network diagrams to work it out. [15:39] <^aDaM-iPhone> This is 8.10 i have no later [15:40] Easiest way to remove the last character of a string? [15:40] kvarley: the prototypical XY problem :) [15:40] Got it lol [15:40] MartijnVdS: I'm always asking XY problems ;) [15:41] kvarley: I noticed ;) [15:41] <^aDaM-iPhone> Im screwed [15:42] ^aDaM-iPhone: you could buy some empty CDs and burn a recent Ubuntu [15:43] <^aDaM-iPhone> No i need my windows back i hve lots of info on there i need [15:43] <^aDaM-iPhone> this grubs in my way stoppin windows to load [15:46] MartijnVdS: all working now, thanks http://awesomescreenshot.com/08e141q56d [15:46] dogmatic69_: woo :) [15:46] * MartijnVdS uses collectd now [15:46] managed to get a custom fpm monitor also [15:47] MartijnVdS: link? google is not helping for 'collected' [15:47] dogmatic69_: http://collectd.org/ [15:48] tx [15:51] I run it on my Pi [15:51] :) [15:51] iftop is definatly closer, :) [15:55] Is there a way I can view line endings in terminal? [15:55] I want to see whether my string is ending with a space or a \n [15:55] kvarley: what do you want to do, really? [15:56] I've got a string that is a comma separated list and I want to remove the last comma. The string finishes with ", " [15:57] This is in bash btw [15:57] kvarley: sed -e 's/, +//' [15:57] kvarley: sed -e 's/, *//' actually.. zero or more spaces [15:59] MartijnVdS: Not working, I'm not sure why [15:59] kvarley: maybe you need -r in there as well (sed -r -e) [15:59] kvarley: maybe the trailing char is a tab? [16:00] sed -r -e 's/,\s*$//' [16:00] try that [16:00] this is one sad day, when galaxy quest is the best thing on tv. [16:01] MartijnVdS: \0/ [16:01] MartijnVdS: Thanks for that. Why did that work and not the other? [16:02] MartijnVdS: Can I use that snippet in a project? It will be MIT licensed. === dogmatic69_ is now known as do === do is now known as dogmatic69 [16:12] it is definatly weird looking at ipv6 addr's, with port numbers hooked on, :) [16:12] brobostigon: [they:should:look:like]:this [16:12] the [] part make it easier to distinguish :) [16:13] MartijnVdS: quite, yes, i had to look twice, to make sure. [16:14] what.. Galaxy Quest on BBC Two and nobody told me? :) [16:15] it is funny, but as i said earlier, it is sad, when that is the only thing on. [16:21] Anybody know if the Nexus 10 will be getting the full Ubuntu Touch OS experience? (As in running fully Unity when you plug into a monitor with keyboard + mouse?) [16:21] kvarley: if anyone knows, it's popey [16:22] MartijnVdS: I think the specs were 2GB RAM minimum so it might scrape in there [16:23] Does flashing Ubuntu void your warranty? AFAIK the Nexus 10 doesn't have a locked bootloader [16:24] kvarley: I think European rules say no.. but I'd assume yes [16:26] MartijnVdS: Any ideas where the changelogs are for the daily ubuntu touch preview images? [16:27] Sorry, didn't mean to add your name to that message [16:27] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/ has a changelog with nothing useful in it [16:35] kvarley: isn't there a mailing list where every package upload is sent? [16:48] oxford \o/ [17:18] can anyone help how i can make ubuntu 12.10 run faster my laptop is a acer aspire 5536 4Gb ram 1TB hdd [17:20] anyone online [17:22] darrell09thomas: be specific, in what way is it slow? [17:22] oh [17:27] <^aDaM-desktop> lo all :) [17:27] <^aDaM-desktop> back again! [17:27] ^aDaM-desktop: fixed it then? [18:51] evening [18:51] eveing popey-ness. [18:52] http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/nurvo-android-4-ice-cream-sandwich-hdmi-tv-stick-1080p-full-hd-wi-fi-usb-22-98-ebay-1515727 [18:52] in case anyone interestd [18:53] HD decode _and_ encode.. interesting [19:06] mungbean: tempted to get one for the bedroom telly [19:06] would need a remote tho [19:11] how legit is play.com? [19:12] i have bought from them before [19:12] their marketplace is somewhat full of suspect stuff tho [19:12] i think they shutdown their own store and are only marketplace now? [19:12] yes [19:13] I've only ever bought from play when they sold stuff [19:14] play changed [19:15] they stopped being a real retailer and now just junky marketplace stuff [19:15] oh, that just got said. [19:15] woops [19:15] popey: NO HDMI on my telly :( [19:15] would be an expensive gadget if i got a telly with it [19:16] i wonder why shotwell doesn't always hide already imported photos [19:17] i filed a bug about that [19:18] i still have to use picasa to do stuff, because of lack of effects, its a shame [19:18] bug 708375 [19:18] shotwell could be awesome [19:18] bug 708375 in shotwell (Ubuntu) "Shotwell doesn't remember "Hide photos already imported" tickbox" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708375 [19:18] gosh, 2 years ago [19:18] time flies [19:19] yorba have mroe important things to be doing now [19:20] cripes, I don't think they're going to make their target [19:22] the fact that it is on indiegogo and not kickstarter doesnt help [19:23] so, anyone know anything better than gucview for capturing video - ideally that can time stamp [19:24] penguin42: ffmpeg? [19:25] preferably with a gui that I can tweek the setting sto get the contract ? [19:28] penguin42: is this for cctv? [19:28] this is for boiler watching! [19:29] so...yes? [19:29] ZoneMinder can do what you want but it's probably overkill [19:29] ooh, never tried that [19:30] my problem is really trying to monitor it while I'm in the shower to see why it's going cold! [19:30] http://imagebin.org/252343 [19:35] i hope that not a pic of u in the shoqwer [19:35] no; the boiler :-) [19:36] thats a mean thing to call the missis [19:36] penguin42: just a suggestion, but rather than timestamp the video, could you not just set a watch down next to it? then you can use anything to record it. [19:36] kvarley: Given what zoneminder has just installed, yes - it is overkill for my poor little netbook [19:37] SuperMatt: Ooh, I like it - technology! [19:37] i use motion [19:37] very simple config and install [19:40] mungbean: How do you tweak the camera settings [19:42] nappy explosion, back in a bit [19:43] * penguin42 hands mungbean the firehose [19:44] sounded like a pooback [19:59] zoneminder doesn't seem to want to display an image [20:05] * penguin42 is seeing what appears to be bug 1159361 [20:05] bug 1159361 in zoneminder (Ubuntu) "zoneminder not creating local unix sockets for streaming" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1159361 [20:11] penguin42: sent u my config file for motion [20:12] just apt get motion, use a similar config, and run it [20:12] mungbean: Thanks; I like the fact it can do the text [20:18] you can stream on 8081 or record motion [20:25] ah, now that is working [20:28] well streaming with text overlay, but not recording yet [20:46] right, as long as it isn't going to have file size problems that should work [20:47] mungbean: Thanks! [20:48] np [20:49] mungbean: Now a bit of OCR and graphing I could monitor this boiler - I need some proper lighting though - it's a non-backlit LCD and a cheap asda webcam - so some limits === JethroTroll is now known as RaycisCharles [21:01] penguin42: you could always turn on the shower and not get in, but watch theboiler instead [21:01]