[00:15] Hello, is there a way to get pidgin tray icon back in 13.04? [00:17] minashokry: only the messaging menu in 13.04 [00:17] minashokry: I believe the option to have tray applets got removed [00:17] minashokry: once everyone stopped using java and skype added support for Indicators [00:18] graingert: but the tray icon is a critical feature to know who is talking while their chat windows are in background, what are alternatives? [00:19] minashokry: Indicator Applet [00:19] that works? [00:19] no? [00:19] which on exactly is the indicator-applet? the one with the letter icon? [00:20] minashokry: pidgin should integrate with the mesaging inidcator applet [00:20] yeah [00:20] that [00:20] Pidgin should be there [00:20] otherwise stick with the dire horribleness that is empathy [00:20] it works but pidgin tray itself was much better [00:21] anyway, thanks [00:21] minashokry: :( [00:21] I know [00:21] we can all shed a tear for the system tray [00:22] so are there problems between tray and java? you mentioned something like that? [00:22] Java has an api for using system trays on any operating system [00:22] doesn't work in ubuntu [00:22] 'cause ___ you that's why [00:22] since java 6 it has [00:23] minashokry: Ubuntu has added an exception for it [00:23] till 13.04 when they binned it [00:24] why ubuntu developers hate the tray? :$ [00:25] because there were no set standards for it, so anyone could make their icon do whatever they wanted, and it caused inconsistencies and hurt the user experience [00:25] amongst other things [00:25] there have been many blog posts and articles about this [00:26] it's also called the notification area [00:26] system tray is an unofficial windows name [00:26] but completely disabling it hurts too! [00:27] this is the worst surprise ever I got when I upgraded an ubuntu release [01:37] are the KDE devs still in the process of porting the codebase to QT5? i do recall that KWin was an issue [01:45] Kow, try #kde === peterrus- is now known as peterrus === MagiC3PO is now known as Magiobiwan === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth === emma_ is now known as em [07:03] anyone having problems with rythmbox? [11:08] Hiyas all [14:50] hello [14:50] i am from colombia [14:50] no speack english good === tlyu_ is now known as tlyu [14:51] !es | arielsanflo [14:51] arielsanflo: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. === Pici is now known as ZarroBoogs [15:36] Will the daily build of 13.04 64 bit install and dual boot with a secure boot enabled Windows 8 install? [16:13] I am having segmentation fault when running skype in 13.04. Any fix for this? thanks [16:15] tyrog: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1155327 [16:15] Launchpad bug 1155327 in skype (Ubuntu Raring) "skype crashed with SIGSEGV in malloc@plt()" [High,In progress] [16:19] k1l: thanks. That fixed it for me :) [17:02] is there a kernel option you can pass to GRUB that will disable usage of swap? [17:04] Salutaions! [17:04] I've successfully upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04, is it okay to install ubuntu-gnome metapackages! are there any known issue i should know about ? [17:46] any google docs integration in raring (like gnome-documents) ? [17:48] bcurtiswx, apt-cache search google brings up some results [17:52] hmm, i see something close, but no nautilus integration.. Seems that will be raring+1 with gnome-documents [17:52] maybe [18:13] If you try dpkg --set-selections < saved_package_list and it says 'package not in database' for every line... how do you fix that? [18:13] I've already done an apt-get update, after the install was complete. [21:41] my software updater gets stuck on applying changes.. is there anyway to update manually? [21:48] Ponch0, open a terminal, typ sudo apt-get upgrade [21:49] bjsnider: I always forget about upgrade and type - update.. thanks [21:58] ok after updating/upgrading I seem to have some issue with cups/dpkg? [23:25] hello [23:25] any of you cool cats running Google Chrome on 13.04? [23:31] I'm trying to install Google Chrome. It of course fails, requiring apt-get install -f, and it prompts me with 163MB that needs to be downloaded. I hit Y and it simply says processing triggers and 2 seconds later returns to the regular prompt. [23:42] :) [23:52] hi again roasted :) [23:53] hi [23:53] you mean the open source edition " Chromium " ! [23:53] samba is proving to be quite a train wreck in 13.04 [23:53] no [23:53] Chrome [23:54] okay , installing it from a deb package or from PPA ! [23:54] .deb