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| hggdh | WARNING TO SAILORS: eeeBotu is down due to a NIC failure; expected recovery is 12 hours | 11:56 |
| melodie | hi | 11:58 |
| vibhav | hggdh: heh | 12:33 |
| melodie | hi | 12:35 |
| melodie | hi hggdh I just asked my question of yesterday on the #ubuntu-desktop chan | 12:35 |
| melodie | hggdh my final goal would be to get the two icons which are here : http://meets.free.fr/debian/images/bento2/04-bento2.png to the installed version. If someone knows how I could achieve this ? | 12:36 |
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| chrisle | I need help with a bug I reported has someone from the bug team a few minutes ;-) | 15:28 |
| chrisle | the bug number is 1161916 | 15:29 |
| bdmurray | bug 1161916 | 15:48 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1161916 in unity (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in sigc::internal::slot_call0<unity::launcher::VolumeImp::Impl::Impl()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1161916 | 15:48 |
| melodie | I am trying Ubuntu Raring in vbox now, and once installed zram-config, the zram-config service does not start | 15:52 |
| melodie | there is no upstart job for it | 15:52 |
| melodie | this version is much too heavy for my vbox machine so I would need zram to be loaded, configured and working | 15:52 |
| melodie | and as I am unable to find the terminal in that kind of desktop I went to a tty to install the zram-config package and try to make it run | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | melodie, hmm, zram-config didnt change in ages , there should ber an upstart job still | 15:54 |
| melodie | ogra_ I'll pass on a link to a pic in a few seconds | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | it hasnt even had one upload this cycle ... and i know we use it on the nexus7 images without issues | 15:56 |
| melodie | ogasawara http://meets.free.fr/images/ubuntu-raring-zram_module.png | 15:56 |
| melodie | sorry | 15:56 |
| melodie | ogra_ http://meets.free.fr/images/ubuntu-raring-zram_module.png | 15:56 |
| melodie | it should have been started once installed | 15:56 |
| melodie | however the nice devs doing the package put a "feature" to make it not used in a live when there is 512 GB minimum | 15:57 |
| melodie | so when I went to put a bug report to ask to remove the limit, my bug report was closed as "won't fix"! | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | melodie, i would blame your kernel for missing support, check the logs | 15:58 |
| melodie | then I asked to reopen it and get at least 1 Gb as limit but | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | look in /var/log/upstart/ | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | there should be a zram specific file | 15:58 |
| melodie | ogra_ not the kernel, the dev of the zram module : he told me in a mail more than one year ago that he didn't have time to make it get out of the staging directory | 15:59 |
| melodie | and I have been using zram for years in several distros without any hickups | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | well, ubuntu kernels usually have it enabled from staging | 15:59 |
| melodie | and so did many other people while using remixes I did with another distribution | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | if it isnt, and you actually use a packaged ubuntu kernel thats definitely a bug | 16:00 |
| melodie | ogra_ look in the... /usr/share/initramfs hooks directory I think | 16:00 |
| melodie | ogra_ you mean there might be a bug in the today's raring iso ? | 16:00 |
| ogra_ | melodie, oh, you are trying the wrong thing (/me only looked at that screenshot closer now) | 16:00 |
| ogra_ | there are no upstart jobs in /etc/init.d | 16:00 |
| melodie | have you seen in the pic, the zram module was | 16:01 |
| melodie | ... | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | sudo service zram-config start | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | (teh job lives in /etc/init/ (no .d)) | 16:01 |
| melodie | service zram-config start sends back an error : this is the first thing I tried | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | well, check the upstart logfile | 16:02 |
| melodie | wait a sec | 16:02 |
| melodie | plse | 16:02 |
| ogra_ | it should have all the output of the script | 16:02 |
| ogra_ | there is definitely a bug somewhere ... not sure it is in zram or the kernel though | 16:02 |
| melodie | ogra_ : | 16:02 |
| melodie | as root (did a sudo -s): | 16:02 |
| melodie | service zram-config start | 16:03 |
| melodie | start: Unknown job: zram-config | 16:03 |
| melodie | this is the message I got | 16:03 |
| ogra_ | and zram-config is installed ? | 16:03 |
| ogra_ | do you see /etc/init/zram-config.conf ? | 16:03 |
| melodie | of course sir ! I installed it first, before sendig all the commands | 16:04 |
| melodie | yes I see it | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | weird | 16:04 |
| melodie | I'll have to leave soon to bring someone to the train station but will be back later | 16:04 |
| bdmurray | is it not found by the init system | 16:04 |
| melodie | ogra_ this can be checked easily | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | well, in any case file a bug | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | Aren't inotify watches used to discover services? | 16:05 |
| melodie | ogra_ I have a little collection of bugs to report, so will I | 16:05 |
| ogra_ | i thought so | 16:05 |
| melodie | bbl | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | and inotify doesn't work on live cds | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | oh | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | we're on a live cd ? | 16:07 |
| * ogra_ thought that was a VM install | 16:07 | |
| bdmurray | oh, I might have missed that | 16:08 |
| ogra_ | well ... or i missed something :) | 16:09 |
| ogra_ | " I am trying Ubuntu Raring in vbox now, and once installed zram-config, the zram-config service does not start" ... doesnt tell if its installed or not | 16:10 |
| bdmurray | initctl list and looking for zram config would probably be helpful | 16:13 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 16:14 |
| ogra_ | the package definitely didnt change since precise ... it had exactly one upload (and one revision) | 16:14 |
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| melodie | I'm back | 17:11 |
| melodie | bdmurray I will restart vbox with Ubuntu Raring Live now and check "initctl list" as you said earlier | 17:12 |
| bdmurray | melodie: is it on a live system? | 17:27 |
| melodie | bdmurray yes | 17:28 |
| melodie | I said it: "with Ubuntu Raring Live" | 17:28 |
| melodie | :) | 17:28 |
| bdmurray | okay, that's not surprising then | 17:29 |
| melodie | bdmurray why that ? | 17:30 |
| melodie | I have set up an ubuntu precise version with openbox and zram works there, in live as well as in install, so why could it work in ubuntu raring ? | 17:31 |
| bdmurray | because upstart uses inotify to become aware of new jobs and inotify doesn't work on overlayfs | 17:31 |
| bdmurray | bug 882147 | 17:31 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 882147 in coreutils (Ubuntu) "overlayfs does not implement inotify interfaces correctly" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/882147 | 17:31 |
| melodie | ok | 17:31 |
| bdmurray | after install zram-config run sudo initctl reload-configuration | 17:32 |
| melodie | ok | 17:32 |
| melodie | I will | 17:32 |
| bdmurray | if it doesn't appear in initctl list | 17:32 |
| melodie | ok | 17:32 |
| melodie | it doesn't appear, I also filtered with grep and zram to be sure | 17:34 |
| melodie | bdmurray that worked ! | 17:36 |
| melodie | bdmurray so if this is related to a bug already reported, I don't have to report one more, is that correct ? | 17:37 |
| bdmurray | melodie: that is correct | 17:39 |
| melodie | ok | 17:39 |
| melodie | bdmurray in Precise I didn't meet with this, which might be because in the openbox version I did, I have added the service start line into rc.local : what do you think ? | 17:40 |
| melodie | and also I removed the "under 512 MB" limit... | 17:40 |
| melodie | bdmurray you can look at zram in action here: http://meets.free.fr/images/ubuntu-raring-htop-zram.png | 17:57 |
| melodie | :) | 17:58 |
| melodie | unfortunately I could not downsize it due to impossibility to update initramfs in a live (after downsizing to 25% in the initramfs.conf file) | 17:58 |
| melodie | so now I'll install the live, and make a new pic related to the directory "Desktop", afterwards | 17:59 |
| melodie | It seems that in Ubuntu Unity Raring the Alt-F2 command does not allow to start an application. I had to use the dash instead and fell nose to nose to that lens thing as you can see here: | 19:46 |
| melodie | http://meets.free.fr/images/Raring/ubuntu-raring-seeking-for-a-terminal.png | 19:46 |
| melodie | :s | 19:46 |
| ogra_ | alt-f2 opens the dash since quite a while | 19:47 |
| melodie | ogra_ and when I tried to call for terminal, that didn't start the terminal, and it showed the wheels as icon, then tried to click on it, and nothing happened | 19:48 |
| ogra_ | that sounds like a bug then | 19:49 |
| melodie | one more ? | 19:49 |
| ogra_ | alk-f2 shoould give you the dash ... like in your screenhot | 19:49 |
| melodie | I would need to check in a real machine but I don't have one with enough resource connected and ready to go for now | 19:49 |
| ogra_ | if it shows something else thats wrong | 19:50 |
| ogra_ | *alt | 19:50 |
| melodie | it opens a field where I can type my command, but once typed and once some icons coming up, I can't get the app to start | 19:50 |
| ogra_ | yeah, thats a bug then | 19:52 |
| melodie | for the time being I am after getting it installed to vbox, and then make a pic of the desktop inside the /home/user | 19:53 |
| melodie | then a bug report needs to be done about the Desktop directory not being in my language in the live... then I'll see what next bug I am able to report... | 19:54 |
| melodie | my host is an archlinux box with openbox environmenet, in a 2 Gb machine, which leaves for now 750 mb to the guest machine | 19:55 |
| melodie | I'll check again after install | 19:56 |
| melodie | after install in vbox, Ubuntu did not start lightdm, it stayed with a black screen. So I went to a tty and used the command line provided to me earlier by bdmurray : | 20:33 |
| melodie | <bdmurray> after install zram-config run sudo initctl reload-configuration | 20:33 |
| melodie | I did just initctl reload-configuration as root, and restarted lightdm : otherwise it didn't want to restart. Now I will be able to login (I think... ) | 20:34 |
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| melodie | ogra_ bdmurray finally reported : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-user-dirs-gtk/+bug/1163043 | 22:45 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1163043 in xdg-user-dirs-gtk "Directory Desktop stays in English in the Live CD's" [Undecided,New] | 22:45 |
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