| snap-l | Cool, got a $25 gift certificate for Guild of Blades for shopping there on Tabletop Game day. :) | 00:51 |
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| ColonelPanic001 | woo. I'm home | 01:19 |
| snap-l | ColonelPanic001: w/b | 01:31 |
| ColonelPanic001 | thanks | 01:36 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I haven't touched a keyboard in a week | 01:36 |
| snap-l | yOU'RE IN FOR A SHOCK | 01:38 |
| snap-l | They moved the capslock key since you last typed | 01:39 |
| ColonelPanic001 | oHCRAP WHATS THIS | 01:39 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I was really amused. I was down in Florida | 01:42 |
| ColonelPanic001 | and often, when leavingt to go to a restaurant or something, we'd drive on I-75 | 01:42 |
| snap-l | Yeah, it's quite popular down there. :) | 02:01 |
| snap-l | Also, I'm listening to Die Walkure | 02:01 |
| snap-l | And obsessing that I don't have this version ripped | 02:02 |
| snap-l | even though I hate opera | 02:02 |
| snap-l | I can only conclude that I am psychotic an dinsane | 02:02 |
| Blazeix | rejoining the internet right in time for april 1st. a poor choice. | 02:19 |
| rick_h_ | heh greg-g getting invoveld with xkcd ftw http://xkcd.com/1193/ | 10:51 |
| rick_h_ | heh and suckered me into donating for the first time | 10:51 |
| snap-l | http://decafbad.net/2013/04/01/open-metalcast-puts-full-support-behind-new-riaa-certified-creative-commons-license/ | 11:16 |
| snap-l | btw: GOod morning. :) | 12:00 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 12:01 |
| brousch | yo | 12:09 |
| brousch | Damnit. It's April fool's Day | 12:13 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: yes...save us all | 12:16 |
| snap-l | I think I'm going to read a book instead of read the internet | 12:17 |
| snap-l | and just delete any posts that have a 4/1 timestamp on them in my reader. | 12:17 |
| snap-l | Docker is now OSS | 12:18 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 12:18 |
| rick_h_ | why I wanted to do that pycon video | 12:19 |
| snap-l | Looked pretty interesting | 12:19 |
| snap-l | I've already replaced a lot of my "server virtualbox" usage with lxc | 12:19 |
| rick_h_ | yea, if I end up getting a desktop I might check out running it on there to handle needs like that | 12:20 |
| snap-l | create vbox image to play with software, then blow away afterward. | 12:20 |
| snap-l | I think it would be my preferred way to deploy ruby shit | 12:20 |
| snap-l | none of that stupid not-virtualenv stuff | 12:21 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 12:21 |
| brousch | All I see are document generators | 12:21 |
| brousch | Or pants | 12:21 |
| rick_h_ | huh? | 12:21 |
| brousch | Docker | 12:21 |
| snap-l | Too new for search | 12:22 |
| snap-l | try docker lxc container | 12:22 |
| rick_h_ | docker.io | 12:22 |
| rick_h_ | see pycon talk about 'future of lxc containers' | 12:22 |
| brousch | Damnit. Now I have to look up Linux containers | 12:24 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 12:24 |
| snap-l | lxc is haaawt | 12:24 |
| rick_h_ | past time to do that | 12:24 |
| snap-l | I hear there's this thing called Juju that people are using | 12:24 |
| brousch | I use virtualbox | 12:25 |
| rick_h_ | with a name like juju I know it's april fools :P | 12:25 |
| snap-l | brousch: I did too, but unless I need something with bridged networking, LXC is good for back-of-the-envelope computing | 12:25 |
| snap-l | Waiting for an image to spin up, or taking and modifying an existing image is a bit of a pain | 12:26 |
| snap-l | If I could figure out bridged networking with LXC without requiring a bunch of libvirt modules to make it happen, that would make my day. | 12:27 |
| brousch | It takes about 10s to reboot an Ubuntu 12.04 server VM | 12:33 |
| rick_h_ | http://r.bmark.us/u/8d69ae88418984 actually rooting for tesla so this is cool. Hopefull that in 10yrs or so we'll have one all electric and one not | 12:33 |
| brousch | 10 years is not long enough | 12:35 |
| brousch | In 10 years I hope we're all driving hybrids like the Volt | 12:35 |
| rick_h_ | I don't know. The last 10 years has shown a LOT of progress | 12:35 |
| snap-l | Nice | 12:35 |
| snap-l | It's all about the batteries | 12:35 |
| brousch | I look at the parking lot at work. Not a single hybrid even | 12:35 |
| snap-l | I think in 10 years we'll have some major advancements in batteries | 12:35 |
| snap-l | WE've already kicked the crap out of Lithium Ion | 12:36 |
| brousch | The charging time is just too long | 12:36 |
| snap-l | brousch: It'll only get shorter | 12:36 |
| brousch | Have to switch to battery swaps or something | 12:36 |
| brousch | If not, that's a fuckload of power being pushed through refueling stations | 12:37 |
| snap-l | brousch: In 2003, did you even imagine you'd have a smart phone? | 12:37 |
| brousch | I'll wet myself every time I have to recharge in slushy weather | 12:37 |
| snap-l | let alone one that could do everything your phone does with an overnight charge? | 12:37 |
| brousch | A phone is $200 and you replace it every 2 years. A car is $20,000 and you replace it every decade | 12:38 |
| brousch | Turnover is easier | 12:38 |
| brousch | And you don't need a company every 1/4 mile to keep the phone running | 12:38 |
| snap-l | brousch: you're not seeing the bigger picture | 12:39 |
| brousch | Don't get me wrong, I want a self-driving electric car. It just won't happen for the vast majority in 10 years | 12:39 |
| snap-l | We're in the tadpole stages of electric cars | 12:39 |
| rick_h_ | the 1hr stuff from tesla seems to be getting darn close to reasonable | 12:40 |
| brousch | 1 hour every 300 miles? | 12:40 |
| rick_h_ | besides, we've learned to change behavior before. I think it's more of a behavior training thing | 12:40 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: well, to be fair I said one all electric and one not | 12:40 |
| rick_h_ | I do enjoy my 11hr straight trip to VA | 12:41 |
| brousch | I like the Volt's system | 12:41 |
| rick_h_ | and adding 3 1hr chargings to it would kind of suck | 12:41 |
| rick_h_ | I don't, I think it's too complicated trying to do the both worlds approach | 12:41 |
| rick_h_ | not enough of either | 12:41 |
| brousch | You put gas in, it charges the battery | 12:42 |
| brousch | Or you plug it in | 12:42 |
| snap-l | I just find it funny that now we're complaining about the charging times for cars that go 300 miles | 12:42 |
| snap-l | as opposed to complalining about the charging times for cars that could barely make a commute | 12:42 |
| snap-l | If that ain't progress, I don't know what is. :) | 12:43 |
| brousch | It is progress, but it won't get adopted until I can refuel in 5 minutes | 12:43 |
| rick_h_ | the big thing for them is that the batteries won't be new capacity all the time. | 12:44 |
| rick_h_ | as someone that tries to keep cars 5-7 years, ugh for dealing with capacity leakage over time | 12:44 |
| rick_h_ | but hoping in 10yr things get better | 12:44 |
| snap-l | brousch: but what if your car could refuel at the burger king? | 12:44 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: I don't think so. I think some of that is just training people's habits | 12:44 |
| snap-l | While you're stuffing your face with the whopper, your car is busily recharging | 12:44 |
| snap-l | 15 - 20 minutes later, you're both rearing to go | 12:45 |
| brousch | That would be nice | 12:45 |
| snap-l | We could return to the drive-in lanes, where you have some teenager skate over to your car, plug it in, and take your order. | 12:46 |
| brousch | I don't think the electric grid is ready fo that | 12:47 |
| snap-l | well, that's the whole alternative energy discussion. :) | 12:47 |
| snap-l | but 5 minutes ago you were complaining about an hour long charge | 12:48 |
| rick_h_ | bah, just play along and keep saying 'in 10 years' :P | 12:48 |
| brousch | Too much too change in 10 years | 12:49 |
| snap-l | because you were waiting in a gas station, not sitting in a 1950s themed drive in | 12:49 |
| rick_h_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cumulative_US_HEV_Sales_by_year_1999_2009.png | 12:49 |
| snap-l | It only takes a little lateral thinking to see how awesome this could be. | 12:50 |
| rick_h_ | 10yrs is a long time | 12:50 |
| snap-l | also, charts can tell any story. ;) | 12:50 |
| brousch | There are 250 million cars in America. So that chart shows 0-1% jump in 10 years | 12:51 |
| rick_h_ | just saying that 'hybrids' in their current have moved a ton in the last 10yrs...as in become major consumer products | 12:51 |
| snap-l | I think it's just brousch showing that great Western Michigan trait of "hey, who left the light on, dammit? These things cost money." ;) | 12:52 |
| brousch | It boggled my mind when gas went to $4/gal and shop guys were still driving their 10 year old superduty pickups to work from ionia and fremont | 12:53 |
| brousch | It had to be costing them 1/2 of their pay to get to work and back | 12:53 |
| snap-l | brousch: Yep, but that's how they do their work | 12:54 |
| brousch | No, they drive to work, work all day, then drive home | 12:54 |
| snap-l | no way in hell you're getting 600lbs of cement from point a to point b in a prius with two other guys. | 12:54 |
| brousch | These guys work in the shop, not in the field | 12:54 |
| snap-l | Ah, n/m then | 12:54 |
| rick_h_ | yea, why I <3 my touareg. My family are all big truck people, F250+ and when I said I got 30MPG to ATL and back they did a double take | 12:54 |
| rick_h_ | even my brother's F150 wasn't close and it's a V6 | 12:55 |
| rick_h_ | but I am paying more for diesel right now :/ | 12:55 |
| snap-l | Ford's truck engines are not terribly efficient at delivering power. | 12:55 |
| brousch | A few years ago I looked at buying a scooter to get to work and back. I couldn't justify it based on gas savings | 12:58 |
| brousch | I guess if gas hits $10/gal we could see big electric uptake | 12:59 |
| brousch | Electric has to be as convenient as gas and cheaper before americans will give up their manly machines | 13:00 |
| rick_h_ | one manly machine one around town vehicle :P | 13:01 |
| brousch | Heh, I just understood your original comment | 13:05 |
| brousch | I thought you meant Tesla would make 1 all-electric vehicle and one hybrid (not), not that you would own one of each | 13:06 |
| brousch | I'm due for a new car in 3-5 years. I hope to get a hybrid or all-electric, but I'd have to be able to justify it in money saved over the life of the vehicle | 13:08 |
| snap-l | It's going to take longer than 3-5 years for this to be affordable | 13:18 |
| brousch | It won't get adopted until it's affordable | 13:19 |
| snap-l | Not true | 13:19 |
| snap-l | there's always the early-adopters | 13:19 |
| brousch | They are few | 13:20 |
| snap-l | I think they're more numerous than you might think | 13:20 |
| snap-l | Steve Jackson of Steve Jackson Games just bought a Tesla S | 13:20 |
| brousch | He is rich | 13:20 |
| snap-l | Not in the way you might think | 13:21 |
| snap-l | he's quite shrewd and frugal | 13:21 |
| snap-l | http://sjgames.com/ill/archive/March_28_2013/Steve_Gets_A_Model_S_Fnord | 13:21 |
| snap-l | Dammit, someone already has FNORD up here. :( | 13:25 |
| brousch | That's a $50,000 car. For it to be frugal, it would have to save $30,000 in gas compared to a $20,000 corola. At $10/gal and assuming it costs $0 to charge the Tesla that would mean about 90,000 miles of driving. More realistically, it means it might break even if the car lasts 15 years | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | or sometimes you just pay for the privilege of better...after all people seem to be about paying extra for those organic fruits/veges | 13:26 |
| snap-l | brousch: You buy a car like that not because it's frugal, but because it's an ALL ELECTRIC VEHICLE WITH NO ENGINE TO SPEAK OF | 13:26 |
| brousch | Right, but snap-l implied it was a shrewd or frugal purchase | 13:26 |
| rick_h_ | "for you to buy this organic oragic orange it will need to be 1.75 better for you in taste and calories" | 13:26 |
| snap-l | i made no such claims | 13:26 |
| snap-l | I said that Steve Jackson was not righ | 13:27 |
| snap-l | rich | 13:27 |
| snap-l | He's no pimp, even though I'm a whore for their games. | 13:27 |
| snap-l | Hey, waitaminute. | 13:27 |
| snap-l | Maybe he is a pimp after all. ;) | 13:27 |
| === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro | ||
| rick_h_ | lmao https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-shopping/+bug/1156100 | 14:07 |
| brousch | awesome | 14:10 |
| snap-l | Love the finger pointing | 14:12 |
| snap-l | Yes it's Amazon not filtering things, but seriously | 14:13 |
| snap-l | O'Reilly has a booklet on LED lighting | 15:12 |
| snap-l | I swear, they just want me to give them money or something | 15:12 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: on Friday Randall Monroe reached out to some people in #wikimedia-gendergap (not sure why there, he's been idling there for a couple/few weeks) about today's comic :) | 15:42 |
| rick_h_ | curses! forgot my headphones again. | 18:04 |
| greg-g | stupid monday | 18:05 |
| rick_h_ | need to have some detector that picks up lack of headphones when heading to the coffee shop | 18:05 |
| brousch | Google Now | 18:05 |
| rick_h_ | bad thing is I had them on the charger so they'd have juice to use at the coffee shop | 18:05 |
| rick_h_ | so thought a little ahead today | 18:05 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 18:05 |
| brousch | "5 minutes to Caribou coffe. don't forget your headphones!" | 18:06 |
| greg-g | just not far enough | 18:06 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: that's cool on the wikimedia stuff. Got me to donate for the first time so success | 18:07 |
| greg-g | w00t! | 18:08 |
| greg-g | love when others unilaterally get more donations to your org :) | 18:08 |
| greg-g | he has a post about WP every now and then, so he's definitely a user | 18:09 |
| rick_h_ | cool, yea I don't tend to use it much so never bothered. | 18:09 |
| rick_h_ | try to hit more small devs working on cool stuff I use, but wth :) | 18:09 |
| rick_h_ | bigger dogs are better! | 18:09 |
| greg-g | :) | 18:10 |
| greg-g | we're pretty efficient at creating postive impact with your dollars, I promise | 18:10 |
| * greg-g hides his morning champagne bottle | 18:10 | |
| rick_h_ | hah | 18:10 |
| rick_h_ | well I secretly donated hoping it'd help you get back to a thinkpad :P | 18:11 |
| greg-g | YE! | 18:11 |
| greg-g | +S | 18:11 |
| greg-g | in 2 years or whatever the cycle is, I'm lobbying REAL hard | 18:11 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: http://mvsm.bandcamp.com/ You must check this band out | 18:29 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: if I had brought my headphones I would :) | 18:29 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: will do though. | 18:29 |
| snap-l | It's like Tool's doppelganger | 18:30 |
| rick_h_ | heh cool | 18:30 |
| greg-g | WHY U NO RECOMMEND ME, SNAP-L? | 18:30 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Screw the rest of the folks at the coffeeshop. This is important | 18:30 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Figured you already knew about 'em. ;) | 18:30 |
| snap-l | greg-g: What with being at wikimedia and all. ;) | 18:31 |
| greg-g | wikimedia hosts bandcamp? ;) | 18:31 |
| snap-l | wikimedia knows all. ;) | 18:31 |
| greg-g | oh, right, that's true | 18:31 |
| snap-l | greg-g: http://mvsm.bandcamp.com/ OMG YOU MUST CHECK THIS OUT! | 18:31 |
| snap-l | happy now? | 18:31 |
| greg-g | SWEET I WILL! | 18:31 |
| greg-g | thanks buddy | 18:31 |
| greg-g | ;) | 18:31 |
| snap-l | KTHZBAI! | 18:31 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: funny http://www.finewoodworking.com/item/106963/how-does-a-fine-woodworker-change-a-lightbulb | 19:18 |
| jcastro | rick_h_: this is how imagine your daily life | 19:21 |
| brousch | jcastro++ | 19:22 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: hah, I'm not yet worthy enough to have gone this far. Many years of apprenticeship to go | 19:22 |
| brousch | Need to shovel the snow? Build a shovel custom tailored to the snowfall amount and type | 19:23 |
| jcastro | rick_h_: the wood case for the new bulb is the best | 19:23 |
| rick_h_ | yea, with the french cutout. My issue is the bulb isn't LED so can't be me | 19:24 |
| jcastro | indeed | 19:24 |
| rick_h_ | ooh, chair finally shipped | 19:29 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: also, he cleans the glass of the bulb, then while cleaning the contact points, puts his filthy fingers all over the bulb again | 19:48 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: :) | 19:49 |
| snap-l | Only the finest artisinal bulbs grace rick_h_'s sockets. | 19:52 |
| greg-g | you know, when ever you say something like that, snap-l, it sounds dirty | 19:53 |
| snap-l | handmade by expert Amish craftsmen | 19:53 |
| snap-l | Heh | 19:54 |
| snap-l | Evening | 23:39 |
| rick_h_ | evening | 23:49 |
| snap-l | Are we having fun yet? | 23:49 |
| rick_h_ | oh yea, code review party | 23:52 |
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