[01:28] <harris> set up to boot from usb first
[03:45] <alch3m157> so when i log into my account compiz doesnt work, but when i logout and login compiz works...any idea why this is? my workspaces wont change to the preset 4 wallpapers i set for it
[03:59] <freejack> hello
[04:00] <alch3m157> hi
[04:00] <Guest74600> been awhile since I used IRC
[04:06] <alch3m157> same
[04:06] <SunStar> #xubuntu-offtopic
[04:14] <SuperLag> The icons in the bottom panel... what size are they, by default?
[04:17] <SunStar> 48x48
[04:17] <SuperLag> thank you
[04:30] <neonkidxy> Hello Is there anyone active?
[04:31] <neonkidxy> I'm having trouble booting Xubuntu 12.10 64bit after installing it to a hard drive that had win7 64bit already installed. It doesn't boot grub.
[04:32] <holstein> !grub | neonkidxy i would just recover grub and try again
[04:33] <heoyea> dualboot windows and same hd is bad idea
[04:33] <holstein> !dualboot
[04:33] <holstein> heoyea: it'll work fine ^^
[04:37] <neonkidxy> So recovering grub will make it the master boot loader?
[04:38] <neonkidxy> Because right now it's just booting straight into windows
[04:39] <holstein> neonkidxy: try recovering grub if you want grub to replace the MBR
[04:41] <noteneton> lol
[04:54] <neonkidxy> Okay so I'm recovering grub right now, which partition do I install it to? The windows side or the xubuntu side?
[04:54] <holstein> neonkidxy: i install grub on the hard drive..
[04:56] <heoyea> sda
[04:56] <neonkidxy> It installed it originally to sda 7
[04:56] <neonkidxy> I moved it to sda
[04:56] <holstein> neonkidxy: grub will replace the mbr.. then allow you to boot both windows and linux.. .right now, it seems you still have the windows bootloader in the way
[04:57] <heoyea> if u put it on sda7 it only works on that parition thats why ur windows boots up windows only
[04:58] <neonkidxy> Good to know, that may be a bug in your guy's installer
[04:58] <heoyea> well is called advance mode
[04:58] <heoyea> so u should know what u were doing
[04:59] <neonkidxy> I really should have used advanced mode, I didn't this time because I figured that you had streamilined it.
[04:59] <holstein> neonkidxy: the installer will let you insatll grub where ever you like.. even somewhere that it wont work
[04:59] <neonkidxy> Or they not trying to put blame
[04:59] <neonkidxy> Well thank you I'm going down for a restart.
[05:41] <FRO5T> Hello guys, can you tell me how much seconds is taking you my website to load: http://linux.sytes.net
[05:43] <FRO5T> it's not website promotion, just wanna know does I have to move all images on google because my current free webhosting has slower loading time or they've restriceted how much bandwidth all accounts can consume.
[05:44] <pleia2> FRO5T: please don't do that
[05:44] <pleia2> it's really really inappropriate here
[05:45] <FRO5T> all of my friends are offline and don't know which man to ask :{
[05:45] <pleia2> this is not the place
[05:46] <FRO5T> ok
[05:47] <FRO5T> by the way, which is the command to bind the windows key and once I press it to open the menu in 12.04 ?
[05:52] <SunStar> launcher menu -> settings manager -> keyboard -> Application Shortcuts -> xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu
[05:55] <FRO5T> thanks SunStar
[08:03] <friedsoup_> much less talkative in Xub than Ub... probably cause all our comps work ><
[08:19] <FRO5T> :D
[08:21] <jessica9898> When xfce loads i always get message that something has crashed, but i can' see details what goes wrong. How to get details ?
[08:21] <FRO5T> thunar /var/log
[08:23] <TheSheep> also ~/.xsessionerrors
[08:24] <jessica9898> How to open this ?
[08:25] <FRO5T> Hi sheep, happy fools day ;]
[08:25] <jessica9898> ~/.xsessionerrors
[08:25] <jessica9898> ?
[08:27] <TheSheep> jessica9898: open a terminal and type `less ~/.xsessionerrors`
[08:28] <jessica9898> TheSheep i get " No such file or directory"
[08:29] <FRO5T> jess - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1011096  http://markmail.org/message/2c4pajjzbuicn5v4
[16:37] <xubuntu476> Hi, I am new to the linux system and have just downloaded Xubunt 12.04. I set up time in the top panel, but it is off one hour back. How can I fix it?
[16:38] <xome> Hi!
[16:38] <xubuntu476> hey
[16:39] <xfce> xubuntu476 : xfce menu -> system -> time and date
[16:39] <xfce> xfce menu is top left corner
[16:40] <xubuntu476> o.k. I'll try
[16:41] <xome> can somebody help with instalation xubuntu 12.04? Problem that this distr doesn''t see network cards on my laptop
[16:42] <xome> atheros 8165 and realtek rtl8188ce
[16:42] <xubuntu476> Awesome! It worked! Thank you so much. I fixed an old broken down Windows Vista with Xubuntu 12.04 download and am so pleased with it!
[16:47] <xome> i tried to update kernels on just installed xubuntu. and all i got that on kernel 3.4+ wifi card was detected and connection was establi
[16:48] <xome> established but it doesn't work properly, packets was not going.
[16:57] <xubuntu428> What's the difference between xfce session and xubuntu session - am new to linux.
[16:58] <TheSheep> xubuntu428: the initial layout of panels
[16:58] <TheSheep> xubuntu428: in xubuntu session, they are like the old ubuntu -- small panel at the top and bottom
[16:58] <TheSheep> xubuntu428: in xfce session, they are the xfce defaults
[16:59] <TheSheep> xubuntu428: you can always change them anyways
[17:00] <xubuntu428> When I set up Xubuntu session, xfce session followed suit it looks like. I see no difference. Is one better than the other?
[17:01] <TheSheep> xubuntu428: the choice only works on the first login
[17:01] <TheSheep> xubuntu428: then you can customize it anyways
[17:01] <xubuntu428> Can you make one different than the other? I mean, can I have different desktop pictures for each one?
[17:01] <TheSheep> xubuntu428: some people prefer one, others the other
[17:02] <xubuntu428> is there a difference in how it runs in cpu?
[17:02] <TheSheep> xubuntu428: they only differ in what defaults are taken on the first login, later on it uses your custom settings anyways
[17:02] <TheSheep> I don't think so
[17:04] <xubuntu428> so, after I custum set xubuntu session, the xfce session does the same? Why would one want to choose between one or the other?  I guess only at the beginning when you set it up is when the two are different, right?
[17:07] <FRO5T> TheSheep, where gone my wireless connection ? http://imgbox.com/adoLWVJO
[17:08] <TheSheep> xubuntu428: before that there was only the xubuntu session, but many people coming from other distributions wanted to have the xfce default instead
[17:08] <FRO5T> My router is broadcasting the BSSID but xubuntu doesn't listed it when I click onto the networkorking app
[17:09] <TheSheep> FRO5T: what does ifconfig -a show?
[17:09] <TheSheep> FRO5T: only lo or your network device too?
[17:09] <FRO5T> everything is normal there
[17:09] <FRO5T> wlan0, lo are fine
[17:09] <TheSheep> ok
[17:09] <FRO5T> got assigned ips
[17:10] <FRO5T> lo on localhost and wlan0 to 192.168.10.4
[17:10] <xubuntu428> oh, I see... If I have the same time, weather, and desk top picture the same, what else is different with the default in xfce session than in xubuntu session
[17:10] <xubuntu428> whatever I don't change?
[17:11] <xubuntu428> I don't know what the difference is
[17:11] <FRO5T> ew fixed it, had to click "disable networking" and then waited few seconds until I enable the networking. That's bug in xubuntu
[17:11] <TheSheep> xubuntu428: after the first login there is no difference
[17:12] <TheSheep> xubuntu428: if you really want to see the difference, you can create a new user and try the other session on that account
[17:12] <xubuntu428> o.k.  you mean the very first? sorry  I'm new at this
[17:12] <xubuntu428> Ya, how DO you do that?
[17:12] <TheSheep> !user
[17:13] <xubuntu428> what do you mean !user?
[17:13] <FRO5T> oh dear
[17:13] <TheSheep> hmm, ubottu is dead?
[17:13] <xubuntu428> o.k. Thank you!
[17:22] <boris_> hi
[17:25] <xome> can somebody help with instalation xubuntu 12.04? Problem that this distr doesn't see network cards on my laptop
[17:25] <xome> atheros 8165 and realtek rtl8188ce
[17:25] <FRO5T> no networks ?
[17:26] <xome> i tried to update kernels on just installed xubuntu. and all i got that on kernel 3.4+ wifi card was detected and connection was established but it doesn't work properly, packets was not going.
[17:26] <FRO5T> I mean you can't see any wireless network ?
[17:26] <xome> Frost, yes no networks at all wired and wireless
[17:27] <FRO5T> Untick Enable Networking and wait 5~10 seconds then tick it back to Enable Networking , it should work because same thing happens to me few minutes ago
[17:28] <FRO5T> http://imgbox.com/adoLWVJO image what happens to me few minutes ago , connection estabilished but can't see my broadcasted network e.g bssid
[17:29] <xome_> to Frost is any way to prepare distributiv with updated kernel?
[17:30] <FRO5T> never tried
[17:31] <xome_> hmm :(
[17:31] <xome_> and last question in 12.04.2 - default kernel 3.5?
[17:32] <FRO5T> 3.2.0-39
[17:33] <xome_> oh :(
[17:33] <TheSheep> hmm, on my 12.04 it's 3.5.0
[17:33] <TheSheep> ah
[17:33] <TheSheep> sorry
[17:33] <TheSheep> it's 12.10
[17:33] <FRO5T> :D
[17:33] <TheSheep> sorry
[17:33] <xome_> that's problem looks like support for my hardware appear in 3.4+
[17:34] <FRO5T> then you should try 12.10 as thesheep mention the kernel number
[17:34] <TheSheep> xome_: well, install 12.10 then?
[17:34] <xome_> problem with repo
[17:34] <xome_> for example, Ubuntu tweak see only 5 repos :(
[17:35] <FRO5T> you can always add repos
[17:35] <xome_> by hands only?
[17:36] <FRO5T> yup
[17:36] <FRO5T> no my bad , take a look
[17:36] <FRO5T> http://linux.about.com/od/xubuntu_doc/a/xubudg13t05.htm
[17:37] <xome_> ok try it.
[17:37] <xome_> thanks anyway :
[17:37] <FRO5T> ;]
[17:42] <Makdaam> hi, where can I find the xfce-power-manager-settings configuration file? or how can I disable HDD spindown in 12.10?
[17:44] <TheSheep> Makdaam: just use xfce4-settings-editor
[17:44] <TheSheep> Makdaam: everything in one place
[17:45] <TheSheep> Makdaam: the files are as usual all in ~/.config/xfce4
[17:45] <FRO5T> ScreenSaver->Mode: Disable Screen Saver
[17:46] <FRO5T> oh power settings, lol
[17:46] <FRO5T> read screen settings
[17:47] <TheSheep> there is also a huge icon in the settings manager
[17:47] <TheSheep> hard to miss, really
[17:47] <TheSheep> a gigantic power plug with "power manager" written next to it
[17:47] <FRO5T> Power Manager-> On AC and drag to Never
[17:48] <TheSheep> FRO5T: he just wants to uncheck "spin down disks"
[17:48] <FRO5T> it's there where I mentioned , below on ac is "untick or tick" spin down hdd
[17:48] <TheSheep> yup
[17:48] <TheSheep> Makdaam: found it?
[17:49] <FRO5T> seems i will have to make an snapshot tutorial..
[17:49] <TheSheep> a snapshot?
[17:49] <Makdaam> but the "spin down hard disks" option is grayed out :/
[17:49] <TheSheep> Makdaam: LIES
[17:49] <Makdaam> TheSheep: I found the file, now I'll have to search for the file format
[17:49] <TheSheep> Makdaam: xml
[17:49] <Makdaam> ...
[17:50] <Makdaam> do you happen to have an XSD to validate it?
[17:50] <TheSheep> Makdaam: you can use the editor, as I suggested
[17:50] <TheSheep> Makdaam: the editor has
[17:50] <xome_> Frost but your karma is getting better and better! :)
[17:50] <TheSheep> Makdaam: did you, by any chance, disable power management on your laptop?
[17:51] <TheSheep> Makdaam: because that could be one reason why it's grayed out
[17:51] <Makdaam> I don't recall doing so after the reinstall
[17:51] <TheSheep> also, I don't think changing anything in the file will help when it's grayed out anyways
[17:51] <Makdaam> :/
[17:52] <FRO5T> check the screen saver settings to Untick the Cycle after..
[17:52] <FRO5T> and see the Advanced tab to uncheck the power management boxes too
[17:53] <Makdaam> FRO5T: autoscreen saver was disabled and the power management was off too
[17:53] <TheSheep> Makdaam: maybe you don't have hdparm installed?
[17:54] <Makdaam> it's here
[17:55] <Caesi> Hi all. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10. How can I (using the command line) uninstall Ubuntu graphical interface and use xfce?
[17:55] <FRO5T> Makdaam http://hd-idle.sourceforge.net/
[17:56] <Caesi> Got it.. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[17:57] <FRO5T> sdparm,hdparm..
[18:00] <Makdaam> FRO5T: thanks
[18:01] <FRO5T> Thank on TheSheep :}
[18:05] <Makdaam> FRO5T: I thank him on a regular basis.
[18:05] <FRO5T> ;]
[23:52] <dlumberg> I asked in devel but everyone is sleeping (waited a while for an answer)
[23:53] <dlumberg> in Xubuntu 13.04 beta Settings Manager > Appearance doesn't change when I change the selected theme...
[23:53] <dlumberg> and my gtk?? theme that was working before is gone
[23:53] <dlumberg> any ideas?