[06:07] <MartijnVdS> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-March/010062.html
[08:37] <popey> Morning
[08:38] <MartijnVdS> morning popey
[08:38] <MartijnVdS> popey: ^ seen that announcement? ;)
[08:38] <popey> yeah
[08:39] <popey> trying to avoid as many fools as possible
[08:39] <MartijnVdS> popey: better stay off the interwebs then :)
[09:03] <popey> there is that
[09:04] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:06] <kvarley> I'm setting up a backup system for my parents laptops. Should I use rsync or owncloud or both or something else?
[09:45] <MartijnVdS> Linux-only: Half-Life 4 - http://steamdb.info/app/800/#section_info
[09:45] <MartijnVdS> (sorry popey :))
[09:47] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[09:48] <MartijnVdS> \o brobostigon
[09:48] <brobostigon> morning MartijnVdS
[09:50] <SuperMatt> any sim city players in here?
[09:52] <popey> http://tumbleweed.popey.com/
[09:54] <SuperMatt> yes, I should have guessed
[09:54] <MartijnVdS> I played the first SimCity
[09:54] <MartijnVdS> and SC2K
[09:54] <SuperMatt> I guess I'll just  have to play with myself :(
[09:55] <directhex> i have simcity for SNES.
[09:55] <directhex> it has bowser attack as a disaster
[09:55] <MartijnVdS> directhex: instead of godzilla?
[09:55] <directhex> and this guy giving advice http://www.catchynamenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/sims3uo3.png
[10:10] <ikonia> loved sim city on the snes
[10:10] <ikonia> loving the new one on the PC too (sad to admit)
[10:35] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:35] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm :)
[10:38] <bigcalm> Hi brobostigon :)
[10:39] <bigcalm> AlanBell: would it be possible for us to add a little more detail to http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2320-real-ale-train/ please?
[10:40] <bigcalm> Oh, looks like I can do it :)
[10:58] <bigcalm> AlanBell: popey: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2320-real-ale-train/ text updated. Please feel free to edit as required :)
[11:13]  * bigcalm looks for a hotel in Farnham that isn't the Hotel de Vie
[11:16] <bigcalm> Put "hotels in farnham" into google maps. Results include "Farnham Tyre and Exhaust Specialists"
[11:16] <bigcalm> Searching on google maps used to be useful :(
[11:17] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: maybe they have a bed for you though?
[11:20] <kvarley> Is it possible to set kernel parameters after boot?
[11:20] <kvarley> I want to disable ipv6 on the kernel
[11:20] <MartijnVdS> kvarley: sometimes.. and you don't want to disable ipv6
[11:20] <MartijnVdS> really, you don't.
[11:20] <MartijnVdS> you might want to disable SLAAC
[11:20] <MartijnVdS> (which you can do through /etc/sysctl.*
[11:21] <MartijnVdS> http://blackundertone.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/ipv6-static-address-on-ubuntu/
[11:22] <kvarley> Thanks
[11:22] <bigcalm> AlanBell: ta for the RT. Hope people show some interest :)
[11:23] <bigcalm> Wondering if I shouldn't have mentioned the stag do bit in my tweet
[11:34] <brobostigon> ch5,13:15, dr who and the daleks,
[11:42] <kvarley> bigcalm: Never knew you were a web developer! :)
[11:49] <bigcalm> kvarley: it's true
[12:21] <popey> bigcalm: booked!
[12:21] <bigcalm> popey: yippie :)
[12:22] <bigcalm> popey: I'm still hunting for a hotel. Searching on Google maps is pants. Any recommendations for places in Farnham?
[12:22] <popey> You're welcome to kip here if you don't mind a sofa bed
[12:24] <bigcalm> popey: that's very kind of you, thanks. Might take up the offer if I struggle with hotels (thinking of driving down Friday evening and back Sunday afternoon).
[12:41] <kvarley> bigcalm: If a framework is MIT licensed, do I have to put an explicit message in the footer of my website or is the license in the code enough?
[12:42] <bigcalm> kvarley: I've never looked into the MIT licence
[12:42] <bigcalm> Websites tend not to specify the framework they are built upon
[12:46] <directhex> kvarley, license in code is enough
[12:46] <kvarley> directhex: Thanks :)
[13:15] <lorenzohdT> hi
[14:56] <bigcalm> Blue Shift and Opposing Forces are out on linux steam. Happy days :)
[15:00] <MartijnVdS> they are?
[15:01] <MartijnVdS> they are!
[15:01] <MartijnVdS> HL2: Death Match as well
[15:07] <MartijnVdS> *hope HL2 itself will be out soon*
[15:15] <MartijnVdS> aww
[15:15] <MartijnVdS> hl2 has the same problem as tf2
[15:18] <popey> 16:17:39 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- You have too many channels registered.
[15:18] <popey> ʘ‿ಠ
[15:20] <RadiumCat> lol cute :)
[15:24] <LjL> niven.freenode.net * You have too many channels joined
[15:30] <dogmatic69> is it possible to have a script on server A and run that on server B from server A?
[15:30] <Azelphur> dogmatic69: ssh user@servera ./myscript
[15:31] <dogmatic69> Azelphur: thanks
[15:31] <Azelphur> :)
[15:36] <shauno> it needs to go the other way around if the script you want to run isn't on the machine you want to run it on.  ssh user@host bash <script.sh will run a local script on the remote machine
[15:40] <amayer> popey: are you the one that has a camera set up that takes pics every 5 min or so and uploads them to a website? (im working on a project that needs to do just that)
[15:40] <popey> amayer: i have done that
[15:41] <amayer> my boss wants me to buy 3 cameras to do just that and im wondering if you ran into any problems that i should look out for
[15:42] <amayer> (im probably going to have to go with a windows system tho. my boss says since we paid for all the MS licenses that we should use them)
[15:43] <popey> cant really help on windows
[15:45] <amayer> ok well thanks anyway
[15:53] <bigcalm> Is there an easy way to grep irclogs for this channel?
[15:53] <BigRedS> curl + wget?
[15:53] <BigRedS> er
[15:53] <BigRedS> curl + grep
[15:54] <bigcalm> That's a lot of log files to fetch
[15:55]  * bigcalm pokes google some more
[15:56] <popey> anything in particular you're looking for?
[15:56] <popey> might be faster for someone with local logging to grep
[15:56] <bigcalm> I remember having a conversation with somebody about managing a 48bit integer in PHP
[15:57] <bigcalm> I came up with one way, they came up with another using 'bitwise' I _think_
[15:57] <MartijnVdS> BUT VHY!?!
[15:57] <bigcalm> Why what?
[15:58] <MartijnVdS> 48-bit ints
[15:58] <MartijnVdS> what's wrong with 64 bits ;)
[16:00] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: I'm dealing with a 3rd party's API which expects a 48 bit integer, split into 16bit and 32bit integers
[16:00] <MartijnVdS> *shudder*
[16:02] <bigcalm> Anybody with local logging able to help? :)
[16:06] <popey> nothing here
[16:06] <bigcalm> It might have been 21st Jan
[16:06] <popey> looked for your nick, 48 and bit
[16:06] <MartijnVdS> Local logging?
[16:06] <MartijnVdS> ah IRC logging
[16:06]  * MartijnVdS wondered about the forest
[16:07] <bigcalm> That date it from looking at git commits for when I added the function
[16:07]  * popey prints out his irc logs to kill the forest
[16:07] <bigcalm> :D
[16:21] <MartijnVdS> In case you have an Arduino lying around: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dyuT8N08zM
[16:44] <bigcalm> This is fun. Just added a debug statement to the 3rd party code to see what the end result was of the data I sent it. I sent a value of 75, it reports it as 28896. Something's up
[16:49] <MartijnVdS> up a lot 8-)
[17:10] <ali1234> bigcalm it wasn't in this channel
[17:37] <SuperEngineer> can someone tell the jet stream to obey the
[17:37] <SuperEngineer> ubuntu code of conduct
[17:37] <brobostigon> lol
[17:37] <SuperEngineer> ...as in friendly to all....
[17:37] <SuperEngineer> ... coz right now I'm ducking dreezing!
[17:38] <brobostigon> interesting avoidnce of colourful language.
[17:38] <brobostigon> avoidance*
[17:38] <TheOpenSourcerer> clucking bell brobostigon!
[17:38] <brobostigon> lol, :)
[17:41] <SuperEngineer> ☺
[17:42] <bigcalm> TheOpenSourcerer: are you joining us this year? http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2320-real-ale-train/
[17:44] <TheOpenSourcerer> Thanks bigcalm - didn't know it was arranged already. Will check diary and book later. I have to get on a expand a customer's VM by 100GB right now.
[17:44] <TheOpenSourcerer> s/a/and
[17:45] <bigcalm> TheOpenSourcerer: organising my stag do turned into organising the ubuntu-uk outing
[17:50]  * AlanBell booked a ticket \o/
[17:51] <brobostigon> RAT
[17:51] <bigcalm> Yay :)
[17:51] <bigcalm> Why doesn't my photo appear next to my comments I wonder
[17:52] <bigcalm> ?
[17:54] <AlanBell> gravatar?
[17:54] <AlanBell> no, it is your launchpad photo
[17:54] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~iain-cuthbertson
[17:54] <popey> pulls from there
[17:55] <AlanBell> http://techlaze.com/2012/03/richard-stallman-to-launch-his-own-fashion-line/
[17:56] <ali1234> this stuff gets worse
[17:57] <bigcalm> popey: To which I have added a mug shot
[17:57] <Sionbuntu> Can anybody tell me how I can fix a new screen resolution which prevents me from seeing anything on my display?
[18:00] <bigcalm> popey: Ah, is the image my 'logo' from the branding page instead?
[18:02] <AlanBell> Sionbuntu: if you boot up into a recovery kernel one of the options is to go to a safe graphics mode
[18:02] <AlanBell> Sionbuntu: hold down shift as you boot up to get the grub menu to display
[18:10] <SuperEngineer> hmmm - Facebook pone due out soon ....  nah!
[18:10] <SuperEngineer> *phone
[18:12] <zleap> hi
[18:12] <zleap> tombrough,you need to register to enter #raspberrypi
[18:16] <zleap> tom type /msg nickserv help register
[18:21] <SuperEngineer> So... did you all work the answer to my April Fool posting?
[18:22] <Myrtti> no one has yet finished the freenode April's Fool totally
[18:43]  * SuperEngineer shuts down for tonight - see you later folks
[19:41] <mungbean> found myself tidying shelves in hobbycraft today...i don't even work there :S
[19:44] <daftykins> mungbean: :D
[19:45] <daftykins> what's a 'hobbycraft' ? chain of the name suggests, selling models etc?
[19:45] <daftykins> when i clothes shop (very rare) i fold the clothes back up again so i often get asked if i work there :( heh
[19:45] <zleap> shops there is one in newton abbot i think
[19:46] <mungbean> hobbycraft is an awesome shop because it sells stuff to ladies (wool, knitting, craft stuff), and there's a mens models section
[19:46] <mungbean> so you can peruse at your leisure
[19:46] <mungbean> today i spent £2.15 on some tamiya tape and felt guilty. then my wife came downstairs with £30 worth of wool and other gubbins
[19:47] <mungbean> a lot of the model kits were in the wrong sections so i did some tidying
[19:49] <daftykins> =]
[19:50] <daftykins> then you quickly added items so you were spending £30 too?
[19:51] <mungbean> no i dont like spending ££ on myself
[19:52] <daftykins> :o
[19:53] <Myrtti> mungbean: I've taken the habit of cleaning Morrison's onion boxes from manky onions and dry skins :-D
[19:53] <Myrtti> and no I don't work at Morrisons
[19:53] <mungbean> i almolst made some recommendations to other people too
[19:54] <daftykins> i always want to tell people to run away in local computer places if i hear them getting bad advice
[19:58] <mungbean> where  a safe archive of older versions of android apk?
[19:58] <mungbean> e.g. old kindle app apk thhat i can trust
[20:16] <daftykins> mungbean: some problem with the latest?
[20:16] <mungbean> yeah on x86 android
[20:17] <daftykins> oh crikey
[20:25] <mungbean> jonathan creek new episode? thats why so quiet
[20:26] <brobostigon> for the new dr who it was quieter,
[20:36]  * popey is recording Jonathan Creek
[20:40] <czajkowski> it's very good
[20:40] <czajkowski> http://www.mickperrin.com/tours/view/193
[20:40] <czajkowski> he's in wolverhampton!
[20:41] <bigcalm> czajkowski: you wanted reminding of http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2320-real-ale-train/ :)
[20:41] <popey> czajkowski: http://www.comedy.co.uk/news/story/000001073/bbc_order_new_jonathan_creek_series/
[20:41] <czajkowski> bigcalm: look who's bought tickets :)
[20:41] <czajkowski> popey: ohhh \o/ yay
[20:41] <bigcalm> czajkowski: Jon has, hope you're coming too :D
[20:41] <czajkowski> yeah ticket has been purchased for me :)
[20:44] <bigcalm> Is it September yet?!
[20:44] <bigcalm> Oh, several things yet to do
[20:45] <bigcalm> Still looking for a special set of cufflinks
[20:48] <mungbean> that do what bigcalm ?
[20:48] <bigcalm> mungbean: look special
[20:49] <czajkowski> bigcalm: penguins, tardis?
[20:49] <bigcalm> czajkowski: oo, possibly. Have only been looking in high street shops so far
[20:49] <czajkowski> amazon
[20:49] <czajkowski> ebay
[20:51] <mungbean> tateosshttps://www.tateossian.com/category/1009/cufflinks/2.html
[20:53] <popey> bigcalm: http://popey.com/~alan/dalek.jpg :D
[20:54] <bigcalm> :O
[20:55] <popey> they have been sat on my desk for a year or more
[20:55] <bigcalm> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Quality-Green-Circuit-Board-Cufflinks/dp/B0045KEOXU - though an image rather than actual boards
[20:56] <popey> they're not circuits
[20:56] <popey> they're pictures of circuits
[20:56] <bigcalm> popey: note the text I wrote after the link :)
[20:57] <popey> ah ☺
[20:57] <bigcalm> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silver-Cufflinks-Links-Master-Engineer/dp/B005SV50Y2
[20:57] <bigcalm> Imagine what I could have hanging from my cuffs
[20:59] <popey> bigcalm: 3d print some ☺
[21:01] <bigcalm> Heh, there are chameleon cufflinks (searched for linux cufflinks)
[21:02] <moreati> bigcalm: a 3D relief of the QR code for your website or public key on one cuff, small ink well on the other
[21:02] <bigcalm> Hey moreati, not seen you in here before. Nice idea about the ink well. I still don't like QR codes though
[21:04] <Myrtti> bigcalm: yeah, I bought the blue ones for dsample as valentines present and they went through the wash cycle after first use, and the picture faded a bit under the resin
[21:06] <moreati> bigcalm: seen http://boingboing.net/2013/03/28/the-namikipilot-vanishing-poi.html btw?
[21:06] <bigcalm> Myrtti: more reason to avoid images or colours. Need something solid
[21:06] <Azelphur> Anyone here happen to know what the deal is with t-mobiles fair usage policy on mobile?
[21:06] <bigcalm> moreati: oh, the retractable fp? They do look tasty :)
[21:07] <Azelphur> as usual the written policy is totally vague
[21:07] <bigcalm> Azelphur: The closest I got was when I was within 80% monthly usage I got a text message (that was the week VirginMedia cable went away)
[21:08] <Azelphur> I see, any idea on GB usage?
[21:08] <Azelphur> kinda interested in the £16/mo unlimited everything plan
[21:09] <bigcalm> My plan at the time was 500MB a month. So normal usage for me never got close
[21:09] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HGeMGqVKD6A#
[21:09] <popey> she totally isn't reading the cards, but off a tablet
[21:09] <moreati> Azelphur: I switched from t-mobile because (at the time) they recompressed jpegs and injected javascript to accelerate page loads
[21:10] <Azelphur> moreati: fun
[21:11] <moreati> Azelphur: they may still do so, I haven't checked in > 12 months
[21:11] <Azelphur> I notice they say excluding tethering too, wonder if they do any detection
[21:11] <Azelphur> I know three does, which has been driving me mad.
[21:13] <bigcalm> Azelphur: I've never had a problem with tethering
[21:13] <TheOpenSourcerer> RAT ticket booked bigcalm
[21:13] <Azelphur> fun
[21:14] <bigcalm> TheOpenSourcerer: \o/
[21:15] <popey> yay TheOpenSourcerer ☺
[21:16] <TheOpenSourcerer> Lookingforward to the Beerex next!
[21:16] <popey> ☺
[21:18] <TheOpenSourcerer> Now am off to bedski with a scotch and a good book (Currently reading Bring up the Bodies)
[21:26]  * bigcalm plays a little more of Blue Shift while unit tests run
[21:27] <directhex> shoot the alien!
[21:56] <bigcalm> directhex: I've been doing a lot of that
[22:00] <bigcalm> Wee, back in Xen
[22:00] <daftykins> :o
[22:00] <daftykins> i'm amazed that my new TV even makes xbox games look better
[22:20] <directhex> well if you're gonna replace an old 21" 4:3 tube with a 106" oled, it's *gonna* look better
[22:25] <daftykins> directhex: heh, nah 40" 1366x768 CCFL backed 2005/6 Sony vs. 55" LED backed samsung 6800 series
[22:25] <daftykins> \o/
[22:43] <penguin42> hmph, not good when wifi bounces during video recording - anyone know how to rescue swf?
[22:43] <penguin42> Azelphur: T-mobile's stuff is very vague - I'm on the £20/6 months unlimited plan
[22:44] <Azelphur> penguin42: fun
[22:54] <daftykins> Azelphur: when you were desk hunting, did you find anything ~1500x800 on the surface for cheaper than £100?
[22:54] <Azelphur> hmm
[22:55] <daftykins> i've not tried any local places yet
[22:55] <daftykins> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Trexus-Classic-Panelled-Rectangular-W1600xD800xH725mm/dp/B004LWPZDK/ref=sr_1_4?s=officeproduct&ie=UTF8&qid=1364856866&sr=1-4
[22:55] <daftykins> but that seems to be around the best sort of thing from amazon
[22:55] <Azelphur> did you want a corner or just a square?
[22:55] <daftykins> just your standard rectangle job for a middle really
[22:59] <Azelphur> daftykins: http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/S09806763/ this with the extension probably
[23:00] <daftykins> crikey furniture @ pricey
[23:00] <daftykins> :D
[23:00] <daftykins> Azelphur: ty sir!
[23:00] <Azelphur> yw
[23:01] <directhex> GALANT gets expensive fast
[23:01] <daftykins> ?
[23:01] <Azelphur> http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/S89821547/ that's the extension I think
[23:01] <directhex> it's a modular system. so sure, a plank and the cheapest legs, as linked by Azelphur, are <£100
[23:02] <directhex> but once you add on things like extensions, corner pieces, computer shelves, cable trays...
[23:02] <Azelphur> that gets you 1800x800 for £150
[23:02] <Azelphur> or 1200x800 for £90
[23:02] <daftykins> oic
[23:02] <daftykins> checking down my local recycling might be easiest ;D
[23:02] <directhex> http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/categories/departments/workspaces/18960/
[23:02] <daftykins> then local office places perhaps, apparently they're disappearing though
[23:03] <directhex> we DIY'd a GALANT design for our main room
[23:05] <daftykins> interesting
[23:05] <daftykins> my current desk came from a business' bankruptcy sale :D
[23:06] <daftykins> £25 for 1600x800
[23:06] <daftykins> \o/
[23:06] <daftykins> the surface is even amazing for optical meece!
[23:07] <daftykins> alright i gotta sleep
[23:07] <daftykins> nn all \o
[23:08] <penguin42> B&Q do a sheet of white contiplas 2440x1220 for £29